Linguistic Imperialism

I think Pakistanis are like Indians..........Just better looking..........So one could say Pakistanis are better looking versions of Indians.........

The above is called killing two birds with one stone.....It makes the Indians happy because we admit we are like them (why that makes Indias happy is something I cannot understand. I don`t know of any other qaum in the world, which wants to admit that Pakistanis are like them. Other than Sub-Sahara Africans.). It also makes the Pakistanis happy, because it draws a line of superiority.

Actually, Pakistanis are better looking, but somewhat of lower intellect, versions of Indians. Pakistani intellect is about equivalent to that of North Indians, i.e. lower than South Indians but higher than Sardarjis........

This is called killing five birds with one stone............It makes the North Indians happy, since we admit we are like them, in intellect. It makes the South Indians happy, since we admit they are superior to us, in intellect (they already know they have no chance in competing in the looks dept. with anyone, much less Pakistanis, so that point does not offend them)

And it makes Sardarjis happy, since the words, ``Sardarji`` and, ``Intellect`` are mentioned in the same sentence............

so even linguistics/languages turn into a india vs. pakistan hindi vs. urdu whatever pissing match?

you bechaarey log slay me. yet again. LOL

my two cents:

a long time ago i read about a language called Hindustani..... which was spoken in pre-partition India by most people....which was a fair mix of urdu and hindi.....not too persianized neither sanskritized, a language of the common folks.

after the partition.....in order to propagate differences... Urdu and Hindi came into the limelight as distinct languages of Pakistan and India respectfully....and why not? no biggie, two different countries, two different official languages rite?

There is a marked distinction between Hindi and Urdu.... just watch the pakistani urdu news vs. indian hindi news......

i personally, i have to strain my brain to understand either one.

BUT there still remains the natural language which is understood by both Indians and Pakistanis and is more or less the same... the language of dramas, films, and songs and family life.... Pakistanis like to call it Urdu, and Indians like to call it Hindi, even though it`s probably Hindustani, the initial common language of the subcontinent.

And yes, I still say Ramzaan and Khuda Hafiz..... are Allah and Khuda different?

Whatever the meaning, I found it a very beautiful musical composition. In fact, both the Indian and Pakistani anthems are very nicely arranged and composed I must say.

Re#161 by hamidm2

[.......... as much as it hurts me to say this, i have to admit that pakis ARE like indians in many many ways ............ some of them in rather disgusting ways: eating with their fingers,]
Been to KFC lately? And how did you see the Amrikkans eating – doggy-style?

[ nose and ear hair,]
When did you stop growing them? Or simply growing?

[ loudness,]
Been to any football games lately?

[ unsatisfactory personal hygiene, etc etc ]
Yeah mian, the cleaning power of that water poured, rubbed and rinsed between the buttocks will sure never beat those tissue papers vigorously stuffed you know where! Keep rubbing the tissue papers hard, and maybe the brown shade will come off! It must … it simply must!

Re: # 158

beej mian,

.......... as much as it hurts me to say this, i have to admit that pakis ARE like indians in many many ways ............ some of them in rather disgusting ways: eating with their fingers, nose and ear hair, loudness, unsatisfactory personal hygiene, etc etc ........... it is a long list, but hindi is still nothing like urdu .............

Re: # 156

Oh yeah, Aajtak.... I have seen the channel that when I was in India .... it`s awful....

Last year, my cable provider gave me 15 days free trial of ZeeTV, another channel peddling desi garbage .... I got rid of it after 2 days......

Dear Dharma,

Any idea how many Indians know Panini, forget about Sanskrit???

Re#151 Hamidm2

[.......... so the next time someone says ``Hindi is like Urdu``, i am going to slap them silly! .............]

Hamidm Mian, don’t just stop there!

The next time –

Someone says Pakistanis are like Indians – slap them hard!
Someone says Pakistanis have two ears, like the Indians – slap them hard!
Someone says Pakistanis have two eyes, like the Indians – slap them hard!
Someone says Pakistanis have a nose, like the Indians – slap them hard!
Someone says Pakistanis have a mouth, like the Indians – slap them hard!
Someone says Pakistanis have a brain, like the Indians – slap them the hardest!

Sincerely,
Beej.

jeez - you guys are a bunch of lawyers !

..... it was aaj tak ............ www.aajtak.com

.......... and that is my final answer !

Re: # 155

..... sorry, i think it was ``aajtuk`` instead of ``aajtv``, or something like that - they took it away after a few days of free preview ........ for a couple of days i also had this indian punjabi channel which was kind of fun because i understood 95% - the other 5% was hindi/sanskrit gibberish .........

Re: # 153

aaj tv is a paki channel? WTF is hamidm cribbing about then?....... Hamdm Mian - you got to cut back on whatever country liqor you are drinking man?... this is hilarious :)

hamid-m:

``.......... so the next time someone says ``hindi is like urdu``, i am going to slap them silly ! .............``


I am one of those who says that. [Gaal (cheek) haazir hai!]


Actually you can think of Hindi-Urdu as a continuum, with Sanskritised Hindi (Hindi Samachar) at the one end and Persianise-Arabised Urdu at the other. In between is the language spoken/understood by the vast majority of Pakistanis and North Indians which you call Urdu in Pakistan and Hindi in India. This is the language of Bollywood.

Re: # 151


LOL

aaj tv is a Pakistani TV channel..


www.aaj.tv

hamid
//...hindi news came along......but i couldn`t understand a word...///

Nobody does..... so don`t worry..... nobody understands the language they use in hindi ``news`` and nobody cares.... the language people speak is basically ``hinglish`` ...... or ``tamilish`` ........ or ``bengalish`` .... everything is getting anglicized anyway - and for good...

........... what the heck was that !!!!!

.... a couple of days ago as i was flipping through the channels i found out that i had access to some indian channel caled ``aajtv`` ......... normally, i never read the indian press or watch indian movies or eat sambar or do anything that would provide comfort to the enemy, but i was curious and decided to watch it for a few minutes ......... when i tuned in there was some sort of commercial for biscuits with the usual dancing and prancing and sing-alongs which i was able to understand .............. but then the hindi news came along and i was shocked ......... whoa, what the heck is that gibberish !.......... i strained my ears and turned up the volume but i couldn`t understand a word .... every now and then i would catch a familiar urdu word, but they were mainly conjugations, participles and the other uselss words that are used to string stuff together - the rest of it was all greek garbage .........

.......... so the next time someone says ``hindi is like urdu``, i am going to slap them silly ! .............