Chowk Staff October 30, 2005
#318 Posted by Godot on November 2, 2005 8:33:43 am
Re: # 309
Tauheed
``Jay...you have a few hours to reflect and provide me with the best answer you can come up with...``
No point in waiting. Just pick up his dhoti and hang it on a pole in Kashmir.
Tauheed
``Jay...you have a few hours to reflect and provide me with the best answer you can come up with...``
No point in waiting. Just pick up his dhoti and hang it on a pole in Kashmir.
#317 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 2, 2005 8:28:13 am
#276, {``jay: Do you support dowry burnings in india? (Yes or No. No ifs or buts).``}
Let me give you a straight answer. I will answer for Jay, for he is an honorable man. Yes, I support dowry burnings in India or anywhere else. I believe that dowries are a curse and need to be burned out of existence. Happy?
Let me give you a straight answer. I will answer for Jay, for he is an honorable man. Yes, I support dowry burnings in India or anywhere else. I believe that dowries are a curse and need to be burned out of existence. Happy?
#316 Posted by jay on November 2, 2005 8:27:12 am
hamidm 300,
I do hope that a few US and nato troops get killed in POK. That will be good for pakistan and the world. Pakistan has to be re-done, kahmir to india, NWFP to afghanistan, punjab and sidh in perpetual war. That will be a fair situation for the world.
I do hope that a few US and nato troops get killed in POK. That will be good for pakistan and the world. Pakistan has to be re-done, kahmir to india, NWFP to afghanistan, punjab and sidh in perpetual war. That will be a fair situation for the world.
#315 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 2, 2005 8:24:47 am
#292, hamidum2 {``i know many good white christians who would love to have your miserable job designing motor mount brackets, or whatever it is that you do in flint ................. ever heard of the term ``munafiq`` ?????????``}
Hamidum Sahib,
After this, do you really expect him to buy you a beer? I wouldn`t.
Hamidum Sahib,
After this, do you really expect him to buy you a beer? I wouldn`t.
#314 Posted by Al_Bundy on November 2, 2005 8:24:13 am
Talking about Circumcision, there is lots of info on the internet. One site in particular- Circumcision Information and Resource Pages(CIRP- http://www.cirp.org/) covers every angle.
Foreskin restoration for circumcised men
http://www.cirp.org/pages/restore.html
This page provides a basic introduction and FAQ about foreskin restoration. Links are provided to other documents within CIRP, as well as external sites, where more comprehensive information may be found.
This page is intended as information only. It is not intended as medical advice. CIRP does not purport to make any specific health claims for foreskin restoration or reconstruction. Non-surgical restoration is not classified as a medical procedure. Restoration is a personal decision, and should only be undertaken following a full understanding of what is involved.
What is ``foreskin restoration?``
The term ``foreskin restoration`` can refer to any method of recreating a facsimile of a foreskin (prepuce) to cover the head of the penis (the glans), for men who have lost their original foreskin due to circumcision. This can be done either by surgical means, or non-surgically by gradual stretching (tissue expansion). A more accurate term for surgical restoration is ``foreskin reconstruction.`` Most of the resources on the Internet are focused on non-surgical restoration.
Despite the name ``restoration`` or ``reconstruction,`` it is not possible to actually restore a lost foreskin. A natural foreskin contains specialized nerve endings, muscles and blood vessels that are necessary for normal sexual function and sensation……………………..
MORE INFO AT THE LINK
Foreskin restoration for circumcised men
http://www.cirp.org/pages/restore.html
This page provides a basic introduction and FAQ about foreskin restoration. Links are provided to other documents within CIRP, as well as external sites, where more comprehensive information may be found.
This page is intended as information only. It is not intended as medical advice. CIRP does not purport to make any specific health claims for foreskin restoration or reconstruction. Non-surgical restoration is not classified as a medical procedure. Restoration is a personal decision, and should only be undertaken following a full understanding of what is involved.
