Chowk Staff October 8, 2005
#65 Posted by rsridhar on October 10, 2005 5:57:33 am
re: Pak refuses joint relief efforts with India
This is from TOI.
http://www.sulekha.com/news/nhc.aspx?cid=436135
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(PTI[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2005 05:36:02 PM ]
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan today ruled out joint relief operations with India in quake-hit Kashmir region and instead made a counter offer to help New Delhi in its efforts to deal with the crisis.
``There is no possibility of any joint relief operations on both sides of the LoC. There is no population on the LoC,`` newly-appointed Pakistan Foreign Office spokesperson Tasleen Aslam told reporters here.
The Pakistan army is operating in villages and towns in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) including far-flung areas but not on the LoC, she said.
``We remain willing to help Indians if we are needed for any kind of assistance like the Indians offered us any kind of assistance``, she said.)
So, even in times of great need, all Paki ruler cares for is politics and oneupmanship.
Shame on Mushy.
Sridhar
This is from TOI.
http://www.sulekha.com/news/nhc.aspx?cid=436135
Pak refuses joint relief operationsAdd to Clippings
(PTI[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2005 05:36:02 PM ]
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan today ruled out joint relief operations with India in quake-hit Kashmir region and instead made a counter offer to help New Delhi in its efforts to deal with the crisis.
``There is no possibility of any joint relief operations on both sides of the LoC. There is no population on the LoC,`` newly-appointed Pakistan Foreign Office spokesperson Tasleen Aslam told reporters here.
The Pakistan army is operating in villages and towns in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) including far-flung areas but not on the LoC, she said.
``We remain willing to help Indians if we are needed for any kind of assistance like the Indians offered us any kind of assistance``, she said.)
So, even in times of great need, all Paki ruler cares for is politics and oneupmanship.
Shame on Mushy.
Sridhar
#66 Posted by rsridhar on October 10, 2005 6:01:35 am
re: Just nature`s fury or is there a message here?
In Tsunami, while thousands died, worst affected were from militant prone areas. Militancy in the island of Banda Aceh and Srilanka`s North was hard hit.
In this earthquake, POK is hard hit, with Muzaffarabad the capital of POK razed to the ground. The militant organization Lashkar-e-toiba and its affilitated fronts have been wiped out in the area. It is now known that the organization was gearing up for more attacks on Indian Kashmir after having received the green signal from Mushy the rat.
Is this all just a coincidence or is there a message here?
Sridhar
In Tsunami, while thousands died, worst affected were from militant prone areas. Militancy in the island of Banda Aceh and Srilanka`s North was hard hit.
In this earthquake, POK is hard hit, with Muzaffarabad the capital of POK razed to the ground. The militant organization Lashkar-e-toiba and its affilitated fronts have been wiped out in the area. It is now known that the organization was gearing up for more attacks on Indian Kashmir after having received the green signal from Mushy the rat.
Is this all just a coincidence or is there a message here?
Sridhar
#67 Posted by KaalChakra on October 10, 2005 7:23:47 am
rsridhar
Please don`t get stuck on those kinds of things. Also, the talk of messages etc insults your own considerable intelligence.
(Governments don`t need help. People do. That can be provided through third parties. The nature couldn`t care less whether an Indian is killed or Pakistani, a Hindu or a Muslim)
Please don`t get stuck on those kinds of things. Also, the talk of messages etc insults your own considerable intelligence.
(Governments don`t need help. People do. That can be provided through third parties. The nature couldn`t care less whether an Indian is killed or Pakistani, a Hindu or a Muslim)
#68 Posted by irfanhamid on October 10, 2005 8:19:21 am
Many thanks to all those who are contributing. For people like me who are away from the homeland the feeling of helplessness is overwhelming. In order to facilitate those who wish to help, I have set up a webpage with direct links (where possible) to donation pages of reputed organizations, or with addresses to where you can send those donations to.
www.enst.fr/~hamid/donate.html
If you know of any other legitimate, trustworthy organization (preferably with an online payment method), drop me an email at hamid[at]enst[dot]fr and I will add it to the list.
Regards,
Irfan.
www.enst.fr/~hamid/donate.html
If you know of any other legitimate, trustworthy organization (preferably with an online payment method), drop me an email at hamid[at]enst[dot]fr and I will add it to the list.
Regards,
Irfan.
#70 Posted by tahmed32 on October 10, 2005 9:23:57 am
cipram: ina liliah wa inna alayhai rajaioon. Please accept my condolences on the death of your cousin in this terrible earthquake.
#71 Posted by ali_1 on October 10, 2005 9:52:06 am
#66 by rsridhar
[re: Just nature`s fury or is there a message here?
In this earthquake, POK is hard hit, with Muzaffarabad the capital of POK razed to the ground. The militant organization Lashkar-e-toiba and its affilitated fronts have been wiped out in the area. It is now known that the organization was gearing up for more attacks on Indian Kashmir after having received the green signal from Mushy the rat.
