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Behind the Iron Purdah

Bina Shah August 25, 2005

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#218 Posted by Bina_Shah on August 28, 2005 7:52:41 pm
Re: # 177

Dear TMRTR:

If you marry me I promise I won`t act like that.

Sincerely,
Bina
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#228 Posted by shankar on August 29, 2005 4:16:09 am
Re: # 218

{{If you marry me I promise I won`t act like that.}}

OK..Bina..when i read your article I was thinking...ki...if pakistani women get real power, we indians would be in a deep pile of do-do....

but NOW...i`m not so sure...
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#203 Posted by shankar on August 28, 2005 2:26:11 pm
Re: # 177

Wow!...man...you need to see a shrink in your neighborhood...
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#202 Posted by shankar on August 28, 2005 2:25:37 pm
Re: # 177

Wow!...man...you need to see a shrink in your neighborhood...
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#194 Posted by ahmedmadani on August 28, 2005 12:11:10 pm
Re: # 177

You are wrong. I have married three daughters. 2 husbands are of inferoir qualitiies and and raskals but we have to accept wrong choices as there is no otherway. Men are bad but good daughters also change in company of bad men. They become mean and hateful, greedy and worse. But I can not accept all women are bad. So I do not agree with comments. Two times I had to give money to these by son in laws I felt bad as I spend all my life raising them and upsurpers come and take away and we have to spend money its not just . bye
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#175 Posted by mannu404 on August 28, 2005 10:54:52 am
#173, {``Right...it would be poetic justice when 20 yrs from now...there will be 3 eligible bachelors for 1 ``eligible jawan lady...I cant wait for the day when WOMEN start demanding dowry.. ``}

That or have a war with Pakistan over its abundant ``natural`` resources. :) But, before that I think that economics will play an important role in the ``export`` of such resources - Meera is just the beginning. :)

Salim
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#172 Posted by mannu404 on August 28, 2005 10:47:17 am
Bina,
I, like most men, support women`s right to education, healthcare, employment, driving, voting, running for office and serving. What many of us men, and I believe most women, have a problem with is the feminazis overshadowing the women`s rights movements and hijacking the agenda. Then, sadly, we are left with shrieking, bra burnin, tampon wielding, obscenity spewing, misandry advocating, anarchist, lesbianism promoting, atheistic, castration threatening, amazons bent on having men reduced to effeminate rubber stamps. Thank God, most women do not share this vision of these mutants of femininity. As we strive to help the cause of genuine women, let us not be deterred by the noise created by these squeaky wheels. Sometimes the squeaky wheel get the oil, but at other times it gets replaced. :)
Salim
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#171 Posted by trmntr_x on August 28, 2005 10:35:32 am
and speaking of George Carlin....where is my twig and munjun?...I`d like to agree with you Sha Sahiba...but this new generation scares me.....they like kaaley comics like ``chis rock`` and ``dave chappelle``...why do they want to listen to someone who`s name means ``hat`` in french?....they keep talking about ``keeping it real``...``keeping it real``?...how about ``keeping it fresh?`` I asked my donut boy when I got my last cup of chai cappucino....how about ``keeping it in the family?``....how about keeping it john updike...who I`d read....but he`s been canonized-the kiss of literary death-and he`s still alive!....
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#170 Posted by trmntr_x on August 28, 2005 10:27:06 am
Saminasha, I second and third AphraBehen`s opinion....but as a man, I find that the last thought I had coincide with the release of George Carlin`s list of no-no words...and then it went downhill from there....the pc police has made my life miserable....those goody two shoes-or is this a perjorative term?...those well meaning ambidexterous abled anthropods have made my kicking the eighteen year old taco jockey an offense in Miss Manner`s books!...Miss Manners! George, can you hear me?....Why do I have to worry about things like why my mother`s dhoban doesnt have any teeth?....I know why she doesnt have teeth, but what can I do about it?....Its all Hugh Chavez`s fault, I say! ....Does he even know who George Carlin is?
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#167 Posted by AphraBehen on August 28, 2005 10:18:39 am
Saminasha,

How utterly brilliant you are! We missed you for all those weeks when there was no one to make any of the kinds of points you were making! Who actually writes about labor unions among interactors? Why nobody but you, Saminasha!

I wish you`d just collect a whole bunch of nics and make it look like there was a community of intelligent and progessive interactors! Because it seems that whenever the lowest common denominator posts, there are five other trogs congratulating him for actually using a keyboard! And if he is able to make a joke without referring to his own inadequacies? Its like the heaven the Ummah has envisioned!

I love you Saminasha, and all your comments on chowk and I am not afraid to say it! You are just so wickedly sharp tongued and have a laser like focus that I cant possibly support because I want everyone to be my friend!

