Zeno October 20, 2005
#246 Posted by kaurasach on October 24, 2005 7:40:21 am
Where are the better looking Pakis hiding?????
The chooras in our village are smarter looking and better fed compared to all the Pakis I`ve seen in US ( all upper caste Syeeds, Khans, etc.) They were puny compared to Sikhs.
As already mentioned, Northern Indians are handsome and fair skinned.... I`ve seen women in Himachal that can be easily mistaken for Europeans. I`ve met Bhapans from Kullu area that looked like East European models.
The chooras in our village are smarter looking and better fed compared to all the Pakis I`ve seen in US ( all upper caste Syeeds, Khans, etc.) They were puny compared to Sikhs.
As already mentioned, Northern Indians are handsome and fair skinned.... I`ve seen women in Himachal that can be easily mistaken for Europeans. I`ve met Bhapans from Kullu area that looked like East European models.
#245 Posted by kaurasach on October 24, 2005 7:34:49 am
Haideri,
You can hear snippets of Punjabi (India, oops Khalistan ;-)) ) rythms in Alphabet channel (NBC, ABC, CBS) sticoms this season. Indian dance moves and choreography is copied by Hollywood pop stars.
You can hear snippets of Punjabi (India, oops Khalistan ;-)) ) rythms in Alphabet channel (NBC, ABC, CBS) sticoms this season. Indian dance moves and choreography is copied by Hollywood pop stars.
#244 Posted by hamidm2 on October 24, 2005 7:24:17 am
salim mian,
........... i have decided to take you under my wing and guide you as you grow out of this rather difficult period .......... here is your first reading assignment :
How to Win Friends & Influence People - Dale Carnegie
............ trust me, you will thank me when you grow up ...........
........... i have decided to take you under my wing and guide you as you grow out of this rather difficult period .......... here is your first reading assignment :
How to Win Friends & Influence People - Dale Carnegie
............ trust me, you will thank me when you grow up ...........
#243 Posted by Behram1 on October 24, 2005 7:19:44 am
Re: # 233
Netizen and Amansandhu:
I am sorry that inadvertently this issue got started. I have no malice against Indians of any sort ugly or good looking. It is my perssonal opinion that remains with me and that does not affect my decision whatsoever. So let us get real about it.
There might be some behavior of Indians or Pakistanis that I personally do not like. But that is it.
I did not realize that just because I am of a Zoroastrian faith I have to succomb to the old history that Hindus saved the Zoroastrians. Ranjit (#235) has pointed that out to me.
[Behram, you should change your name to Besharam. You are a Parsi. Parsis were given refuge by hindus when the muslims kicked you out of Iran. Your ancestors would have perished and you would have vanished as a race, were it not for us hindus in India. And now you return that favor by siding with muslims and Pakistanis and calling us dark and ugly? Dont you have any sense of shame? Just goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished!!]
I did not know that there was Pakistan before 1947.
And, besides Netizen, it is not actually the color of their skin that most Indians are worried about. It is their inferiority complex. Look at any personal advertisement and you would notice that. When a new born is born to any Indian this is the first expression that I have heard. Why?
I have never for one moment thought about the color of my skin when I deal with the goras.
Again, Netizen, I must ask for your forgiveness, if somehow you did not like my opinion about Gandhi. You have to live with that.
Thank you for being kind and considerate, and submitting your posts respectfully,
Netizen and Amansandhu:
I am sorry that inadvertently this issue got started. I have no malice against Indians of any sort ugly or good looking. It is my perssonal opinion that remains with me and that does not affect my decision whatsoever. So let us get real about it.
There might be some behavior of Indians or Pakistanis that I personally do not like. But that is it.
I did not realize that just because I am of a Zoroastrian faith I have to succomb to the old history that Hindus saved the Zoroastrians. Ranjit (#235) has pointed that out to me.
[Behram, you should change your name to Besharam. You are a Parsi. Parsis were given refuge by hindus when the muslims kicked you out of Iran. Your ancestors would have perished and you would have vanished as a race, were it not for us hindus in India. And now you return that favor by siding with muslims and Pakistanis and calling us dark and ugly? Dont you have any sense of shame? Just goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished!!]
