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#26, Thank you, Tahmed Sahib. I think that actions speak louder than words. The ban on MukhtaraN Mai`s ability to travel was much more damaging and insensitive than Mushy`s stupid comments. I don`t agree with Temporal, though, that rape is a cornerstone of the military dictatorship`s domestic policy. I hope you can understand the separate issues I voiced - disgust at the sanctioned rape of MukhtaraN Mai, stupidity of Mushy`s comment, and regret at people such as Temporal making a circus out of rapes in Pakistan to advance their own insidious political agenda. As far as relations with India are concerned, I am hopeful. The hatred expressed by Indians here on Chowk is unfortunately not unlike the hatred people in Pakistan have for each other, just because of the uniform de jour. In reality, both Indians and Pakistanis are fond of each other and can get along.
Have a nice evening, Sir.

Salim: that is a good point you make in #21 about the real wrong-doing on the part of the musharaff government being that of trying to prevent mukhtar mai from speaking out. as for you earlier point about relations with india, i think anyone who has seen the amount of hatred in the post of every second indian on chowk would understand why Pakistan was founded.

Kulharee: Pakistan has its problems, like any society. However, Pakistanis dont need the services of Pandit-Hates like you and ``paki-paki`` arjun from India to remind us of the religious primitives we have in our society.

If you people really were concerned about the plight of women - you would look at the cesspool that exists in India - a cesspool of greed - where brides are burnt to death in the tens of thousands every year in order to make room for a second one with dowry; where parents kill their unborn daughters with the help of doctors who abuse their access to modern technology to identify the gender of the unborn - to the extent of there being a deficit of available females for marriage to the tune of 25 million in just the delhi/haryana area alone according to one article i read in a US paper.

What a wonderful gift Democracy is! How wonderfully civil our S Asian IT generation is!

Turning the most horrendous of women`s dilemma into a slugfest to cover personal inadequacies and hatred. As if Musharraf`s stupidity wasn`t enough, every Ditta and Hari is dying to show off the pimple on his bony ass.

Kudos to both ``bright`` and ``educated`` Indians and Pakistanis.

:-)~~

Kulharee #22, {``It is your Military that is raping the country, and is doing it dry. A dumbass and unintelligent Army Office makes 10 times (not counting his servants) than a 100 times brighter engineer in Public sector in Pakistan``}

Now you understand why I am for reunification. Now you can have it all - democracy, Kashmir, better economy, a somewhat better judiciary, free elections, women`s rights, and you won`t need a visa to visit Bihar. Try it you might like it. No Mushy, no BB, no Nawaz.

Re: # 20

Dear Chauhan Sahib… give it a break. What in the world does Clinton or Bush even remotely have to do with the royal dumbness of Pakistanis? Just because Bush said something doesn’t mean that Pakistan is not a mess in terms of women and minority issues. You can’t point fingers towards Punchayat or Police or Courts while completely ignoring the fact that over 50% of our GDP goes towards the inept and most corrupt Armed Forces, and it leaves monkey’s testicles for other sectors of the economy. If there were justice system and Police presence (Police who is paid at par with Military bastards) in rural Pakistan, there won’t be cases as such (or at least as many). It is your Military that is raping the country, and is doing it dry. A dumbass and unintelligent Army Office makes 10 times (not counting his servants) than a 100 times brighter engineer in Public sector in Pakistan. A WAPDA engineer of Grade 18 can’t even afford to pay his electricity bill, and an Army Captain has his own Standard issued driver. Go figure.

Also, I think that preventing Mukhtara Mai from traveling was more sinister, cruel, and problematic than the utterances of a stupid man who doesn`t think before running his mouth. That was a deliberate attempt at suppression of free speech. We should throw Mushy and his gang out for that reason and NOT for this stupidity.

At the risk of getting banned by Mr. Temporal and his henchmen, let me try to shed some logic into this issue:

THE CASE OF THE MUKHTAR MAI RAPE IS NOT YOUR COMMON CRIMINAL RAPE CASE INVOLVING SERIAL RAPISTS OR MASS RIOT-RELATED RAPES INVOLVING GANGS OR VIOLENT MOBS. THIS RAPE WAS SANCTIONED BY A QUASI-LEGAL AUTHORITY, THE GRASSROOTS DEMOCRACY, KNOWN AS PANCHAYAT. THE SO-CALLED ``HONORABLE`` MEN PUNISHED AN INNOCENT WOMAN AND OTHER ``VOLUNTEERS`` CARRIED OUT THE VERDICT OF THIS AUTHORITY. THE POLICE, THE ADMINISTRATORS, AND EVEN THE LAHORE COURT ARE IMPLICATED IN THIS TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE. THERE IS A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM HERE THAN MUSHARRAF, MUKHTARAN MAI, VISAS, AND THE WASHINGTON POST. THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE THINKING OF VILLAGE LEADERS AND LOCAL POLICE, NOT TO MENTION THE LAHORE COURT.

Rape is wrong. It`s criminal. It needs to be stamped out. There is never ANY excuse for rape. Stupid people often say stupid things and Mr. Temporal is no exception. Mushy was not misquoted, he actally said something that was insensitive, stupid, and may be fatally harmful to his position as ``president.`` But then, Bush said one or two insensitive things when he went to New Orleans about him having ``too good a time in NO while a young man.`` How about the notorious ``It`s a Crusade`` comment right after 9/11. We all remember Bill Clinton`s ``I did not have ...`` comment. Maybe the embarrassment of this goof will be sufficient impetus for Mushy to get to the bottom of the Lahore Court, Multan police, and Panchayyat mystery. Dictatorship does have its advantages - maybe we won`t have to wait for years for some simple answers and quick justice.

aww...prophet tahmed(peace be unto his self-righteous left butt cheek) is ignoring the indian interactors again...

Re: # 15

Those who rapped MukhtaraN Mai and those are making fun of rap are not Indian monkey-men. They are your dedicated 5-time Nimazi Hajis Aashik-e-Rasool Allah pious and righteous men.

faisaluno: what ``Political capital`` is chowk going to make from this?? i realize of course that your beloved dictator is incapable of doing or saying anything wrong.

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#13/#14 I see the indian monkey-men have crawled into this article as well. :-)

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Mantolives comment#1 is a perfect example of his character:

He is rationalizing the rape (it happens everywhere) and the mistake seems only
about Mushys comments !! - so all that needs to be done is some PR !!

A typical Rich-Anglicized-Paki-Elite view.

The issue is not only about the rape, but the whole systemic issue of the the laws
and the behavior of the authorities.

Mantolives comments show that the so called ``educated/liberal`` elites of pakistan
are merely pretenders - wanting to cover up the problems.

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