But keep up the good work! I love you!

-a
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#166 Posted by Saminasha on August 28, 2005 10:04:28 am
what would a namard be without his jackasses a congratulating?

we`ll never know, as mediocrity reigns at chowk!
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#165 Posted by mannu404 on August 28, 2005 10:01:59 am
#162, Welcome back, Mr. Ntsyed. From your brilliant and fitting response, I can see that I am already a fan of yours - regardless of your politics. I admire your wit and humor. Please continue.
Salim
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#180 Posted by ntsyed on August 28, 2005 11:11:59 am
Re: # 165

Tasleemat Salim Saheb! I try to utilize whatever blessings Allah has bestowed on me to its maximum potential.

Judging from Saminasha`s 166, I`m sure I`ll be a fan of yours ;-)~~

M`asSalaam
:-)~~
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#164 Posted by Saminasha on August 28, 2005 9:59:52 am
Goood Goddess, this is TOO rich....

NyetSyed writes:

``I support the ``Kacchi maassi with seventeen children and no teeth`` and ``Illiterate dhobans`` who keep my home and clothes clean and cook delicious meals for me and my family. The Union is called ``Islam``, which (unlike the author`s and your distate for them) allows me to respect them for who they are and what they can do...not where they`ve been educated and what they look like.``

So..now...let me get this straight...you were taking Ms. Shah to task for supposedly looking down on impoverished domestic working women-specious and belabored attempt at comedy-because they were not as toothy and contraception practicing as she would have liked. Her point, which you missed, even though it was as big as the side of a barn, was of course, not elitist twaddle about the prestige of having a toothed and reproductive right vested service workers-BUT- and nysyed, listen carefully, because I will ENUNCIATE-

having women workers who are not EQUALLY if NOT MORE marginalized by the systemic institution of gender discrimination as practiced in too many so called Islamic countries.

Get it?

In addition, I am extremely amused, nay, FASCINATED, by your claim of the Islamic UNION as you know it. Pray tell, or, pray AND tell, how does this union actually operate?
Who are the organizers, members? Who is the leadership? Which members of this union strike or negotiate FAIRER, SAFER and EQUITABLE labor practices for themselves and their coworkers? WITH WHOM are these negotiations made? WHAT is the pay rate for a Phillipina/Bangladeshi/Pakistani/Sri Lankan/African woman domestic worker in Saudi Arabia? Or is she disqualified from this ``union`` for being nonmuslim/south asian/black? What compensation is given for rape/passport theft/lack of due process?

Please reply ASAP-all my friends and coworkers in our unions are WAITING with baited breath...

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#179 Posted by ntsyed on August 28, 2005 11:11:53 am
Re: # 164

ufffffff Allah... itna to koi blonde bhi nahi tapti agar uskay samnay koi blonde-joke suna de...tauba tauba tauba....hehehe

Reading your last line suddenly gave me the thought this is as close to a dominatrix as I`m getting in this world. I wonder though, when did this kind learn to use the ``P`` word as in `please`? Anyway, if Allah allows me into heavens, I may ask for a 6` dominatrix just to see what the whole fuss was about.

Anyhow...you`ve asked way too many irrelevant questions for a busy man to answer in a short time. I`ll tell you what, why don`t you do a practical hands-on investigative research and become a ``worker`` you describe in your questions and undergo the predicaments you mention and you`ll see the leadership, operations, strikes, negotiations and everything else. I`m sure your anti-Islamic rants will not be factored in. I`ll lie and put in a good word for you. That way you`ll have a solid undisputable data to bring down the entire Islam single-handedly. One couldn`t make you a better offer to achieve your objective than that. The only question is, are you up for it?

Earn your kudos baby girl...whining will only get you a lousy sugar-lollipop to rot your teeth and appetite ;-)~~

The big barn....
Speaking of ``Phillipina/Bangladeshi/Pakistani/Sri Lankan/African woman domestic worker(s)``, how come we find the same nationalities/races in these professions in the US of A in addition to the poor Latinas from south of the border? Why are there so few whites (if any) in this profession in the US? A lot of them tell similar stories as their sisters in ``so called Islamic countries``. Is US one of these countries too?

Ah the data, you must ask...sorry I couldn`t help predict your silliness...but then I`ll let you predict my response to let you get even on this one.

I`m sure you`re able to see the other side of the barn just as easily. Hint: Google, Clusty, plus it`s just as big as this side, unless of course choose to remain logically and rationally impaired.

ciao :-)~~
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#163 Posted by miriamk on August 28, 2005 9:57:22 am
ntsyed saheb:

welcome back! i see your time away has only improved your top form ;).

m
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