Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale

Behram..you realise you are just a Neutered Effete Paki Parsi , right ?

Albert Einstein : `` Gandhi was the greatest human being ever to walk the face of the earth``

Nelson Mandela , Martin Luther King JNR - both heavily inspired by Gandhi and his philosophy , which they used in their own struggles in their own countries , against apartheid and for equal rights for colored people.

Cuckolded Fool , Potty Mouthed Wife and their friend the Neutred Effete Paki Parsi : `` Gandhi was ugly , racist , evil , misogynist hypocrite , and oh yeah , Ambedkar once called Gandhi a hindu fanatic , and Ambedkar`s word is the word of the Lord. ``

But ultimately .....it doesn`t matter what any of the above luminaries have to say , for there is only one God in today`s world and that is $$$ and the Market is the prophet ....atleast that is what we new age hindooo fanatics worship.

MK Gandhi , along with Albert Einstein and perhaps JFK is one of the greatest brand names in history. That is why Fortune-50 companies with $100 billion turnover like Apple, HP and IBM use him to sell their productS....

Consider this...

No matter what The Cuckolded Fool and his Potty Mouthed Wife say about Gandhi , he shall remain one of the most globally recognisable names - respected and famous , known to every 8-9 year old school kid in Boston as well as in Rome , in Barcelona and in Sydney.

Your Jinnah , no matter how hard you try to push him , is a minor provincial or local leader famous in a little third world country called Pakistan and infamous in the rival country , India. Bascally only known to third world subcontinental types. Jinnah is the Pakistani actress Meera compared to Gandhi`s Marlyn Monroe....

Meanwhile , The Cuckolded Fool , his Potty Mouthed Wife and their Neutred Effete Paki Parsi friend continue behaving like famished ugly street dogs drenched with drainage water and barking at the stars..

Dear Chowstaffers,

I don`t know how this works but keep your main page up for another month or so before it slides off to oblivion.

We are determined to crush the goons of Gandhi lovers.

Respectfully submitted,

Behram B. Atashband

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behram:

``Did you not know that Behram is the holiest fire of the Zoroastrians. Did you not know that Atash is sacred to us? ``

this holiest of the holy fire would have extinguished long time back if it were not for the land of gandhi who gave refuge to your people and allowed them to practise their religion and traditions.

``You are as foul mouthed as your despicable Gandhi was?``

and now you acknowledge the deed of jadav rana by calling gandhi despicable, foul-mouthed? i challenge you to show how foul-mouthed gandhi was. what you are saying about gandhi doesn`t make you a despicable liar?

remember, your forefathers ran away from getting killed in a islamic country to preserve the holy fire and now you are singing peans about a person who founded a islamic nation? you are disgrace to your community.

Beej:
these are wonderful pictures!. could you elaborate on the people behind this project? There seems to be a narrative flow throughout these photographs which is kind of remarkable thing to pull off given the turbulent times that these were made.

many thanks.

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Dear Netizen:

Again, with due respects. Integrity to me is to do what I say I will do.

When Jinnah wanted hindu-muslim unity he was 100% authentic because that is exactly what he wanted. When Gandhi did not want the breakup of India, he was 100% authentic up untill August 14, 1947; because India was united. Gandhi became inauthentic after that.

When, on the other hand, Jinnah was forced out of his hindu-muslim unity dream then of course momentarily he could be considered out of integrity. He regained his integrity with his determination to get Pakistan. And that is where he is 100% full of integrity.

Besides, we never consider Jinnah to be a Mahatama.

Knowledge is just like love, it is in the eyes of the beholder [earlier i thought you really have some scoop on gandhi and will defend it intelligently as you have done in case romair]

[you are a silly debator and have no grasp of topic at hand]

Knowledge is just like love, it is in the eyes of the beholder

[you jumped in the bandwagon claiming gandhi was anti-women solely on the basis of the article and 300+ posts.]

This is false here is my very first post:

#44 by behram1 on October 4, 2005 8:52pm PT

Dear Aisha,

Thank you for an excellent article.

Several of my Parsi friends from India did not have high regards for Gandhi, although he was from Gujrat. Those who were well read always admired Jinnah because he was the most emancipated person of his time.

Keep up the good work.

Respectfully submitted,

Behram B. Atashband

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And here is my first post critical of a Gandhi lover


#46 by behram1 on October 4, 2005 9:45pm PT
Re: # 40

Dear Anil:

With your permission I like to respond to your post #40 to Aisha.

You suggest that all men of Gandhi’s generation had similar views regarding women. If this logic is true, then in today’s world all men should have similar views regarding women. And you would agree that they do not.

I have always condemned and written-off certain aspects of our previous society. It is not what Gandhi has said or not said that I would like to debate. You must agree that when there is a discussion regarding India with non-Indians (read westerners, mainly Americans), there is a certain amount of pride that Gandhi-lovers exude, whilst Pakistanis and/or Jinnah are mentioned as a jest.

As you have rightly suggested, Gandhi is dead physically. But his values and those who get political mileage out of his values are still around and that is exactly what is being discussed.

Aisha, has shown no malice towards the dead Gandhi. She has only enlightened another view about the political Gandhi, which some of us would like to observe and understand.

You are absolutely correct that this person was a failed lawyer, and until very late in his life he was a failed politician as well. I am amazed that his values does not fit today’s world that is barely 60 years after his death. And some Gandhi lovers have deflected the topic at hand and tried to articulate the happenings of the world some 200 years ago.

