Bomb Blasts in Delhi

Layman , dude..how am I supposed to know ? I am not my dad`s c.a.....40% was just a guess.

Ranger #422:
``My dad is a government employee...and like other government employees , his tax is deducted at source. Meaning , 40% of his salary is automatically deducted as tax by the income tax department. I dont recall ever suggesting otherwise. ``

Are you sure? No one pays 40% tax in India. The top tax bracket (10 lakh and above) is only 33% (30% + 10% surcharge on the 30%).
Refer http://finance.indiamart.com/taxation/income_tax/rates.html

re: RobinSingh # 424

I do hope you were just kidding. Wouldn`t wish that kind of stupidity even on a stranger.

Doctor Sridhar

Don`t take Ranger`s words too literally. :)

At his age one is entitled to say the craziest things so long as one`s heart is in the right place. His is.

re: Bangalore sucks: big time
The news coming out of Bangalore is depressing. The infrastructure sucks. Infosys chief Narayana Murthy has been fighting a losing battle against politicians there to get the infrastructure in good shape. A lot of people have been speaking about this recently:
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=78475&headline=I~am~ashamed~since~I~belong~to~Bangalore
http://www.flonnet.com/fl2222/stories/20051104002504600.htm
(A study conducted by Solomon Benjamin, a specialist in urban economy and governance with Delphi Private Ltd., reveals a startling picture of lopsided infrastructural development. The data show that infrastructural investment in poor, working class slums in central, west and south Bangalore differed by a factor of 1:40 when compared to Whitefield, an area with a concentration of software companies and large residential layouts. With ``off site investments`` such as dedicated expressways and high-grade services included, the ratio is 1:60.)
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=80780
(It was almost as if the waters have washed away what politicians were using to hide in Bangalore. Set to host delegates from 18 countries for the showcase IT event ‘Bangalore IT.in’ opening on Wednesday, India’s infotech capital floundered in rain water.

For a city whose crumbling infrastructure regularly threatens to fall off the state government radar, the three-day spell of showers couldn’t have come at a worse time: just days after a bruising battle between Congress’s big brother H D Deve Gowda—the chief guest tomorrow—and Infosys chairman N R Narayana Murthy.)
If politicians have their way, Bangalore will soon see investors walk away to other better destinations (Madras, Pune etc). As and when that happens (a matter of time now), the property values that are artificially up will zoom down. Gujjubania`s posh house will be worth the toilet paper i use everyday. Perhaps a little more but i think Gujjubania gets the drift.
Sridhar

Srishar : ``Why are mofukcers like u worried about what is happening in India or to India? Were u not the one who boasted you don`t care about India since u have this posh house in your name somewhere in that hellhole called Bangalore?
Were u not the one who boasted once in Chowk (when u called yourself Gujjubania) that your dad never paid an Income tax? People like u are leeches who suck on other`s blood. I am going to hunt u down in this forum or any other forum until u quit. You mofukicng sonofabitch``

Haha...you are funny. Anyway , just to clarify..I live in a posh house..but its in my dad`s name. Rest as below. But you are funny.

Haha...Shridar ...

1. I never claimed to own a house in my name. Just a plot of land. You are welcome to set up a hut there and stay if you want to.

2. My dad is a government employee...and like other government employees , his tax is deducted at source. Meaning , 40% of his salary is automatically deducted as tax by the income tax department. I dont recall ever suggesting otherwise.

re:#403 by Ranger
(....the biggest threat to the people of India , their freedom and aspirations and ultimately their life comes from you leftists....)
The biggest threat is from people like your dad who is a tax evader. Not even 5% of Indians pay their taxes. Your dad is one of them. That is why India is poor. Not because of some leftists.
sridhar

re:#404 by Ranger
Tut, tut.
Gujjubania,
Is your dad paying his taxes?
Let us first talk about that.
Sridhar

re:#403 by Ranger
Why are mofukcers like u worried about what is happening in India or to India? Were u not the one who boasted you don`t care about India since u have this posh house in your name somewhere in that hellhole called Bangalore?
Were u not the one who boasted once in Chowk (when u called yourself Gujjubania) that your dad never paid an Income tax? People like u are leeches who suck on other`s blood. I am going to hunt u down in this forum or any other forum until u quit. You mofukicng sonofabitch.
sridhar

Re: #416 by Harimau

Of course that would be the right thing to do, but it will never happen.

I wonder what Pakis think of the Haj subsidy. They probably laugh their heads off. They have known for hundreds of years the patient cowlike nature of the average Hindu, and the pseudo-idealist types like Aha_snark.

I would like to see Hindus try to get a government subsidy to visit Mount Kailash.

These fake pseudo-intellectuals would have a fit.

Aha_Snark,

We have tried for 55 years (after the Republic of India was proclaimed) to mollycoddle Muslims. The net result is we have bombs in New Delhi the day before Deepavali. How about a few bombs in Jumma Masjid on Eid? (Pakistanis probably would be doing it in Shia mosques and imambaras.)

How about trying my suggestion for the next 500 years? Ban the Haj pilgrimage, saving tons of money that is being spent on Saudia Airlines. Save the Rs. 150 crore Haj subsidy. If any Muslim so much as says ``Boo``, lock him up for 30 years.

There are these terahertz frequency scanning machines. They see through clothes and everything. So, a pants-drop-down test to check for Muslimness is not necessary most of the time.

No voting rights for Muslims in India. If any Christian wants both the right to convert and reservations, nail him to the cross in a public place so that the Christians will learn to shut up.

Free-fire zone is a valid response in times of war. When the jihadis declare war on India, they should be prepared for the response. After all, all of India is Dar-ul-Harb according to Muslims. Let us show them what a true war zone looks like.

It is weak-kneed hand-wringing Hindus like you who are the bane of India. Did the Muslims try a bomb in Ahmedabad, Gujarat? No, because they know exactly what they will get in return.

Re: # 416

I am suprised by the debate ... which is pretty amussing on the whole, but i am surprised that no one even mentioned a certain train accident in AP. What has that do with the bombing ?.. nothing but one bombing and all the TV channels, all discussion forums , everyone is talking and even receiving mails on terrorism and no thoughts on 123 who die in a train accident which should have been avoided . Even our Pakistani bros slipped a huge opportunity on this one.....God given calamities are one-thing and man-made are another why not discuss all man-made ones together ?

#391 and #383

[A paper that your late father wrote? Oh so that’s the valuable contribution you made in the fight for the repeal of Hudood Ordinance in Pakistan? I don’t see anything here that YOU “personally” did. Please note the operating word here.

My dad never took a rupee as dowry. Is that my contribution to the fight against the evil?

Given the “monumental” sacrifices that you and other expatriate Pakis have made, is it any wonder that the Hudood Ordinance is nowhere close to being repealed?]

This post has a very valuable point. It`s not funny. It is ironic. This interaction highlights the difference between the thought process of an Indian and a Pakistani.

