Bomb Blasts in Delhi

Ref Aha_Snark #387

[re: Ranger:

You forgot the general strike demanding the forced nationalisation of everyone`s kidneys. And the ``nationwide`` (i.e., West Bengal, Tripura & Kerala) strike calling for the words Lal Salaam to prefix and suffix every sentence. And a countrywide agitation calling for Party workers to be invited to all the nice birthday parties. Oh, and they get extra cake.]

During the recent All-India strike called by your Marxist friends, the crowd of strikers stopped a car in Kolkata. The woman who came storming out of the car was none other than Buddhadeb Bhattacharya`s wife who demanded to know how they dared stop HER car. The leader of the crowd abjectly apologized and the crowd parted so that she could proceed on her way.

In years past, in the same Calcutta, if you dared drive your car when a general strike was called, you were likely to be beaten to death. Why didn`t you Commie mufukkas beat up Buddhadeb`s wife?

How many people have died because they couldn`t get to a hospital because of the strike? Why does the top Commie`s wife deserve special treatment?

Yep, some animals are more equal than other animals.

Re: # 392
re: harimau:

Just to clarify my position on this, party workers enforcing bandhs or strikes by force is reprehensible. So, yes, I`ll come out and state it clearly: What Left party workers did in Calcutta - obstruct people from going about their work and attending to their needs - is wrong and indefensible.

By the way, just wanted to ask: I put several questions to you in post 274 and in post 351 . You have not answered them as yet.

Re: # 392

``In years past, in the same Calcutta, if you dared drive your car when a general strike was called, you were likely to be beaten to death. Why didn`t you Commie mufukkas beat up Buddhadeb`s wife? ``

the same thing happened in mumbai, whereas the entire city was stinking because the municipal workers were on strike, a ``special`` truck took care of the garbage from the ``leaders`` house.

#383 by tahmed32

[For 6 years you have done nothing but talk about honor killings in Pakistan, and express your hatred for Pakistan itself and for muslims.]

Please show us one post in which Jay has expressed his hatred for ALL Muslims? Or are you cleverly trying to use this longish post to peddle a blatant lie?

[My late father wrote a paper that was used in the Lahore High Court to challenge the hadood ordinance. And after he died, I have given it to Pakistanis who continue to fight for the repeal of this ordinance.]

A paper that your late father wrote? Oh so that’s the valuable contribution you made in the fight for the repeal of Hudood Ordinance in Pakistan? I don’t see anything here that YOU “personally” did. Please note the operating word here.

My dad never took a rupee as dowry. Is that my contribution to the fight against the evil?

Given the “monumental” sacrifices that you and other expatriate Pakis have made, is it any wonder that the Hudood Ordinance is nowhere close to being repealed?

[You think your behavior will cause Pakistanis to develop hatred for India?]

You don’t have to mull over what is a given. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t see the proliferation of chanda boxes at every street corner, and millions of dollars contributed to the fight against the infidel Hindu Army in Indian Kashmir.

Fess it up, there is widespread support for Islamic terrorists. Or you wouldn’t see a top-ranking Al Qaeda activist being smoked out of an army officer’s house in Rawalpindi, or another, an African who can in no way remain anonymous in Pakistan, being caught from downtown Faisalabad.

re: #381 by sri

[I can totally vouch for Indian liking for fair skin. I mean... whenever I go to these nudee bars here in the U.S. I see many of my brethen hanging around near the dark corners of the walls and totally drooling at the sight of white women. ]



Ah, so your brethren are totally drooling over these women.

And you are doing what - discussing quantum mechanics with these women?

Re: #381 by sri


[I can totally vouch for Indian liking for fair skin. I mean... whenever I go to these nudee bars here in the U.S. I see many of my brethen hanging around near the dark corners of the walls and totally drooling at the sight of white women. And many of them look totally dazed and lost even without drinking a single bottle of beer. It is indeed a contradiction in Indians that they hate fair colored Pakistanis so much. ]


There`s absolutely nothing wrong with anyone preferring fairer skin. It`s a free world, and you can like what you want. For example, most Whites prefer relatively fairer skin and blonder Scandinavian hair. They even dye their hair to imitate it. Nobody gives it a second thought. It`s considered an attribute of beauty, nothing more.