What is ``foreskin restoration?``
The term ``foreskin restoration`` can refer to any method of recreating a facsimile of a foreskin (prepuce) to cover the head of the penis (the glans), for men who have lost their original foreskin due to circumcision. This can be done either by surgical means, or non-surgically by gradual stretching (tissue expansion). A more accurate term for surgical restoration is ``foreskin reconstruction.`` Most of the resources on the Internet are focused on non-surgical restoration.
Despite the name ``restoration`` or ``reconstruction,`` it is not possible to actually restore a lost foreskin. A natural foreskin contains specialized nerve endings, muscles and blood vessels that are necessary for normal sexual function and sensation……………………..
MORE INFO AT THE LINK
#313 Posted by jay on November 2, 2005 8:24:00 am
Hi Godot,
It is a long time since I had an interact with you. Nice to know that you are live and kicking.
Pl do enjoy the humiliation along with tahmed, and watch the rapid decline of a nation built on hatred ideology called TNT, ``muslims cannot live with those of another religion``. Even the dead london bomber has to come back to the land of TNT that impelled him to the bombings. Keep contacts with pakistan, you will be back like Tanweer, it is only a matter of time, and reserve and adjescnet on for tahmed, two shaheeds enjoying the 42 houris, and a twn reminder for those on earth.
It is a long time since I had an interact with you. Nice to know that you are live and kicking.
Pl do enjoy the humiliation along with tahmed, and watch the rapid decline of a nation built on hatred ideology called TNT, ``muslims cannot live with those of another religion``. Even the dead london bomber has to come back to the land of TNT that impelled him to the bombings. Keep contacts with pakistan, you will be back like Tanweer, it is only a matter of time, and reserve and adjescnet on for tahmed, two shaheeds enjoying the 42 houris, and a twn reminder for those on earth.
#312 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 2, 2005 8:22:09 am
#294, khare {``it was thought prepuce (front part of the penis) was unnecessary and CAN be responsible for prepucial cancer``}
Mr. Anyway or Take Care,
Every so seldom, often very rarely, I come across such educational material on Chowk. Thank you so much for enlightening us about the medical and biological rationale for letting it be.
BTW, how in the name of neaven does one pronounce prepuce? Is it pronounced as I suspect it is? :)
Mr. Anyway or Take Care,
Every so seldom, often very rarely, I come across such educational material on Chowk. Thank you so much for enlightening us about the medical and biological rationale for letting it be.
BTW, how in the name of neaven does one pronounce prepuce? Is it pronounced as I suspect it is? :)
#311 Posted by hamidm2 on November 2, 2005 8:19:45 am
Re: # 300
urstruly,
...... you are being evasive as usual about the munafiq issue... khair
............ the fact of the matter is that american and nato helicopters, field hospitals, doctors and engineers are badly needed ......... if some iman-crazed mullah armed with an rpg wants to take them on let them do it - there is plenty of room in guantanamo and hell .......... most of the people in pakistan are grateful for their help ........... tomorrow please say a little prayer of thanks for the kafirs in flint who have provided you with the gulab jamans and barfi even though many of their children will go without presents this christmas
........... by the way, what happened to your friend echoboom ?
urstruly,
...... you are being evasive as usual about the munafiq issue... khair
............ the fact of the matter is that american and nato helicopters, field hospitals, doctors and engineers are badly needed ......... if some iman-crazed mullah armed with an rpg wants to take them on let them do it - there is plenty of room in guantanamo and hell .......... most of the people in pakistan are grateful for their help ........... tomorrow please say a little prayer of thanks for the kafirs in flint who have provided you with the gulab jamans and barfi even though many of their children will go without presents this christmas
........... by the way, what happened to your friend echoboom ?
#310 Posted by jay on November 2, 2005 8:18:03 am
Kulharee, 303,
Dont take these to heart, you must be new to chowk, a bit of good old pakibashing is good for the soul.
Despite my above remark, if you are serious about pak society, think of the reson why Tanweer was returned as a shaheed to pakistan when he was born and educated in UK, and all of the pakistanis were claiming the londen bom,bings as a local terrorism not linked to pakistan.
If you are interested in the pak educated, may be it is a small window to a chasm.
Dont take these to heart, you must be new to chowk, a bit of good old pakibashing is good for the soul.
