Bomb Blasts in Delhi

India should continue engaging the Pakistani people. It is the best course of action for Indians and Pakistanis. Disengagement with so much baggage off the past, can cause very rapid enmity between the two countries. Keep this engagement going for anothr 5-10 o years, the disparity in livelhood of Indian citizens and the country itself vis-a-vis Pakistan will become vast during this time. Governance malaise happens even in dictatorships, it will happen in Pakistan. Allah ain`t got siht on globalization.

Re: # 69

``India needs to warn the Paki establishment in no uncertain terms that it has to dismantle these terrorists or else...``

And here`s Pakistan`s response:

``Or Else``!!! Oh, yeah...watcha gonna do...punk...go ahead, make my day!

Before indians here reflexively attack pakistan they have to realize that Mushy for all his faults has been a target of assassination by rogue elements within military & the isi.

The various insurgencies in india more or less confine their activities to their particular provinces. It`s only since the Bombay blasts has india experienced urban terrorism.

WHOEVER did this should be tracked down and hung by their Bal_s.

There is no reason to believe that Pakistan or any part of its Establishment

could benefit in any way from this criminal act. People are too busy these

days looking for bodies to bury and sheltering the 3 plus million suddenly homeless.

Me thinks that somebody wanted to prevent the opening of the LOC...

Who that somebody is being speculated on here.

India and Pakistan need to learn to get along.

Some people want to prevent that. They are not interested in any peace.

But I do think that Indians are too quick to blame Pakistanis here and should look

within their own for answers first.


Ras

hamidm #64: ``however, over the years, the disease has corrupted the soul of large segments of society to the point were it is not unusual to hear students from las, aitchison and lums talk like flaming jihadis``

I don`t think this is true. You are greatly exagerating. And there is a reason for it. Everyone has something or someone that turns them off. And they tend to concentrate on it. For example, when I see George Bush, I get extremely concerned. Even when he is announcing help for Pakistan, my first reaction is of concern. Much like even if you see some maulvi providing help to a patient, your first reaction will be of concern........

I have been arguing for a long time on this site, and will continue to argue that Pakistan, at its core, is not Taliban. Much of that is the creation of the English press. Out of the statements of 350 MNAs, they will chose the one who says something ridiculous, based on religion. You tend to do the same........

This is not to say that there isn`t and wasn`t a problem. But it isn`t and wasn`t nearly as big as anything people project. I always stated, when Hoodbhoy wrote its articles on Tablinisation of Pakistan, that it would never happen. And it didn`t. The Taliban are gone. And Pakistan is still there........

Similarly, the hoopla of madrassahs is something that has always been given far too much prominence. Poor Pakistanis send their kids to madrassahs, because the govt. doesn`t provide them with any other options. There was a detailed scientific study at LUMS, which highlighted how exagerated the information on madrassahs happens to be........

Similarly, maulvis haven`t really gained any more political power than before. They won 11% this time around also. And lost in the last local elections........

In fact, there have only been two events, which have resulted in spikes of MMA type popularity in Pakistan. The first was the original Afghan jihad, during which, with the blessings of the USA (and Saudi Arabia), Pakistan turned itself into a mujahideen factory. And the second was the recent bombing of Afghanistan by the USA, after which the MMA won so many seats, in areas from which it could not ever win more than 2% of the seats......

I don`t think the USA has any more plans of bombing or fighting in Afghanistan. So all of this will die down.

Pakistan is a religious country. And despite Friday Times various articles, it will remain so. Nothing wrong with that. However, it is a qawwalli, sufi, bulleh shah, bari imam type religious country. Not a Taliban or MMA type. And I really don`t see that changing (barring any bombings of Iran and Afghanistan).......

So the correct way to go is to give everyone a piece of their time on TV, in politics, and everywhere else. Which Pakistan has done. Let the maulvis speak their mind. As long as you provide a better alternative to them, people will follow you. As I said Pakistanis are sensible people. Even after 55 years of massive corruption by our more secular leaders, they haven`t given into the maulvis yet. The problem with Pakistan is not the maulvi. The problem is the massive corruption by the others, which pushes some people towards the maulvi.

I work with a childrens` scholarshiop group in Pakistan. We give scholarships to the poorest of poor students. In the few years, the organization has been around, I have yet to see one single application from any student, which is not for any technical or liberal arts school.......So things are ok.....

My suggestion to you and various others with your points of view is to stop narrowing in on the maulvi. And start critiquing the more non-maulvi groups in Pakistan (PPP et al) and point out how corrupt they are. The moment the Bhuttos and Sharifs etc. mend their ways, or leave Pakistan, forever, the popularity of the maulvi will dwindle..........

#50 by Netizen, #44 by harish_hyd,

My comments were not disgusting; it is the Indian government that is disgusting. It is Chowk staff’s attitude that borders on disgusting.

I still don’t understand what is the big deal about this terrorist act? when there were terrorists attacks of more intensity in Pakistan that never got any special write up from chowk staff.
250 people died in Train accident in Sindh, chowk staff did not run an article here. 110 people died in train accident in India, chowk staff did not run an article here.