Actions speak louder than words. Your efforts in being a active participant in the relief effort show that you not only talk the talk but also walk the walk.

Re: #413 by Aha_Snark

[Considering that he wants to (systematically) kill all (substantial numbers) Kashmiris (ethnicity/religion/region), my contention is that he`s calling for genocide against Kashmiris. ]


Nope.

In Harimau`s post you cited, he did not say anything about killing off Kashmiris.

Aha_Snark.

Your namesake Shankar the Headshrinker went from being a Paki-loving leftist to a rabid Paki-basher after being strip-searched at every airport between Detroit and Bombay.

I just wonder what you would be like after you are chased by a Muslim mob on Ramzan!

Let me make it clear once and for all: what is sauce for goose is sauce for gander. If Hindus live under the sufference of Muslims in Pakistan (or any other Muslim country), then Muslims must live under the tyrannical heels of the Hindu majority in India and be happy for the crumbs that they get.

As to your statement about the ``secular`` part of the Constitution`s preamble not being amendable by Parliament, I think moving the Supreme Court out of New Delhi to Nagaland (or for that matter, that tourist spot Srinagar) ought to get the court to change its mind.

By the same token, all foreign missionaries in India should be deported, preferably after losing their testicles as a testament to their devotion to Jesus Christ.

Being a Hindu should be the litmus test for every high office in India. That would take care of Manmohan Singh the Neutered, Sonia G@ndu, Raoul G@andu, Priyanka G@ndu Vadera, etc.

All reservations/quotas should be eliminated. Those who claim brain-death as their right to enter colleges and government jobs should be locked up in mental hospitals.

All Leftists ought to be jailed with a 50-year sentence and ought to be assigned to chain gangs cleaning up roads or building the National highway system.

Any more of my views are fully available in my 2000+ posts. Just click on my name, read and enjoy!

Re: #407 by Aha_Snark

[Fair enough. But just to clarify things, exactly what assertion regarding ``genocide in India`` as you call it do you think I have made on this board? Just so I can respond directly to your request for sources.]


How about the following post:

[#23
Re: # 162
re: harimau:
(This is in response to post # 156 )

/// I did expect one of you hand-wringing self-hating Hindus who are sorry they don`t have enough women in their families to be raped by Muslim thugs to come out with some such statement. ///

So. To point out that someone is calling for genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation, and to point out the fact that the author does not find these actions thuggish, means that I`m a hand-wringing self-hating Hindu who`s sorry I don`t have enough women in my family to be raped by Muslim thugs.

How?

///My attitude is: those who don`t like it can haul their butts off to The Land of the Pure carved out for them by Jinnah.///

Of course. Love India ( meaning accept genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation) or Leave India. And with attitudes like that, who could do anything but love India?

///And guys like you can move there too to see what life as a minority in an Islamic country is. ///

Are you saying that India should treat it`s minorities the way (you think that) Islamic countries treat theirs? Or is the reasoning that X Islamic Country treats it`s minorities badly, so genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation is just parity?

Aha_Snark ]



Does this ring a bell? Eh, Snarky?

Re: # 411
re: ajeya:

In post # 407 to you, I said: Just to clarify, exactly what assertion regarding ``genocide in India`` as you call it do you think I have made on this board?

You quoted my post # 274 where I said :

``Of course. Love India ( meaning accept genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation) or Leave India. And with attitudes like that, who could do anything but love India?``

This was a response to Harimau who (after a colourful personal attack on me) had said in post #162 that:

///those who don`t like it can haul their butts off to The Land of the Pure carved out for them by Jinnah. ///

He had said this in response to my post # 156

Where I said that he had advocated:

A) the depopulation of Kashmir
B) the open killing of people in Kashmir (free fire zone)
C) the removal of aid to earthquake victims so they die of cold in the winter

My post was in response to post # 26 where he said : (I`m only quoting parts relevant here)

1) there will be a stop to the reproduction of Kashmiris [after deportation of Kashmiri women under 25] and there will be no Kashmir problem in 26 years after the current crop dies off and there is no replacement.
2) Also, institute a free-fire zone throughout Kashmir.
3) Stop all aid to Kashmir (including Indian side) so that the fcukers can freeze to death this winter.

Now.

What is genocide?

According to Wikipedia , Genocide is the systematic killing of substantial numbers of people on the basis of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, social status or other particularity.

Considering that he wants to (systematically) kill all (substantial numbers) Kashmiris (ethnicity/religion/region), my contention is that he`s calling for genocide against Kashmiris.

Or let`s take the Merriam-Webster definition, which says that genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group.

I`d say that fits as well.

Now that he`s called for genocide, he goes on to say in post #162 that:

///those who don`t like it can haul their butts off to The Land of the Pure carved out for them by Jinnah. ///

To which I replied in post # 274: ``Of course. Love India ( meaning accept genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious segregation) or Leave India. And with attitudes like that, who could do anything but love India?``

Now I admit, harimau didn`t say ``Those who don`t like genocide can haul their butts...``

However, please tell me that if harimau didn`t mean the main thrust of the parent post (post # 26) (to which all the posts were sub-posts) when he said ``Those who don`t like it``, what did he mean?

Please also note that I have repeatedly put questions to harimau in posts 274, 351 and 408. He has been given ample time to rebut the claim that he has called for genocide and has not done so.

Aha_Snark
hoipolloi@gmail.com

faisaluno:

the world is concerned about pak and not about sri lanka is because s.l. conflict though bloody is local and its implicaiton is not worldwide whereas pak is the training ground for internatonal jihad.

Eight killed in Pakistan blast

November 05, 2005 19:10 IST


At least eight people, including a woman and three children, were killed in a blast in a house where suspected foreign terrorists, believed to be Arabs, were making bombs in Pakistan`s North Waziristan tribal region on Saturday.

Officials at Miranshah, the headquarters of the North Waziristan agency, said the blast occurred in a village Moski in Mir Ali, 20 kilometres east of Miran Shah.

However, Army spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan confirmed the death of six people, including a woman.

He said the suspects were busy making an improvised explosive device for terrorist activity when the blast occurred.

Al those killed were foreigners. Locals said they were Arabs who were hiding at the residence of local tribeman Misbahur Rehman. However, their identity has not yet been established.

re:#405 by sri
You are advocating terrorism that will kill more innocent people. I say identify the culprits and go after them, even inside the Paki territorry if need be. I can`t advocate terrorism. That wil put India in the same list as Pak, Iran, Libya etc.
Sridhar

#404 by Ranger

The least India could do is train some individuals who have lost their everything to become suicide bombers. Sychronized attacks in major pakistani cities is a good start... friday prayers perhaps ???

WSJ (Oct 31): Every time India is tested by terror, it characteristically responds by talking tough but doing nothing...Mr. Singh is the latest in a succession of weak, aging prime ministers ... failure to formulate a prudent counterterror strategy backed by firm resolve.