I did not know that there was Pakistan before 1947.
And, besides Netizen, it is not actually the color of their skin that most Indians are worried about. It is their inferiority complex. Look at any personal advertisement and you would notice that. When a new born is born to any Indian this is the first expression that I have heard. Why?
I have never for one moment thought about the color of my skin when I deal with the goras.
Again, Netizen, I must ask for your forgiveness, if somehow you did not like my opinion about Gandhi. You have to live with that.
Thank you for being kind and considerate, and submitting your posts respectfully,
#242 Posted by hamidm2 on October 24, 2005 7:19:34 am
salim mian,
..... i guess, in your haste to score points you didn`t notice that i called babar your ``proud turkic ancestor`` ........... not ``turkish`` ...........Your next history lesson is on Friday - don`t be late!
``Turkic peoples are Northern and Central Eurasian peoples who speak languages belonging to the Turkic family, and who, in varying degrees, share certain ethnic, cultural and historical traits.``
..... i guess, in your haste to score points you didn`t notice that i called babar your ``proud turkic ancestor`` ........... not ``turkish`` ...........Your next history lesson is on Friday - don`t be late!
``Turkic peoples are Northern and Central Eurasian peoples who speak languages belonging to the Turkic family, and who, in varying degrees, share certain ethnic, cultural and historical traits.``
#241 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on October 24, 2005 6:59:15 am
hamidm (do number walley),
Hamid Sahib,
Crush is the right word, the context is wrong. I just can`t stand hypocrisy and she represents that vice to the fullest.
Babar was no Turk. In fact, if you know Mughal history, he was a direct descendant of Tamerlane, who decimated the Ottoman Turks and carried off their Sultan in a cage, after raping his wife in front of him. Is it any wonder that historians call them Mughals?
Your next history lesson is on Friday - don`t be late. I should start charging you for history lessons and your cohort for geography lessons. :)
Hamid Sahib,
Crush is the right word, the context is wrong. I just can`t stand hypocrisy and she represents that vice to the fullest.
Babar was no Turk. In fact, if you know Mughal history, he was a direct descendant of Tamerlane, who decimated the Ottoman Turks and carried off their Sultan in a cage, after raping his wife in front of him. Is it any wonder that historians call them Mughals?
Your next history lesson is on Friday - don`t be late. I should start charging you for history lessons and your cohort for geography lessons. :)
#240 Posted by hamidm2 on October 24, 2005 6:38:12 am
salim,
........... i think you have a crush on scout - all this bluster does nothing to hide your true feelings !............ why don`t you come clean and admit it - if she rejects you it is not the end of the world..........
........... by the way do you know what your proud turkic ancestor, babar, said about india and indians ? .......... check out the babarnama
........... i think you have a crush on scout - all this bluster does nothing to hide your true feelings !............ why don`t you come clean and admit it - if she rejects you it is not the end of the world..........
........... by the way do you know what your proud turkic ancestor, babar, said about india and indians ? .......... check out the babarnama
#239 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on October 24, 2005 6:26:50 am
#238, Scout,
The best thing to do is to ignore you and your kind. Good bye. :)
The best thing to do is to ignore you and your kind. Good bye. :)
#238 Posted by scout on October 24, 2005 5:03:35 am
Re: # 220
keep going Salim, keep exposing your frustrations. this is good, people on the front page are seeing you for who you are.
the only person gloating over the deaths of innocent people was Ranger and you are doing the same things, using the deaths of thousands to score points with an interactor who exposed you for who you are.
if you have any ghairat left in you, you will apologize to all the women you have harrassed on chowk, and the ones you`ve driven away with your gali galoch.
keep going Salim, keep exposing your frustrations. this is good, people on the front page are seeing you for who you are.
the only person gloating over the deaths of innocent people was Ranger and you are doing the same things, using the deaths of thousands to score points with an interactor who exposed you for who you are.
if you have any ghairat left in you, you will apologize to all the women you have harrassed on chowk, and the ones you`ve driven away with your gali galoch.
