Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale

``Jinnah wanted Pakistan and he got it. That is authenticity. That is 100% integrity.``

Does Jinnah need such friends and admirers? People of such fine logical skills and highly developed sense of morality and fair play?

``We have two (2) strikes against Gandhi. Strike one (1) is that Gandhi had problem with women, and strike two (2) his non-violent strategy had limits.``

Respected Behramji

Nothing personal, but one sincerely hopes that you do not have any role in shaping the destiny of even a mouse, let alone the whole of Pakistan.

As usual, glad to see you still alive and so full of respect for everyone.

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Dear kaalchakra:

I am sorry that I got to you so late. You have always been my favorite. I was just stuck explaining your other Gandhi lovers regarding their views. I hope that you have the the forgiveness that Gandhi so eloquently suggeted that an ``eye for an eye`` would make the whole world blind. How anti-jewish that could be? But, of course that argument is for another day another site, please stay tuned.

Right now we just have to deal with Gandhi`s inauthenticity and his integrity regarding women.

Please rest assured I am no where close to shaping [Nothing personal, but one sincerely hopes that you do not have any role in shaping the destiny of even a mouse, let alone the whole of Pakistan.] anything. I have a hard enough time working with my own growth. You see like Gandhi I am always a work-in-progress. Unlike him though, I am a Zoroastrian, and have to always remain a subdued member of the minority community.

I submit, respectfully

Dear netizen...

Your posts have been typical hagiographic nonsense... which have not contradicted my claims about Gandhi...

You are welcome to take up the issue in 1067... or should I repeat it?

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dude manto:

i don`t take your rantings seriously anymore.

you carry on with you one-line gems.

you are a wasted talent

Behram,

Even though you did not ask for advice, I am forced to give it to you.

Do yourself a huge favor. Please STOP posting on this thread and topic. Move on.

It is quite obvious that you have no leg to stand on. You have painted yourself into a corner and are desperately clutching at straws. You are babbling. I am telling you that it is pathetic.

In future, please think before you leap. For now, please move on...there is always another thread ...and an another day....

Mantolives

You find Behram`s arguments cogent?

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Dear Netizen

To say that you are casting pearls before swine will be unfair to the swine.

Also Gandhi was naive in his belief that Hitler could be transformed were the latter to really read the Bible. You are being similarly naive in believing that a person who has chosen to be what he is can be turned into a human being were he or she to actually read Gandhi`s words.

But then evil cannot always be destroyed. Sometimes one just hopes it will be reformed.

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``Also Gandhi was naive in his belief that Hitler could be transformed were the latter to really read the Bible. You are being similarly naive in believing that a person who has chosen to be what he is can be turned into a human being were he or she to actually read Gandhi`s words. ``

I have realised that manto and behram are just the product of paks identity as are hamidm, godot.

it was interesting to listen to their view-points and arguments.

manto wouldn`t go beyond certain quotes and behram would arrive at unsubstantiated conclusions and then ask others to disprove them.

at least it has exposed the ``open-mindedness`` of the highly-educated ``liberal`` pakis. it has more to do than just gandhi, i think it is about the hatred they harbour for hindus.

Behram akalband

``Gandhi who recommended his nonsensical ``non-violence`` strategy against Hitler`s aggression is why most Jews hate Gandhi``

Man! can you answer one straight question? Who are these ``most jews``? Can you quote some?

The oldest trick in the book... can`t defend Gandhi attack Jinnah... well Jinnah`s integrity was admitted by even his doughtiest opponents... but he is not the topic of discussion... Gandhi is...

So let us see you defend Gandhi against Behram`s cogent arguments...

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manto miya:

i am not trying to belittle jinnah to uplift gandhi

my attempt is to turn behram arguments upside down. just stay tuned.

also, it would help you if you read all the posts and try to make sense of them.

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Dear Netizen:

Please do turn [my attempt is to turn behram arguments upside down. just stay tuned.]

I will be a very happy camper to see Gandhi`s authenticity validated at this site.

The question still remains that Gandhi was inauthentic. The fact is obviously missing out on you. Read this article. Would it not be better to discuss about the article? then dignifying my posts. I thank you for that, and Oh yes. Jinnah wanted Pakistan and he got it. That is authenticity. That is 100% integrity. You do what you say you do, and you do it. Got it.

I remain, humbled by the knowledge I develop by your interaction, and I submit respectfully,

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``Jinnah wanted Pakistan and he got it. That is authenticity. That is 100% integrity.``

ask your cheer-leader whether jinnah wanted pakistan or it was forced on him by congress/gandhi.

you will come out with a big surprise, isn`t manto miya ;)

Behram Atashband,

I salute your courage in standing for the truth in wake of some of the most horrible abuse and insults by our Indian friends, who obviously can`t handle disagreement.

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manto miya:

still no replies.

it is pathetic to still a fiery ``debator`` turning into a docile cheer-leader.

Dear Respected Mr. Behram1

Allow me to explain a basic fact of humanism.

It is sufficient that you pit yourself against Gandhi. One of the two is certainly a great failure as a human being. But please don`t pit Zoroastrianism against Gandhism. Why spread the harm to other good Parsi people?

Returning your respect to you, and sending you best wishes

Glad to see you harmed neither by nature nor by neighbor.