Full Text:
India on the Frontline
Brahma Chellaney. Wall Street Journal Oct 31, 2005. pg. A.17


The Indian capital has faced several major acts of terror since the 1980s, but the serial bombings targeting festival shoppers over the weekend were the deadliest yet, leaving at least 61 dead. Yet India is responding typically to the latest horror -- with brave words that can do little to hide its lack of both a coherent counter-terrorism strategy and the political will to go beyond mere reprobation.

The latest bombings -- crude in their indiscriminate targeting of civilians and sophisticated in their synchronization -- were carried out at the start of Diwali, the country`s main festival holiday, to maximize the effect. Although an obscure underground Kashmir outfit has claimed responsibility, there is widespread suspicion that the attacks were masterminded by Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistan-based, al Qaeda-linked group labeled a terrorist organization by India and the United States. The attacks occurred on the same day that a New Delhi court had been scheduled to sentence six convicted Pakistani members of the Lashkar-e-Taiba and their Indian associates for involvement in a previous terrorist attack.

The bombers have driven home a political message: India, despite its rising international profile, is powerless to stop terror attacks. By audaciously carrying out bombings right under the nose of the Indian government, the terrorists may also be seeking to rattle foreign investors and undermine India`s booming economy. The bombings also have the potential to undercut the credibility of the bureaucrat- turned-prime minister, Manmohan Singh, and constrict his leeway in the ongoing peace process with Pakistan.

Mr. Singh is the latest in a succession of weak, aging prime ministers whose absence of decisive leadership over the years has resulted in the failure to formulate a prudent counterterror strategy backed by firm resolve. Increasingly, terrorism has been treated as a law-and-order issue requiring more policing. To regard terrorism as a law-and-order problem is to do what the terrorists want -- to sap your strength. No amount of security can stop terrorism if the nation is reluctant to go after terrorist cells and networks and those that harbor extremists.

The Indian and U.S. responses to terrorism are a study in contrast. No Americans have been killed by terrorists in the United States since 9/11 because the U.S. military has gone after terrorists overseas. India, in contrast, has suffered its biggest terrorist strikes since 9/11, including attacks on the national Parliament, the Kashmir legislature, the 17th-century Red Fort, three major Hindu temples and several military camps.

Every time India is tested by terror, it characteristically responds by talking tough but doing nothing. New methodology employed by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency`s Office of Terrorism Analysis shows India has the dubious distinction of having the highest number of terrorist incidents.

India has become such a happy hunting ground for terrorists that several major acts of international terror have first been tried out against Indian targets before being replicated in Western democracies. They include attacks on symbols of state authority, midair bombing of a commercial jetliner and coordinated strikes on a city transportation system. In using India as a laboratory, the jihadists have been guided by the logic that if the world`s largest democracy can be shaken, so can others.

For instance, the 1988 Pan Am 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland, replicated the midair bombing over the Atlantic of an Air India commercial flight from Canada in 1985. The same Air India bombing technique was also used in the Libyan-orchestrated attack on a UTA jetliner in 1989, which blew up in midair over the Sahara.

The 1993 Bombay bombings, which targeted India`s financial institutions and left hundreds dead, have served as a model act of mass terror to international jihadists. The Bombay bombings, according to Indian Defense Minister Pranab Mukherjee, were ``eerily similar in modus operandi and targets to 9/11 in their synchronized, serial character and targeting of state and economic symbols.``

Parallels have also emerged between the 1999 hijacking to Kandahar, Afghanistan, of Indian Airlines flight IC-814 and the 9/11 hijackings, including the similar use of box-cutters and the terrorists` knowledge of cockpit systems. Long before the London and Madrid bombings, terrorists had staged coordinated attacks on city trains and buses in India.

Transnational terrorists see India as an easy target because it imposes no costs on them and their sponsors. If any state strikes deals with terrorists, it not only promotes stepped-up terrorism against its own interests but also creates problems for other nations.

A classic case was India`s ignominious surrender, on Dec. 31, 1999, to the demands of hijackers holding passengers aboard an Indian commercial jetliner at Kandahar in Taliban-ruled Afghanistan. In a surrender unparalleled in modern world history, Indian Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh personally chaperoned three jailed terrorists to freedom in a special aircraft. One of the freed terrorists, Ahmed Omar Sheik -- a British citizen of Pakistani descent -- went on to help finance the 9/11 attacks.

For India, the chickens dramatically came home to roost when evidence on the December 2001 attack on parliament revealed the involvement of one of the terrorists hand-delivered in Kandahar -- Masood Azhar, who had formed the Jaish-e-Muhammad group in Pakistan.

What India needs is a concerted, sustained campaign against the forces of terror. But what Prime Minister Singh has offered are only words to comfort the nation. If India fails its latest test, it will only be a matter of time before the terrorists strike again at a place and time of their choice.

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Mr. Chellaney is professor of strategic studies at the privately- funded Center for Policy Research in New Delhi.

Anirudh Shankar...

It may all soung benign and good fun to you , but the biggest threat to the people of India , their freedom and aspirations and ultimately their life comes from you leftists. Every stand , every position taken by you people is directed at stunting India`s economic growth , hurting India`s security , keeping the country in a state of perpetual poverty.

Now that US-India partnership is fast becoming a reality , this is what you commies do >

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CPI-M prevents US aircraft from landing in Kolkata
Kolkata November 03, 2005 2:22:28 PM IST

By Ajitha Menon

Activists of West Bengal`s ruling Communist Party of India (Marxist) on Thursday prevented a US aircraft and its F-16 crew from landing at Kolkata Airport.

Staging a vociferous protest at the airport, the CPI-M demonstratrors forced the air traffic control authorities to relay instructions to the aircraft crew to take off soon after it hit the runway. The aircraft had arrived in Kolkata to participate in the Indo-US air exercises at Kalaikonda from November 7 to 19.

The aircraft had to take off for Bagdogra Airport in North Bengal, where it faced a similar protest from CPI-M activists deployed there. The crew of the plane was not allowed to disembark, and according to the latest information, the aircraft has returned to Kolkata, but the crew is not being allowed to disembark.

The Indian and US Air Force will test their mettle at Kalaikunda in West Bengal at the second Indo-US joint air exercises from November 7-19.

The exercise titled Cope India 05 would see the participation of F-16 fighters jets from the USAF squadron based in Japan and IAF fighters, SU-30K, Mirage-2000, MiG-21 Bison and MiG-27s. The IAF`s tanker fleet, IL-78 will also be deployed at the joint exercises

For the first time, AWACS will take part in the air exercise. The IAF is in the process of inducting AWACS for Beyond Visual Range (BVR) strike capability, and its inclusion in Cope India 05 is being considered significant. The Indo-French joint exercise at the Istres Air Base in France also saw the deployment of the AWACS by the French Air Force.

Sources said that the exercises would include Dissimilar Air Combat Manoeuvring (ACM) and Large Force Engagement (LFE) in the Beyond Visual Range (BVR) regime.

