Bomb Blasts in Delhi

#364 by Salim_Chauhan

Thanks for the explanations. But, you missed the main word ..takhallus. Is it from the word tallukat ..or something like that... which means realtionship. People use it in situations like saying: what has that got to do with the subject on discussion. (Actually, this question is relevant to chowk discussions much too often).
Thanks for giving other meanings. Funny ...khare (true) in my language can mean khota in some other language. Living on border of several languages, I have seen many battles and even wars because one did not understand nuances of dialects/languages of the other.

BTW, I worked with real bugs for a long time, although I am not an entomologist (not an entymologist either) ... bad caterpillars... gypsy moths, if you have heard of them. But, my present focus of research is on smaller bugs like fungi and bacteria.

Kulharee....comparing your descriptions of ``what is circumcision`` with my extenstive study of scientific and medical videos, DVDs and internet over the years I conclude that someone did not do a good job on your sunnTaN...remember as a kid when you insisted on doing something like insisting your mother slap your elder brother for bullying you....remember what mom did? she pretended to slap your brother making big noise by slapping her own hands together making you believe that she really did slap him and hence making you happy...guess what I think your sunnTaN were also like that...Abbu got the local nayee and they pretended they did your sunnTaN but actually did not...properly circumcised intruments don`t have high necks to roll up.
Welcome to the fold brother...you have been a kafir all this time.:-)

#363, Khare {``Well, in my language (colloquial dialect), khare means ``true``. It rhymes with the expression ``Arrey``... like in.. arre yaar, kahan ja rahe ho.. ``}

Thank you Sach Sahib,
Yes, khare (kharey) is ``truth`` or as I understand ``raw`` or ``direct.`` or ``blunt`` depending on how it is used. Thank you for clarifying that.

Yes, you guessed right. If you say Khair (shymes with hare), it is like saying ``no matter,`` ``Fogget about it,`` ``Never mind,`` or ``let it be.``

Also, khare also means ``safe, care`` as in Shab-be-Khair (good night, or night with care)

Then khar or Khur (rhymes with her) means donkey in Farsi or khota in Punjabi or gadha in Urdu/Hindustani.

Language is so much fun. That is why I am an amateur entymologist - I love digging up dung beetles of a linguistic kind.

#360 by Salim_Chauhan

....I need to ask for the proper way to pronounce your takhallus. ...

Salim, you will need to explain quite a few words from your message. What is Takhallus? What is equivalent of ``anyway``, take care (you mean Khair?). Others I did not get at all.

I gave an idea somewhere that I am from South India. However, come from a place where Dakhani Urdu is spoken..somewaht like Hyderabadi.. But, still some of the north Hindustani/Urdu words go over my head.
Well, in my language (colloquial dialect), khare means ``true``. It rhymes with the expression ``Arrey``... like in.. arre yaar, kahan ja rahe ho..

Re: # 359

Chauhan Sahib, I stand by what I said. It is all in the interpretation and translations. Islam started in male chauvinist societies of the 7th century Arabia, and whatever was the wisdom of that time was considered to be the word of Allah – including the stuff about 4 wives. It is now two thousand years later, and some of the stuff is no longer applicable, nor is it valid anymore. As my Rabbi tells me that you can wave your Lantern all you want, but if there is no light (lit wax thread) inside, it makes no difference and it has no affect. It is Molvi’s Islam that is like a Lantern without light (Laltane bin Batee).

You may have your own Islam, but mine is somewhat different from your regular Islam, and mine is not blind.

Urstruly #284

`` I don`t understand why on God`s green earth we needed American help in the disaster area in the first place. Americans are a big liability and a security risk for Pakistan. Valuable resources, which could be used to help quake victims has been reserved to just provide security to these people. According to a news report Americans have established their camp in the center of Muzaffarabad and no human being is allowed to tresspass with in one mile radius of this area. How many security personnel would be required to maintain this perimeter? Just imagine the inconvinience this would have been causing to the local survivors and rescue workers. I think Americans have made their public relations point that they are a benevolent nation. Thank you very much. Now go home. ``

You need American transport helicopters. The fuel to operate these choppers are paid for American taxpayers. Pakistani Army has 550,000 soldiers. 1000 soldiers for security perimeters are not going to hurt relief efforts. You need to secure helicopter landing areas to manage crowds.

#356, Khare.

I am sorry but I need to ask for the proper way to pronounce your takhallus.
I can think of the following:

1. Khare - as in ``take care``
2. Khare - as in ``any way`` or ``doesn`t matter``
3. Khare - kharey, as in ``raw`` ``strict`` ``sour``
4. Khare - as in Khur-e-Chowk or Chowk da Khota

Please advise.