#237 Posted by muqaddam on October 24, 2005 1:31:58 am
#224
I remember even in the early seventies, the commentator narrating the yom-e-Pakistan military parade used words like tan man dhan qualifying the services renederd by the Pakistani soldier. Similarly just some time back I heard a bibi form Punjab(West) praising somebody as a bhala manas. Words like dukh, maa mamata all Sanskrit based are in common use in spoken langauage in Pakistan. So, what is the big fuss about?
I remember even in the early seventies, the commentator narrating the yom-e-Pakistan military parade used words like tan man dhan qualifying the services renederd by the Pakistani soldier. Similarly just some time back I heard a bibi form Punjab(West) praising somebody as a bhala manas. Words like dukh, maa mamata all Sanskrit based are in common use in spoken langauage in Pakistan. So, what is the big fuss about?
#236 Posted by dharma on October 23, 2005 10:10:59 pm
Re: # 235
ranit #235
I always wondered about that. Is it that we are not taught about resistance in pakistan area to external invaders and british or they are just too meek? Even the chowkies never mentioned about any freedom fighters or of any people who fought the muslim invaders.
I think they are just very meeek people. The meekness shows in their acceptance of any tom, dick and harry general that wants to rule pakistan. It also shows in how they give up their freedom to any mullah who wants to throw the book at them. Try doing that to indians, throwing gita or ramayan at them. They had thrown the sankaracharya in jail without bail recently.
ranit #235
I always wondered about that. Is it that we are not taught about resistance in pakistan area to external invaders and british or they are just too meek? Even the chowkies never mentioned about any freedom fighters or of any people who fought the muslim invaders.
I think they are just very meeek people. The meekness shows in their acceptance of any tom, dick and harry general that wants to rule pakistan. It also shows in how they give up their freedom to any mullah who wants to throw the book at them. Try doing that to indians, throwing gita or ramayan at them. They had thrown the sankaracharya in jail without bail recently.
#235 Posted by Ranjit on October 23, 2005 9:26:41 pm
Behram, you should change your name to Besharam. You are a Parsi. Parsis were given refuge by hindus when the muslims kicked you out of Iran. Your ancestors would have perished and you would have vanished as a race, were it not for us hindus in India. And now you return that favor by siding with muslims and Pakistanis and calling us dark and ugly? Dont you have any sense of shame? Just goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished!!
I dont care about looks but let us compare sense of honor and bravery. Name me one Pakistani personality in the past 1000 years who fought for his people, who fought against external invaders, who stood up for his way of life or raised his voice against tyranny. It is a shame!! The only admirable Pakistani I can think of is Raja Porus who fought against Alexander. Since then, no Pakistani has every shown any resistance to any invaders. You can argue that being muslims, they did not want to fight against the Mughals. All right, but what about the British? Which Pakistani person fought against the British during the entire British rule? Maybe one, Ghaffar Khan who has been disowned by Pakistanis. Every other Pakistani person collaborated with the Brits. Even Pakistan`s founder Jinnah was from outside Pakistan.
Therefore, my thesis holds that Pakistanis are a bunch of beghairat cowards. Whenever they face any adversary, they roll over and offer their servitude. Just look at how Musharraf behaves in front of Bush like a lap dog. The Iranians, the Afghans and the Indians all deal with Bush from a position of strength. The Pakistanis just need one phone call from Colin Powell and they are willing to sell their mothers and daughters (as quoted explicitly by an US official). I am sure when Ghaznavi and Ghauri showed up, the Pakistanis showed exactly the same Musharraf type mindset by accepting servitude, converting to Islam and offering their women in order to get their lives spared.
#234 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on October 23, 2005 7:11:15 pm
#233, {``I am very sure if this feeling of ``superiority`` is taken from them they will start comparing the length of you know what ;) ``}
Netizen,
Then they will run into Semites who will once and for all prove to them that they are not descended directly from the Arab conquerors. :)
That`s when they will claim to be Africans.