Despite my above remark, if you are serious about pak society, think of the reson why Tanweer was returned as a shaheed to pakistan when he was born and educated in UK, and all of the pakistanis were claiming the londen bom,bings as a local terrorism not linked to pakistan.
If you are interested in the pak educated, may be it is a small window to a chasm.
#309 Posted by tahmed32 on November 2, 2005 8:15:08 am
And one more thing, Jay the Dowry Killer: I will come back later to check your answer. If you give me the wrong answer, I will have you sent back to the asylum for another 6 months. Got it?? So, you have a few hours to reflect and provide me with the best answer you can come up with.
#308 Posted by khare on November 2, 2005 8:15:01 am
#298 by Kulharee
Is that true?...that it is only OPTIONAL in Islam? And also, that the process does not cut off any skin? As I have read, it says that Abrahm had to offer a piece of flesh from own body as a proof of covenent. If nothing is removed, it does not count. But, the question still remains ... why this part of the body? Should we assume Abrahm was very smart in suggesting an unwanted part of the body and kind of fooled god?
If you ask me ...our ancestors were wise. They followed science even in those days. Their analysis in those days showed prepuce was unnecessary and could cause problems ...especially of you do not clean regularly, casues build-up followed by mild infections which cause inflammation adn eventually MAY lead to cancer in some cases ...understandable that in those days they probably did not clean often and well. And, as usual, some stupid humans included it as part of religion and invented story of Abrahm, covenent and god and all that nonsense.
.....For Desis with small peepees, it should be optional. Every little bit counts....
It really does not add anything. During erections it is automatically pulled back ....in almost all cases according to medical science... Probably you are not aware of this since you have lived only in ``circumcized world``
But, seriously, could you quote where it says this ritual is ``optional`` for muslims?
Is that true?...that it is only OPTIONAL in Islam? And also, that the process does not cut off any skin? As I have read, it says that Abrahm had to offer a piece of flesh from own body as a proof of covenent. If nothing is removed, it does not count. But, the question still remains ... why this part of the body? Should we assume Abrahm was very smart in suggesting an unwanted part of the body and kind of fooled god?
If you ask me ...our ancestors were wise. They followed science even in those days. Their analysis in those days showed prepuce was unnecessary and could cause problems ...especially of you do not clean regularly, casues build-up followed by mild infections which cause inflammation adn eventually MAY lead to cancer in some cases ...understandable that in those days they probably did not clean often and well. And, as usual, some stupid humans included it as part of religion and invented story of Abrahm, covenent and god and all that nonsense.
.....For Desis with small peepees, it should be optional. Every little bit counts....
It really does not add anything. During erections it is automatically pulled back ....in almost all cases according to medical science... Probably you are not aware of this since you have lived only in ``circumcized world``
But, seriously, could you quote where it says this ritual is ``optional`` for muslims?
#307 Posted by Godot on November 2, 2005 8:14:47 am
Re: # 303
``deff ear``
That`s what Pakistanis need to do when this eminent scholar Jay opens his mouth.
``deff ear``
That`s what Pakistanis need to do when this eminent scholar Jay opens his mouth.
#306 Posted by tahmed32 on November 2, 2005 8:13:36 am
Jay the Domestic Terrorist: dont write lengthy posts to me. First answer my question: why do you think the burning of wives is OK?
Second: What did they do to you in the asylum?? You have come back even more full of hate than before??
Second: What did they do to you in the asylum?? You have come back even more full of hate than before??
#305 Posted by jay on November 2, 2005 8:10:51 am
tahmed,
what a coincidence, you are live on chowk, responding to me.
Look the facts are simple, hoodood is law in pakistan because people like you remain silent, you come up with excuses that Zia did it, and no one can do anything about it.
So many like the Bina shahs of chowks have written about , all the writings are always about blaming some one, Zia, Mushy you name it. No one takes responsibility and states taht it should be publicised, it should made clear to the world that honour killing is legal in pakistan.
I have never seen any one say that on chowk or for that matter in any puiblication. The story always is that honour killing is a tribal practice. The fact is that it is legal any where in pakistan.
