Umbreen Shah September 8, 2005
#228 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 13, 2005 1:49:07 pm
#196, ntsyed sahib {``Look at Mrs Clinton, the reigning champion of women`s rights succumbed to social/political pressure to let Mr. Clinton off the hook for exploring Miss Lewinsky`s dental hygiene with tools only reserved for Mrs Clinton. She couldn`t contest, let alone lose 2008 presidential circus, if it wasn`t for Mr. Lollipop hubby.``}
NT Bhai,
You outdid yourself in this particular post. I mean I laughed so hard that my viewpoint moved several points to the right on the political spectrum. I have heard many descriptions of Clinton`s philandering episode, but this has to be among the funniest. Have you noticed how none of the femiNAZIS ever questions Clinton`s actions?
NT Bhai,
You outdid yourself in this particular post. I mean I laughed so hard that my viewpoint moved several points to the right on the political spectrum. I have heard many descriptions of Clinton`s philandering episode, but this has to be among the funniest. Have you noticed how none of the femiNAZIS ever questions Clinton`s actions?
#227 Posted by Saminasha on September 13, 2005 1:48:57 pm
NtSyed,
You really are a sick little creep, arent you?
You really are a sick little creep, arent you?
#226 Posted by Saminasha on September 13, 2005 1:47:40 pm
Stuka,
You can post articles that say your mama was a nobel preace prize winning beauty queen, but I`m not wasting my time with you anymore for reasons I have detailed.
You can post articles that say your mama was a nobel preace prize winning beauty queen, but I`m not wasting my time with you anymore for reasons I have detailed.
#225 Posted by ntsyed on September 13, 2005 1:45:48 pm
Re: # 203 by Semi-nasha
``Beeyatch, your time is over``
Awwwwwww.... I`m just warmin` up toots... :-)~~
``...you dont exist....``
I exist
...in your nightmares
...in your yelling at your husband, when you`ll call out my name instead of his
...in your son`s innocent question: ``Mommy, why did you burn your trainers when you were a li`l girl?
HAHAHAHA
``....blow yourself silly....``
Why, you have a tootache?
:-)~~
``Beeyatch, your time is over``
Awwwwwww.... I`m just warmin` up toots... :-)~~
``...you dont exist....``
I exist
...in your nightmares
...in your yelling at your husband, when you`ll call out my name instead of his
...in your son`s innocent question: ``Mommy, why did you burn your trainers when you were a li`l girl?
HAHAHAHA
``....blow yourself silly....``
Why, you have a tootache?
:-)~~
#224 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 13, 2005 1:44:12 pm
#203, {``#203 by Saminasha on September 13, 2005 12:36pm PT
Re: # 196
Beeyatch, your time is over....blow yourself silly....you dont exist....``}
With that kind of hysteria and that kind of attitude, how can they expect financial parity?
Woud you want someone like that at the controls of our nucular arsenal? :)
Re: # 196
Beeyatch, your time is over....blow yourself silly....you dont exist....``}
With that kind of hysteria and that kind of attitude, how can they expect financial parity?
Woud you want someone like that at the controls of our nucular arsenal? :)
#223 Posted by stuka on September 13, 2005 1:43:24 pm
Here is a report by the Chicago Tribune, hardly a darling of the right, but much closer to the truth compared to Saminasha`s Soviet style propaganda...
Notice, not ``pay equity`` as in same pay for the same job that Saminasha insinuated, but ``comparable worth`` which is the same pay for different jobs based on the value of labor, a concept straight out of Marxist theory.
If we were to confirm judges that met with Saminasha`s approval, we could reasonable expect Gulags in Alaska and long lines for shoes, groceries and every other consumer item...and yeah, Americans would be swimming to get to Cuba!! :0)
Roberts criticized equal pay decision
`Comparable worth` theory ridiculed
By Jan Crawford Greenburg and Naftali Bendavid
Washington Bureau
Published August 16, 2005
WASHINGTON -- As a young lawyer in the Reagan White House, Supreme Court nominee Judge John Roberts Jr. helped shape the debate on some of the era`s most controversial issues, including abortion and school prayer. And he held nothing back when analyzing the revolutionary theory of ``comparable worth,`` a proposal to pay women the same salaries as men even when they were in different jobs.