At the previous Indo-US joint exercises in Alaska, IAF pilots had got the better of the US pilots in their MiG-21s.

Officials said that the aim of the joint exercise is to enhance mutual operational understanding and refine procedures for future joint exercises between the two Air Forces and familiarize with each other`s operational, technical and administrative practices. (ANI)

Re: # 403
re: Ranger:

///but the biggest threat to the people of India , their freedom and aspirations and ultimately their life comes from you leftists. Every stand , every position taken by you people is directed at stunting India`s economic growth , hurting India`s security , keeping the country in a state of perpetual poverty. ///

So. The Left is the biggest threat to people`s freedom, aspiration and life.
Every stand and position taken by the Left is directed at ``stunting India`s economic growth , hurting India`s security , keeping the country in a state of perpetual poverty.``

///It may all soung benign and good fun to you///

Actually, it sounds hilarious. Especially the part where you hold me responsible for the Left party`s every action. And even more funny, expect me to spring to it`s defense no matter what. Let me be clear. If the Left does something that I think is bad, I will never defend it`s actions. If I think it`s actions are worthy of lampoonery, I will go ahead and lampoon them - as I have done.

Aha_Snark
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#401, Cumkhwa,
Are you ready to confess? If not, then shut up and listen to the advice concerning your uti.

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#396 by Kulharee, Circumcision

Some facts and my opinion:

In some cases, especially in Japanese kids, it becomes necessary to do this on neonates to avoid uti (urinary tract infections) and other problems. But, otherwise, overall data does not appear to be in favor of having circumcision. Yes, it may reduce the risk of penile cancer, but it is true for any organ. It does not mean that we should get rid of all the organs that have potential to develop cancer. This is an extremely rare form of cancer and happens to old people. People thought prepuce was unnecessary …like appendix and tonsils …so thought it was an easy remedy. But, not so with this piece of tissue. It has many functions such as sensory , sex and, mainly protection: all exposed pores in the body are covered in some way to keep pathogens and other dirt getting in and causing inflammation. It may be hair, skin or some valve like function that keeps it closed. However, humans and animals are expected to keep those clean. Evolution has kept the species that follow these rules and others sooner or later become extinct. I firmly believe that nature has selected right things and will keep selecting based on changing environment. These quick fixes, most of the time …not always .. are unnecessary and may not be advantageous, expect in certain special cases.
P.S. I am not a physician …just a biochemist/molecular biologist who has more than average distrust in modern doctors.

Re: # 399

``Yes, it may reduce the risk of penile cancer, but it is true for any organ. It does not mean that we should get rid of all the organs that have potential to develop cancer.``

Removing prepuce to lessen the risk of penile cancer is not the same as removing an organ (e.g. breast) to prevent it from going cancerous. Apparently (although as is its wont, medical thinking may have changed on this) it is the smegma (the concentrated secretions) that accumulate under the foreskin that act as carcingenic, and not the foreskin per se. So, keeping it clean maybe an effective and painless alternative!

#381, sri {``#381 by sri on November 2, 2005 6:15pm PT
I can totally vouch for Indian liking for fair skin. I mean... whenever I go to these nudee bars here in the U.S. I see many of my brethen hanging around near the dark corners of the walls and totally drooling at the sight of white women. And many of them look totally dazed and lost even without drinking a single bottle of beer.``}

Sri,
I think that I qualify as an SME on this issue - subject matter expert. :)

If you looked for a longer amount of time, you would notice that the same brethren were totally drooling at the sight of black women, oriental women, latino women, and bald women. Let me put it another way, they were not drooling over the skin - well at least most of it.

What are you doing gazing at the brethren? You should be drooling over the sistren.

Anyway, just thought that I would BROADen your horizons.

Harish #391 {``My dad never took a rupee as dowry. Is that my contribution to the fight against the evil? ``}

Harry,
That was funny. LOL. :)

harish 391,

Number 3 man of alquida was found by the americans in the house of an army major. One can easily guess the rank of the person in whose house osama could be found. It is remarkable no high ranking alquida men were found in the so called border regions, all were found by the americans in pak cities and arrested by the pak police.

Only good aspect is that the CIA is operating freely in pakistan and they openly are recruiting ex ISI men as agents.

There are good signs for pakistan, americans are micro managing the pak police, but the likely hood of a bearded general taking over pakistan has increased considerably.

Ref Aha_Snark #387

[re: Ranger:

You forgot the general strike demanding the forced nationalisation of everyone`s kidneys. And the ``nationwide`` (i.e., West Bengal, Tripura & Kerala) strike calling for the words Lal Salaam to prefix and suffix every sentence. And a countrywide agitation calling for Party workers to be invited to all the nice birthday parties. Oh, and they get extra cake.]

During the recent All-India strike called by your Marxist friends, the crowd of strikers stopped a car in Kolkata. The woman who came storming out of the car was none other than Buddhadeb Bhattacharya`s wife who demanded to know how they dared stop HER car. The leader of the crowd abjectly apologized and the crowd parted so that she could proceed on her way.

In years past, in the same Calcutta, if you dared drive your car when a general strike was called, you were likely to be beaten to death. Why didn`t you Commie mufukkas beat up Buddhadeb`s wife?

How many people have died because they couldn`t get to a hospital because of the strike? Why does the top Commie`s wife deserve special treatment?

Yep, some animals are more equal than other animals.

Re: # 392
re: harimau:

Just to clarify my position on this, party workers enforcing bandhs or strikes by force is reprehensible. So, yes, I`ll come out and state it clearly: What Left party workers did in Calcutta - obstruct people from going about their work and attending to their needs - is wrong and indefensible.

By the way, just wanted to ask: I put several questions to you in post 274 and in post 351 . You have not answered them as yet.

Re: # 392

``In years past, in the same Calcutta, if you dared drive your car when a general strike was called, you were likely to be beaten to death. Why didn`t you Commie mufukkas beat up Buddhadeb`s wife? ``

the same thing happened in mumbai, whereas the entire city was stinking because the municipal workers were on strike, a ``special`` truck took care of the garbage from the ``leaders`` house.

#383 by tahmed32

[For 6 years you have done nothing but talk about honor killings in Pakistan, and express your hatred for Pakistan itself and for muslims.]

Please show us one post in which Jay has expressed his hatred for ALL Muslims? Or are you cleverly trying to use this longish post to peddle a blatant lie?

[My late father wrote a paper that was used in the Lahore High Court to challenge the hadood ordinance. And after he died, I have given it to Pakistanis who continue to fight for the repeal of this ordinance.]

A paper that your late father wrote? Oh so that’s the valuable contribution you made in the fight for the repeal of Hudood Ordinance in Pakistan? I don’t see anything here that YOU “personally” did. Please note the operating word here.

My dad never took a rupee as dowry. Is that my contribution to the fight against the evil?

