Rape and Exploitation - Pakistan’s Dilemma

Re: # 33

Actually it`s even worse ... pakis like faisluno don`t realize that this is NOT about rape per se .... this is about Paki establishment`s repsonse to rape and their victims.....At the highest level of the ``govt`` - pakis harrass/oppress rape victims instead of helping them....

Rape happens everywhere - india, turkey, US .... But no head of state goes around blaming the victims....It`s just common sense - but pakis don`t get it.......And that`s not surprising - considering the history of these people and the way their nation has evolved ... common sense is not a paki strong-point...

Now this faisaluno comes up with another excuse --

3. Rape of Pakistani women is justified because Turkish and Indians do so

Earlier two excuses were

2. You can have sex with a woman in Pakistan if she lets you enter her house
1. Pakistani women get raped to make money and get Canadian Visa.

We still have place for few more gems!!

binoo:

…good piece…

feel like a parrot….have mentioned this in the ilog and the earlier two (azra and kalpana)articles…while others are discussing the short term implications i’d rather tackle the long term approach:

…women are at the bottom of the totem pole in desilands

…empowerment is the only game… a long term project and outlook is needed to turn the tables…something along the lines of micro-financed projects like the grameen bank and a mix of poverty alleviation projects

there is a fellow in karachi who was here in TO recently collecting donations for a project in karachi…his charity or foundation pays the young street beggars Rs.20 per day to get them off the streets and into the make-shift school room…

economic empowerment is the best hope for the women…the desi male`s (of which i am one) mentality is suspect, corrupt and vested and needs to be prodded sufficiently and intermittently to provide this empowerment

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... was about to add more to this when i read #17 that succinctly captures what i wanted to write:

There is no way to sugar coat this. Musharraf’s initial comments were despicable and his subsequent retraction or explanation is a disgrace. A man who can’t stand by his words is unfit to run a country. I think the man’s misogynism has finally broken through the façade. He’s more concerned about preserving the international “image” of Pakistan than working towards eradicating the problem. These atrocities continue to happen under his watch. He’s part of the problem, not the solution.

lve

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Re: # 36
This is what ``Chris Cork`` says in http://jang.com.pk/thenews/

``And I can report to you Dear Reader that the vast majority of the men I meet and talk to entirely support the President in his remarks. Most men in Pakistan (and here I am at risk of dangerous generalisation!) would not disagree in major part with the view that some women profit by being raped,...``

So Mushy is right - that`s what pakis are saying on subject of rape .... and Mushy himself believes in it - otherwise he wouldn`t reproduce that thought in international media....

Re: # 36

``he is now a big target for western journalist..every future interview my bet is that the producer will lay a well-researched trap leading his foot to his mouth. this is unfortunate. ``

Hopefully that will put some brakes on his globetrotting with big entourages and save
Pakistan some foreign exchanges.

Anyway, muzay lagata hai Musharraf sahab ke aam chusnay kay din paas aa rahe hai.

mushy seems to indicate in his interview that he is merely voicing opinions of many in islamabad. who are these many? if true, that would be worst..kinda like many believing in wtc conspiracy

he is now a big target for western journalist..every future interview my bet is that the producer will lay a well-researched trap leading his foot to his mouth. this is unfortunate.

well this is so sick of him.......musharaf is shouting about human rights since the war of america against afghanistan.......but i`ve never seen him ever in his life he said something good for women of pakistan......he was so sick with his views about rape case....newly happened.....we just forget about mukhata maye case for a while.....and just let`s talk about the new case.......now as far as i got to know his mentality about women of pakistan he just wants women to get naked in front of world.....because he is working hard for libral islamic republic of pakistan....let`s forget all these cases which are on air now a days.....i tell you guys one more case happened in lahore walton area......where a doctor raped a 14 years girl for 5 to 6 days....what the hell was that......oh my GOD! are we eligible enough to say that we are favouring or fighting for human rights.......if he says then he is most stupid man in the world ever came.......and now if somone believes then there isn`t gonna anyone more non-sense than him

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40,

Uncle Sam laready did the deed.

I said this elsewhere, but it probably also applies to this board.

Re: # 44


he he he he he...

`` It`s a good thing that Sania Mirza doesn`t play in Pakistan - she would be ripped to shreds.``



But Carla Khan the new Squash sensation does.....!!!

Re: # 44

You are wonderful dear Salim. They are wary of publcizing indivividual rapes abroad but they publicize massive rape of Kashmiri women, calling it a sacrifice for freedom of
Kashmir. I don`t know what they mean by freedom. We have an Azad Kashmir but no Azad Pakistan. We had once an Azad Pakistan Party lead by Mian Iftikharudin marhoom. So can`t we have an Azad Pakistan through rapes. Musharraf may be fearing that Mukhtaran Mai, vested with Fatimah Jinnah Gold Medal, may challenge him in the next presidential elections.

What`s with all this rape happening all too frequently in Pakistan? Can you imagine what would happen if a higher percentage of Pakistani women were not in burqa? It`s a good thing that Sania Mirza doesn`t play in Pakistan - she would be ripped to shreds. And, we should be thankful that all our female news readers on TV put on that protective cloth over their heads when reading all the news about rape and honor. Now, some people want to allow women in Lahore to run marathons! I mean what are the odds of a woman surviving rape in a whole 26 mile run? That is approximately the distance between the US and UK embassies and Chaklala - give or take a few miles. Then there is Meera - no wonder Pakistani women are getting raped right and left. If women act as Meera and dress like her, they are going to get raped. At least the ones at home are getting raped by momins, not like Meera going next door to get raped.
Can you imagine what would happen if they allowed near-naked bathing on Clifton Beach, or Hawke`s Bay, or Paradise Point? There would be so much rape that the all the foreign consulates in Karachi would run out of visas.
Enough is enough! It is time to inoke true Shariah Law on the country. Anyone who rapes will be immediately exiled to UK or US as punishment.

chowk staff

re: 44:

kindly remove this utterly insensitive and offensive post

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