Is this all just a coincidence or is there a message here?]
rshridhar, it is not a coincidence. It seems like your rat bhagwan, snake bhagwan, monkey bhagwan and sai baba have gotten their act together and are working in tandem now to destroy Pakistan.
[re: Just nature`s fury or is there a message here?
In this earthquake, POK is hard hit, with Muzaffarabad the capital of POK razed to the ground. The militant organization Lashkar-e-toiba and its affilitated fronts have been wiped out in the area. It is now known that the organization was gearing up for more attacks on Indian Kashmir after having received the green signal from Mushy the rat.
Is this all just a coincidence or is there a message here?]
rshridhar, it is not a coincidence. It seems like your rat bhagwan, snake bhagwan, monkey bhagwan and sai baba have gotten their act together and are working in tandem now to destroy Pakistan.
#72 Posted by rsridhar on October 10, 2005 10:23:20 am
re:#67 by kaalchakra on October
It was a rhetorical question. It had one unintended result though and u can see it in this Ali character`s post. It seems it is difficult for some Pakis to forget animosities even in this hour.
Now, someone actually wrote a whole article sometime ago in chowk claiming Katrina was Allah`s wrath on USA. Am i not even allowed to ask a rhetorical question?
Sridhar
It was a rhetorical question. It had one unintended result though and u can see it in this Ali character`s post. It seems it is difficult for some Pakis to forget animosities even in this hour.
Now, someone actually wrote a whole article sometime ago in chowk claiming Katrina was Allah`s wrath on USA. Am i not even allowed to ask a rhetorical question?
Sridhar
#73 Posted by rsridhar on October 10, 2005 10:37:17 am
re:#67 by kaalchakra
BTW, I already sent in my contributions to Pakistan through Oxfam, an organization i trust. Can u honestly say this rat Ali would have sent any money to India during the Tsunami disaster? I think not.
Sridhar
BTW, I already sent in my contributions to Pakistan through Oxfam, an organization i trust. Can u honestly say this rat Ali would have sent any money to India during the Tsunami disaster? I think not.
Sridhar
#74 Posted by sri on October 10, 2005 12:27:19 pm
I don`t understand the obsession of desis with brick, mortar and concrete construction. Solid, thick brick walls are very brittle and heavy. Simple physics tells us that once any momentum sets in to a heavy object it would be difficult to stop. Home construction in western countries is very nice. The homes are essentially wood frames where the entire unit acts as a single frame. As a result, theoritically, one can move the entire home to a different location and still the frame remains intact. We should fundamentally change our building practices.
#75 Posted by sri on October 10, 2005 12:44:21 pm
#73 by rsridhar
Well, seemingly, 7th century jihadi retards have now gone insane. They seem to be taking revenge against an act of god by killing innocent people...
Seemigly, god will be angry again at these 7th century retards...
9 Hindus slaughtered in J&K
Mohit Kandhari / Jammu
After killer quake, killers strike
At a time when people in earthquake-ravaged Jammu and Kashmir were struggling to get their life back on the rails, showing no mercy, terrorists struck Budhal tehsil in the border district of Rajouri, slaughtering nine members of two Hindu families around Sunday midnight.........
......... Budhal was among the worst hit in Rajouri district as more than 100 houses collapsed and several others developed cracks after Saturday`s devastating earthquake.
#76 Posted by tahmed32 on October 10, 2005 12:45:51 pm
sri: Wood is scarce in the subcontinent relative to what is available in the US, Canada, Europe. Another reason for reforestation and proper management of natural resources, which would make it possible over time to do what you correctly say. Wood does not work for hi-rises though - other techniques for making hi-rise buildings earthquake resistant are available and should be enforced thru building codes.
#77 Posted by mujnoon on October 10, 2005 1:05:29 pm
It is hard to fathom the pain people are feeling. I have only visited the cities that have been flattened and it`s really hard for me to watch the devastation on tv. I can only imagine what it must be like for people who actually belong to those regions.
Anyways, what I really want to say is this:
Folks PLEASE let`s not bring Pakistan-India politics/conflict into all of this. It is extremely disappointing to see people conveniently interpret such a gruesome disaster through the prism of their animosities towards India or Pakistan.
Please let`s not be reactionary and offensive.
Anyways, what I really want to say is this:
Folks PLEASE let`s not bring Pakistan-India politics/conflict into all of this. It is extremely disappointing to see people conveniently interpret such a gruesome disaster through the prism of their animosities towards India or Pakistan.
Please let`s not be reactionary and offensive.
#78 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 1:10:37 pm
Positives to be found : Over 1000 Paki soldiers killed.
#79 Posted by mujnoon on October 10, 2005 1:43:01 pm
Re: # 78
I am sorry for the families of those soldiers and for those of the 200 soldiers who died in India. For the families of most of those I am sure they were the sole bread winners....
I am sorry for the families of those soldiers and for those of the 200 soldiers who died in India. For the families of most of those I am sure they were the sole bread winners....
#80 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 2:34:37 pm
Mujnoon...no more than 50 soldiers died in India. Atleast 1000 Pakistani soldiers perished though according to initial estimates , and scores of `freedom fighters`.
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