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Gandhi in The Handmaid’s Tale

Aisha Sarwari October 4, 2005

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#1075 Posted by Godot on October 10, 2005 5:25:17 am
Re: # 1074

Scout

Unfortunately, I had lunch before I saw those pictures. It rocked alright...my stomach, that is. Needless to say, I had to buy a new keyboard and five bottles of Fantastik for the cleanup. What a mess.

Warning: Don’t eat for four hours before you click to see that barrel-chested Rock.
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#1153 Posted by pakihunk on October 10, 2005 4:13:32 pm
Re: # 1075


dude i didn`t even look at the pictures, did i miss somethng
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#1154 Posted by mohar11 on October 10, 2005 4:16:25 pm
Re: # 1153

Not really... Hate-Gandhi party is just starting... Come on in :)
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#1073 Posted by MantoLives on October 10, 2005 4:52:40 am
Beej,

Waiting for your response for 1067...

Is it that your pics really say more than words could ever?

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#1072 Posted by MantoLives on October 10, 2005 4:50:36 am
Like I said... unlike Dr King, Mandela and Einstein, B R Ambedkar experienced Gandhi`s wrath first hand..


Harish Hyd,

Anyone who reads Mahatma Gandhi`s collected works is free to come to his or her own conclusions.. I don`t know about Pakis and what they think... The fact of the matter is that this is my opinion and I believe in it wholeheartedly.

-YLH
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#1071 Posted by harimau on October 10, 2005 4:41:59 am
Just have 20 Indian Army divisions posted along the Pak border and rattle the nuclear saber. You will find our dear boy Yasser and his wife bemoaning the fact that India has abandoned the Great Mahatma Gandhi and his principles of non-violence!

Ayesha Sarwari and our dear boy Yasser have to reconcile themselves to the fact that nobody in India fell for Jinnah`s traps and that Jinnah was such a fool that he painted himself into a corner regarding Pakistan. That particular corner is also occupied by the worst of the mullah crowd and they are busy repainting their corner a deeper shade of green as days go by. All Yasser can do is to somehow pretend that the mullahs don`t exist. This leads to his schizophrenic rantings against Gandhi, Nehru, Patel & Co.

Yasser, dear boy, learn to hug your local mullahs despite what such actions might lead to.
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#1070 Posted by puyu on October 10, 2005 3:29:26 am
Beej!
Back to chowk after a long time
If it werent for the no of interacts I wouldnt have bothered to visit the article.
And Im glad I did. Cant thank you enough for this one stop visual resource on the mahatma.
The comments make it an even better treat
I cant appreciate the effort enough.
Thank you!

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#1069 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 12:38:22 am
Albert Einstein : `` Gandhi was the greatest human being ever to walk the face of the earth``

Nelson Mandela , Martin Luther King JNR - both heavily inspired by Gandhi and his philosophy , which they used in their own struggles in their own countries , against apartheid and for equal rights for colored people.

Cuckolded Fool , Potty Mouthed Wife and their friend the Neutred Effete Paki Parsi : `` Gandhi was ugly , racist , evil , misogynist hypocrite , and oh yeah , Ambedkar once called Gandhi a hindu fanatic , and Ambedkar`s word is the word of the Lord. ``

But ultimately .....it doesn`t matter what any of the above luminaries have to say , for there is only one God in today`s world and that is $$$ and the Market is the prophet ....atleast that is what we new age hindooo fanatics worship.

MK Gandhi , along with Albert Einstein and perhaps JFK is one of the greatest brand names in history. That is why Fortune-50 companies with $100 billion turnover like Apple, HP and IBM use him to sell their productS....

Consider this...

No matter what The Cuckolded Fool and his Potty Mouthed Wife say about Gandhi , he shall remain one of the most globally recognisable names - respected and famous , known to every 8-9 year old school kid in Boston as well as in Rome , in Barcelona and in Sydney.

Your Jinnah , no matter how hard you try to push him , is a minor provincial or local leader famous in a little third world country called Pakistan and infamous in the rival country , India. Bascally only known to third world subcontinental types. Jinnah is the Pakistani actress Meera compared to Gandhi`s Marlyn Monroe....

