Nighat Yasmeen September 20, 2005
#11 Posted by arjun_m on September 20, 2005 5:55:15 am
Let`s take a look at musharraf`s record..
Tasked with taking back siachen: FAILURE
Planned to do a siachen-in-reverse in Kargil: FAILURE with an added bonus of abandoned bodies of Pakistani soldiers
Promised to liberate Kashmir from the hindoos: FAILURE...
Bottom line..he`s a failure...but what can you do about it? DIDDLY SQUAT....
Tasked with taking back siachen: FAILURE
Planned to do a siachen-in-reverse in Kargil: FAILURE with an added bonus of abandoned bodies of Pakistani soldiers
Promised to liberate Kashmir from the hindoos: FAILURE...
Bottom line..he`s a failure...but what can you do about it? DIDDLY SQUAT....
#10 Posted by faisaluno on September 20, 2005 4:52:39 am
says a lot about the kind of people who run this website that they would try to make political capital out of an issue as serious as the issue of violence against pak women. and the desperation of these people is quite comical. this article for instance is a rehash of an article already published by this ``house wife/author`` almost two months ago in s.a. tribune. why this fact is not acknowledged should be fairly clear.
i think people behind this website are getting desparate because of the following development. coincidently, the firm accused paying bribes is the same firm that employed kojo annan and is in the middle of oil for food scam:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_20-9-2005_pg7_2
Benazir Bhutto appears in Swiss money probe
GENEVA: Former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto re-launched her defence against Swiss charges of money laundering on Monday, appearing in a Geneva court and saying the accusations were politically motivated...``
more details available here.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/110999_report.htm
also friday times reported last week that zardari went on a shopping spree two weeks ago in london for which he claimed gbp 35,000 in vat refunds while exiting the airport.
no wonder people are getting desperate.
#9 Posted by Kamath on September 20, 2005 4:46:08 am
One of the funny thing about the Kommando General is he honestly believes he is the Ata-Turk of Pakistan, protector, defenderand guide towards the destiny of Pakistan. He is absolutely devoid of any sense of mortality of human beings. How nice.
So the fate is sealed. After Mush who? Possibly another General!
So the fate is sealed. After Mush who? Possibly another General!
#8 Posted by harish_hyd on September 20, 2005 4:39:32 am
#7 by ahsan8211
[Is there any hope for the nation? I can not wait to see this guy go away.]
Ahsan,
It is not going to be easy. It is easy to free the physically enslaved but not the ones that are mentally enslaved. Over the decades, Pakistanis have come to believe in the infalliability of their military. The Paki Army has made excellent use of propaganda (I say even better than Goebbels) to discredit civilian leaders and pump up its own invincibility, which is why the average Abdul was jumping with joy when Musharraf overthrew Nawaz Sharif and took over. It has successfully brainwashed Pakis into believing that the wars that it actually lost were glorious victories and those wars that became publicly known as defeats (like the one at Kargil) were blamed on incompetent and cowardly politicians (in this case Nawaz Sharif). Bangladesh was blamed on the scheming witch of a woman, Indira Gandhi. This false sense of superiority over the civilians has led them to demand privileges that are not accorded to an ordinary Paki.
Over the years, even ordinary Pakis have caught the habit of blaming everyone else for the plight Pakistan finds itself in.
It is going to be generations before Pakis can come out of this mindset. A mindset that is perpetually looking for quickfix solutions without realizing that what took generations to imbibe will take decades to unlearn.
[Is there any hope for the nation? I can not wait to see this guy go away.]
Ahsan,
It is not going to be easy. It is easy to free the physically enslaved but not the ones that are mentally enslaved. Over the decades, Pakistanis have come to believe in the infalliability of their military. The Paki Army has made excellent use of propaganda (I say even better than Goebbels) to discredit civilian leaders and pump up its own invincibility, which is why the average Abdul was jumping with joy when Musharraf overthrew Nawaz Sharif and took over. It has successfully brainwashed Pakis into believing that the wars that it actually lost were glorious victories and those wars that became publicly known as defeats (like the one at Kargil) were blamed on incompetent and cowardly politicians (in this case Nawaz Sharif). Bangladesh was blamed on the scheming witch of a woman, Indira Gandhi. This false sense of superiority over the civilians has led them to demand privileges that are not accorded to an ordinary Paki.
Over the years, even ordinary Pakis have caught the habit of blaming everyone else for the plight Pakistan finds itself in.
It is going to be generations before Pakis can come out of this mindset. A mindset that is perpetually looking for quickfix solutions without realizing that what took generations to imbibe will take decades to unlearn.
#7 Posted by ahsan8211 on September 20, 2005 4:21:42 am
Yasmeen, you sumed it very nicely. I fail to understand why Pakistani people are willing to live with this kind of behaviour. Is there any hope for the nation? I can not wait to see this guy go away.
#5 Posted by Beej on September 20, 2005 3:27:42 am
#article
[For what? Only because of one man’s high handedness, his total intellectual bankruptcy and his awful supporters and advisers. ]
Anyone who attributes the treatment of Ms. Naz to “one man’s high handedness” rather than the system the man represents must be complimented for superhuman powers of equanimity – and for having the focus of Eklavya – to be able to look only at what one wishes to look at.
[To tell the truth, instead of a seasoned statesman, he behaves more like a half-mad janitor.]
It’s good to know that our Mushy’s behavior has some redeeming characteristics - at least half so!
#4 Posted by Beej on September 20, 2005 3:19:39 am
(Enter Mantolives)
(Enter the camel)
Camel (C): (In pain) Hi Manto!
