History Does Repeat Itself in Pakistan

ekmalang #15

`` First of all let me remind all of my Indian ``Freinds`` here that Kargil was taken from Pakistan the same way. i.e Indian Army climbed up the post during winter and survived until summer. When Pakistani soldiers try to go back up in Winter they were stopped by Indian Army. So Pakistan did not do any thing different, Kargil was ours before and Pakistani Army tried to take it back. My personal opinion Mian Sharif if not bow to the pressure Kargil was ours to loose. If my Indian friends could remember they had nothing but losses in all the conflict. If NS just would have Shutt Up and instead of running to DC should hav run to Bieging we would have been OK.``

What makes you Pakistani soldiers on those hilltops would survive laser and satellite guided bombs from Indian air force bombers ? Clinton could have supplied India with those bombs directly or indirectly through Israel or Britain.

`` India has a nag of being cunniving and stabbing you in your back and we have many expamples to proove that. Siachin they want to fight us for a glacier and won`t even go back without marking the current positions. This tells you the lack of honesty these people have for God`s sake its a glacier. Go home and sleep its no one`s to claim. I just believe that no matter what Indians and especially Hindus will never be friends of ours we can be decent neighbours but they will never be honest with our people.``

Pakistani elite has a record of deception that will never be matched by the Indian elite. You can look to 1971, Kargil, Taliban, AQ Khan smuggling etc.

#17 by bbabu
``What makes you Pakistani soldiers on those hilltops would survive laser and satellite guided bombs from Indian air force bombers ? Clinton could have supplied India with those bombs directly or indirectly through Israel or Britain``

I guess we never got a chance to see if India would have gotten Laser Guided Missilles and if yes how the Jawans would have survived. Thats my whole point we should have let this be won on the ground, I guess Mian Sharif thought the same why as you did lets save few jawans from Laser Guided bombs......

``Pakistani elite has a record of deception that will never be matched by the Indian elite. You can look to 1971, Kargil, Taliban, AQ Khan smuggling etc.``

Let me just say that Indian Elite is as curropt as Pakistani elite if not India would not be one of the most poor countries in the world. With all the resources available India should be an economic power. With Pakistan we had Military rule for the most of the part so it was never chosen governemnts. So we didn`t have choice which culprit on the other hand Indians chose their thieves personally.

``India has a nag...etc..``

Arre mere bhai, tau hamara time kyon khali peeli me barbaad karate ho?

(Be careful. There is very dangerous Hindu stuff hidden in that line) :)

ekmalang #18

````What makes you Pakistani soldiers on those hilltops would survive laser and satellite guided bombs from Indian air force bombers ? Clinton could have supplied India with those bombs directly or indirectly through Israel or Britain````

`` I guess we never got a chance to see if India would have gotten Laser Guided Missilles and if yes how the Jawans would have survived. Thats my whole point we should have let this be won on the ground, I guess Mian Sharif thought the same why as you did lets save few jawans from Laser Guided bombs......``

It is hard to say no to Uncle Sam when you have less than a billion dollars in reserves and you need IMF help.

Why stop at a narrow incursion like Kargil ? Maybe you should send the entire Pakistani army to conquer Kashmir ?

What stopped Mushy and his boys from obeying Nawaz`s dash to Washington and subsequent order to withdraw. They did not have any problems disobeying his orders three months later.


````Pakistani elite has a record of deception that will never be matched by the Indian elite. You can look to 1971, Kargil, Taliban, AQ Khan smuggling etc.````

`` Let me just say that Indian Elite is as curropt as Pakistani elite if not India would not be one of the most poor countries in the world. With all the resources available India should be an economic power. With Pakistan we had Military rule for the most of the part so it was never chosen governemnts. So we didn`t have choice which culprit on the other hand Indians chose their thieves personally.``

India has less per captia resources than Pakistan - land, water, energy etc. India has received less foreign assistance on a per captia basis than Pakistan. You do not see too many people in the Indian public accusing the Indian leaders of being a lackey of foreign interests. It is hard to say that for the Pakistani leaders. India has more diversity which makes governance a little bit more difficult. Barring Nehru`s disatrous affair with state socialism Indian leaders have governed much better than Pakistani leaders.

ekmalang #18

````Pakistani elite has a record of deception that will never be matched by the Indian elite. You can look to 1971, Kargil, Taliban, AQ Khan smuggling etc.````

`` Let me just say that Indian Elite is as curropt as Pakistani elite if not India would not be one of the most poor countries in the world. With all the resources available India should be an economic power. With Pakistan we had Military rule for the most of the part so it was never chosen governemnts. So we didn`t have choice which culprit on the other hand Indians chose their thieves personally.``

Why change the topic to corruption ?

Your original rant was
`` India has a nag of being cunniving and stabbing you in your back and we have many expamples to proove that. Siachin they want to fight us for a glacier and won`t even go back without marking the current positions. This tells you the lack of honesty these people have for God`s sake its a glacier. Go home and sleep its no one`s to claim. I just believe that no matter what Indians and especially Hindus will never be friends of ours we can be decent neighbours but they will never be honest with our people.``

Please tell us why Indian leaders are any more cunning than Pakistani leaders

#21 by bbabu

``Please tell us why Indian leaders are any more cunning than Pakistani leaders``
The reason Indian Leaders are more cunning than Pakistani leaders is because India never accepted Pakistan..... It is Nehru`s words that if they (Muslims) are seperate than they won`t even survive 2 weeks.....Why would you think he made this statement ... it is because he knew that Congress and British governemt will split the subcontinent and resources up the way Pakistan could not survive .... On the other hand Jinnah and the Muslims just wanted to live independently ..... As a result of the decisions made in 47 we saw Bangladesh split up .... Kashmiris have been asking the same from India but it is Ok for India to Interfere in 1971 in what was East Pakistan ... but not for Pakistan to interfere in Kashmir.....The list goes on and On ... the only reasons Indians are crying is because Pakistan was succeeding in Kashmir with Militants and people ...... If you look at the history of both countries you will see that India never accepted Pakistan as an Independent country and your politicians did every thing in their power to break this country up... Until ........... that brings me to AQ Khan ...... That guy just shutt India up as you know now Pakistan could Nuke India (hopefully in theory only).... and if India decides to Nuke Pakistan it will be as nuking themselves ... thats why your Prime Minister goes to USA and wags his tail on expense of Khan .... And you know what is funny he is your president`s cousin ........ talk about deception if not corruption ... you guys are still ahead ......