Meanwhile , The Cuckolded Fool , his Potty Mouthed Wife and their Neutred Effete Paki Parsi friend continue behaving like famished ugly street dogs drenched with drainage water and barking at the stars...
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#1068 Posted by harish_hyd on October 9, 2005 11:33:54 pm
#1066 by Mantolives

[This article has nothing to do with Pakistan or its problems... neither Ms Sarwari nor I have claimed this... this is about Gandhi, a World Icon, and his reality. Nothing posted in your pictures all 500 of them disproves any of the points made here... by Behram Atashband, a Pakistani who happens to be a non-Muslim, nor Ms Sarwari.]

Yaar Yasser, now I`m seriously beginning to doubt your mental state. Of the hundreds of Pakis on Chowk, how many revile the Mahatma? Only one, Behram. And based on what research has he claimed this? Going by his posts, it seems none.

So you see, not even Pakis buy your (and your wife`s) BS. OTOH, there are enough Indians who call Gandhi names. But they do this for his eccentricities, impracticalities, and weird ways, not because they doubt his integrity.

[These 500 posts by you have proved that you never had an argument... that you are just another mullah who can`t accept disagreement and who gets violent, like Gandhi got violent, when things don`t go your way.]

Replace Gandhi with Jinnah and this paragraph could aptly describe you. Because the only violence Gandhi committed was on himself, unlike Jinnah, who sought to satisfy his ego by crowning himself the unquestioned monarch of Pakistan over the bodies of millions of Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs and many others.
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#1067 Posted by MantoLives on October 9, 2005 10:15:33 pm

And on another note... out of historical interest ... I haven`t seen all the pictures you have
posted but is there any picture out of the 500 pictures you posted where Gandhi is seen with a person of African origin?

Please point out if there is because that is a claim that G B Singh makes in his now famous book ``Gandhi-behind the mask of divinity``.
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#1109 Posted by Netizen on October 10, 2005 10:42:05 am
Re: # 1067

manto:

i thought you knew better. gandhis satyagraha was for the rights of indians, it didn`t involve africans. was it that the africans came to him and he kicked them out?

anyway, have you seen ``seculsr`` jinnah with africans or addressing hindu mobs?
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#1078 Posted by Netizen on October 10, 2005 6:29:40 am
Re: # 1067

``G B Singh makes in his now famous book ``Gandhi-behind the mask of divinity``.``

hahahaha
famous among whom, the khalistanis in exile?
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#1066 Posted by MantoLives on October 9, 2005 10:10:38 pm

Beej,

Honestly you are one person who is full of it. This article has nothing to do with Pakistan or its problems... neither Ms Sarwari nor I have claimed this... this is about Gandhi, a World Icon, and his reality. Nothing posted in your pictures all 500 of them disproves any of the points made here... by Behram Atashband, a Pakistani who happens to be a non-Muslim, nor Ms Sarwari.

These 500 posts by you have proved that you never had an argument... that you are just another mullah who can`t accept disagreement and who gets violent, like Gandhi got violent, when things don`t go your way.



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#1065 Posted by Beej on October 9, 2005 10:01:47 pm


All interactors:

These are a couple of final janitorial comments on this board.

First the pictures are from the public domain, and a simple link would have been sufficient to direct the seekers to the source.

But we are talking the chowk crowds – not seekers. They need to have the facts brought face-to-face – and they need those pictures right here – not selected ones – but ALL the pictures – staring right into the face!

This crowd is good with words – the strength of a picture is not that it is worth a thousand words (which I honestly do not buy – I know I have a tough time coming up with a thousand of ANYTHING) but that the pictures are much more difficult to weasel out of by using fast talking techniques and lubricious words.

So let the article tell whatever its author wishes to tell – those pictures will be there – these are unable to be countered through selective misuse of available information or with made-up information from the wackiest of sources. The pictures tell a different story – they tell the real story – and perhaps it is because the pictures can not be countered that some of those people appear so frustrated. One needs pictures to counter pictures – and guess what – there just aren’t any!

The picture forces you to look at the truth – straight in the face – and that can be disconcerting for some – if it runs counter to a life-time of conditioning. I understand that!