So get rid of your hangups, and get a life.

Re: #343 by Aha_Snark


[Fascism and hate speech on this board will never be defeated by chowk staff. It will never be defeated by, as you say, ``holding your nose in front of the sewer``. It will be defeated if and only if ordinary chowkies do not indulge in violent speech, do provide sources to back up critical assertions, and do, quietly but determinedly oppose hate speech when they see it. ]



So you DO like to provide sources to back up critical assertions, eh, Snarky?

Then provide us with the sources to back up your assertions about genocide in India (before you do, check out the definition for genocide somewhere, just in case).

And after you are done, I`ll provide you some examples of genocide by your friends in the ummah-hood across the border about which I don`t see you getting too upset about.

But first, your turn.

Re: # 388
re: Ranger:

Fair enough. But just to clarify things, exactly what assertion regarding ``genocide in India`` as you call it do you think I have made on this board? Just so I can respond directly to your request for sources.

Aha_Snark

``Islamic militant group Jaish-i-Mohammed immediately claimed responsibility for the bombing in telephone calls to a local news agency.

“The car bomb is our first gift to Ghulam Nabi Azad (occupied Kasmir’s incoming chief minister),” Abu Qudama, spokesman for the Jaish-i-Mohammed, told the Kashmir News Service.``

Jaish mohammed is an organisation supported by pak society, and and based in POK, and let teh world decide on help for teh quake victims.

``But you think I would discuss these things with you?? A man for whom the death of 70,000 people is something to be joyful about? You have to be truly insane to think I would have anything to do with you. And a truly shameless individual.``

The above quote is from tahmed.

When a natiral calamity hit pakistan and 70,000 killed, a man released from an indian porison following hijacking has calimed responsibility for a suicide bambing of 10 in India.

Pak society hailed him, ashgar a hero and he formed, he is supported by the pak govt. Tahmed, a deliberate act of Asghar suppoeted by the pak society, and no one, not even a single pakistani, has admitted to the pak govt support for terrorism.

It has to be said, death in pakistan become statistics for most of the world as seen by the world response.

tahmed, 383,

You have completely missed the point. I do not mince words, I am critical even abhores pak society, and the society is not the individuals that interact on chowk. SWociety is an average, every one is an exception to it, you and urstruly. But the average of pak society is represented by the institutions of pakistan, the legal system in my posts.

You and may be all of interactors on chowk are against hoodood, I have no doubts about it, but the collective pak society is in full support of it.

When you and the other educated of pakistan say that hoodood is because of Zia, you are not assuming responsibility. You could as well say that hoodood represent the pak value system and that is why no one has dared to make an iota of change to what Zia did. That shows the visionary nature of Zia, he knew the pulse of teh pakistanis.

So please, I have no disagreement with you as an individual as far as your personal values are concerned, but when you try to call me names when I tell the truth about pak society, pl do join in.

Let me give you an example how social vlues can be changed, how the laws can be changed form a case in Kerala. female foeticide is comoon. About 10 years ago they criminalised the sex identification, a few doctiors were prosecuted, following which doctors stopped the practice. Then came some para medicals performing the function. Now the ultrasound machine cannot be sold to none other than a doctor.

The changes happened because of people like me, I did not talk about my belief, if female foeticide is taking place, it has to be stopped and laws will be changed to achive that.

Now take the case of honour killing, no one has ever said on chowk that it is the hoodood that has legalised it and now honour killings are on the increase.

So tahmed, do not take it personal, help to change the society, and talk of hoodood, it has nothing much to do with Zia, he only implemented what most pakistanis wanted.

The same is taking plavce in Malaysia, they also have introduced hoodood

Jay: I said I would give you the rest of the day to re-think your response to my simple question about whether you were for or against dowry burnings in India. This is all you had to say: ``The indian society is against bride burning and that is why it is illegal to kill any one including brides.``

You chose to give this evasive answer, when I had said all I wanted was a simple yes or no. Despite encouragements from Netizen and Salim to give a simple yes, you chose to sit on your moral pedestal and stick to this evasive response.