Netizen,
Then they will run into Semites who will once and for all prove to them that they are not descended directly from the Arab conquerors. :)
That`s when they will claim to be Africans.
#233 Posted by Netizen on October 23, 2005 6:59:50 pm
Re: # 231
As a kid growing up in cosmopolitan mumbai, i witnessed the north indians doing the same to south indians. But that was when we were in 6-8 grade. i guess some pakistanis have still have not grown up beyond that stage.
there are a few which will time and again take satisfaction over the fact that they are very ``fair-skinned`` that an indian. i really wonder what they feel in front of a gora. by the same yardstick maybe they think that they are inferior to them.
i don`t think such posts even deserve a reply, its just a refuge of the intellectually (by chowk standards) bankrupt. i just pity them as thats what is left for them to be happy or feel superior. time and again i think about replying sarcastically but don`t feel to do.
I am very sure if this feeling of ``superiority`` is taken from them they will start comparing the length of you know what ;)
As a kid growing up in cosmopolitan mumbai, i witnessed the north indians doing the same to south indians. But that was when we were in 6-8 grade. i guess some pakistanis have still have not grown up beyond that stage.
there are a few which will time and again take satisfaction over the fact that they are very ``fair-skinned`` that an indian. i really wonder what they feel in front of a gora. by the same yardstick maybe they think that they are inferior to them.
i don`t think such posts even deserve a reply, its just a refuge of the intellectually (by chowk standards) bankrupt. i just pity them as thats what is left for them to be happy or feel superior. time and again i think about replying sarcastically but don`t feel to do.
I am very sure if this feeling of ``superiority`` is taken from them they will start comparing the length of you know what ;)
#232 Posted by amansandhu on October 23, 2005 6:47:06 pm
#Netizen,
You are right, Behram started it.
You are right, Behram started it.
#231 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on October 23, 2005 6:28:30 pm
Netizen, #229 {``Moreover the ``good-looking`` pakis and ``ugly`` indians tug-of-war was started...``}
Netizen,
I have been following with some dismay and some laughter this assertion by Pakis that they are fairer-skinned and better looking than Indians. It is so utterly stupid, so logically ridiculous that I have tried to either ignore the boasting or just make further jokes to ridicule the basic assertion. Both Pakis and Indians are descended from the esentially same people. Some mixture here and there does not alter the basic similarity. Yes, I have noticed Atif and Romair and some others proclaim the superiority of Paki genes - especially the light-skinned aspects of the Indian subcontinent the farther west and north one moves. Strange and tragic, that the earthquakes happened in the west and the north and many of the victims were the fairest skinned of all Pakis and Indians. BaRa bol kabhi nahiN bolna chahiye - but maybe that is a Hindu proverb and not a Muslim one.
Now watch all the Pakis jump on me for saying such a thing, thus proving another proverb.
Dhobhi se bas na chala to gadhey key kaan muRoR liye. :)
While I like gadhas because they are such hardworking and unappreciated animals, I do not want any gadha jokes as a result.
Netizen,
I have been following with some dismay and some laughter this assertion by Pakis that they are fairer-skinned and better looking than Indians. It is so utterly stupid, so logically ridiculous that I have tried to either ignore the boasting or just make further jokes to ridicule the basic assertion. Both Pakis and Indians are descended from the esentially same people. Some mixture here and there does not alter the basic similarity. Yes, I have noticed Atif and Romair and some others proclaim the superiority of Paki genes - especially the light-skinned aspects of the Indian subcontinent the farther west and north one moves. Strange and tragic, that the earthquakes happened in the west and the north and many of the victims were the fairest skinned of all Pakis and Indians. BaRa bol kabhi nahiN bolna chahiye - but maybe that is a Hindu proverb and not a Muslim one.
Now watch all the Pakis jump on me for saying such a thing, thus proving another proverb.
Dhobhi se bas na chala to gadhey key kaan muRoR liye. :)
While I like gadhas because they are such hardworking and unappreciated animals, I do not want any gadha jokes as a result.
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