No one has ever written about the murder of Samia Sarawr and ststed that the father who killed his daughter was never charged because no crime is comitted. Look tahmed, what I have pointed out is very different from corruption and implementation of the law.
Say, tahmed, tell the world that Samia Sarwars killers were not charged with any crime, not because of corruption, not because of any lack of evidence, but cecause honour killing is legal in pakistan
what a coincidence, you are live on chowk, responding to me.
Look the facts are simple, hoodood is law in pakistan because people like you remain silent, you come up with excuses that Zia did it, and no one can do anything about it.
So many like the Bina shahs of chowks have written about , all the writings are always about blaming some one, Zia, Mushy you name it. No one takes responsibility and states taht it should be publicised, it should made clear to the world that honour killing is legal in pakistan.
I have never seen any one say that on chowk or for that matter in any puiblication. The story always is that honour killing is a tribal practice. The fact is that it is legal any where in pakistan.
No one has ever written about the murder of Samia Sarawr and ststed that the father who killed his daughter was never charged because no crime is comitted. Look tahmed, what I have pointed out is very different from corruption and implementation of the law.
Say, tahmed, tell the world that Samia Sarwars killers were not charged with any crime, not because of corruption, not because of any lack of evidence, but cecause honour killing is legal in pakistan
#304 Posted by Kulharee on November 2, 2005 8:06:44 am
Re: # 303
Jay, Now I think you make a good point where you mention that educated Pakistanis are not any different from educated Indians who should be proud of Delhi blasts, as it exposes the inability of NDFD (New Delhi Fire Department) as to how quickly they were on the scene with their state of the art water pipes. Do you know that their pipes looked (I watched CNN) thinner than an average wiener, and their firetrucks appeared to be made by Suzuki motors with 2 strokes engines that do 200 miles to a gallon. And this is a country that considers itself an Asian giant.
Educated Pakistani are indeed embarrassed about the misery and humiliation inflicted upon us at this time, but if an educated Indian’s pastime is to ridicule educated Pakistanis, then I guess you have a point.
Jay, Now I think you make a good point where you mention that educated Pakistanis are not any different from educated Indians who should be proud of Delhi blasts, as it exposes the inability of NDFD (New Delhi Fire Department) as to how quickly they were on the scene with their state of the art water pipes. Do you know that their pipes looked (I watched CNN) thinner than an average wiener, and their firetrucks appeared to be made by Suzuki motors with 2 strokes engines that do 200 miles to a gallon. And this is a country that considers itself an Asian giant.
Educated Pakistani are indeed embarrassed about the misery and humiliation inflicted upon us at this time, but if an educated Indian’s pastime is to ridicule educated Pakistanis, then I guess you have a point.
#303 Posted by jay on November 2, 2005 8:03:20 am
Earth quake is has set a new path in the iraquisation of pakistan. With 60K already dead a few more K`s yet to go, the homeless flooding to the cities, the nato and the US forces in control, with definite fire fight to take place in POK...with all the pak resources stretched..the situation is moving to the days of iraq during teh time of UN sanctions.
The only difference for pakistan is that there are no explicit sanctions. I remeber reading about locust control in pakistan and they have only two aircraft to do the job, the rest are grounded because of lack of spares. If one cannot get spares for some old Piper pawnies what is the pak situation for high tech spares.
I am all for the humiliation of teh educated pakistanis, but it is the poor and the hungry who are suffering, well no different in iraq during sadam days, when thousands died with out medicenes, well it is the same today in pakistan. There is call for help going out, in sadam`s iraq it was ignored explicity, for pakistan the world has turned a deff ear
The only difference for pakistan is that there are no explicit sanctions. I remeber reading about locust control in pakistan and they have only two aircraft to do the job, the rest are grounded because of lack of spares. If one cannot get spares for some old Piper pawnies what is the pak situation for high tech spares.
I am all for the humiliation of teh educated pakistanis, but it is the poor and the hungry who are suffering, well no different in iraq during sadam days, when thousands died with out medicenes, well it is the same today in pakistan. There is call for help going out, in sadam`s iraq it was ignored explicity, for pakistan the world has turned a deff ear
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