The theory, supported by the Carter administration to achieve pay equity, was one of the more contentious labor issues of the time. When a federal judge approved it in Washington state in 1983, Roberts harshly criticized the novel ruling as giving judges, not the market, the power to decide the value of different jobs, according to new documents released Monday.
The judge in the ``comparable worth`` case had ruled that certain state jobs done primarily by women, such as laundry work, should be paid at the same rate as jobs done by men, such as driving trucks, if their worth to society was roughly the same.
``It is difficult to exaggerate the perniciousness of the `comparable worth` theory,`` Roberts, then an associate White House counsel, wrote to White House Counsel Fred F. Fielding in early 1984. ``It mandates nothing less than the central planning of the economy by judges.``
Notice, not ``pay equity`` as in same pay for the same job that Saminasha insinuated, but ``comparable worth`` which is the same pay for different jobs based on the value of labor, a concept straight out of Marxist theory.
If we were to confirm judges that met with Saminasha`s approval, we could reasonable expect Gulags in Alaska and long lines for shoes, groceries and every other consumer item...and yeah, Americans would be swimming to get to Cuba!! :0)
Roberts criticized equal pay decision
`Comparable worth` theory ridiculed
By Jan Crawford Greenburg and Naftali Bendavid
Washington Bureau
Published August 16, 2005
WASHINGTON -- As a young lawyer in the Reagan White House, Supreme Court nominee Judge John Roberts Jr. helped shape the debate on some of the era`s most controversial issues, including abortion and school prayer. And he held nothing back when analyzing the revolutionary theory of ``comparable worth,`` a proposal to pay women the same salaries as men even when they were in different jobs.
The theory, supported by the Carter administration to achieve pay equity, was one of the more contentious labor issues of the time. When a federal judge approved it in Washington state in 1983, Roberts harshly criticized the novel ruling as giving judges, not the market, the power to decide the value of different jobs, according to new documents released Monday.
The judge in the ``comparable worth`` case had ruled that certain state jobs done primarily by women, such as laundry work, should be paid at the same rate as jobs done by men, such as driving trucks, if their worth to society was roughly the same.
``It is difficult to exaggerate the perniciousness of the `comparable worth` theory,`` Roberts, then an associate White House counsel, wrote to White House Counsel Fred F. Fielding in early 1984. ``It mandates nothing less than the central planning of the economy by judges.``
#222 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 13, 2005 1:41:35 pm
ntsyed #206,
Thank you sir. I just thought that while everyone was writing to temporal sahib, I may as well make a case for the endangered gender.
Thank you sir. I just thought that while everyone was writing to temporal sahib, I may as well make a case for the endangered gender.
#221 Posted by Saminasha on September 13, 2005 1:40:28 pm
Stuka,
I am not interacting with you because you have not responded in a way that has shown any respect for what I am saying. I also find it unfortunately, quite telling, that having been unable to honestly engage with the thesis of this article, you have had resort to red baiting tactics. It seems pretty obvious that the ISNA has its peers in the Indian Republican community.
I am not interacting with you because you have not responded in a way that has shown any respect for what I am saying. I also find it unfortunately, quite telling, that having been unable to honestly engage with the thesis of this article, you have had resort to red baiting tactics. It seems pretty obvious that the ISNA has its peers in the Indian Republican community.
#220 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 13, 2005 1:38:41 pm
Stuka,
I found your position on the ``equal pay`` issue to be very logical. People should be paid according to their value to the enterprise - just let the ``free market`` dictate rates. The more these femiNAZIS tamper with the natural scheme of things, the more screwed up this world is going to get. Thank God, most women are more against them.
I found your position on the ``equal pay`` issue to be very logical. People should be paid according to their value to the enterprise - just let the ``free market`` dictate rates. The more these femiNAZIS tamper with the natural scheme of things, the more screwed up this world is going to get. Thank God, most women are more against them.
