Unfit For Command

yasmeen,

it seems you are blowing hot and cold in the same breath. you have yourself mentioned in your article that nothing has happened to Dr. A. Q. Khan as the president ensured the same. isn`t that good? we are still trying to recover from the embarrassment caused as a result of aimal kasi`s illegal extradition..........all thanks to a civilian, elected government.

as for the issue of mukhtaran mai. why should she be permitted to go abroad in the first place? tell me, why hasn`t any pakistani NGO invited a rape victim from the united states or united kingdom or europe for a talk in pakistan. in fact inviting other country`s rape victims for talks would at least enlighten us on the treatment received by them by law enforcing agencies and other NGOs in the so-called west. think for a moment.............what is mukhtaran mai`s agenda?

Re: # 74

How can you invite European or American rape victims to Pakistan if their passports are confiscated with restrictions of their travel abroad? Do you think Pakistan is the only country that does it?

Also, Pakis would bend backwards to internationalize fictional “Rapes of Kashmiri women at the hands of Indian Army”.

Talk about head in the ass.

#71, {``And Mr. Chauhan, i am glad you passed the geography test on karachi administered by Grand Inquisitor khamkhwa. .. regarding of whether kulharee is a self-loathing pakistani or a pandit-hate pretending to be a self-loathing pakistani - let us just agree to disagree.``}

Tahmed Sahib,
Le Grand Inquisiteur Monsieour Khamkhwa. LOL :)

Sir, what say you about a DNA test of the Axeman? Now that he has invoked Mohtarma Umaro Jan Adaa of Faizabad, Oudh fame.

party goes on while i was away, i see.

lets see where the discussion is at now:

kulharee`s great grandma was Marilyn Monroe!! Now I understand why he has been hopping like a ``Cat on A Hot Tin Roof``.

And Mr. Chauhan, i am glad you passed the geography test on karachi administered by Grand Inquisitor khamkhwa. My own knowledge of karachi geography begins and ends with the space between the Arrivals section of Karachi airport to the Departure lounge.

Mr. Dullabhatti sahab and Janab barkhoodaar Salim: regarding of whether kulharee is a self-loathing pakistani or a pandit-hate pretending to be a self-loathing pakistani - let us just agree to disagree.

Re: # 71

Tahmed32 Sahib, my maternal great grandma was a resident of Hira Mandi Lahore, and her real name was MiraN Bai Mahendergath Wali (Mahendergath is in Haryana) and we refer to her as Marilyn Monroe with affection. The legend has it that she was a Rakhel (girlfriend) of my Tharkee (horny) great grandpa and he got her pregnant when she was only 9. Then my grandma Umrao Jan Adaa came into the world who married into a very prominent family of northern Punjab (Nawab of Kalabagh family, if you must know) and then after that the history is a little murky, as all my male ancestors (from paternal side) were playboys and drunks and Allah knows how many girls they screwed around with. I feel that I have a little bit of every possible DNA of North Indian tribes. I hope that it makes me Pakistani enough for you to consider me a Pakistani. I will be eternally grateful to you if you bestowed the title of “Pakistani” on me. I am not suggesting that I wont still be ashamed of it. I sure will be. Please don`t call me Indian, Your Lord, I am not worthy of it.

#69, Dullah Bhai,
Where were the Kennedy Brothers when Ghaznavi was cheating on Ayaz with Marilyn?

Salim, don`t confuse yourself too much with Kulharee`s claims...Kulharee`s paRh-daadi was called Marilyn Monroe in the whole village for some reasons which I don`t want to disclose here... ...believe me looks was not one of the reasons.

tu meri main tera, toRh wichhoRiN naaa
alaRh pune wich layeaN wekhiN toRhi na.
tu meri main tera..

#67, {``with lineage back to Marilyn Monroe and Ghaznavi, ``}

Kulharee Sahib,
You are pulling my leg, right? :)
I mean Marilyn Monroe! - and all this time I thought that Mahmud was loyal to Ayaz. :)

#65, Tahmed Sahib,

To continue with my last message, I must remind you that statlwart, sons of the soil like Mr. Khamkhwa even administered a pop geography quiz to me concerning locations and distances in Karachi. I passed this test, something that Mr. Temporal would have easily failed thanks to his singular dexterity in matters of geography. Since then Khamkhwa has stopped questioning my Pakistani credentials - now he just calls me Mir Jaffer. Little does he realize that Mir Jaffer committed treason against India and not Pakistan. :)
Peace.

