Linguistic Imperialism

261,

You`ve made all Pakis mad by declining your affinity with your ARAB braathers.....now wait for the fatwa.......

Re: # 259

Kauray,

My village was established about a 100 years ago. We don`t share any genetic trait with the locals. We are persians/turks/european. You must be wondering....... Europeans in punjab? Yep, stop by and take a look :)))

haideri

Babar drank like a fish and the habit may have finally killed him. Is it true that Hamidimdim is aping his hero?

Haideri,

I knew it. Of all the place in PakiSatan, NANKANA SB. I heard quite a few folks there claim SIKH ancestory.....Thus the obvious......

Re: # 240

hamidm:


``by the way do you know what your proud turkic ancestor, babar, said about india and indians ? .......... check out the babarnama ``

no wonder the nationalists razed his masjid to ground.

BTW, do you know what a proud indian said about babur in Netizen-nama?

Re: # 252
//...“Their men have no valour, their women no honour, their flowers no perfume.” ...///

Man - that was really mean..... No wonder Hamidm Mian remembers it :))

Babur suffered from the same affliction as billion of his berthen - past, present and future. Plate Pissing. It was an inherent trait at that time too.

He was like millions who line the consulate of the ``Great Satan``! or sell honor, property to get into belly of the great Satan and its ugly inhabitants.

Babar was homesick and didnt take to Indian weather well. Central asia also was more advanced in his day than india, i.e. had better irrigation, simple mechanical engineering, schools, hospitals, etc.

he did praise Rajput bravery though he didnt have a high opinion of their fighting skill.

Re: # 253

You are right Salim Sahib

And Maulana Moudoodi said bad things about US and is buried here?

Re: # 240 hamid and #250 mohar
{``do you know what your proud turkic ancestor, babar, said about india and indians ?..``}

Hamid Man and Mohar Bhai,
Yes, Babar said some very mean things about India and Indians in Tuzk-e-Babari, his memoirs. He didn`t like the climate, thought the people were not civilized, and complained about their looks, use of diya, and so forth. Therefore, Babar is buried in Kabul (as he wished) and Akbar is buried in Sikandriya, UP, India. Humayun is in Delhi and Shah Jahan is in Agra, while Jahangir is in Lahore, and lastly Aurangzeb is in Aurangabad.

We all get what we deserve. Babar got Kabul, the place he loved. :) They both deserve each other.

hamidm2 #240, mohar11 #250

Among other things, he said of the denizens of Hindustan: “Their men have no valour, their women no honour, their flowers no perfume.”

#242, {````Turkic peoples are Northern and Central Eurasian peoples who speak languages belonging to the Turkic family, and who, in varying degrees, share certain ethnic, cultural and historical traits.``}

Hamidm man,
So, if you want to call Babar my ``turkic`` ancestor I can`t stop you, but I refute the charge. Even though Finnish and Magyar may be considered `turkic`` languages, we don`t call Finns and Hungarians ``turkic.`` The language group is better known as Ural-Altai. Regardless of how you wish to twist the facts, Tamerlane, Babar, and Genghis Khan were Mongols. If you want to use linguistic affiliations then Khomeini was ``Sanskritic.`` While this may be accurate in a remote, linguistic manner, wouldn`t Irani or Persian be more appropriate?

Your lesson is history will be followed by a quick course in comprehension. :)


hamidm2 #240,
{`salim mian,

........... i have decided to take you under my wing``}

I never thought that you were an Ulloo ka Patha. You said wing, I didn`t. :)

Re: # 240 hamid
//....do you know what your proud turkic ancestor, babar, said about india and indians ?....//

Something bad, I am sure :).... Gosh, you guys keep track of everything anybody has ever said against Indians anytime in history - inlcuding what somebody said about the ``Native Indians`` who are not even indians .... Talk about Indo-Phobia.....

Re: # 246

Pa Kauray,

If you ever get a chance to visit Nankana Sahib, shoot me an email. I will show you where those guys are. One example is my village.

regards,

haideri

Re: # 235

ranjit:

How old are you? Mentally! You really think that there was a Pakistan before 1947.

Or are you referring to those who presently live in the area called Pakistan? And, you want information of the last 1000 years. Well, ranjit, I am not a historian by any stretch of the imagination. You will have to request this from someone else of your caliber.

It seems to me that you have a twisted logic. Muslim invaders were just that invaders. And they won India. All of it. According to your theory, everyone who lost were ``buzdill.`` BTW who were these ``buzdills`` who lost India? Hindus. Correct?!

So now using your twisted logic you could argue that ``buzdills`` became muslims, and bahadur jawan Hindus maintained their identity and continue till this day. Agreed.

Respectfully submitted,

Why are Sikhs the most successful and prosperous group everywhere - despite being a minority and striving against odds????

If it is the lower intelect, then maybe everyone should have lower intellect!