Chowk Staff October 8, 2005
#67 Posted by KaalChakra on October 10, 2005 7:23:47 am
rsridhar
Please don`t get stuck on those kinds of things. Also, the talk of messages etc insults your own considerable intelligence.
(Governments don`t need help. People do. That can be provided through third parties. The nature couldn`t care less whether an Indian is killed or Pakistani, a Hindu or a Muslim)
Please don`t get stuck on those kinds of things. Also, the talk of messages etc insults your own considerable intelligence.
(Governments don`t need help. People do. That can be provided through third parties. The nature couldn`t care less whether an Indian is killed or Pakistani, a Hindu or a Muslim)
#66 Posted by rsridhar on October 10, 2005 6:01:35 am
re: Just nature`s fury or is there a message here?
In Tsunami, while thousands died, worst affected were from militant prone areas. Militancy in the island of Banda Aceh and Srilanka`s North was hard hit.
In this earthquake, POK is hard hit, with Muzaffarabad the capital of POK razed to the ground. The militant organization Lashkar-e-toiba and its affilitated fronts have been wiped out in the area. It is now known that the organization was gearing up for more attacks on Indian Kashmir after having received the green signal from Mushy the rat.
Is this all just a coincidence or is there a message here?
Sridhar
In Tsunami, while thousands died, worst affected were from militant prone areas. Militancy in the island of Banda Aceh and Srilanka`s North was hard hit.
In this earthquake, POK is hard hit, with Muzaffarabad the capital of POK razed to the ground. The militant organization Lashkar-e-toiba and its affilitated fronts have been wiped out in the area. It is now known that the organization was gearing up for more attacks on Indian Kashmir after having received the green signal from Mushy the rat.
Is this all just a coincidence or is there a message here?
Sridhar
#65 Posted by rsridhar on October 10, 2005 5:57:33 am
re: Pak refuses joint relief efforts with India
This is from TOI.
http://www.sulekha.com/news/nhc.aspx?cid=436135
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(PTI[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2005 05:36:02 PM ]
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan today ruled out joint relief operations with India in quake-hit Kashmir region and instead made a counter offer to help New Delhi in its efforts to deal with the crisis.
``There is no possibility of any joint relief operations on both sides of the LoC. There is no population on the LoC,`` newly-appointed Pakistan Foreign Office spokesperson Tasleen Aslam told reporters here.
The Pakistan army is operating in villages and towns in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) including far-flung areas but not on the LoC, she said.
``We remain willing to help Indians if we are needed for any kind of assistance like the Indians offered us any kind of assistance``, she said.)
So, even in times of great need, all Paki ruler cares for is politics and oneupmanship.
Shame on Mushy.
Sridhar
This is from TOI.
http://www.sulekha.com/news/nhc.aspx?cid=436135
Pak refuses joint relief operationsAdd to Clippings
(PTI[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2005 05:36:02 PM ]
Sign into earnIndiatimes points
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan today ruled out joint relief operations with India in quake-hit Kashmir region and instead made a counter offer to help New Delhi in its efforts to deal with the crisis.
``There is no possibility of any joint relief operations on both sides of the LoC. There is no population on the LoC,`` newly-appointed Pakistan Foreign Office spokesperson Tasleen Aslam told reporters here.
The Pakistan army is operating in villages and towns in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) including far-flung areas but not on the LoC, she said.
``We remain willing to help Indians if we are needed for any kind of assistance like the Indians offered us any kind of assistance``, she said.)
So, even in times of great need, all Paki ruler cares for is politics and oneupmanship.
Shame on Mushy.
Sridhar
#64 Posted by Cadbury on October 10, 2005 5:15:34 am
For all those intrested in donating in UAE, you can bring your donations to Pakistan Association Office Dubai or Pakistan Counslate in Dubai or Pakistan Embassy in Abu Dhabi. Both places are receiving commodity items as well as monetary donations. Please extend your help and resources in anything you can do for the relief efforts.
#63 Posted by sheelajaywant on October 10, 2005 4:00:05 am
Oh no, not another calamity is what we all thought when we heard the news (we were out of urban limits). A government officer who handled a part of the tsunami rehab program in south India said NGOs and kind folk helped with shelter, food, and clothes, but no one came to clear the debris, cremate the dead, clear the decaying garbage. For that, only the government agencies were responsible. I feel sorry more for the living who may have lost all they had. Rehabilitation is hard. As for those who perished, may their souls rest in peace.
#61 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 1:18:55 am
And in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK) , also called as `Azad Kashmir` by some ,
``The Kashmir Earthquake`` is not a story that can be told in numbers. Twenty thousand dead? What does it mean?
Perhaps it would make sense to ask the living. But they do not seem to be interested.
The only thing that brings fire to their eyes is a mention of the government.
``The bastards want us to be a part of Pakistan,`` a young man spits out the words as if he had never intended them to taste his tongue.
``The Kashmir Earthquake`` is not a story that can be told in numbers. Twenty thousand dead? What does it mean?
Perhaps it would make sense to ask the living. But they do not seem to be interested.
The only thing that brings fire to their eyes is a mention of the government.
``The bastards want us to be a part of Pakistan,`` a young man spits out the words as if he had never intended them to taste his tongue.
#60 Posted by cipram on October 10, 2005 1:16:17 am
my cousin died in Muzaaffarabad.she was principal of the school.she used to go with other staff members in vagon .The moment they were in side the school ,building collapsed.the place is 16 miles away from capital no acces as yet.may be some miracle happen and some of them would be saved.Rescue work is started yesterday and that too in the capital.
there is no place even for burial.Allah bless them.
ameen.
there is no place even for burial.Allah bless them.
ameen.