Re: # 66

Chauhan Sahib,

The famous Pakistani Rajput tribes in my part of Punjab are: Tiwana, Majouka, Bhatti, Chauhan, Wattu, and Noon, etc. These are not the same as Jat tribes, that are also in plenty in my part of Punjab (Waraich, Awan, etc… ). However sometimes these are classified as either/or.

I happen to be an Animist and Qutbshahi with lineage back to Marilyn Monroe and Ghaznavi, which makes me a little bit better Pakistani than you, but apparently not as good as my buddy tahmed32, who is Qureshi.

Peace.

Tahmed Sahib #55,

Sir, it is not very often that I take a position contrary to yours. In the case of Kulharee Sahib, may I recommend that we all take him at his word? After all, he is merely claiming to be a Pakistani and not Swiss or Costa Rican or Swedish or Finnish - countries whose citizens are rightfully proud of any bragging rights.

I say this because I myself have been a victim of doubt from people such as Khamkhwa and Temporal. Both of them have questioned by religious identity, my ethnic background, my nationality, my previous nationality, and even my domicile.

I guess they would really respect me more if I had said that I was a Sunni Sayyad, Pakistani and a direct descendant of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), with my ancestors coming directly from the sands of Arabia to the fertile city of Lahore. Why would any Pakistani be proud of being a napaak Rajput in the Land of the Pure? Why would one admit to being Shia in the land of Sunnis? Why would one want to be Turk when being an Arab or a Pathan is more impressive?

Why would anyone claim to be a Pakistani if it were not true?

Submitted with all humility and sincerity.

miriam #62, {`` think you may be adding 2 and 2 and getting 5 here. ..
... If you keep halting it and instituting a dictatorship every time there’s corruption, we’ll never get there. But by all means improve the system of checks and balances so there are consequences to corruption.

Miriam,
Actually I added 2 and 2 and came up with 4.5 :) I apologize for the slight exaggeration.

Each time the four prime ministerships were interrupted was a case of the country going to the dogs. There was violence, rampant corruption, and military called in by these ``civilian`` dictators to shoot their own people in the streets of Pakistan`s largest city. The last time, Nawaz Sharif knew no bounds. He was firing people left and right and trying to turn a huge mandate into a unanimous one for his perpetual rule. ZAB was guilty of similar violations when he rigged his election, which he would have easily won failry anyway.

Your idea about checks and balances is a good one. Now, who will enforce these checks and balances? The military?

salim:
#59

This gives the appearance that he may actually look forward to more rapes just so that he can put the final nails in Mushy`s coffin..

I think you may be adding 2 and 2 and getting 5 here. But I did want to clarify the earlier comment, so thanks for the explanation.

And regarding the corrupt governments of benazir et al, of course I concur. But as an extremely wise friend of mine pointed out to me, when I said a similar thing some months ago. The road to democracy is seldom smooth, especially for countries like Pakistan. Let the people decide; hold elections, have a vote. Pakistan has to learn its way into a democracy. If you keep halting it and instituting a dictatorship every time there’s corruption, we’ll never get there. But by all means improve the system of checks and balances so there are consequences to corruption.

miriam

Re: # 62

Miriamk. Not only is the road not smooth, it has a steep rock on one side and a 100000 feet ditch on the other, and there is no fence either to prevent a caravan from falling. The democrats in Pakistan tend to believe that it will solve all problems of the country, and that view is no different from the anarchist or those who think dictatorship or a theocratic state is the answer. The only system that may ever be successful in cases like Pakistan is provincial autonomy tied only by a lose confederation, and let everyone have their own little form of what they want (including Mullahism) – the result of such a structure will be (Inshallah) similar to what happened to Yugoslavia, and I am sure it will please a lot of people. I am all for it (not that it matters), and I hope unlike the Greece`s objection to Macedonia, Sikhs wont object to a country called Punjab.

Bhatti Sahib… I am your Kulharee, and you are my Gandasa.

Typing haraami with one ``a`` after ``r`` got it highlighted....eh Chowk censorship baRhi burger ay;)

Tahmed baba, for the last time....no has ever won a Nobel Prize or dinner for 2 at McDonalds on Chowk for winning an argument but for the sake of sayign it once again that what I am saying is truth....too bad he is thorn in the but but he is a Pakistani...if you say he is a haraami and kanjar of first class I will agree with you...he is the biggest lucha you will find on...ahem..your side of the border:-) ..emphasis is on `your side of the border`.:-)

I understadn you disagree with his views....no problem with that....what you do based on that is wrong...you call him Indian because his views don`t fit streotypical Pak views. Thats all. aggay tusi bazurg te siyane O.