For 6 years you have done nothing but talk about honor killings in Pakistan, and express your hatred for Pakistan itself and for muslims. During this terrible time when over 70,000 people have been killed in the earthquake, you have been writing posts gleefully writing about what in your demented mind you consider to be humiliation for Pakistan. And never a peep out of you when it comes to anything in India in all these years. You are no mere cheapster from indian streets who can only throw abuse (of the kind gujjubania has been writing) in attempts to intimidate (and no, i dont let abuse from the safety of the internet by lowlife bother me). You on the other hand are a mature man, a member of the India NRI who has worked for international agencies. Shame on you for your inhuman behavior at this time. And shame on you for the irresponsible manner in which you have sought to turn chowk on its head - a place for Indian-Pakistani mudslinging rather than one for building bridges. Bridges badly needed by the millions of poverty stricken people in both countries. Not that you are capable of shame.

I would gladly discuss any of Pakistan`s problems with anyone. All countries have problems - you jump at the fact that someone shot at a US helicopter?? there were nuts in New Orleans who were shooting at helicopters. No sane man would consider this to be a reason to claim that this says something about all of Pakistan. You lecture me on the hadood ordinances?? My late father wrote a paper that was used in the Lahore High Court to challenge the hadood ordinance. And after he died, I have given it to Pakistanis who continue to fight for the repeal of this ordinance. But you think I would discuss these things with you?? A man for whom the death of 70,000 people is something to be joyful about? You have to be truly insane to think I would have anything to do with you. And a truly shameless individual.

You think your behavior will cause Pakistanis to develop hatred for India? Dont count on that either. While I am shocked at some of the behavior by individuals on chowk (as any normal person would be) who laugh at real life tragedies - but I also realize that there are many very decent people in India. And indeed I have been blessed to have known them, had them as friends and colleagues. And I also realize that we have some of our own who are as heartless as you are - urstruly, whose post I read below where he is more interested in the US not getting a good impression in Pakistan with its helicopters than in the fact that US helicopters are saving lives for thousands of Pakistanis. May God bless those US pilots who are working so hard.

This is by far the longest post I have written to you in 6 years. And probably the last time I will ever take the trouble of writing to you. Just dont expect me to engage in civil dialogue with you. You would have to be insane to expect that after your behavior during this crisis, not to mention the past 6 years.

Australia is on high alert for a possible terrorist attack.
Clive Williams, an expert on terrorism who heads Canberra`s Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, said the potential threat revealed yesterday may involve a person who trained with the listed terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Tayyiba in Pakistan.
One of the persons apparently was identified by an American informant as having attended an LET - a Lashkar-e-Tayyiba - camp in Pakistan, and they`ve been talking to others in Melbourne apparently about what sort of targets they could attack.

#332 by Romair

I can totally vouch for Indian liking for fair skin. I mean... whenever I go to these nudee bars here in the U.S. I see many of my brethen hanging around near the dark corners of the walls and totally drooling at the sight of white women. And many of them look totally dazed and lost even without drinking a single bottle of beer. It is indeed a contradiction in Indians that they hate fair colored Pakistanis so much.

re:#334 by Romair
Only the NOrth Indian idiots (some, not all) buy this concept ``only fair can be beautiful``. Not even the Americans buy that now. They see beauty in all colors. Blacks and whites intermarry freely in major cities here. This is my personal view.
Romair says:
(I think they hate us because we are beautiful...)
How can that be when most Indians have not even met any Paki in personal life? This is another myth created by Paki establishment. There are few things that make Pakis feel that are better off, this being one of them (the other myth that 1 Paki= 10 Indians was demolished in 1971).
Most Indians watch Bollywood or some such crap where they regularly see male hunks and female babes, all Indians ofcourse. The news that Pakis are good looking has not filtered thr` May be Romair miyan should go around the country showing his pretty face and wearing a T-shirt that says ``I am a Paki, see how good looking i am``! They will get the message and Romair will get a kick out of all this. He can even return home, that is if he is still alive after all this!
Sridhar

re:#308 by khare
I wish Prophet Md (PBUH) had gone one step further than Abraham and offered his D!ck to God. If he had done that, other followers would have followed suit and the world today would be a much better place.
Sridhar