#219 Posted by stuka on September 13, 2005 1:37:29 pm
Saminasha:
I am asking you to post here. But please do not post misleading stuff and expect to go unchallenged.
YOU WERE MISLEADING TO BEGIN WITH. THE ISSUE ON WHICH ROBERTS COMMENTED IS NOT ``PAY EQUITY`` BUT ``COMPARABLE WORTH``.
Comparable worth is just an attempt to use the pretext of equal rights for women as a means of putting government in charge of private and public sector wage rates. It is worth noting that wage discrimination on the basis of gender already is illegal. The government has structures in place to assure that a woman doing the same job as a man receives the same compensation.
Ultimatly, you Marxists want that the government determine wage rates. Straight out of Karl Marx. Whereas the US constitution provides for freedom of capital, inherently allowing the market to determine wage levels.
I am asking you to post here. But please do not post misleading stuff and expect to go unchallenged.
YOU WERE MISLEADING TO BEGIN WITH. THE ISSUE ON WHICH ROBERTS COMMENTED IS NOT ``PAY EQUITY`` BUT ``COMPARABLE WORTH``.
Comparable worth is just an attempt to use the pretext of equal rights for women as a means of putting government in charge of private and public sector wage rates. It is worth noting that wage discrimination on the basis of gender already is illegal. The government has structures in place to assure that a woman doing the same job as a man receives the same compensation.
Ultimatly, you Marxists want that the government determine wage rates. Straight out of Karl Marx. Whereas the US constitution provides for freedom of capital, inherently allowing the market to determine wage levels.
#218 Posted by Saminasha on September 13, 2005 1:36:14 pm
September 13, 2005
Making Roberts Talk
By JOHN TIERNEY
He came, he charmed, he shut up. During the opening statements, the senators blathered away their time and more; Judge John Roberts used less than half of his to utter a few graceful generalities. He has made a career out of not saying the wrong thing. Why start now?
A lawyer who has been cross-examined dozens of times by the Supreme Court will not be caught off guard by senators posing as legal scholars. There has never been a nominee better prepared to dodge constitutional questions.
The only hope for Democrats is to try the tactics used by interrogation pros like Israeli airport screeners and U.S. customs agents. These experts know that a smart criminal will have rehearsed a cover story for, say, what he was doing in London and why he`s going to New York.
But if he`s asked something unexpected - how he liked the London weather, whether he`s planning to visit Times Square - he has to change mental gears. He`s apt to exhibit telltale signs of a liar under stress, like gazing upward and to his right as he answers.
I`m not suggesting that Mr. Roberts is a liar, or that anything the Democrats ask today could stop him from being confirmed. But they might at least keep TV viewers awake by trying questions like these:
If Roe v. Wade were a tree, what kind of tree would it be?
Is there any chance that you could speed up Justice Stevens`s retirement by addressing him as ``Gramps``?
After seeing a judge`s robes in a Gilbert and Sullivan production, Chief Justice Rehnquist added gold stripes to his robe. If confirmed, will you keep the stripes, or do you have a whole new look in mind?
In your best judgment, did Brad and Jen really just grow apart, or was it Angelina`s fault?
From your analysis of constitutional history, would you classify James Madison as a dog person or a cat person?
Suppose you`d been in Solomon`s place when he proposed cutting the baby in two. And suppose neither woman objected. Would you have cut the baby? Flipped a coin? Or opted for foster care?
You`ve said you`re a devotee of P. G. Wodehouse. Of the current justices, who is most like Jeeves? Who`s most like Bertie Wooster?
Would you consider instituting a casual Friday dress policy on the bench?
Would it be a violation of Lois Lane`s so-called right to privacy if Superman used his X-ray vision to look through her clothes?
Would you think it`s cool if a professional wrestler dubbed himself Chief Justice, or would you sue him for trademark infringement?
During the announcement of your nomination at the White House, your son distracted the president with an impromptu dance. When you got home that night, what happened to him?
