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``And, no, on the whole, women do not make an equal wage for the same labor their male peer does. The exception to that is in three fields. ``

Okay, I did not know about the three fields but I know the reality is that equality does not exist. Specifically though, the law is already clear on that...the headlines about Roberts were on a different issue. The headlines were misleading when they talked about wage parity because Roberts comments were on a different aspect. That is why you can see that the issue ended up dying down relativly quickly.

You say that having an agenda is not a bad thing. Admittedly, true but it has to be accompanied by transparency. Otherwise, how is one to clarify fact versus opinion?



``Compound that by ethnicity, class strata, job market, economy, regional economic climate...call up at least five of your women classmates from grad school and ask them what their experiences have been in terms of pay and see what they say.
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I know that some are doing better and some not. It all depended on fields they opted to go into..finance and IS being top scorers and HR being the lowest, marketing in the middle.

``I don`t have to get in a line at the immigration and be fingerprinted like criminals at airports just because I`m a non-European.
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So you do not live in the states? Good for you and more respect to you...If there is one thing I cannot stand it is Namak Harams.

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``So you do not live in the states? Good for you and more respect to you...If there is one thing I cannot stand it is Namak Harams.``

Thank you :-)~~

That`s exactly the reason I left: not to be a Namak Haram to Pakistan, and neither to the US. People like Saminasha, hamidm, temporal, ana, rozaiba, et al are simply Namak Harams of Pakistan for bad-mouthing the place (good or bad) that made it possible for them to be who they are today. They think shouting slogans, that Pakistanis can`t relate to, is a service to Pak and somehow they`re helping rebuild our country with failed American experiments.

If they wanna share the credit, they need to come here and get their hands dirty to build it regardless of ideological differences and infrastructural weaknesses. Otherwise, I`ll be damned if I let these snakes crawl back to Pak once the whites, blacks, and hispanics kick their lard asses out of the US. And I`ll be damned if I`ll let them dump the We the People Crap on us then. Bunch of Freakin` unscrupulous opportunists!

Sorry bro, didn`t mean to unload on you.

Cheers :-)~

Stuka,

There is no such thing as a simple ``narration`` of ``facts``....each article read the same situation differently. I dont necessarily think having an agenda is a bad thing-what I do think we need to keep in mind that ``neutral`` does not mean slacking off on the job and really interrogating what a position or policy means.

And, no, on the whole, women do not make an equal wage for the same labor their male peer does. The exception to that is in three fields.

Compound that by ethnicity, class strata, job market, economy, regional economic climate...call up at least five of your women classmates from grad school and ask them what their experiences have been in terms of pay and see what they say.

`` And all of them are gonna have the Skinheads, Aryan Bros, KKK come looking for your Paki behind in a very short time, especially `cause you don`t like `em, and to them you`re either a commie or a MAUSLEM whether you accept it or not.
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NTSYED: So lemme guess, you already bought the one way ticket on PIA or did you take the shorter route to the Canadian border, hauling your paki ass to get Political Asylum??? HAHAHAHA!!!

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Political or otherwise, Asylums are for the insane like Saminashas of the world.

I live where I belong, Bubba! Amongst my own. Proud to live in small homes with broken windows, but it`s OURS...and I`d die for it too. Unlike Saminasha and her ilk, I didn`t abandon my home and my people only to shout and hurl ideological junk that don`t even make sense to her, from the material comforts of Western hemisphere. I don`t have to get in a line at the immigration and be fingerprinted like criminals at airports just because I`m a non-European.

;-)~~

``EVERY article written, EVERY text is ideologically driven. I posted that article to make it clear that Robert`s attitudes towards wage disparity is an issue of concern for American citizens. ``

What? Why? A simple narration of facts, or a desvription of both sides without editorial content is not ideologically motivated. In that sense, the Chicago Tribune and your post are different from each other.

2. It is NOT biased to point out:

``a. that thousands of pages related to Roberts and his opinions are being withheld at the time period of ``his interview with the American people`` as was put recently. Most Americans are in favor of wage parity-esp. the growing female constituency who comprise at least half of this country`s workforce. ``

Wage Parity is already law in America. That is the whole point. To link the Roberts case to ``wage parity`` is wholly misleading when it is actually about ``comparable value``. Two different things.

