Bomb Blasts in Delhi

Re: # 284

Turly, do you understand why on god’s earth do you live in the US and not in Kashmir?

When you move back to your disease infested sewer, your rhetoric might make some sense.

Re: # 280

Hamid

It has also been said that Prophet Mohammad was born circumcised. Further, I happened to catch a debate on Nightline once where a rabbi in favor of circumcision was arguing with his opponent who apparently wasn’t in favor of it. The rabbi produced scientific evidence stating that circumcision prevents penis-cancer.

I don`t understand why on God`s green earth we needed American help in the disaster area in the first place. Americans are a big liability and a security risk for Pakistan. Valuable resources, which could be used to help quake victims has been reserved to just provide security to these people. According to a news report Americans have established their camp in the center of Muzaffarabad and no human being is allowed to tresspass with in one mile radius of this area. How many security personnel would be required to maintain this perimeter? Just imagine the inconvinience this would have been causing to the local survivors and rescue workers. I think Americans have made their public relations point that they are a benevolent nation. Thank you very much. Now go home.

Re: # 280

dost-mittar,

nice to know the reason for circumcising.

Do you also know why people avoid ``pork`` other than probably Muhammad did not like the taste of it..??

Re: # 281

It should be ``throw back a brick`` and not ``through.`` I thought I should clarify that before Hamid let loose that esl teacher on me!

Aha_Snark

From Aha_Snark to Godot: “I responded to harimau`s posts because clear rebuttals and observations on the points that he made are far more effective than responding in kind.”

From Aha_Snark to Harimau (there goes the Listerine again...aaarrrgh): “ How?” and “Are you saying that India should treat it`s minorities the way (you think that) Islamic countries treat theirs? Or is the reasoning that X Islamic Country treats it`s minorities badly, so genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation is just parity?”

From Harimau (.....Listerine) to Aha_Snark: “ Next time a foreigner makes u thankless hijras` mothers warm their beds.....let them do it.....next time someone wants to hummilliate you by taking your sisters let em......next time a hindian gets circumcized, let em....... you thankless hijrass deserve it”

You see, Aha_Snark, that’s what you get for being polite and rational. You cannot reason with ignorance and hate. You either close your nose and pass the sewer hurriedly, or through back a brick. You probably are too new at Chowk and seem to think everyone here is educated, enlightened, rational, logical, well-meaning, and caring for humanity, and that you can get into a meaningful and logical debate with them bordering on decency. Stick around and you will find out. However, I think you have gotten a taste already. Better go wash your mouth with Listerine.


Jay

“Godot, find out what education is about, and I am not talking about the mdrassa type that you have learned.”

Why don’t you tell us, Jay, which eminent school you attended and the education you received there that has chained you in a tunnel of hate?

Re: # 278

dost-mittar,

.........thanks for the information ......... seriously, i have been a muslim all my life and didn`t know that .......... following your religion is a thoughtless process ! .......... even an idiot can follow a religion .............

#270 by harish_hyd on November 1, 2005 11:14pm PT

Yup...just pakis being pakis..

U.S. Army Helicopter Apparently Fired On in Pakistan
By SALMAN MASOOD

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Nov. 1- A United States Army helicopter aiding the earthquake relief effort here reported that it might have been fired on today in the Pakistani-controlled part of the disputed Kashmir region, and both the American military and the Pakistani government are investigating, the United States Embassy said.

The helicopter, a large CH-47 Chinook cargo aircraft, was carrying aid supplies near Chakothi around 1:45 p.m. when the crew spotted what appeared to be a rocket-propelled grenade fired toward it from the ground, American officials said. Chakothi is about 36 miles south of Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistan- administered Kashmir.

Pakistani officials downplayed the incident, suggesting that it was a case of misunderstanding.

A Pakistani military spokesman, Maj. Gen. Shaukat Sultan, told journalists in Islamabad that ``dynamite was being used to clear the blocked roads in Chakothi and the pilot had a misunderstanding,`` adding, ``The concerns of the U.S. officials have been addressed.``

But American officials said the helicopter crew had flown in from Afghanistan and was familiar with attacks using rocket-propelled grenades. ``The crewmember in the back of the aircraft observed the characteristics of an R.P.G. firing,`` Colonel Yonts said.

Netizen#221:

``why are muslim men circumised? whats the rationale?``

Here is my understanding. I hope one of Mulim chowkies will correct me if I am wrong.

Circumcision is an affirmation of Prophet Abraham`s covenant with God. Under this covenant, all descendants of Abraham`s tribe were to circumcise their sons as an affirmation of this covenant. The practice was therefore restricted to jews who called themselves God`s chosen people. Prophet Mohammad claimed that he too was a descendant of Prophet Abraham. He rebelled against the concept of ``chosen people`` and said that the covenant between Abraham and God applied to Muslims as well.

Ref Aha_Snark #274

I can`t do better than kaurasach on another board, so here it is:

#19 by kaurasach on November 1, 2005 1:44pm PT
18, Jhoothavaadi,

No use playing a flute in front of a bufflo.......still i will try.....

