Rape and Exploitation - Pakistan’s Dilemma

Romair #149

`` This is all well and good. But I must say, I am still suprised that no one is willing to debate the key aspect of rape, against women in Pakistan. What are the victims of honor rapes, themselves saying. They all seem to be pointing to one thing - feudalism and feudal culture:``

If so how hard is it to topple all those feudals ?

In either case Musharraf has done more damage to Pakistan`s image compared to actual rapists.

#170 by Zeena on September 20, 2005 5:29pm PT


Rape is an act of sexual intercourse with a woman against her will and consent.


No shiit sherlock...

I could not believe it.
I think it,s just a slip of togue as they say `think before you speak`.
one should always give a pause before saying something.
anguish of candian Muslims is justified.

#175, Arjun, some more basic definitions. :)
Martial rape is rape of or by the military or by self-defense instructors.
Marital rape is rape of or by a spouse.
Martian rape is rape of or by aliens.
Mauritian rape is rape of or by dark people speaking French.
Mauritanian rape is rape of or by dark people speaking Arabic.

#177 by Salim_Chauhan on September 21, 2005 8:59am PT

Here`s an easy one

Insertion of a projection into a depressions without permission...

covers all bases I think...

#177
...note the sensitivity of the crocodile who was only yesterday shedding copious tears on mukhtaran mai and other oppressed people of pakistan...this probably is his version of ``sattire`` not many comprehend or appreciate...

#179, Aw get off your high horse. This was in response to another message defining rape. You are just like your mentor. BTW, satire has only one ``t.`` When you copy words, remember not to copy the typo too. Stupid fool!

#178, That`s generic enough. You are right - it covers all bases, including Mr. #179`s unique concern.

Re: # 181

I think your satire earlier had a point. But I`m afraid the latest `definitions` in #177 cannot be classified as satire...at least not in good taste.

I expect posts of such depravity from the professional hate mongers, the likes of arjun_m, that`s why I never respond to them. To me that`d be like trying to snatch a bone from dog`s mouth when I neither have a use for the bone nor the dog; so why bother. He`s ostensibly aroused in #178.

I hope you don`t take it the wrong way, but I`d rather say it like it is, than sugar-coat it or let it go silently just because I like you otherwise. I hope you`re not offended.

Thanks,
:-)~~

#182 by ntsyed on September 21, 2005 12:03pm PT

oh blow yourself up in a subway somewhere already....

#182,
No, I am not offended. The definitions were not meant to be a satire. They are just a non-denominational, non-gender, non-sexist and obviously non-humorous attempt at word confusion. Haven`t you ever typed marital as martial? That`s how the silly thing started. Sorry about the sense of depravity, insensitivity, and abject depression caused by this offensive post.

As I mentioned earlier, let`s forget about the rapists and criminals and just go after the insensitive, uneducated, stupid, loudmouths who don`t know how to look serious or cry at a funeral.

#182, NT Sahib,
Did I ever tell you that Geoge Carlin and Bill Maher are my role models and source of inspiration. :)

Looking from a different viewpoint, pakistan does give more freedom to its real constituency
(sunni male) than any other nation does to its citizens. One of which is freedom to rape. You can do it with impunity as long as you follow some simple rules like not doing it in places like mosques where more than 4 pious muslims may gather. You can drag them to
any other place or even rape them in their own homes or do it in different place
each time. Dont even think about it if you are not sunni muslim, you will be lynched by
a mob before a rape is even reported. So the problems we see if pakistan are only
problems if you see through the prism of eqaul rights for all humans. If you consider
for a moment women are not eqaul to men and non muslim are not equal to muslims,
it is a perfect country, giving all rights it can, to its main constituency.

Re: # 72, Dost Mittar:

``I don`t think that the man means bad.``
Do you know the difference between errors of commission and errors of omission? When CEO Mushraff is President, COAS, Head of State, all rolled in one, can the bar be lowered by condoning his behavior like you did? Cheers

If they kill the murderer,Why NOT rapists??
Rapists do double crime.They murder innocent women`s body and soul.
So,they should be hanged infront of everyone TWICE so,that others should learn this lesson.

And as for as victims are,they should be given as much support as possible,by doing everythin possible for them to make them feel normal and healthy and socially acceptable.by helping them socially,mentally and financially.

They should be encouraged to report,so that others will be protected.

These people now argue about rapes.How come they can argue or favour this worst crime?? There are somethings in life,which are not meant to be argued.Everyone should be agreed upon favouring HANGING rapists.

