Hiren K Bose October 3, 2005
#1 Posted by yossarian on October 3, 2005 9:44:22 am
now why do I get the feeling that mantolives will come out all guns blazing...
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#2 Posted by arjun_m on October 3, 2005 9:54:04 am
Greatest man ever who walked on the earth...` said Einstein.
Uh-Oh....Manto`s going to pop an artery...
#3 Posted by Ashutosh_Gandhi on October 3, 2005 10:09:46 am
A wonderful article with nice flow of events and explanation.
There is no doubt that Gandhiji is the greatest man ever who walked on the earth in these modern times.
There is no doubt that Gandhiji is the greatest man ever who walked on the earth in these modern times.
#4 Posted by Beej on October 3, 2005 10:56:39 am
This author goes over well-trodden ground – for all practical purposes, this type of write-up can be recycled repeatedly and endlessly – few surprises are likely to emerge on the Mahatma now.
It is truly remarkable what Gandhi was able to achieve – considering how impractical some of his basic ideas appear now and how naïve his belief in the basic goodness (and not greed) of the human heart appears to have been! Gandhi’s ideas would only work if the minds that are exposed to it have at least a degree of openness to different ways of looking at things. (Imagine trying to touch the hearts of the current crop of suicide bombers by trying to get them into touch with their “good” selves!)
Like most men who look taller in retrospect, he was a man belonging to his times – he is well-deserving of respect – yet blindly following every little thing he ever said – after all these years – will not work.
He was admittedly imperfect but continued to grope toward where he considered perfection to lie.
And that is the truth!
#5 Posted by kaurasach on October 3, 2005 11:00:13 am
Gandhi was a goonh da keera (shi t worm). The colonists bestowed him with honors because their favorite sob (pet) kept injuns docile and colonized. A hijra worshipped by sheep and petted by kanjars.
#6 Posted by Kulharee on October 3, 2005 11:01:02 am
Gandhi ji is my hero.
He would not approve of being referred to as the greatest man ever to have walked the earth. His ideology of non-violence and equality along racial and religious lines is a gift of humanity to God(s). In Pakistan, we name commercial and household products after our heroes: e.g., Iqbal Airport, Iqbal Chawal, Iqbal Mangoes, Iqbal Pakoray, Iqbal Road, Iqbal College, Iqbal Library, Iqbal Town, Iqbal Dhaga, Iqbal Sweets, Iqbal Tobacco, and Iqbal Fans. I was wondering if there are products in India named after Gandhi ji?
He would not approve of being referred to as the greatest man ever to have walked the earth. His ideology of non-violence and equality along racial and religious lines is a gift of humanity to God(s). In Pakistan, we name commercial and household products after our heroes: e.g., Iqbal Airport, Iqbal Chawal, Iqbal Mangoes, Iqbal Pakoray, Iqbal Road, Iqbal College, Iqbal Library, Iqbal Town, Iqbal Dhaga, Iqbal Sweets, Iqbal Tobacco, and Iqbal Fans. I was wondering if there are products in India named after Gandhi ji?
#7 Posted by mohar11 on October 3, 2005 11:15:11 am
Re: # 5 kaura
Don`t be so harsh on the old fool :) He wasn`t that bad....
But I understand why you are so mad at him ....
Don`t be so harsh on the old fool :) He wasn`t that bad....
But I understand why you are so mad at him ....
#8 Posted by ali_1 on October 3, 2005 11:17:20 am
Gandhi has been a successful marketing story for Injuns for two reasons:
Firstly, Gora Public is intrigued by the exotic.... why would a leader refuse to clothe, insist that he has to sleep with his nieces and has to keep the family goat in the family room....?!?
Secondly, Gora Sahib loved the non-violent uncle tom who hurt himself rather than hurt the saab, memsaab or baba log. Gora saab loved to ``play`` moralistic/humanistic and loved to display his concern for the well being of the native..... so that all the anglo indians, parsees, ICS brown sahibs and other priviliged hanger ons could clap with teary eyes if some morsel was handed out to the native (all because naked fakir was fasting unto death and gora saab took pity or his heart melted.... yeah sure!)