Given the “monumental” sacrifices that you and other expatriate Pakis have made, is it any wonder that the Hudood Ordinance is nowhere close to being repealed?

[You think your behavior will cause Pakistanis to develop hatred for India?]

You don’t have to mull over what is a given. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t see the proliferation of chanda boxes at every street corner, and millions of dollars contributed to the fight against the infidel Hindu Army in Indian Kashmir.

Fess it up, there is widespread support for Islamic terrorists. Or you wouldn’t see a top-ranking Al Qaeda activist being smoked out of an army officer’s house in Rawalpindi, or another, an African who can in no way remain anonymous in Pakistan, being caught from downtown Faisalabad.

re: #381 by sri

[I can totally vouch for Indian liking for fair skin. I mean... whenever I go to these nudee bars here in the U.S. I see many of my brethen hanging around near the dark corners of the walls and totally drooling at the sight of white women. ]



Ah, so your brethren are totally drooling over these women.

And you are doing what - discussing quantum mechanics with these women?

Re: #381 by sri


[I can totally vouch for Indian liking for fair skin. I mean... whenever I go to these nudee bars here in the U.S. I see many of my brethen hanging around near the dark corners of the walls and totally drooling at the sight of white women. And many of them look totally dazed and lost even without drinking a single bottle of beer. It is indeed a contradiction in Indians that they hate fair colored Pakistanis so much. ]


There`s absolutely nothing wrong with anyone preferring fairer skin. It`s a free world, and you can like what you want. For example, most Whites prefer relatively fairer skin and blonder Scandinavian hair. They even dye their hair to imitate it. Nobody gives it a second thought. It`s considered an attribute of beauty, nothing more.

So get rid of your hangups, and get a life.

Re: #343 by Aha_Snark


[Fascism and hate speech on this board will never be defeated by chowk staff. It will never be defeated by, as you say, ``holding your nose in front of the sewer``. It will be defeated if and only if ordinary chowkies do not indulge in violent speech, do provide sources to back up critical assertions, and do, quietly but determinedly oppose hate speech when they see it. ]



So you DO like to provide sources to back up critical assertions, eh, Snarky?

Then provide us with the sources to back up your assertions about genocide in India (before you do, check out the definition for genocide somewhere, just in case).

And after you are done, I`ll provide you some examples of genocide by your friends in the ummah-hood across the border about which I don`t see you getting too upset about.

But first, your turn.

Re: # 388
re: Ranger:

Fair enough. But just to clarify things, exactly what assertion regarding ``genocide in India`` as you call it do you think I have made on this board? Just so I can respond directly to your request for sources.

Aha_Snark

``Islamic militant group Jaish-i-Mohammed immediately claimed responsibility for the bombing in telephone calls to a local news agency.

“The car bomb is our first gift to Ghulam Nabi Azad (occupied Kasmir’s incoming chief minister),” Abu Qudama, spokesman for the Jaish-i-Mohammed, told the Kashmir News Service.``

Jaish mohammed is an organisation supported by pak society, and and based in POK, and let teh world decide on help for teh quake victims.

``But you think I would discuss these things with you?? A man for whom the death of 70,000 people is something to be joyful about? You have to be truly insane to think I would have anything to do with you. And a truly shameless individual.``

The above quote is from tahmed.

When a natiral calamity hit pakistan and 70,000 killed, a man released from an indian porison following hijacking has calimed responsibility for a suicide bambing of 10 in India.

Pak society hailed him, ashgar a hero and he formed, he is supported by the pak govt. Tahmed, a deliberate act of Asghar suppoeted by the pak society, and no one, not even a single pakistani, has admitted to the pak govt support for terrorism.

It has to be said, death in pakistan become statistics for most of the world as seen by the world response.

tahmed, 383,

You have completely missed the point. I do not mince words, I am critical even abhores pak society, and the society is not the individuals that interact on chowk. SWociety is an average, every one is an exception to it, you and urstruly. But the average of pak society is represented by the institutions of pakistan, the legal system in my posts.

You and may be all of interactors on chowk are against hoodood, I have no doubts about it, but the collective pak society is in full support of it.

When you and the other educated of pakistan say that hoodood is because of Zia, you are not assuming responsibility. You could as well say that hoodood represent the pak value system and that is why no one has dared to make an iota of change to what Zia did. That shows the visionary nature of Zia, he knew the pulse of teh pakistanis.

So please, I have no disagreement with you as an individual as far as your personal values are concerned, but when you try to call me names when I tell the truth about pak society, pl do join in.

Let me give you an example how social vlues can be changed, how the laws can be changed form a case in Kerala. female foeticide is comoon. About 10 years ago they criminalised the sex identification, a few doctiors were prosecuted, following which doctors stopped the practice. Then came some para medicals performing the function. Now the ultrasound machine cannot be sold to none other than a doctor.

The changes happened because of people like me, I did not talk about my belief, if female foeticide is taking place, it has to be stopped and laws will be changed to achive that.

Now take the case of honour killing, no one has ever said on chowk that it is the hoodood that has legalised it and now honour killings are on the increase.

So tahmed, do not take it personal, help to change the society, and talk of hoodood, it has nothing much to do with Zia, he only implemented what most pakistanis wanted.

The same is taking plavce in Malaysia, they also have introduced hoodood

Jay: I said I would give you the rest of the day to re-think your response to my simple question about whether you were for or against dowry burnings in India. This is all you had to say: ``The indian society is against bride burning and that is why it is illegal to kill any one including brides.``

You chose to give this evasive answer, when I had said all I wanted was a simple yes or no. Despite encouragements from Netizen and Salim to give a simple yes, you chose to sit on your moral pedestal and stick to this evasive response.

For 6 years you have done nothing but talk about honor killings in Pakistan, and express your hatred for Pakistan itself and for muslims. During this terrible time when over 70,000 people have been killed in the earthquake, you have been writing posts gleefully writing about what in your demented mind you consider to be humiliation for Pakistan. And never a peep out of you when it comes to anything in India in all these years. You are no mere cheapster from indian streets who can only throw abuse (of the kind gujjubania has been writing) in attempts to intimidate (and no, i dont let abuse from the safety of the internet by lowlife bother me). You on the other hand are a mature man, a member of the India NRI who has worked for international agencies. Shame on you for your inhuman behavior at this time. And shame on you for the irresponsible manner in which you have sought to turn chowk on its head - a place for Indian-Pakistani mudslinging rather than one for building bridges. Bridges badly needed by the millions of poverty stricken people in both countries. Not that you are capable of shame.

I would gladly discuss any of Pakistan`s problems with anyone. All countries have problems - you jump at the fact that someone shot at a US helicopter?? there were nuts in New Orleans who were shooting at helicopters. No sane man would consider this to be a reason to claim that this says something about all of Pakistan. You lecture me on the hadood ordinances?? My late father wrote a paper that was used in the Lahore High Court to challenge the hadood ordinance. And after he died, I have given it to Pakistanis who continue to fight for the repeal of this ordinance. But you think I would discuss these things with you?? A man for whom the death of 70,000 people is something to be joyful about? You have to be truly insane to think I would have anything to do with you. And a truly shameless individual.