Mantolives (M): (To self) Oh no, he wants to make me look like a fool! (Aloud) Don’t you DARE make me look like a fool!
C: Relax. I have a LOT of respect for lawyers! I am afraid of people with words – especially expletives. Besides, this load is killing me.
M: (Pouting) I will have you know that over fifty percent of my interacts are expletive-free! And what’s the big deal with that load – everyone has problems – every camel carries his own load – even the one across the border! And Mushy looks like a pretty light-weight rider to me – as riders go.
C: (Groans with pain under heavy load) It’s not him personally – it’s all that baggage he sits on top of – and absolutely refuses to let go – and his foot, with which he keeps kicking me.
M: Don’t worry about his foot – it’s firmly in his mouth!
Mushy (Mus): Hold on camel, here is another little bag for you – no big deal – consider this light as a straw.
C: It is too much!
(Dies the camel)
M: It was all the fault of that straw – one lousy straw – and every one now wants to have a field day blaming Pakistan! (Looking over the shoulder) I hope the Indians are not looking. (Reassured) Cool! At least, that camel did not make ME look like a fool!
(Exit Mantolives)
#6 Posted by Dash_Dot on September 20, 2005 3:55:32 am
Re: # 4
now that was one intereact which thread the eye of the needle....I hope my man mantolive`s understands the issue
now that was one intereact which thread the eye of the needle....I hope my man mantolive`s understands the issue
#3 Posted by smartsyco on September 20, 2005 3:18:06 am
``I can bet 90 % rikshaw-wallas plying the roads of Pakistan would have shown better judgement in analogous circumstances than the infinite wisdom of two consecutive chiefs of army staff put together – without ever crossing the well-guarded gates of fabulous Staff College.``
I agree...........lips zipped.................
the same question occurs in my mind.......can we trust this person anymore.Specially in the case of Dr AQ khan.......as he said leave Dr AQ khan on me......i am between Dr Aq khan and the rest of the world...after listening his comments about the rape case....and he is the biggest politician ever came in the history of the world.....he straight forwardly denied whatever he said.......in rape cases........but unfortunatly....mr President.......the tape had been recorded......so you got no more excuse.......
he is shouting human rights since he took the presidency........and shouting in all over the world..........
let`s forget about the recent rape case.......and talk about the dr shazia and mukhata maye.....do you suppose to say mr president you are leading your country towards most scure human rights...
this is embarassing for the whole nation....specially for women........
I agree...........lips zipped.................
the same question occurs in my mind.......can we trust this person anymore.Specially in the case of Dr AQ khan.......as he said leave Dr AQ khan on me......i am between Dr Aq khan and the rest of the world...after listening his comments about the rape case....and he is the biggest politician ever came in the history of the world.....he straight forwardly denied whatever he said.......in rape cases........but unfortunatly....mr President.......the tape had been recorded......so you got no more excuse.......
he is shouting human rights since he took the presidency........and shouting in all over the world..........
let`s forget about the recent rape case.......and talk about the dr shazia and mukhata maye.....do you suppose to say mr president you are leading your country towards most scure human rights...
this is embarassing for the whole nation....specially for women........
#2 Posted by harish_hyd on September 20, 2005 3:14:14 am
#1 by Mantolives
[Pakistan is caught in the crossfire between a gun totting crazy mad General and an equally crazy and idiotic New York Times columnist.]
Yaar Yasser, you give way too much credit to Kristoff for the crossfire Pakistan is caught in. Is your country so weak that one ``idiotic NYT columnist`` can alter its fate? If anything, Pakistan is caught in the crossfire because of Mushy`s idiotic actions (putting Mukhtaran Mai on the ECL) coupled with his foot-in-the-mouth disease evidenced by his blatantly callous remarks. I personally feel the people of Pakistan are to blame for having allowed this man to speak for them.
The whole episode reeks of how Paki rulers are intolerant of an aggrieved woman (or for that matter man) speaking out her mind.
[Pakistan is caught in the crossfire between a gun totting crazy mad General and an equally crazy and idiotic New York Times columnist.]
Yaar Yasser, you give way too much credit to Kristoff for the crossfire Pakistan is caught in. Is your country so weak that one ``idiotic NYT columnist`` can alter its fate? If anything, Pakistan is caught in the crossfire because of Mushy`s idiotic actions (putting Mukhtaran Mai on the ECL) coupled with his foot-in-the-mouth disease evidenced by his blatantly callous remarks. I personally feel the people of Pakistan are to blame for having allowed this man to speak for them.
The whole episode reeks of how Paki rulers are intolerant of an aggrieved woman (or for that matter man) speaking out her mind.
#1 Posted by MantoLives on September 20, 2005 1:20:31 am
This is a well written article...
Musharraf has a penchant for making a bad situation worst... rapes do happen in all countries but in Pakistan, our tinpot makes a mess of things by making stupid statements...
Ironically it was his decision to personally target Nick Kristoff and deny him Visa to visit Pakistan that became the tinka that tickled poor Nick... so much for being a world class journalist from the the most widely read Newspaper in the world... Pakistan is caught in the crossfire between a gun totting crazy mad General and an equally crazy and idiotic New York Times columnist.
Musharraf has a penchant for making a bad situation worst... rapes do happen in all countries but in Pakistan, our tinpot makes a mess of things by making stupid statements...
Ironically it was his decision to personally target Nick Kristoff and deny him Visa to visit Pakistan that became the tinka that tickled poor Nick... so much for being a world class journalist from the the most widely read Newspaper in the world... Pakistan is caught in the crossfire between a gun totting crazy mad General and an equally crazy and idiotic New York Times columnist.
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