Poor People are Dogs or Even Worse!

kulharee: #18

i don`t know if i agree with what you`ve said. some friendships do end when one realizes that their friend is not the person they claim to be. it isn`t always possible to stand by a person and bring him back to ``ideals``. i know. sometimes i can`t stand by my own shadow! :)

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the other thing i was thinking about, in terms of jawahara`s question, and in terms of some of the narrator`s words is that this story probably had to end where it did to describe aqil`s action. but what about the narrator`s reactions. . . from ``i will always support you aqil, no matter what. . . .`` to ``he always amazed me. he did not disappoint me this time too.`` is the ``end`` necessarily clear as to what the narrator`s thoughts were here?

our own perceptions betray us as well. . . .

delhiwala # 11,

why did you not stop the boy from being beaten up. obviously your glasses were more imp than the boy.

>>>>You are 100% right. The poor-rich in fact is a relative term. The rich have both sympathy and hatred for the poor but the latter have only hatred for the rich<<<<<

Shah ji, that’s one messed up assumption if I ever heard one. Where did you hear that the poor have only hatred for the affluent? Did you know that Jesus only had one blanket as his worldly belonging and even the dogs of Nazareth were richer than he was? Do you believe that he hated everyone?

Poor people don’t hate rich people, they just don’t like stuck up rich assholes that think that being born in a well to do family makes them somehow gifted and somehow they own the world.

I agree with you that poor/rich is relative. It is comforting to run into waiters and cabbies in NYC whose families back home own “Murabbas”. Zimindaar my ass.

Frankly speaking ,
The poor are worse then the dogs anyway.

Right from the day they are born till they die , they are treated like dirt . baicharay tukroN pai pultay haiN...cant get any decent education , decent living , decent medications if they are ill...even if they get some minor diarrhea or disease , they die right or left....

I have always prayed to God...Allah MiaN...eik kutta extra bunna dai , pur kisi ko ghareeb mut bunna....

Re: # 7

urstruly

You are 100% right. The poor-rich in fact is a relative term. The rich have both sympathy and hatred for the poor but the latter have only hatred for the rich. Doesn`t the very term `poor` mans `the down-looked one`? Have we not divided the world even into 1st, 2nd and 3rd class. The 1st class world doles out aid and charity to the 3rd world but do the latter love them for that. They are always contriving how to bring them down. This is the play of pride and jealousy (Hassad) inherent in all human beings. We call one poor with a sense of privilige and pride and he hates us for that. How truly Mian Mohd Bakhsh, a Punjabi poet, depicted this fact in his couplet:

Niichaan di ashnai koloon faiz kise na paaya
Kikar te angoor charhaaya te har guchha zakhmaaya

I think that Butt has no balls (pun intended). He should have not only slapped Aqil on the face real hard (like in a Bollywood Movie – dialogue pesh-e-Khidmat hey: “Aqeel, main nay tumhay Khuda samjh kar Rakha or tum ko Bout bana kar Tumhari Pooja ki, magar tum itnay Haramkhor niklay – tum ab meray leay galee kay os Kutay kay barabar ho jo sirf Bkhota rehta Hey magar os ki BhonkaiN koi nahee sunta”.

I also agree with Ana. Once you have made a friend, you can’t just end friendship on someone’s low point. You stand by the person, and hope to bring him back to the ideals that first made you call him your friend.

Re: # 16
Good Point, nut such type of harsh realities happen more often in Paki/Indi Land not in Europe. That is why everybody talks about these countries.

i have known quite a few people like aqil. i`ve been warned about men (and women) like him. yes people do like to talk the talk - it is walking the walk where they falter.

and i`ve been thinking about jawahara`s question. not to defend the first-person narrator of this story, but when you`ve practically adored this person like the narrator seems to have, and then are ek dum shocked by his verbal violence, it isn`t all that easy to have an immediate response to such behavior but to express silent shock. of course once that registered, then perhaps aqil should have been called on his cruel behavior.

and where and why would this story give the impression that this happens ONLY in pakistan. hypocritical behavior like this happens all over the world. it`s not like cruelty and evil are restricted to pakistan, and anyone who would think that is beyond ignorant. i guess we are rather touchy and defensive about our qaum if we were to assume that people would think this happens only in pakistan.

Re: # 5
Maybe he is already here.

Re: # 13
Yaar Godot,
I don`t know what to do in such like cases except feel sorry and put my head down in shame like a looser. I am very serious when I write this.

I have seen these beggar-kids in absolute low abused form as you can imagine, my dog lived in 1000 times better conditions than these 3-5 yr old boys/ girls who are made hookers or sold to brothels.