Would Thomas Jefferson have preferred the Beatles or the Stones?
After Justice Souter`s opinion in the Kelo case endorsed the use of eminent domain to seize peoples` homes for a higher ``public use,`` a group proposed that the town of Weare in New Hampshire increase its tax revenue by taking Justice Souter`s property there so that a developer could build a resort called the Lost Liberty Hotel. Would your family ever vacation there?
What goes on four legs in the morning, two legs at noon and three legs in the evening?
When you were a clerk at the Supreme Court, Chief Justice Warren Burger was disliked for his pretentiousness. What nickname did the clerks have for him? Burger King?
Does President Bush have a nickname for you yet?
When justices have birthday parties, should they invite all the other justices, or can they invite just the ones they like?
If Vice President Dick Cheney and Justice Scalia invited you duck hunting, would you go?
If Judge Judy isn`t afraid of television cameras in her courtroom, why is the Supreme Court so chicken?
Ashley or Mary-Kate?
Your passion for correct grammar and syntax is well known, but you have yet to inform the American people of your position on the serial comma. In the phrase ``life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,`` should there be a comma after ``liberty``?
How would you edit this sentence to make it grammatically correct?: ``I swear I ain`t never gonna overturn Roe v. Wade.``
Why did you turn to the right and look upward?
Making Roberts Talk
By JOHN TIERNEY
He came, he charmed, he shut up. During the opening statements, the senators blathered away their time and more; Judge John Roberts used less than half of his to utter a few graceful generalities. He has made a career out of not saying the wrong thing. Why start now?
A lawyer who has been cross-examined dozens of times by the Supreme Court will not be caught off guard by senators posing as legal scholars. There has never been a nominee better prepared to dodge constitutional questions.
The only hope for Democrats is to try the tactics used by interrogation pros like Israeli airport screeners and U.S. customs agents. These experts know that a smart criminal will have rehearsed a cover story for, say, what he was doing in London and why he`s going to New York.
But if he`s asked something unexpected - how he liked the London weather, whether he`s planning to visit Times Square - he has to change mental gears. He`s apt to exhibit telltale signs of a liar under stress, like gazing upward and to his right as he answers.
I`m not suggesting that Mr. Roberts is a liar, or that anything the Democrats ask today could stop him from being confirmed. But they might at least keep TV viewers awake by trying questions like these:
If Roe v. Wade were a tree, what kind of tree would it be?
Is there any chance that you could speed up Justice Stevens`s retirement by addressing him as ``Gramps``?
After seeing a judge`s robes in a Gilbert and Sullivan production, Chief Justice Rehnquist added gold stripes to his robe. If confirmed, will you keep the stripes, or do you have a whole new look in mind?
In your best judgment, did Brad and Jen really just grow apart, or was it Angelina`s fault?
From your analysis of constitutional history, would you classify James Madison as a dog person or a cat person?
Suppose you`d been in Solomon`s place when he proposed cutting the baby in two. And suppose neither woman objected. Would you have cut the baby? Flipped a coin? Or opted for foster care?
You`ve said you`re a devotee of P. G. Wodehouse. Of the current justices, who is most like Jeeves? Who`s most like Bertie Wooster?
Would you consider instituting a casual Friday dress policy on the bench?
Would it be a violation of Lois Lane`s so-called right to privacy if Superman used his X-ray vision to look through her clothes?
Would you think it`s cool if a professional wrestler dubbed himself Chief Justice, or would you sue him for trademark infringement?
During the announcement of your nomination at the White House, your son distracted the president with an impromptu dance. When you got home that night, what happened to him?
Would Thomas Jefferson have preferred the Beatles or the Stones?
After Justice Souter`s opinion in the Kelo case endorsed the use of eminent domain to seize peoples` homes for a higher ``public use,`` a group proposed that the town of Weare in New Hampshire increase its tax revenue by taking Justice Souter`s property there so that a developer could build a resort called the Lost Liberty Hotel. Would your family ever vacation there?