You think your behavior will cause Pakistanis to develop hatred for India? Dont count on that either. While I am shocked at some of the behavior by individuals on chowk (as any normal person would be) who laugh at real life tragedies - but I also realize that there are many very decent people in India. And indeed I have been blessed to have known them, had them as friends and colleagues. And I also realize that we have some of our own who are as heartless as you are - urstruly, whose post I read below where he is more interested in the US not getting a good impression in Pakistan with its helicopters than in the fact that US helicopters are saving lives for thousands of Pakistanis. May God bless those US pilots who are working so hard.

This is by far the longest post I have written to you in 6 years. And probably the last time I will ever take the trouble of writing to you. Just dont expect me to engage in civil dialogue with you. You would have to be insane to expect that after your behavior during this crisis, not to mention the past 6 years.

Australia is on high alert for a possible terrorist attack.
Clive Williams, an expert on terrorism who heads Canberra`s Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, said the potential threat revealed yesterday may involve a person who trained with the listed terrorist organisation Lashkar-e-Tayyiba in Pakistan.
One of the persons apparently was identified by an American informant as having attended an LET - a Lashkar-e-Tayyiba - camp in Pakistan, and they`ve been talking to others in Melbourne apparently about what sort of targets they could attack.

#332 by Romair

I can totally vouch for Indian liking for fair skin. I mean... whenever I go to these nudee bars here in the U.S. I see many of my brethen hanging around near the dark corners of the walls and totally drooling at the sight of white women. And many of them look totally dazed and lost even without drinking a single bottle of beer. It is indeed a contradiction in Indians that they hate fair colored Pakistanis so much.

re:#334 by Romair
Only the NOrth Indian idiots (some, not all) buy this concept ``only fair can be beautiful``. Not even the Americans buy that now. They see beauty in all colors. Blacks and whites intermarry freely in major cities here. This is my personal view.
Romair says:
(I think they hate us because we are beautiful...)
How can that be when most Indians have not even met any Paki in personal life? This is another myth created by Paki establishment. There are few things that make Pakis feel that are better off, this being one of them (the other myth that 1 Paki= 10 Indians was demolished in 1971).
Most Indians watch Bollywood or some such crap where they regularly see male hunks and female babes, all Indians ofcourse. The news that Pakis are good looking has not filtered thr` May be Romair miyan should go around the country showing his pretty face and wearing a T-shirt that says ``I am a Paki, see how good looking i am``! They will get the message and Romair will get a kick out of all this. He can even return home, that is if he is still alive after all this!
Sridhar

re:#308 by khare
I wish Prophet Md (PBUH) had gone one step further than Abraham and offered his D!ck to God. If he had done that, other followers would have followed suit and the world today would be a much better place.
Sridhar

re:#294 by khare
Interesting debate on circumcision. Studies have shown that circumcised newborn babies have less UTI (urinary tract infection) rates that the ones not circumcised. I do not recall any other clear medical advantage. AFAIK, majority of christians in USA have their newborn babies circumcised before discharge from the hospital. No religious compulsion but it is still widely practised.
Sridhar

Re: # 377

Studies have shown that circumcision has a protective effect against penile cancer. I am not sure if it protects against uti.

Re: # 395

And what is the rate of Penile cancer among helmet heads, vs the boys in the hood? According to a study, there are more deaths by Circumcision than as a reslt of penile cancer. What do you have to say to that?

A room for Tanweer,

The master mind of the london bombing is back home, not the country of his birth or citizenship, but a country that created the force behind his life, brought home not by his pakistani father, but by his UK citizen father, as approved and supported by musheraff, the president of pakistan that banished pak citizens, like Bhutto from her country.

Pakistan is about ideology, it is about propogating its founding values. Bhumian Budhas survived a few thousand years, survived the pak heros of Ghouri and Gaznavi, but did not survive the pak ideology of TNT, Taliban created by the pak madrasas as modified by TNT ideology blasted the statues from the face of the earth.

Now the pak society has created a lasting monument to replace it, the memorial for Tanweer, and now the laskers want all of the london bombers brought home.

To tahmed, do not worry about personal opinions, tell me whether you have an alternate exp[lantion for why Tanweer is a hero in pakistan, why did musheraff let him in, his dead body.

Let us talk about ideas, and refrain from calling names, and personel remarks.

Re: # 376 jay
``To tahmed, do not worry about personal opinions, tell me whether you have an alternate exp[lantion for why Tanweer is a hero in pakistan, why did musheraff let him in, his dead body``

You are expecting too much of intelligence and civility from thamed. All he can do is shout monkey,monkey, hindutva monkey and accuse you of supporting dowry killings and abortions.
mullahs like him dont need brains to get by, all they need to do is read one book and everything they need to know is right there, including hating kaafirs like you.

#374, Netizen {``its opposite, khote pronounced ``khoTay`` which means false is also a marathi last name``}

Neti,
So it would be linguistically correct and morally ``kharey`` to refer to Captain Clueless as ``Mr. Khotay`` when he is making false statements? :)

#278: ``He rebelled against the concept of ``chosen people`` and said that the covenant between Abraham and God applied to Muslims as well.``

Thank you DM ji. Is it true Bhindrawale started the circumcision of Khalsas along the same line of thought? Since it was done with a Khundi Kirpan, I have heard many followers were traumatized for life beyond repair.

#366, Khair sahib, {``Well, it should be shab-ba-Khair and not be-Khair. The latter means WITHOUT peace/safety``}

As pointed out by our good friend, M31, sometimes a single letter, forget one word, just one letter can change the meaning of what we are saying. Imagine telling a loved one to have a night WITHOUT safety!

{``#368 by emthree1 on November 2, 2005 1:07pm PT
Re: # 364
``Also, khare also means ``safe, care`` as in Shab-be-Khair (good night, or night with care)``
Well, it should be shab-ba-Khair and not be-Khair. The latter means WITHOUT peace/safety.``}


M31,
Ha HA LOL. You are right - thank you for correcting this unintentional faux pas. Kind of defeats the purpose of the greeting, don`t you think? :)

#366, khare {``BTW, I worked with real bugs for a long time, although I am not an entomologist (not an entymologist either) ... bad caterpillars... gypsy moths, if you have heard of them. But, my present focus of research is on smaller bugs like fungi and bacteria.``}

Kharey Janaab,
As you can tell, your takhallus is khare. :)

I am quite interested in your esteemed occupation. I have known a few gypsy moths on Chowk - they try to tell your fortune and then take you for a ride. Seriiously, speaking of bugs, I would like you to examine a few recti under a powerful microscope. Please tell us what is ailing Tahmed, Romair, Hamidm, Temporal, Scout, Saminasha, Zeena, Atif, and Khamkhwa.