This is a disgusting attempt to equate a criminal act to Earthquake in Pakistan and that is what I find disgusting.

Since Chowkstaff ran an article about the Earthquake in Pakistan they are trying to balance that article with this write up about terrorism. Attempting to equate death of 50k people with a criminal act is criminal in itself.

On other note, why is India despite all the resources unable to handle the terrorism in its country? It is not something new in India. TWO prime ministers were victims of terrorism before. With 100 Billion dollar in reserve, a Million men strong army and a ten billion dollar security budget Indian government ought to be able to deal with it in 25 years.

Can you ask the Indian government why they always fail? They are simply, grossly incompetent. You should be writing to them instead of wasting your words here.

You guys need to hold Indian government accountable first.

Harish,

Don’t give me that baloney about kids and dead…people died because Indian government was negligent. If you are so concerned about them help them with something and don’t spend time writing emotional posts here. Be real!
Btw, India media has already forgotten this terrorist incident. Did not see much coverage of it on any channel.

Good to see a lot of caution and care originating from the govt and delhi police. Especially good that all the citizens of delhi have decided to deal with this chin-up. I hope they will go public with the final information only once it has been carefully worked through.

I wonder if any of the bharat-rakshak type sites have started to collect bounties for getting the killers. Does anyone have information about this?

For example, it should not be hard to raise $XYZQ to take the murderers out, dead or alive. But first we need information and identification.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/31/international/asia/31india.html?pagewanted=print

New Delhi Police Doubt a Boast; Shoppers Back, a Day After Blasts

By SOMINI SENGUPTA
NEW DELHI, Oct. 30 - A day after a synchronized string of bombs tore through packed holiday-season markets in the Indian capital, killing 59 people, the city`s shopping centers crept back Sunday to a cautious normalcy, a little-known militant outfit in disputed Kashmir Province claimed responsibility, and the police insisted that investigations remained inconclusive.

In Srinagar, the summer capital of India-controlled Kashmir, in a telephone call to a local news agency called Kashmir News Service, a man identified his group, Inquilabi, or Revolutionary, as having carried out the bombings. The joint commissioner of Delhi police, Karnail Singh, told reporters on Sunday that his office was investigating the lead. The police official gave a slightly different name of the organization: Islamic Inquilabi Mahaz, or Islamic Revolutionary Group, and said it was linked to Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistan-based militant organization responsible for several attacks in India.

Ajai Sahni, a security analyst and director of the New Delhi-based Institute for Conflict Management, said Lashkar-e-Taiba, when it first surfaced in Kashmir in 1993, operated under the name Islamic Inquilabi Mahaz. ``They are the same group,`` he said. ``They are what we could call a front organization.``

Lashkar-e-Taiba, outlawed in Pakistan, has spawned a charity that calls itself Jamat-ud-Dawa and provides relief to survivors of the Oct. 8 quake in Pakistan.

No one has yet been arrested in connection with the blasts, the police official told reporters. Nothing about the materials used or the pattern of the attacks suggests the hand of a particular organization. The police announced a reward of $2,200 for any information leading to the arrests of the bombers. India faces a host of armed insurgencies: from Maoists in its forests, ethnic guerrillas in the northeast, Sikh separatists, and Islamist guerrillas fighting for Kashmir. India accuses Pakistan, its neighbor and rival, of supporting the Kashmir militants.

The blasts came just hours before India and Pakistan agreed to open the de-facto frontier that divides their respective swaths of Kashmir. The accord is intended to allow members of divided families to visit one another and convey relief.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of India blamed terrorists for the bombings, but neither he nor any among his cabinet members would identify who was behind the attacks. The blasts wounded more than 200 people on the eve of the country`s most important Hindu and Muslim holidays. For New Delhi, as across much of North India, this weekend is akin to the weekend before Christmas in the United States and represents one of the busiest shopping periods of the year.

The first bomb struck at Paharganj Market in the city center shortly after 5:30 p.m.; a second struck Sarojini Nagar Market in south New Delhi a few minutes later; the last struck shortly thereafter near a bus in an industrial area called Govindpuri, also in the city`s south.

On Sunday, shopping centers opened their doors, though traffic was considerably lighter than normal and business was far more sluggish than normal on the weekend before Diwali, the Hindu festival of lights, and Id al-Fitr, marking the close of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

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HP Sahib, the timing is the answer. If some Hajis are blown to pieces in Mecca during Haj (even a few Hajis, 40 or 50), during Tawaf of Kaba, you can be sure that Chowk staff will write about it. What happened in Delhi is not a train accident you moron, it is a terrorist act, done on the eve of Diwali and around the time when India and Pakistan are warming up to one another. Don’t you see the significance?

Again, there is nothing comparable between a train wreck, an earthquake and terrorist act committed by a-holes on innocent people.

Yes, I didn’t see Chowk writing anything either when only three weeks ago, 8 Ahmadis were killed in their mosque. I think it was Ahmadi`s fault for praying to devil.