What goes on four legs in the morning, two legs at noon and three legs in the evening?
When you were a clerk at the Supreme Court, Chief Justice Warren Burger was disliked for his pretentiousness. What nickname did the clerks have for him? Burger King?
Does President Bush have a nickname for you yet?
When justices have birthday parties, should they invite all the other justices, or can they invite just the ones they like?
If Vice President Dick Cheney and Justice Scalia invited you duck hunting, would you go?
If Judge Judy isn`t afraid of television cameras in her courtroom, why is the Supreme Court so chicken?
Ashley or Mary-Kate?
Your passion for correct grammar and syntax is well known, but you have yet to inform the American people of your position on the serial comma. In the phrase ``life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,`` should there be a comma after ``liberty``?
How would you edit this sentence to make it grammatically correct?: ``I swear I ain`t never gonna overturn Roe v. Wade.``
Why did you turn to the right and look upward?
#217 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 13, 2005 1:35:22 pm
#208, {``This political situation is insanity....the fundamentalists in the Muslim and Jewish world are mirrored by Christians here....because none of these seriously, seriously incompetant people have any NOR do they have want any knowledge of what life was like during the American 1950s and before.``}
Weren`t the `50s fondly remembered as ``The Happy Days?`` You just can`t go around making wide sweeping statements and get upset when people call your bluff. From all that I have heard and read, the `50s, despite the terrible segregation that existed in the deep South, were a period of American zenith in terms of confidence, compassion, hard work, family values, employment, and quality of life for most Americans. In fact, the good times, good feelings, and prosperity of the `50s were responsible for the real beginning of the Civil Rights movement.
Don`t tell me that you prefer the modern days of equality with single moms caring for several children from multiple fathers? Before, women worked out of interest and passion for their fields, now women work to eat, just like men always have. :)
Weren`t the `50s fondly remembered as ``The Happy Days?`` You just can`t go around making wide sweeping statements and get upset when people call your bluff. From all that I have heard and read, the `50s, despite the terrible segregation that existed in the deep South, were a period of American zenith in terms of confidence, compassion, hard work, family values, employment, and quality of life for most Americans. In fact, the good times, good feelings, and prosperity of the `50s were responsible for the real beginning of the Civil Rights movement.
Don`t tell me that you prefer the modern days of equality with single moms caring for several children from multiple fathers? Before, women worked out of interest and passion for their fields, now women work to eat, just like men always have. :)
#215 Posted by stuka on September 13, 2005 1:28:37 pm
`` beg your pardon? You expect me to interact with you after you have dismissed my statement and subsequent proof that Roberts is anti pay parity?
``
Please feel free to articulate your opinions in a vaccum. Your definition of ``pay parity`` is inherently Marxist and against the spirit of the US constitution which stands for freedom (including freedom of Capital)
``
Please feel free to articulate your opinions in a vaccum. Your definition of ``pay parity`` is inherently Marxist and against the spirit of the US constitution which stands for freedom (including freedom of Capital)
#214 Posted by stuka on September 13, 2005 1:24:51 pm
``As you seem to suffer from the delusion that some lives are more valuable than others, I dont expect you to understand the concept of equal pay for equal labor. Now, I`ve had enough of you. ``
The value of labor is defined by the market. That is all I have to say on this...
``And why have you not had the decency to acknowledge that your info has been incorrect``
How is it incorrect? Roberts has not advocated discrimination of wage levels by gender as you insinuated.
The value of labor is defined by the market. That is all I have to say on this...
``And why have you not had the decency to acknowledge that your info has been incorrect``
How is it incorrect? Roberts has not advocated discrimination of wage levels by gender as you insinuated.
#213 Posted by Saminasha on September 13, 2005 1:24:15 pm
Re: # 212
I beg your pardon? You expect me to interact with you after you have dismissed my statement and subsequent proof that Roberts is anti pay parity?
Dream on your own dime.
I beg your pardon? You expect me to interact with you after you have dismissed my statement and subsequent proof that Roberts is anti pay parity?
Dream on your own dime.
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