ONLY sikhs have defended Bharat and citizens of the land.....Kashmir was saved by sikhs.....

and Hindians have sold the mata as two bit whore again and again....Nehru and Gandhi were the latest pimps in the long line......

and then the slaughter of INNOCENT sikhs.....what do you expect them to do after the hijraas played intrigues in Pb........

The reason they got beat is that they didn`t do enough killing on their part......shudve killed more and let muslas take care of you......


Next time a foreigner makes u thankless hijras` mothers warm their beds.....let them do it.....next time someone wants to hummilliate you by taking your sisters let em......next time a hindian gets circumcized, let em.......

you thankless hijrass deserve it.

jay: Do you support dowry burnings in india? (Yes or No. No ifs or buts).

``The car bomb is our first gift to Ghulam Nabi Azad,`` a man, identifying himself as Abu Quduma and claiming to be a spokesman of Jaish-e-Mohammad told a local news agency.

He identified the bomber as Mohammed Mubashir Hussain, a resident of Abbaspora village in Rawalakot in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

Bomb, a suicide bomb in kashmir. Well here is a contribution from POK residents for the support of the world in earth quake rescue. For all those who support free travel from pakistan, here is a reminder.

It is only few of the ilk of dost mitter and stuka who support the pakistanis and their terrorism and encourage free travel.

I dfo hope that the delhi bomber turns out to be the one given visa by the indians as part of the cricket friendship.

Re: # 162
re: harimau:
(This is in response to post # 156 )

/// I did expect one of you hand-wringing self-hating Hindus who are sorry they don`t have enough women in their families to be raped by Muslim thugs to come out with some such statement. ///

So. To point out that someone is calling for genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation, and to point out the fact that the author does not find these actions thuggish, means that I`m a hand-wringing self-hating Hindu who`s sorry I don`t have enough women in my family to be raped by Muslim thugs.

How?

///My attitude is: those who don`t like it can haul their butts off to The Land of the Pure carved out for them by Jinnah.///

Of course. Love India ( meaning accept genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation) or Leave India. And with attitudes like that, who could do anything but love India?

///And guys like you can move there too to see what life as a minority in an Islamic country is. ///

Are you saying that India should treat it`s minorities the way (you think that) Islamic countries treat theirs? Or is the reasoning that X Islamic Country treats it`s minorities badly, so genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation is just parity?

Aha_Snark

Re: # 166
re: godot:

I responded to harimau`s posts because clear rebuttals and observations on the points that he made are far more effective than responding in kind. Another response is to keep your words clear, clean, logical and compassionate. Apart from the intrinsic value of such speech, it is an extreme tactical blunder to respond in kind - the eenth ka jawaab patthar se doctrine is totally bogus. By being clear and rebutting on material facts, and following up on queries, you force the other person to retreat into ever-more-constricting circles of abuse and invective.

Secondly, take a look at my reply to post # 162 - the one where he called me a handwringing self-hating Hindu eager to have the women in my family raped by Islamic thugs. Any thoughts on that ?

Aha_Snark

Hate on chowk,

It is common for the tahmeds, ylh and godot to talk of hatred of indians towards pakistanis. When we post about hoodood it is hate, when we post about muktar mai it is hate, when we post abou the jihack and release of azhar it is hate.

The above type of people are the ones of the musharaff types, they do not want the injustice of pakistan to be mentioned, they want to project a soft image. All that it means are these are the educated ones of pakistan that are against progress, the taheds of pakistan support hoodood because it is per the book, they support the jihadists because the highest reqard of a religion, the heaven is reserved for them.

The most orthodox supporters of hoodood are the chowk pakistanis and that is the reson hoodood is flourrishing today in pakistan.

It is the godot of pakistan that give an excuse for hoodood and teh cosnequential hobour killigs to Zia and stop any changes.

Godot, hate is not support for honour killings even when it is per the book. Godot, religion has to be criticised when it supports honour killigs and that is not hatred of the religion.

Godot, find out what education is about, and I am not talking about the mdrassa type that you have learned.

Re: #258 by godot


[Why play with other people’s deep-seated emotions and beliefs? What purpose does it serve other than perpetuating and bringing out hate? But obviously some take great pleasure in doing just that, the targeted ones retaliate, and the vicious cycle continues. And this is among the educated crowd at Chowk, mind you, and based on what they write at Chowk, they would resort to killing, raping and pillaging if given half a chance...and these are the “educated” ones who should know better but apparently don’t, so immersed they are in hate.

I should know. I know what it’s like to hate.]


9:29, Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,”


(Sahih Bukhari 4.260)
Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people [hypocrites] and this news reached Ibn `Abbas, who said, ``Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, `Don`t punish (anybody) with Allah`s Punishment.` No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, `If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.` ``


3:151
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.


8:12
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Moreover Allah says of those who reject him. Because, Allah has already sentenced them to death.


9:28, O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.


22:19-22; These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), “Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!”