By your own assertion, you who have lived in the US since 1970, should know this well by now that those who desire public life expose their values and views about everything, from early childhood. With such a standard, why should Gandhi be an exception?

Anil, your assertion that Indians have moved on and left August 15 behind is completely bogus and cannot be validated. Your effort, nevertheless, is admirable.

Personally I believe that Aisha has done an excellent service by highlighting the inadequacies of a corrupt politician. If you have moved on, thank you. Please don`t waste your time here.

Respectfully submitted,

Behram B. Atashband

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And when the corrupt thought of Gandhi lovers started comparing Gandhi with the Prophet of Islam continued unrestricted that I decided to really get involved.

And here is where I really jumped in I provided some criteria between values and authenticity.

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#267 by behram1 on October 6, 2005 9:29am PT

Dear Yasser and all,

Thank you very much for all the efforts that you have taken in disseminating the voluminous information regarding the subject matter. This should create the enhanced value of our lives as we go forward. Forward-looking individuals (or groups) would normally want the world to be a better place while exiting the world. Almost all thoughts and values are evaluated against a barometer of how are we contributing to the conversation going forward to make the future a better place. As a society we provide integrity to almost all our values. (My definition of integrity is I do what I say that I will do).

We discard values that are not in congruence with the prevailing norms of our society, whether these are today’s values or values of yesteryears. If these values are not in conformance with the actual inner-self value then the world recognizes the in-authenticity of the proposed value. Regardless of how popular the individual or the group may be, it is the complete (read 100%) value that is authenticated.

It appears Gandhi continued his struggle with this in-authenticity. What he projected for public discourse, what he preached was not what he practiced. As an individual he was not an authentic person.

Respectfully submitted,

Behram B. Atashband

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So you see, I have remained values oriented and consistent with my integrity.

I am sorry if Gandhi had no integrity from time to time.

As always respectfully submitted,

Behram B. Atashband

Sri-paiye

tch tch...foaming at the mouth and forgetting your manners and etiquettes, eh! Go gargle with Listerine and brush your teeth. Your breath stinks and everyone at Chowk can smell it.


Behram – give this guy a break. He’s in a frenzy. He needs help, not admonitions. His blood-pressure has shot through the roof. He can get a stroke. Get him a glass of brandy to calm him down. And while you are at it, can I have a martini, please, shaken, not stirred.

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Dear rsridhar:

We are still OK. We don`t call other`s holiest of holy name names. Did you not know that Behram is the holiest fire of the Zoroastrians. Did you not know that Atash is sacred to us?

No, of course not. You are as foul mouthed as your despicable Gandhi was? Show me one great Parsi leader as astute as Sir Dadabhoy Navroji, the champion of India`s freedom to support Gandhi and his despicable qualities of leadership.

[What have they done to u in Pukistan man?] We see love and respect where ever we are and that is a fact. Unfortunately for you, it is only religiosity.

Respectfully submitting,

re:#1115 by godot
looks like u are having a fit there. or perhaps somebody did something to your rear end.
Sridhar

Re: # 1114

Dear rsridhar:

Did you get that pakistani sugar cane to quelch the ``Atash`` in your ``gaand``. Or may be you need a bawa jis? Or do you want persian`s?

Stop your rubbish and learn how to be dignified.

Is it not true that Gandhi used to sleep with her grand daughters on the same bed? Whatever happened to his wife?

Utterly disguted with Gandhi lovers, but still will continue to submit respectfully,

Chowkidars, please consider going back to the old system of displaying only a limited number of interacts per page. Under your present system, this page takes forever to load even with a 6MB cable modem connection.

re:#928 by behram1
Abey Berahm Aatish-e-gaand,
What have they done to u in Pukistan man?
You guys were O.K as long as u were in India.
Sridhar

The pictures tell you that the men and women around Gandhiji were there of their own free will and that this was no cult - there was no dress code and you could wear whatever you wanted. Whether Gandhiji was autocratic or not, he didn`t brainwash people into doing what they otherwise would not do. What distinguishes him from every other ordinary person is that deliberately and methodically transcended that ordinaryness. He didn`t have an imposing personality nor was he physically attractive as some astute pakistanis have observed. And yet people congretated around him because he was a natural leader. They trusted him to make hard decisions which he did. He also saw the freedom struggle as something bigger than simply exchanging one set of rulers for another. He wanted the individuals, the villages, the communities to be free in being able to determine their economic and social terms, and he wanted to congress party disbanded.
Even as intellectuals such as Nehru were eyeing socialism and big public projects as salvation for a poor and depleted nation, Gandhiji sought to revitalize self-governance at the local level and build a nation from the ground up. He was for decentralization whereas, in the aftermath of the Partition, pretty much every other bigwig wanted a strong, authoritarian central government.

re:#928 by behram1
Abey Berahm Aatish-e-gaand,
What have they done to u in Pukistan man?
You guys were O.K as long as u were in India.
Sridhar

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``It is a pity that we even have to defend one of the greatest human beings who ever lived in the 20th century and that too with the Puki crowd of half witted morons.``

hehehehe....hoo hoo hoo hoo...haa haa haa haa...!!!!

re:#1017 by friend
Behram whaterver is a total nutcase. That happens to minorities if they live in Puki land.
Sridhar