Suppose,if samething happens to these people,how will they react???
I am sure they wish to kill the rapists with out even thinking twice.
And they wish the same for rapists.How on earth,can comment on such crime???
Honestly,most of these interactors and even some females ,are trying to put me down by arguing with me and by twisting my point of view.Just b/c of their insensitive nature they can not feel the pain for those miserable women.
If,Canada or America or anyone support them at this time,they are doing the best.

When a person is dying,everyone tries to save the life,they don`t start arguing or start giving comments on dying person.Any kind of support is appreciated to save the life.Same is with rape victim,They should be helped in any form,any way,any type....It doesn`t matter,all it matters is to support them and make them feel good about themselves.Not to isolate them.To discuss more about it.To save them from committing suicides.
if a murderer is punished by hanged to death or life time imprisonment .Then why not execute the rapists? b/c rapists committ the worst crimes than murder.......
Rape is an act of sexual intercourse with a woman against her will and consent.,whether her will is overcome by force or fear from thrat of force or by drugs or intoxicants; or when because of mental deficiency , she is incapaqble of exercising mental judgement, when she is below an age of consent.

Male rapists are sexual sadists, who feel pleasure upon pain of their victims; exploitative predators, who use their vicitms as objects of gratification in an impuslvie and extremely cruel way with regression to animal instinct, inadequate men, angry men who displace their anger and rage by committing this worst crime .
Rapists consider women men`s property or vulnerable possessions, a rapist`s instruement for revenge against other
men.

Rapsits always threaten and uses fists, knives,guns. Victims are beaten,wounded and mostly killed . Victim is always in a life threatening situation. Mostly they are mudered. During rape vicitms experience shock, fright and panic . Rapists urinate or defecate on their victims, ejaculate in to their faces , hair ,force anal intercourse, and insert foreign objects in to their vaginas and rectums and in to their mouths.During rape,victim struggles to stay alive.

After rape, she experiences shame, humiliation, confusion, fear, and rage with extreme depression for the rest of their life.If,they don`t have good supportive system,mostly they attempt to commit suicide or sometimes they commit suicide.
So,both ways thier lives are completely damaged for the rest of their miserable lives.

In addition to extreme physical and mental trauma with assault, they also face SKEPTICISM from those to whom they reported the worst crime.(if they had sufficient strength to do so).
or accusations of having PROVOKED OR desired the assault.
Education of police officers to deal with rape victims have helped increase reporting crime. Rape crisis centers and volunteer groups with physicians education programs have helped in treatment of victims.

A victim fares best when she receives immediate SUPPORT and is able to ventilate her fear and rage to loving family members, SYMPATHETIC physicians, and LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.Knowing that she HAS socially ACCEPTABLE recourse , such as the ARREST and conviction of the rapist can help a rape victim..
Therapy is always,SUPPORTIVE and feelings that she is socially ACCEPTABLE ,secured, and focusing on restoring a victim`s sense of adequacy and control over her life; it also aims to relieve the feelings of HELPLESSNESS, DEPENDENCE, and obsession with the assault that frequently follow rape. Group threapy is also effective form of treatment .

Now,seeing this in the light of what some of the PAKIS say about rape along with their head of state,it looks like PAKI nation is loosing it. Insensitivity , cruel appraoch, mercilessness and heartless approach towards RAPE which shows in their statements and attitudes ,calling it EMOTIONAL , RATHER than RATIONAL. Blaming victims for GAINING FAVOURS to migrate abroad.

Emotional and rational are same things.Rational and emotional are both emotions controlled by brain.
The way these BRAINLESS PAKI OFFICIALS are viewing rapes looks like they don`t have rational and emotional approach.

When a woman is a vicitm of rape,she reacts with sadness,well this is absolutely rational to express her EMOTIONS AND TO DEAL WITH THEM.

Again,this is totally,RATIONAL to support the victims in every way possible to make her feel secured,NOT NEGLECTED.By giving her EXTREME IMPORTANCE,BY MAKING HER LIVE AGAIN B/C SHE IS DEAD AND IT IS OUR JOB TO DO EVERYTHING TO MAKE HER LIVING BEING.

Thanks

Re: # 184

Thank you!

This particular post of yours separates boys from men! Case in point: the posts just before and after yours. Btw, have you got some old shoes to discard? Looks like a couple of Allah`s creatures are in dire need to sink their teeth in. Please don`t worry about the smell; they love the smell of human sole [if only they knew how to spell it] ;-)~~

Like the wise always say: ``timing is everything!``.

I like Carlin and Maher too. Both of them have a remarkable outlook on the society and politics, etc. They`re more than simple comedians; more like social-commentators with the funny bone intact.

:-)~~