A single word, as you so correctly stated, can lead to so much trouble. Also, two bugs can lead to a lot of trouble. That is why I have this composite profession that I refer to as ``entymologist.`` It combines the knowledge of an etymologist with the patience and focus of an entomologist for the best results. Here on Chowk, certain words perfomr the function of minute bugs. For example, just say something irritating to some Chowkies and they behave as if a certain bug crawled up their ass. :)

Now, do you see the need for entymologists? :)

#366, khare {``BTW, I worked with real bugs for a long time, although I am not an entomologist (not an entymologist either) ... bad caterpillars... gypsy moths, if you have heard of them. But, my present focus of research is on smaller bugs like fungi and bacteria.``}

Kharey Janaab,
As you can tell, your takhallus is khare. :)

I am quite interested in your esteemed occupation. I have known a few gypsy moths on Chowk - they try to tell your fortune and then take you for a ride. Seriiously, speaking of bugs, I would like you to examine a few recti under a powerful microscope. Please tell us what is ailing Tahmed, Romair, Hamidm, Temporal, Scout, Saminasha, Zeena, Atif, and Khamkhwa.

A single word, as you so correctly stated, can lead to so much trouble. Also, two bugs can lead to a lot of trouble. That is why I have this composite profession that I refer to as ``entymologist.`` It combines the knowledge of an etymologist with the patience and focus of an entomologist for the best results. Here on Chowk, certain words perfomr the function of minute bugs. For example, just say something irritating to some Chowkies and they behave as if a certain bug crawled up their ass. :)

Now, do you see the need for entymologists? :)

#363, Khare {``What is Takhallus? ``}

Takhallus is a pseudonym or nom de guerre or title as in Chacha Buttees, Captain Clueless, Mullah-e-Chowk, etc..

#364 by Salim_Chauhan

Thanks for the explanations. But, you missed the main word ..takhallus. Is it from the word tallukat ..or something like that... which means realtionship. People use it in situations like saying: what has that got to do with the subject on discussion. (Actually, this question is relevant to chowk discussions much too often).
Thanks for giving other meanings. Funny ...khare (true) in my language can mean khota in some other language. Living on border of several languages, I have seen many battles and even wars because one did not understand nuances of dialects/languages of the other.

BTW, I worked with real bugs for a long time, although I am not an entomologist (not an entymologist either) ... bad caterpillars... gypsy moths, if you have heard of them. But, my present focus of research is on smaller bugs like fungi and bacteria.

Kulharee....comparing your descriptions of ``what is circumcision`` with my extenstive study of scientific and medical videos, DVDs and internet over the years I conclude that someone did not do a good job on your sunnTaN...remember as a kid when you insisted on doing something like insisting your mother slap your elder brother for bullying you....remember what mom did? she pretended to slap your brother making big noise by slapping her own hands together making you believe that she really did slap him and hence making you happy...guess what I think your sunnTaN were also like that...Abbu got the local nayee and they pretended they did your sunnTaN but actually did not...properly circumcised intruments don`t have high necks to roll up.
Welcome to the fold brother...you have been a kafir all this time.:-)

#363, Khare {``Well, in my language (colloquial dialect), khare means ``true``. It rhymes with the expression ``Arrey``... like in.. arre yaar, kahan ja rahe ho.. ``}

Thank you Sach Sahib,
Yes, khare (kharey) is ``truth`` or as I understand ``raw`` or ``direct.`` or ``blunt`` depending on how it is used. Thank you for clarifying that.

Yes, you guessed right. If you say Khair (shymes with hare), it is like saying ``no matter,`` ``Fogget about it,`` ``Never mind,`` or ``let it be.``

Also, khare also means ``safe, care`` as in Shab-be-Khair (good night, or night with care)

Then khar or Khur (rhymes with her) means donkey in Farsi or khota in Punjabi or gadha in Urdu/Hindustani.

Language is so much fun. That is why I am an amateur entymologist - I love digging up dung beetles of a linguistic kind.

Re: # 364

``Also, khare also means ``safe, care`` as in Shab-be-Khair (good night, or night with care)``



Well, it should be shab-ba-Khair and not be-Khair. The latter means WITHOUT peace/safety.

#360 by Salim_Chauhan

....I need to ask for the proper way to pronounce your takhallus. ...

Salim, you will need to explain quite a few words from your message. What is Takhallus? What is equivalent of ``anyway``, take care (you mean Khair?). Others I did not get at all.

I gave an idea somewhere that I am from South India. However, come from a place where Dakhani Urdu is spoken..somewaht like Hyderabadi.. But, still some of the north Hindustani/Urdu words go over my head.
Well, in my language (colloquial dialect), khare means ``true``. It rhymes with the expression ``Arrey``... like in.. arre yaar, kahan ja rahe ho..

Re: # 363

``Well, in my language (colloquial dialect), khare means ``true``. It rhymes with the expression ``Arrey``... like in.. arre yaar, kahan ja rahe ho.. ``

thats how i was pronouncing it all along until i read chauhan`s posts about it being pronounce khair (any way) which also is correct.

maybe because i am from mumbai and in marathi khare (pronounced ``KharRay``) means truth, which is quite a common last name of some marathis.

its opposite, khote pronounced ``khoTay`` which means false is also a marathi last name.

Urstruly #284

`` I don`t understand why on God`s green earth we needed American help in the disaster area in the first place. Americans are a big liability and a security risk for Pakistan. Valuable resources, which could be used to help quake victims has been reserved to just provide security to these people. According to a news report Americans have established their camp in the center of Muzaffarabad and no human being is allowed to tresspass with in one mile radius of this area. How many security personnel would be required to maintain this perimeter? Just imagine the inconvinience this would have been causing to the local survivors and rescue workers. I think Americans have made their public relations point that they are a benevolent nation. Thank you very much. Now go home. ``

You need American transport helicopters. The fuel to operate these choppers are paid for American taxpayers. Pakistani Army has 550,000 soldiers. 1000 soldiers for security perimeters are not going to hurt relief efforts. You need to secure helicopter landing areas to manage crowds.

#356, Khare.

I am sorry but I need to ask for the proper way to pronounce your takhallus.
I can think of the following:

1. Khare - as in ``take care``
2. Khare - as in ``any way`` or ``doesn`t matter``
3. Khare - kharey, as in ``raw`` ``strict`` ``sour``
4. Khare - as in Khur-e-Chowk or Chowk da Khota

Please advise.