Stuka,

1. EVERY article written, EVERY text is ideologically driven. I posted that article to make it clear that Robert`s attitudes towards wage disparity is an issue of concern for American citizens.

2. It is NOT biased to point out:

a. that thousands of pages related to Roberts and his opinions are being withheld at the time period of ``his interview with the American people`` as was put recently. Most Americans are in favor of wage parity-esp. the growing female constituency who comprise at least half of this country`s workforce.

b. There are appro. three fields in which wage parity has been achieved.

c. That Roberts` bias against wage parity is linked to other notions and policies of inequality.

You may find it convenient to dismiss these legitimate issues as ``crapola``, but thats really not my problem. It is typical of the rep lack of vision, however.

This article IS about ethnicity and identity and linkages thereof....so sorry, once again, you`ve missed the point...

``You can post articles that say your mama was a nobel preace prize winning beauty queen, but I`m not wasting my time with you anymore for reasons I have detailed.
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Yes, the ``echo chamber`` of the liberal left is on display here. Discussions are to be made only on the basis of ideologically admissible positions. Facts do not count.

#229, Stuka {``I request you to keep the insults limited to political slurs and not include religion, nationality or ethnicity.``}

Stuka,
My friend. You are almost there. When she resorts to personal, ethnic, religious, or insults related to names, you know that she is losing a debate. :)

{``#227 by Saminasha on September 13, 2005 1:48pm PT
NtSyed,

You really are a sick little creep, arent you? ``}

You can always tell when she is losing a debate. :)

Samina:

You are right. I have been Red Baiting. But only to retaliate aginst your bait and switch tactics. Admit that the article you posted was ideologically biased to begin with and we can re-engage.

The Chicago Tribune is NOT a Republican newspaper. Yet, it gives a much more truthfull description of the judgement compared to the article you posted.

``It seems pretty obvious that the ISNA has its peers in the Indian Republican community. ``

Why do you bring in my nationality into this? Have I called you a Muslim Marxist or a Pakistani Marxist?? You could say that ISNA has its peers in the Republican community, and while disagreeing with your statement, Ii would not dispute it.

We have been ideological foes on this site for quite a while and barring a few unpleasent scenes, have managed to remain civil with each other. I request you to keep the insults limited to political slurs and not include religion, nationality or ethnicity.

#196, ntsyed sahib {``Look at Mrs Clinton, the reigning champion of women`s rights succumbed to social/political pressure to let Mr. Clinton off the hook for exploring Miss Lewinsky`s dental hygiene with tools only reserved for Mrs Clinton. She couldn`t contest, let alone lose 2008 presidential circus, if it wasn`t for Mr. Lollipop hubby.``}

NT Bhai,
You outdid yourself in this particular post. I mean I laughed so hard that my viewpoint moved several points to the right on the political spectrum. I have heard many descriptions of Clinton`s philandering episode, but this has to be among the funniest. Have you noticed how none of the femiNAZIS ever questions Clinton`s actions?

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Salim Bhai ``Have you noticed how none of the femiNAZIS ever questions Clinton`s actions?``

Questioning Clinton`s philandering would drag in Miss Lewinsky, whom these FemiNazis may consider the Hitler of the Movement. After all she availed her ``rights`` as a woman to have the honor to polish the First Knob, made a lot of name and money for herself with it; stained her dress in the process as a memorabilia for the old age that she might even sell for additional gazillions from some pervert. In fact, she has made a hell of lot of more money than most men for merely demonstrating her oral skills in more ways than one. Demonstrating pride in some of her oral skills would be politically incorrect at this juncture, that`s why they`re gushing with pride only internally.

Unfortunately, and as you pointed out Miss Saminasha`s blatant hypocrisies, alluding to one of these oral skills is okay for a FemiNazi like herself. OTOH, she called me mean names when I simple asked if she has a toothache. Now, is that injustice or what?

HAHAHA

:-)~~

NtSyed,

You really are a sick little creep, arent you?

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What`s the matter honey...nightmares bothering you already?

You should`ve watched your big-toothless mouth before you shot it off...Marxist...Commie...Stalinist...Feminazi

:-)~~