#356, khare {``#356 by khare on November 2, 2005 11:55am PT
#323 by Kulharee
.....Islam is a gender-blind and race-blind religion. .....
..we have made one better than other...a man can marry 4 wives, but not the reverse ... you can enter any time and whichever way you want to, she is like a field .. she should be willing...hindu...desi...color...``}

Khare, Anyway, TaKe Care,

Stop! Stop! Enough. You win. I think that the Axeman should modify his comment to:

``Islam is a blind religion. `` or better yet ``Islam is a religion for the blind.``

Romair #332

`` I think they hate us because we are beautiful (in comparison to them, though not in comparison to Australians and Norwegians and Canadians or Greeks). I was highly impressed by the following article on BBC, which solidified my theory, even furthur: ``

If fairness was criterion was beauty Indians must hate Europeans. That is not the case, Maybe that is why Pakistanis hate the Western World ?

Re: # 343

Aha_Snark

“The interactor in question has evaded every single one of my direct questions, has refused to engage on the grounds of logic and has used the filthiest terms of abuse. His posts stand exposed as baseless, indefensible ( i.e. his inability to defend what he says ) hate mongering.”

Then why bother? As I said before, you cannot reason with ignorance and hate.

“It`s far more difficult to engage in clear and rational dialogue than it is to resort to xenophobia, racism, sexism or other forms of prejudice.”

That’s why you rarely see an intense but healthy debate at Chowk. It’s a constant Pak-Bharat bickering as to who stinks more.

“on this board and on numerous other boards, I have cornered the interactor in question using clear logic and asked him to connect the dots or provide sources for his allegations. And I can`t remember a single time he has been able to do so.”

Welcome to the club, and don’t hold your breath.

“hate speech...will be defeated if and only if ordinary chowkies do not indulge in violent speech, do provide sources to back up critical assertions, and do, quietly but determinedly oppose hate speech when they see it.``

You will never get a decent response from the likes of the individual in question no matter how high a ground you hold. I rather keep my nose closed. If you noticed, I have not addressed the individual in question. I usually don’t respond to sewer posts and the swine that dwells in it.

But I do agree with you. We can have a meaningful and healthy argument without necessarily having to agree with each other. You sound like an intelligent and a decent person. In a disagreement, I look forward to crossing swords with you down the road without having to get involved in insults and profanities.

#323 by Kulharee

.....Islam is a gender-blind and race-blind religion. .....

Wow... I am learning new things. What are those suras that say regarding males ..we have made one better than other...a man can marry 4 wives, but not the reverse ... you can enter any time and whichever way you want to, she is like a field .. she should be willing and ready to satisfy at any time ... and numerous others that clearly differentiate between males and females. These are right in Quran and not hadiths or sunnah. How can these be justified if one has to proclaim that Islam is gender-blind?

As for race, the Quran states clearly that the difference between a muslim and a non muslim is as great as heaven and earth. If it is Hindu in question, then it is heaven and dingeon, hell. Apart from the religion, it may be true, although I do not see it practiced in real life ...at least in south India. They are like any desi...color of the skin, economic status, family origin, what work one does for living (i.e., shudra equivalant for Hindus) are all very important in developing interactions such as marriage.

Romair #344, {``I think you may have me confused also. I prefer Ben Gay. Perparation G (or H) is not my style........

In any case, what are your views about the theory, jointly presented, by myself and Prof Bharat of Tata Institute............``}

Romair Bhai,
If you prefer Ben Gay over Preparations E, F, G, and H, are you in trouble? Your howling and screaming all over chowk will increase several times AFTER application of the ``ointment of love.`` You may want to taste Ben Gay before applying it to the tender area.

As for your whitewashing proposal, whether a joint venture or a fully owned enterprise of your own, I salute you in presenting this theory. When it comes to bleaching or whitewashing, or plain blanking or blanketing, there is no one more qualified and experienced on Chowk than you, My Captain.

Romair.....whatever you say genius.

Aniruddh Shankar..whats up !! Read in the newspaper that you commies are planning 2 back to back general strikes....one to protest against the joint exercises held by the air forces of US and India and the other to force India to vote in favor of Iraq having the nuke option........bet you are gonna participate as well huh ?

Ranger #346: ``be a man and post your own photo so that it can be analysed at length by the folks here. It would certainly throw a better insight than any of your silly lenghty never ending posts on how and why pakis are fairer or whatever than Indians.``

You seem to have taken an innocent scientific study to be something personal.......

Don`t worry. I don`t claim to be the next Brad Pitt. If I post my pic up here, it will scare the hell out of everyone. People will stop visiting Chowk. I am almost as ugly as the next South Asian. And I am not stating that Pakistanis are more, ``whatever`` than Indians. They are not more whatever. They are only fairer. Nothing more, nothing less. I am simply trying to get to the bottom of this hatred that exists amongst our Indian colleagues for Pakistanis.

And I am using the research of Indian professors and companies to reach a conclusion. So forget about me. What are your views about Prof Bharat`s comments? As well as the market research carried out by the Indian company.........

Re: # 277
re: harimau:

I`d still like an answer to the first, third and fourth questions put to you in post # 274. If you please. In your own words, and not in kaurasach`s.

Or was this a reply to the question?

Aha_Snark