Rizwana Khan October 1, 2005
#112 Posted by kidbeegorilla on October 4, 2005 1:35:24 pm
grammatical errors in an essay on the English language! ugh!
#113 Posted by temporal on October 4, 2005 7:37:19 pm
digression:
am not following this debate between you two...but something bawa-ji wrote caught my eye and made my day:
Your long drawn response not withstanding, I will, once again, try to explain your logic to you.
lol
am not following this debate between you two...but something bawa-ji wrote caught my eye and made my day:
Your long drawn response not withstanding, I will, once again, try to explain your logic to you.
lol
#114 Posted by tahmed32 on October 4, 2005 7:53:35 pm
mr t: i read behram`s post after reading your comment, and behram`s post makes good sense. so, perhaps it is just that you dont like his views - in which case you should say so rather than picking on a single phrase.
on a broader note, one important point that is missing in this entire discussion is that urdu simply does not have the capacity (in terms of available words) to meet the demands of today`s world. the same is true for virtually all other languages in the world today: even ``japanese`` today is full of english words that have been twisted to fit japanese way of speaking. the french try to hold on to their language and even tried legislating out use of english words in the 1960`s - and failed. For the simple reason that standard french has only 90,000 words (compared to 3 million in english!!). urdu seems to have even less (look up any urdu looghaat and see how it compares to an english dictionary).
so like it or not, the future is english. and anyone sitting abroad who claims otherwise is like the baluchi tribal leaders who send their sons to western universities while denying even elementary education to the children of their tribesmen in the name of baluch pride.
on a broader note, one important point that is missing in this entire discussion is that urdu simply does not have the capacity (in terms of available words) to meet the demands of today`s world. the same is true for virtually all other languages in the world today: even ``japanese`` today is full of english words that have been twisted to fit japanese way of speaking. the french try to hold on to their language and even tried legislating out use of english words in the 1960`s - and failed. For the simple reason that standard french has only 90,000 words (compared to 3 million in english!!). urdu seems to have even less (look up any urdu looghaat and see how it compares to an english dictionary).
so like it or not, the future is english. and anyone sitting abroad who claims otherwise is like the baluchi tribal leaders who send their sons to western universities while denying even elementary education to the children of their tribesmen in the name of baluch pride.
#115 Posted by temporal on October 4, 2005 8:17:41 pm
tahmed :
bhai that sentence was intentionally or unintentionally funny...that is all:)
as i confessed in the first sentence am not following the pow-wow
bhai that sentence was intentionally or unintentionally funny...that is all:)
as i confessed in the first sentence am not following the pow-wow
#116 Posted by sattar2 on October 6, 2005 2:45:53 pm
temporal … if it’s any consolation … without knowing ins and outs of the discussion, I also found the opening line of #111 to be funny. I got another kick when you reposted it. But then came honorable tahmed sahib ... anxious to deliver a deprecating sermon. You just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time … and no … it’s not your fault. It’s an old habit of Sahib, and I think it helps him deal with his moral anxieties when he runs out of prozac …
++++++++++
tahmed … you haven’t changed … what a pity …
#117 Posted by mehnazhyder on October 7, 2005 10:39:26 am
Interesting that with all that English, you rarely com across a Pakistani who is actually able to speak it well.
#118 Posted by discoverer on October 22, 2005 6:42:27 am
humm... if language of power does matter then it`s up to an individual to make it popular and understandable, most of us say that pakistani`s need english in order to support their ground but this is just a misconception. The fact remains that we try to be what we aren`t, from the day british rule this sub continent many of our ancesters believed that it english tht make us successful and not urdu or say hindi. it is this ideology that leads our teenager to forget their mother language.
I feel very sorry when i see two people of same nationality, of same city talking with each other not in Their mother language but in ENGLISH. those sort of people are better know as BURGER FAMILIES in Pakistan.
I feel very sorry when i see two people of same nationality, of same city talking with each other not in Their mother language but in ENGLISH. those sort of people are better know as BURGER FAMILIES in Pakistan.
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