Bina Shah September 18, 2005
#97 Posted by friend on September 19, 2005 3:50:51 pm
T-Saheb
Did you get up from wrong side of bed? Salim`s satire was a satire... Let us leave it at that. He says that he is changing his old ways. Let us keep watching him. There is nothing to be gained by asking for explanation about his old comments.
Regards
Did you get up from wrong side of bed? Salim`s satire was a satire... Let us leave it at that. He says that he is changing his old ways. Let us keep watching him. There is nothing to be gained by asking for explanation about his old comments.
Regards
#96 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 19, 2005 3:50:37 pm
Mr. Tahmed Sahib,
Yes we are altercating. :)
Mr. Temporal thinks that I am insensitive with sattire. I think that he is like an amublance-chasing lawyer in that he looks forward to innocent women getting raped in Pakistan just so that he can gloat over Mushy`s misery.
Yes we are altercating. :)
Mr. Temporal thinks that I am insensitive with sattire. I think that he is like an amublance-chasing lawyer in that he looks forward to innocent women getting raped in Pakistan just so that he can gloat over Mushy`s misery.
#94 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 19, 2005 3:49:06 pm
Mr. Temporal,
Did your cohorts provoke me with profanity or not? Just answer that first.
Did your cohorts provoke me with profanity or not? Just answer that first.
#93 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 19, 2005 3:47:49 pm
Temporal,
It may not be too farfetched to think that you actually look forward to women getting raped in Pakistan so that you can inject some real venom in your hate propaganda against Mushy. One could almost call you an opportunist. You know like the ambulance chaser, you just chase after cries of agony and abuse.
You are so obvious.
It may not be too farfetched to think that you actually look forward to women getting raped in Pakistan so that you can inject some real venom in your hate propaganda against Mushy. One could almost call you an opportunist. You know like the ambulance chaser, you just chase after cries of agony and abuse.
You are so obvious.
#92 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 19, 2005 3:47:29 pm
Temporal,
It may not be too farfetched to think that you actually look forward to women getting raped in Pakistan so that you can inject some real venom in your hate propaganda against Mushy. One could almost call you an opportunist. You know like the ambulance chaser, you just chase after cries of agony and abuse.
You are so obvious.
It may not be too farfetched to think that you actually look forward to women getting raped in Pakistan so that you can inject some real venom in your hate propaganda against Mushy. One could almost call you an opportunist. You know like the ambulance chaser, you just chase after cries of agony and abuse.
You are so obvious.
#91 Posted by temporal on September 19, 2005 3:44:52 pm
#90 Posted by tahmed32 on September 19, 2005 3:44:49 pm
mr. temporal and mr. salim still having a ... for lack of a better word .... difference of opinion? :-)
#89 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 19, 2005 3:44:45 pm
#82, All I will say that I have responded to profanity from your cohorts, who were not banned in those days for the worst insults they hurled at me. Most of Chowk UP is my witness. Why is it always the same bunch? Ever think of that?
#87 Posted by temporal on September 19, 2005 3:40:57 pm
#82:
refrain from he-said she-said
did you or did you not author those quotes?
then we talk
refrain from he-said she-said
did you or did you not author those quotes?
then we talk
#86 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 19, 2005 3:38:58 pm
Folks,
Here is the diffierence. I am trying to focus on issues and viewpoints. Temporal and his cohorts want to concentrate on individual interactors and their ``perceived`` personalities. In a nutshell, maybe that is the essential difference between India and Pakistan. Actions, policies, law, and the news are important to Indians. To Pakistanis, the person and his personality and characteristics are more important. Who said it? what`s his religion? How many times does he pray? Does he drink alcohol?
Here is the diffierence. I am trying to focus on issues and viewpoints. Temporal and his cohorts want to concentrate on individual interactors and their ``perceived`` personalities. In a nutshell, maybe that is the essential difference between India and Pakistan. Actions, policies, law, and the news are important to Indians. To Pakistanis, the person and his personality and characteristics are more important. Who said it? what`s his religion? How many times does he pray? Does he drink alcohol?