Would India have won freedom without a violent struggle a. la. Algeria if there hadn`t bee WWII? I think the answer is NO, even if Gandhi had remained naked, milked his nieces and slept with his goat for the rest of his life....... He had performed those stunts after WWI without success.
Firstly, Gora Public is intrigued by the exotic.... why would a leader refuse to clothe, insist that he has to sleep with his nieces and has to keep the family goat in the family room....?!?
Secondly, Gora Sahib loved the non-violent uncle tom who hurt himself rather than hurt the saab, memsaab or baba log. Gora saab loved to ``play`` moralistic/humanistic and loved to display his concern for the well being of the native..... so that all the anglo indians, parsees, ICS brown sahibs and other priviliged hanger ons could clap with teary eyes if some morsel was handed out to the native (all because naked fakir was fasting unto death and gora saab took pity or his heart melted.... yeah sure!)
Would India have won freedom without a violent struggle a. la. Algeria if there hadn`t bee WWII? I think the answer is NO, even if Gandhi had remained naked, milked his nieces and slept with his goat for the rest of his life....... He had performed those stunts after WWI without success.
#9 Posted by kaurasach on October 3, 2005 11:26:33 am
The sick Hinjuns PROUDLY sing of their SHAMEFUL traits.....Instead of commiting suicide, they sing about their cowardess thus,
``Hum Ous Desh kay waasi hain, jahan Gandhi nay Danda khaya tha...``
It should be Choopa tha (of British).... is more true. He chooped and the Hinjuns were sodomized; Alas, they had orgasms from the sodomization....What lowly race. THOO!
``Hum Ous Desh kay waasi hain, jahan Gandhi nay Danda khaya tha...``
It should be Choopa tha (of British).... is more true. He chooped and the Hinjuns were sodomized; Alas, they had orgasms from the sodomization....What lowly race. THOO!
#11 Posted by Beej on October 3, 2005 11:30:48 am
#5, #9 Kaura
Therefore, it’s probably safe to assume that it would be an overstatement to say that you are passionately in love with the Mahatma!
#12 Posted by Kulharee on October 3, 2005 11:33:44 am
English were not much of colonists, had it been Jews who ruled India, there wont be any India or Pakistan. It will all be Delhi Strip and west bank of Indus. Jews know how to control the uncultured crap. Only a bunch of fuking Desis will look for faults in someone who got them their liberation. If it weren’t for Gandhi Ji, you will all be singing God save the Queen, and by Queen I dont mean Mohammad Ali Jinnah.
#13 Posted by mohar11 on October 3, 2005 11:34:08 am
Re: # 8
//....Would India have won freedom without a violent struggle a. la. Algeria if there hadn`t bee WWII?...//
Of course NOT!!! That`s true for most colonies - with or without violence struggle.... In case of India - violence struggle may NOT have succeeded either, even though that would have been more gratifying and glorious than the non-violent resistance which makes you look meek and weak....
But gandhi`s greatest contribution was NOT freedom from the colonisers - his greatest contribution was to the reform of a calcified hindu society....
//....Would India have won freedom without a violent struggle a. la. Algeria if there hadn`t bee WWII?...//
Of course NOT!!! That`s true for most colonies - with or without violence struggle.... In case of India - violence struggle may NOT have succeeded either, even though that would have been more gratifying and glorious than the non-violent resistance which makes you look meek and weak....
But gandhi`s greatest contribution was NOT freedom from the colonisers - his greatest contribution was to the reform of a calcified hindu society....
#14 Posted by kaurasach on October 3, 2005 11:36:21 am
Since when is eating a danda - something to sing about??????? Why do hinjuns wear it as a badge of honor??
#15 Posted by KaalChakra on October 3, 2005 11:44:13 am
All we needed was another round of ``Gandhi - Good or Bad?`` debate! :)
#16 Posted by ali_1 on October 3, 2005 11:52:07 am
#13 ``But gandhi`s greatest contribution was NOT freedom from the colonisers - his greatest contribution was to the reform of a calcified hindu society....``
Good for the Hindu society.... but I`d still question the mental faculties of anyone who claims that Gandhi was a ``freedom fighter``..
Good for the Hindu society.... but I`d still question the mental faculties of anyone who claims that Gandhi was a ``freedom fighter``..
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