The question on whether Gandhi was made-up or genuine, woman basher, and all those choice expletives – are not new ones – the Mahatma was very open with his thoughts and always discussed them out loud. He was always trying to better himself and always trying to identify faults in himself to correct – so as to touch the OTHER person – sacrificing himself if necessary – so the OTHER person would feel something inside himself. Impractical idea perhaps, but it seemed to work at the time – at least for a while!

The Mahatma is dead – he does not care any more!. Godse took care of him – had he not, the one sharing the first three letters of that name would surely have by now!

The Mahatma indeed rocked when he was around. The world knows it. It is immaterial what a couple of individuals or any “behind the scene” individuals – for all of whom the objectivity is highly suspect and motives very suspicious – would say on that count

And the Mahatma indeed rocked when he was around. It is well-documented. Not through these pictures alone – but in countless other ways – the most concrete being some of his results! Like with everything else in life when all is said and done – only the results count!

He is no more around and no more rocking!

Can we rock like he did? Somehow, I doubt it.

First of all, we are the type of people that specializes in talking – not rocking!

Secondly, we need to have the desire to accept the truth – a desire that is highly lacking in our culture in general – but especially so on the Pakistani side (sorry Pakistanis, the janitor always calls it like he sees it)! The various manifestations of that problem have been the subject of countless discussions – and in keeping with our cultural traits – are likely to stay exactly that and little else!

So, we will always be looking for a scapegoat! We would rather find a scapegoat than a solution!

Therefore, if we are NOT rocking, we will always find somebody else to blame! The Pakistani crowds have become EXTREMELY well-versed at that game at the national level! The Indian crowds are only recently starting to catch up – trying to make up for the lost time using a regional approach! The trend is not going away any time soon – and certainly not through using underhanded sneaky manoeuvres.

Accordingly, let us leave the merits/demerits of this pathetic article or even this writing pair aside for a minute – if this pair (or perhaps the trio) needs a dead Mahatma to help pull it out of a quandary or its country out of the hole it has willingly climbed down into – let it!

I’m sure the Mahatma would have happily made himself available for that! That’s the type of person he was and that’s why he used to rock!

Sincerely,
Beej.

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#1090 Posted by Behram1 on October 10, 2005 8:48:45 am
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Dear Beej:

It is disconcerting that you chose to show your gibberish thought. In truth telling one has to remain laconic. Being from Bihar, you may not have known that we also have a saying in Persian. We use the term “thookme-shaitan” for the evil seed or Beej. You did an excellent job to prove that you have a “thookhm”, of what? That is what we have to decide. I just hope that this “thookhm” is not shaitaan’s. But again, I am not familiar with your leanings, since I have so far seen just gibberish thoughts, gibberish words, and indeed gibberish deeds.

And I expect that you will work towards Good thoughts, Good Words, and Good Deeds.

No, Beej, it is only your [These are a couple of final janitorial comments on this board.] thoughts that need janitorial work done to it.

If you see my first few queries on this site, I have always been a seeker, and I am still a seeker of truth. Thanks to your behavior I remain a seeker about Gandhi’s greatness, if any.

And that is all the reason that you should just shut up [which I honestly do not buy – I know I have a tough time coming up with a thousand of ANYTHING] Those pictures showed absolutely nothing about Gandhi not hating women, which obviously he did. And that is the discussion at this site.

Beej, what is the real story, you got out from those picture [The pictures tell a different story – they tell the real story] Why don’t you tell us the real story.

You are once again wrong [One needs pictures to counter pictures – and guess what – there just aren’t any!] If this is about validation then look at Mother Theresa’s contribution to humanity, which is widely recognized and we don’t need pictures to validate that. So, why do we need Gandhis?

I agree with you that Gandhi was a work in progress [He was always trying to better himself and always trying to identify faults in himself to correct] And that is what we see a Gandhi with inadequacies when it came to women. That is all what this article is all about. Even you can now accept that. Can you? Would you?

Beej, the dilemma is that you love Gandhi and I respect that. By this very notion, I will refrain from encouraging you to participate further on this subject. Please Beej move on, and may God help your soul.

I will not recognize the rest of your post.

With due respect,

I submit,

Behram B. Atashband

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#1064 Posted by MantoLives on October 9, 2005 9:33:10 pm
Netizen,

Manto miya still doesn`t see despite 600+ posts by Beej with Gandhi in pictures... how any of this proves anything otherwise...

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