#85 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 19, 2005 3:32:59 pm
Friend #83, {``This is a diseased system and a prime symbol of that system, Mushy is a reasonable target.``}
When you or many Indians or even some Pakis target Mushy, I would say that he is a reasonable target. When ostensibly impartial troublemakers, such as Mr. Temporal, target his favorite bete noir, I suspect the sincerity of the attacks. As I said earlier, Temporal would plant drugs in Mushy`s grandson`s diapers, just to get his enemy in trouble. This is what mean-spiritied demagogues and hateful individuals do.
Getting back to the merits of the rape case and Mushy`s stupidity, my numerous messages make my position clear. Heck, if there were true democracy in Pakistan, I would support a call for his resignation. In fact, that may not be a bad idea, as long as Temporal doesn`t get a chance to gloat over it. ``)
When you or many Indians or even some Pakis target Mushy, I would say that he is a reasonable target. When ostensibly impartial troublemakers, such as Mr. Temporal, target his favorite bete noir, I suspect the sincerity of the attacks. As I said earlier, Temporal would plant drugs in Mushy`s grandson`s diapers, just to get his enemy in trouble. This is what mean-spiritied demagogues and hateful individuals do.
Getting back to the merits of the rape case and Mushy`s stupidity, my numerous messages make my position clear. Heck, if there were true democracy in Pakistan, I would support a call for his resignation. In fact, that may not be a bad idea, as long as Temporal doesn`t get a chance to gloat over it. ``)
#84 Posted by dullabhatti on September 19, 2005 3:28:10 pm
#72
Dost ji, why so much benefit of doubt to a military dictator? while we don`t spare the politicians at all? I doubt you would make this statement about a politician if he/she blurted those words. Is it because we subconsciously believe that a politician is answerable to us but a dictator is not?
Dost ji, why so much benefit of doubt to a military dictator? while we don`t spare the politicians at all? I doubt you would make this statement about a politician if he/she blurted those words. Is it because we subconsciously believe that a politician is answerable to us but a dictator is not?
#84 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 19, 2005 3:28:12 pm
Temporal,
I thought that we were going to bury the past and start afresh on Chowk. I am abiding by my resolve not to respond to profanity with more profanity. I am trying to avoid your cohorts. If I chose to participate in discussions, why do your accomplices resort to personal attacks and attempts to bait me into angry vulgarity in response?
You were never serious about a fresh new environment on Chowk were you?
I thought that we were going to bury the past and start afresh on Chowk. I am abiding by my resolve not to respond to profanity with more profanity. I am trying to avoid your cohorts. If I chose to participate in discussions, why do your accomplices resort to personal attacks and attempts to bait me into angry vulgarity in response?
You were never serious about a fresh new environment on Chowk were you?
#83 Posted by friend on September 19, 2005 3:26:38 pm
Salim
Kindly do not treat this as a feeding frenzy at Mushy`s expense. Mushy represents that environment in our communities where powerful always gets away with anything - whether it is rape of a woman or rape of principles.
It is everyone`s frustration coming out. It is also coming out with a hope that perhaps this time we can get a big guy to act properly and make corrections to our ``diseased`` system.
I am not chasing mushy because he is Pakistani. Mushy`s mirror images are in India too. Do you think anything positive can now happen to Sonia Naz? Even if a court now convicts the perpetrators, tomorrow another Sonia Naz will get raped.
This is a diseased system and a prime symbol of that system, Mushy is a reasonable target.
Kindly do not treat this as a feeding frenzy at Mushy`s expense. Mushy represents that environment in our communities where powerful always gets away with anything - whether it is rape of a woman or rape of principles.
It is everyone`s frustration coming out. It is also coming out with a hope that perhaps this time we can get a big guy to act properly and make corrections to our ``diseased`` system.
I am not chasing mushy because he is Pakistani. Mushy`s mirror images are in India too. Do you think anything positive can now happen to Sonia Naz? Even if a court now convicts the perpetrators, tomorrow another Sonia Naz will get raped.
This is a diseased system and a prime symbol of that system, Mushy is a reasonable target.
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