Once I saw a stripped naked young girl(14-15) old in a 4X4X4 cage in Old Hyderabad, Head Randee was offering her for 200 Rs for breaking her virginity(Laung Utarna ceremony) to these lusty Jatt Punjabis who were drunk. This was near the business area, not too far from the thana and a famous Mosque. She was sobbing and totally deviod of shame after 12 hrs of being in the cage, on further enquiry Dalal said that this is how they break these girls.

I spat on my Punjabiyat Mardangee and never saw these so called friends again. One of them who got this girl was accompanied by his Mama(mother`s uncle), a rich Jamindaar of Jalandhar.

How can we accept such like things and not do anything?

Events like that were very instrumental in making me migrating to West.

Anyways, thanks to listening.

Re: # 12

Delhiwala -

Back when I was in eight grade in Pakistan, I read a book Mera Naam Mungoo Hai It was a true story narrated by a little boy who gets kidnapped and what happens to him was what you write. It`s the cruelest account I have read to date. When I hear stories like that, I wonder about the nature of man and the cruelty he is capable of inflicting on a fellow human being.

I also want to mention another sad incidence that I saw in Nizaamuddin Auliya area of Delhi.

If you have ever been to Nizammudin you would know what I mean. There are professional beggars with deformities such as no hand/leg/toungue etc. On further enquiry I found that a gang of criminals steals babies and cut their hands/feets/toungues and make them beg. These babies are shipped from far off places like Bengal or Hyderabad.

This was the most sickening sight of my life just outside the entrance to Hazrat Auliya`s tomb(like a good Delhiwala I used to go there) and then see these beggars. Local thanedar when complained to said that he cannot interfere in Muslim affairs. What a Khusra!

Meanwhile, rich Muslims come and throw a ruppe or two in the begging bowl and do their Tsk-tsk and offer Moong Halwa, and the show goes on.

Mr Mubasir,
Is this fiction or real?
I have seen similar things in India also.
Once I was missing my SunGlasses and everyone in the neighbourhood pounced upon this poor little boy(Maid Servant`s son). She left the house crying and this kid got a bad beating from everyone in the neighrbourhood and his mother because he was last seen admiring my American goods.

Next day, I found the SunGlasses fallen under the Car seat.

I could not locate this woman and her son since then and this still haunts me.

It is very sad to see little kids, just like our own serving us like Dogshit.

I tried to reason with people in India and everytime I get the same answer ``if we dont employ them they would be worse off or become thiefs etc``.

Ye Kaisa Insaaf hai!!

Re: # 7
You must be out of your mind by attacking the poor people.

ha! This reminds us of some of our resident chowk liberal buttworms.................

specially nazar hayat khan, who got a PIA woman employee kicked out because she objected to his smoking in her office.......

PS Actually, other side is pretty much the same: the large number of jamaatis (leaders and not rank and file) who drink and fornicate is amazing....

2 number liberals, 2 number mulla, 2 number dehriyay... jeevay Pakistan!

This is a story. It seems that people are treating this like a real life experience.

People have to find their niche in the society and they find it sometimes in areas that are not exactly representative of their personal life. Aqil found his niche in the city as a social worker and he did what he had to do to excel. He may be a horrible person in his other life but in his life as a social worker, he apparently did a wonderful job as has been portrayed by the author. Now his failings as a human being are mostly hidden from people who admire him for his work.

People live dual life. People from the rural areas, when they move to the cities try to adjust to the culture there but they become what they actually are once they get back to their roots.

I bet if this was a real story, Aqil would not even consider his attitude towards children as abhorrent. This was all normal. He grew up with that but he would never repeat that in his other life, the life of a social worker in urban setting.

Mostly, people who move between cities and the rural areas in Pakistan or even in India would know that it is fairly common. The son of a rural zamindar would behave differently in Karachi than he would in Mirpur Bathero, Bulri shah karim or Jhok.

A good example is Mustafa Khar. People would recognize the name immediately. You see him in Karachi gymkhana or the Sindh Club and you will find him a perfect gentleman but he would treat people like sht from his charpai in his village.

This duality is a part of our culture. We don’t see this in the West as the culture does not change a whole lot from the rural areas to the urban areas but in the subcontinent, the life in a village and especially villages where zamindar still rule, is different from the life in the cities.

For primarily city dwellers that have not seen the village life extensively, these differences are often surprising but for people who regularly move between cities and villages, there is nothing unusual in this story.

I have read this story with different characters several time.