#59 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 1:03:30 am
And in the meanwhile , quake or no quake , its business as usual >>
8 Islamic terrorists among 16 killed in quake-hit J&K
Srinagar, October 9
Sixteen persons, including eight Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) infiltrators and a self-styled district commander of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, were killed in Jammu and Kashmir since last evening, an official spokesman said today.
Troops foiled an infiltration bid when they gunned down eight LeT infiltrators near the Line of Control (LoC) at Jamia Galli Gulmarg this morning, the spokesman said, adding a soldier was also killed while two others were injured in the gun-battle.
Security forces killed another LeT militant in an encounter at Dangiwacha in the north Kashmir district of Baramula last night. An AK rifle, four magazines, four hand grenades and 80 rounds were seized from the slain ultra.
Three militants, including a self-styled district commander of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, were gunned down by the security forces during a search operation late last night at Sayan village under the Kokernag police station.
An AK rifle, five magazines, two pistols, one hand grenade, 108 rounds were seized from the slain ultra.
Two charred bodies of militants along with two AK rifles, five magazines and 19 rounds were recovered from the debris of the Janwari Complex at Sopore where security forces and ultras were locked in a gunfight on Friday, the spokesman said.
Militants kidnapped and later killed Mohammad Yousuf at Bansal Mahore in the Udhampur district last night, he said. — UNI
8 Islamic terrorists among 16 killed in quake-hit J&K
Srinagar, October 9
Sixteen persons, including eight Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) infiltrators and a self-styled district commander of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, were killed in Jammu and Kashmir since last evening, an official spokesman said today.
Troops foiled an infiltration bid when they gunned down eight LeT infiltrators near the Line of Control (LoC) at Jamia Galli Gulmarg this morning, the spokesman said, adding a soldier was also killed while two others were injured in the gun-battle.
Security forces killed another LeT militant in an encounter at Dangiwacha in the north Kashmir district of Baramula last night. An AK rifle, four magazines, four hand grenades and 80 rounds were seized from the slain ultra.
Three militants, including a self-styled district commander of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, were gunned down by the security forces during a search operation late last night at Sayan village under the Kokernag police station.
An AK rifle, five magazines, two pistols, one hand grenade, 108 rounds were seized from the slain ultra.
Two charred bodies of militants along with two AK rifles, five magazines and 19 rounds were recovered from the debris of the Janwari Complex at Sopore where security forces and ultras were locked in a gunfight on Friday, the spokesman said.
Militants kidnapped and later killed Mohammad Yousuf at Bansal Mahore in the Udhampur district last night, he said. — UNI
#58 Posted by chowkstaff on October 10, 2005 12:46:03 am
DONATIONS FOR EARTHQUAKE VICTIMS
AMAL is trying to link up with two NGOs, Islamic Relief and Sungi working in Azad Jammu Kashmir and Abbotabad. The drop of point for donations is the AMAL office located at #7, St.62, G-6/4, Islamabad. Incase of questions you can contact
Nighat Rizvi on 0300 5003175
Imran Rizvi on 0300 8551208 and
Mehrunnisa Yusuf on 0300 5002657
Please donate the following items
· Clothes, shoes
· Dry food items such as lentils, sugar, milk, water etc
· Basic medicines and medical supplies
· Blankets and pillows
· Tents
· NO PERISHABLE ITEMS and NO MONETARY CONTRIBUTIONS.
AMAL is trying to link up with two NGOs, Islamic Relief and Sungi working in Azad Jammu Kashmir and Abbotabad. The drop of point for donations is the AMAL office located at #7, St.62, G-6/4, Islamabad. Incase of questions you can contact
Nighat Rizvi on 0300 5003175
Imran Rizvi on 0300 8551208 and
Mehrunnisa Yusuf on 0300 5002657
Please donate the following items
· Clothes, shoes
· Dry food items such as lentils, sugar, milk, water etc
· Basic medicines and medical supplies
· Blankets and pillows
· Tents
· NO PERISHABLE ITEMS and NO MONETARY CONTRIBUTIONS.
#57 Posted by ana on October 9, 2005 10:25:02 pm
can anyone living in california (SF, silicon valley, LA) point me in the direction of donation receivers here? i know the mercury news listed the red cross but anything else where the money will directly go to the affected. some of the websites listed have not been working for me.
thanks in advance,
ana
thanks in advance,
ana
#56 Posted by supersize on October 9, 2005 9:35:39 pm
In all the commotion, arrives our very own JI man, Qazi Hussain Ahmed, and insists that Pakistan should reject US and UK aid. *shakes head*
#55 Posted by r.a.janjua on October 9, 2005 9:04:19 pm
way too depressing - spent quite a few years up in those beautiful mountains amongst some very fine people - the names are so familiar - ghari habib ullah - that used to be the resting place on our drive to muzzafarabad.
they say whole villages have fallen into the neelum (kishanganga) river.
they say whole villages have fallen into the neelum (kishanganga) river.
#54 Posted by KaalChakra on October 9, 2005 8:11:24 pm
It is time for Pakistanis to do whatever they can to reduce the pain of the victims, and for outsiders to help in anyway they can. A group of Indians is getting together tomorrow to coordinate a fund-collection drive. Hopefully we will be able to make some small contributions to both India and Pakistan.
#53 Posted by Ras on October 9, 2005 7:21:00 pm
Forget about the Indo-Pak boxing match for the moment.
Pakistanis & Kashmiris need help immediately.
This one is a horrific calamity.
Let us do our best from here in America & Canada.
PLEASE HELP!
Ras
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