Rape and Exploitation - Pakistan’s Dilemma

Re: # 44


he he he he he...

`` It`s a good thing that Sania Mirza doesn`t play in Pakistan - she would be ripped to shreds.``



But Carla Khan the new Squash sensation does.....!!!

mohar11 # 60:

if all are free to comment why should that curtesy not apply to me? how come me expressing my views becomes playing nanny?

to all the participants here except salim

…some subjects should be above ridicule and i let my better judgement take a back seat ..for this i apologize

…what happens to women in desilands should be matter of concern and shame not ridicule and satire

Folks,
This is exactly why I am so disappointed with Paki society. In addition to the education crisis, Pakis suffer from an unexplained weakness of losing common sense when facing perceived emotional insults. Their handicap in education enhances their perception of imagined insults. This in turn leads them to react totally irrationally, thus impairing their ability to learn from their mistakes. And all this can happen without religion. Once Islam is in danger, then all bets are off - we are now in 1947 zone.

Look at the facts:
1. The Panchayat in Paki Punjab sentenced an innocent woman to get raped by men of an influential family.
2. The police and authorities did nothing to halt the criminal and cruel act
3. Thanks to some swift action by the Government, the men were convicted in court
4. The Lahore Court, upon their appeal, released the rapists and those who sanctioned the raPE.
5. The President of Pakistan, the very sensitive and intelligent Gen. Musharraf, makes a stupid, insensitive, and totally ridiculous comment about the relationship of rape to foreign visas.
6. Salim Chauhan attacks Paki society and ridicules its president for the rapes and the comments about the rapes
7. Mr. Temporal asks Chowk Staff to remove the sattire because his dull mind perceives it as ``insensitive``

Are we in Alice in Wonderland or what?
Welcome to Pakistan and the plight of the Paki diaspora.

Temporal,
I know that English comprehension is not one of your advertised skills. You have genuinely misunderstood my attempt at ridiculing Paki society about the way it treats women and how the only solution that many see is an imposition of Tally Ban type rule.

So, just because of your handicap, I will waste my time and try to explain my sattire to you:

What`s with all this rape happening all too frequently in Pakistan?

Rapes are too frequent and too blatant in Pakistan


Can you imagine what would happen if a higher percentage of Pakistani women were not in burqa?

As if putting all the women in burqa would have saved MukhtaraN mai from the Panchayat`s decision


It`s a good thing that Sania Mirza doesn`t play in Pakistan - she would be ripped to shreds.
Self-explanatory. A successful female tennis player is out to tempt the momins and is at fault if something happens to her while playing in Pakistan. Wait that too is a sattire. Forget this one. It`s too deep for you. Just join the Mullahs in India who are condeming Sania.

And, we should be thankful that all our female news readers on TV put on that protective cloth over their heads when reading all the news about rape and honor.

See, the women put the cloth on their heads and don`t get raped. That is why it is so important to observe proper dress - as ifs that would have saved MukhtaraN Mai


Now, some people want to allow women in Lahore to run marathons! I mean what are the odds of a woman surviving rape in a whole 26 mile run? That is approximately the distance between the US and UK embassies and Chaklala - give or take a few miles.

Running marathons is going to lead to more women getting raped. Women get raped because they are seen. This is also a sattire. The reference to foreign embassies is an attack on Musharraf`s comment about some of the reasons for these rapes. Did you get that, Tempy?


Then there is Meera - no wonder Pakistani women are getting raped right and left. If women act as Meera and dress like her, they are going to get raped. At least the ones at home are getting raped by momins, not like Meera going next door to get raped.

More sattire on dressing and getting raped. From all available accounts, Meera was NOT raped in India despite her provoking wardrobe in the movie. MukhtaraN mai was not wearing what Meera wore in India, yet she was raped by momins in her own country. More sattire.


Can you imagine what would happen if they allowed near-naked bathing on Clifton Beach, or Hawke`s Bay, or Paradise Point? There would be so much rape that the all the foreign consulates in Karachi would run out of visas.

This is a vicious attack on Mushy`s stupid remarks about visas and rapes. I hope you get this one

Enough is enough! It is time to inoke true Shariah Law on the country. Anyone who rapes will be immediately exiled to UK or US as punishment.

As usual, the answer to all evils is the imposition of Sharia Law. Sending people who rape to US or UK is another ridicule of Mushy`s well-researched thesis on the causes of rape. More sattire.

Tempy, please apologize. I am on MukhtaraN mai`s side.

Re: # 58

``...Kumbh-karan bolaa T-bhai, Kahe tav mukh rahe sukhai...``

temporal

Get a hold on yourself - Salim has not done anything wrong here....

Anycase - you should curb your tendency to play nanny in chowk. Let people say their pieces....

Arjun 55:


(….sorry binoo)…for crying out loud…the occupying army is raping every citizen every single national institution…

the sania, mai, shazia, saima we hear are nothing but the tip of the ice berg…whether it is a civil or criminal litigation…from the top to bottom there is no rule or law…the fauji’s own the country and are a god unto themselves…so no amount of crying over individual cases of abuse will get us anywhere in a rush…

(wait, let me ask anyone who was crying over saima’s cold blooded murder here…do they know what ever happened to her father, mother and uncle who were allegedly involved?)

no amount of spinning can control the damage caused by mushy’s words…

…it is a terminal cancer…the me-god syndrome…the occupying army is the all powerful god…that institution ( and along with it that thinking) has to be tackled and dismantled first…the other alternative is the one I mentioned in the first post…economic empowerment…but in that scenario also…the rule of law has to be irrevocably established first..

having said i do not expect you to understand one word of this...and i do expect you to go on your usual ramage and post anti-pakistan links:)

have a good day

t

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#49 by temporal on September 19, 2005 1:26pm PT

El-Presidente says women get raped to get visas and make money...

I think we`re beyond the point of feigning outrage at his satire...

maybe the language is too complicated for you..or maybe he needs to put <satire> tags around his post...

Temporal,
I was ridiculing Paki society and not MukhtaraN Mai. But then, you are looking for an escape goat for your own inadequate and guilt-ridden self. My conscience is clear. I condemn the rape and the rapists. I do not see the political opportunity that you are accumulating. Laanat he tum aur tumhare dostoN par.
Peace.

Temporal,
You are barking up the wrong tree. The problem is inherent in Pakistani culture - at the rural and interior level. It`s in the ``I can do anything, because I am powerful`` attitude of its leaders - not very different from yours on Chowk. Fix the problem and not those who ridicule your society.
Be sensible. Emotion and anger at words are the hallmark of the backward and illiterate people. I thought you were better.
Don`t use the plight of an innocent and truly abused woman to further your own political agenda. That is evil and a shame.

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