#356, khare {``#356 by khare on November 2, 2005 11:55am PT
#323 by Kulharee
.....Islam is a gender-blind and race-blind religion. .....
..we have made one better than other...a man can marry 4 wives, but not the reverse ... you can enter any time and whichever way you want to, she is like a field .. she should be willing...hindu...desi...color...``}

Khare, Anyway, TaKe Care,

Stop! Stop! Enough. You win. I think that the Axeman should modify his comment to:

``Islam is a blind religion. `` or better yet ``Islam is a religion for the blind.``

Re: # 359

Chauhan Sahib, I stand by what I said. It is all in the interpretation and translations. Islam started in male chauvinist societies of the 7th century Arabia, and whatever was the wisdom of that time was considered to be the word of Allah – including the stuff about 4 wives. It is now two thousand years later, and some of the stuff is no longer applicable, nor is it valid anymore. As my Rabbi tells me that you can wave your Lantern all you want, but if there is no light (lit wax thread) inside, it makes no difference and it has no affect. It is Molvi’s Islam that is like a Lantern without light (Laltane bin Batee).

You may have your own Islam, but mine is somewhat different from your regular Islam, and mine is not blind.

Romair #332

`` I think they hate us because we are beautiful (in comparison to them, though not in comparison to Australians and Norwegians and Canadians or Greeks). I was highly impressed by the following article on BBC, which solidified my theory, even furthur: ``

If fairness was criterion was beauty Indians must hate Europeans. That is not the case, Maybe that is why Pakistanis hate the Western World ?

#323 by Kulharee

.....Islam is a gender-blind and race-blind religion. .....

Wow... I am learning new things. What are those suras that say regarding males ..we have made one better than other...a man can marry 4 wives, but not the reverse ... you can enter any time and whichever way you want to, she is like a field .. she should be willing and ready to satisfy at any time ... and numerous others that clearly differentiate between males and females. These are right in Quran and not hadiths or sunnah. How can these be justified if one has to proclaim that Islam is gender-blind?

As for race, the Quran states clearly that the difference between a muslim and a non muslim is as great as heaven and earth. If it is Hindu in question, then it is heaven and dingeon, hell. Apart from the religion, it may be true, although I do not see it practiced in real life ...at least in south India. They are like any desi...color of the skin, economic status, family origin, what work one does for living (i.e., shudra equivalant for Hindus) are all very important in developing interactions such as marriage.

Romair #344, {``I think you may have me confused also. I prefer Ben Gay. Perparation G (or H) is not my style........

In any case, what are your views about the theory, jointly presented, by myself and Prof Bharat of Tata Institute............``}

Romair Bhai,
If you prefer Ben Gay over Preparations E, F, G, and H, are you in trouble? Your howling and screaming all over chowk will increase several times AFTER application of the ``ointment of love.`` You may want to taste Ben Gay before applying it to the tender area.

As for your whitewashing proposal, whether a joint venture or a fully owned enterprise of your own, I salute you in presenting this theory. When it comes to bleaching or whitewashing, or plain blanking or blanketing, there is no one more qualified and experienced on Chowk than you, My Captain.

Romair.....whatever you say genius.

Aniruddh Shankar..whats up !! Read in the newspaper that you commies are planning 2 back to back general strikes....one to protest against the joint exercises held by the air forces of US and India and the other to force India to vote in favor of Iraq having the nuke option........bet you are gonna participate as well huh ?

Re: # 353
re: Ranger:

You forgot the general strike demanding the forced nationalisation of everyone`s kidneys. And the ``nationwide`` (i.e., West Bengal, Tripura & Kerala) strike calling for the words Lal Salaam to prefix and suffix every sentence. And a countrywide agitation calling for Party workers to be invited to all the nice birthday parties. Oh, and they get extra cake.

Aha_Snark

Ranger #346: ``be a man and post your own photo so that it can be analysed at length by the folks here. It would certainly throw a better insight than any of your silly lenghty never ending posts on how and why pakis are fairer or whatever than Indians.``

You seem to have taken an innocent scientific study to be something personal.......

Don`t worry. I don`t claim to be the next Brad Pitt. If I post my pic up here, it will scare the hell out of everyone. People will stop visiting Chowk. I am almost as ugly as the next South Asian. And I am not stating that Pakistanis are more, ``whatever`` than Indians. They are not more whatever. They are only fairer. Nothing more, nothing less. I am simply trying to get to the bottom of this hatred that exists amongst our Indian colleagues for Pakistanis.

And I am using the research of Indian professors and companies to reach a conclusion. So forget about me. What are your views about Prof Bharat`s comments? As well as the market research carried out by the Indian company.........

do you need a day to mull over the questions asked of you tahmed chachu ? No problem. Take your time.

tahmed chachy , do you categorically deny that you pimp your wife for money ?

tahmed chachu...you claim that your wife is not a whore ? are you sure ?

Ranger aka avenger aka gujjubania aka prashant the programmer: the answer is no. how about your smelly, single-toe chappal wearing madrasi mom? no dont tell me - your chowk persona already provides me the answer.

btw, you were already a working programmer with wipro when you joined chowk a few years ago - i see you have grown younger since then and are now a schoolboy. another few years and i will become your grandchachu, no doubt.

Romair...be a man and post your own photo so that it can be analysed at length by the folks here. It would certainly throw a better insight than any of your silly lenghty never ending posts on how and why pakis are fairer or whatever than Indians.

#332 by Romair on November 2, 2005 10:22am PT


Over time, I have tried to figure out why our Indian colleagues on this site, dislike the Pakistanis so much. Dislike being too mild a word.


For the same reason people in the US hate Iran/Osama etc....you`all are terrorist supporting islamic fundamentalists....and you`re giving people from the Indian subcontinent a bad name with your involvement in terrorist activities in the US and UK..

It`s the Islamic terrorism, stupid....

Salim_Chauhan #339: `` understand that you are the model boy for the new Preparation G cream. I can just hear you howling and screaming all over Chowk until........``

Don`t shoot the messenger. I didn`t make the ad. I think the matching name was a pure coincidence. I don`t think they were talking about you. To the best of my knowledge you have never been in such an ad........

I think you may have me confused also. I prefer Ben Gay. Perparation G (or H) is not my style........

In any case, what are your views about the theory, jointly presented, by myself and Prof Bharat of Tata Institute............

Do you pimp your wife for money tahmed chachu ? answer in simple yes or no. And dont take a whole day to do it. Thanks in advance.

Ranger #336: ``its either a lame attempt at humor on your part , or you are just stupid.
.....If true , that would mean Indians are fairer than Pakis.......coz Indians are obviously superior , more powerful , influential........``

It is quite possible that I am stupid. So I will not debate that part with you. But my interests in this subject are purely scientific........Based on that, your comment does not hold up. Indians may be many things, in comparison to Pakistanis. But they certainly aren`t fairer. Even our darky Muhajirs from Karachi and Hyderabad, Sind are fairer than most Indians......

Secondly, I am pointing to the research from Prof Shallini Bharat, a socio-psychologist with the Tata Institute of Social Sciences. I was more than shocked to discover that an illustrious Indian researcher, like Prof. Bharat (the guy is named after the country) had reached the same conclusions, as I. Not to mention, an up and coming successful Indian company`s market research, furthur proving my point.......

Now my wife studied a lot of