A Devastated Metropolis

Having been in uniform myself, I say this with a heavy heart. Why have things come to this? In 1971 wherever we went people greeted us, waved at us, gave us food and offered help. Helping the army was considered a privilege and even when Dhaka fell and our eastern command laid down its arms, they didn’t blame us soldiers, they said we had been stabbed in the back. People held Yahya Khan and his coterie (and their serious tippling) responsible for th``e debacle, not the army as a whole. It all seems so long ago.``

The above is quote from Ayaz Amir. Poor Ayaz, take it from me Ayaz, your version of the army is long gone, the present one is a jihadic army, the troops are indoctrinated with jihad, that is why they cannot help pakistanis in troubnle, but they killed the indian troops captured in Kargill by slitting their throats, true jihadic style, per the book.

Ayaz, learn from evidence, look and learn

Chowk “Walleh” many thanks for interacting.

Dear Salim Chauhan you sound like a well-travelled and seasoned interactor. I read with interest your encouraging comments and do poignantly agree with bringing “rotten apples” to justice. Unfortunately slanderous generalisations and mud-slinging have once more caught the better of politicians and Chowk interactors alike. Salim siz Turkiye de yasadiniz mi? Salim bey, Turkiye de hangi shehir de yashadiniz ?

Dr Lokraj you pose a pertinent question regarding normalization in the region: the evident answer that springs to mind are the usual culprits, the likes of Jamaat-e-Islami, the RSS, the saffron brigades benefiting from the status quo and the military industrial complex reaping huge expediency from broad expense allowances due to augmenting defence budgets. The question is, Dr Lokraj can the nuclear neighbours, long mired in a bloody territorial dispute, resolve their differences before it is too late?

Jay, everyone is entitled to the freedom of thought, yet mocking an earthquake that has killed circa 100,000 hardly seems befitting to an ethical conscience like yours. This article is not about vomiting nationalistic fervour, but about New Delhi and her grief, along with what investigative measures can be taken to alleviate the debacle.

HP many thanks for the comprehensive answer, glad to hear that Rajiv and his parents are hail and hearty. What was meant by the paragraph in question is that people on both sides of the border, are quick at pointing the accusatory finger and latch onto simplistic conspiracy theories regarding the bombings trying to stir up political angst to further their own agendas.

Ahhh Hamid M...... my most coveted fan! Welcome! Tis a great pleasure yet again to witness thy pearls of wisdom. Glad to see you are now handing out the Oscars. Sorry to hear about your experiences in the eight grade. How are the exam preparations coming along? Ready to take on that audacious teacher ? Good luck with the exams. Sincerely hope you make it to the 9th.

T Ahmed, speaking of handing out Oscars, it is heartening to see that you have nominated Yoda and your revered Jedi Master, the inimitable Hamid M. Yet even after all those years of training Jedi the laggard trailed behind Obi-Wan Kenobi and Luke in the common-sense stakes. Anyways hope all is well with you.

Soysauce, adding a bit of bitter to the dish eh? Your stirring is constructive. Do however appreciate that everyone has their own style of writing.

Jang I do value you’re your brevity and succinctness.

Re: # 38

ozer:

``the likes of Jamaat-e-Islami, the RSS, the saffron brigades benefiting from the status quo``

how????

A nation and its president,

Pakistanis are proud people, they are proud that they have the islamic bomb.

Their president ordered the removal of passport from an ordinary woman in pakistan, raped according to teh hoodood laws of pakistan. President intervened, there was a trial, several were sentenced to death, un-heard of in pakistan, and probably a sentence ordered by the president. The higher court, teh sheria court has set aside the sentences.

Now the porr president had to order the passp[ort back to the rape vicitim, because ythe ex-president of USA is planning to give an award to her.

President of the most powerful islamic country in the world could not deny passport to its own citizen. Why, there are no laws in pakistan, it is a failed stste. A trgedy for the educated of pakistan, for the tahmeds. Godot, take it from me, this post is not about hatred, it is about you to support change in pakistan.

Wrath of gods or wrath of the world,

Every one in pakistan is complaining that there is not much releif supplies in pakistan. One version is that it is the wrath of gods for mushy dealing with the hindus and the jews, the first fpormal meeting with israel. So pakistanis deserve it. No doubt the above could be true. To reverse that pakistan has to be more jihadic, opemn more mdrasas, sent more to london, erect a monument for Tanweer, a larger one than that built now by the laskers.

There is a more practical alternate. Pakistan is already a jihadic state, any money that is not channelled through the IMF system will definitely go to the jihadis controlling pakistan. Hence there are meetings and pledges of support, no money is handed over and all will be adjusted against promised other funding for pakistan.

Only way t improve the situation is for pakistan to close down the madrassas, shut down the jihadis and demolish Tanweer memorial.

Poor tahmed, godots and the other educated pakistanis are in a fix, the same emperical event, opposite solutions to address it.

let god shower mercy on godot and tahmed.

``The female poster Tahmed 32 refers to is Zeena, the most foul mouthed, idiotic barely literate poster on Chowk. Her work needs to be collected and posted up here on FP for the future idiots to follow and refer to. All I said to her was `Same to you` after she wished death and destruction on me and my female relatives. Not once the prophet of decency, protector of female virtue Tahmed 32 opened his mouth to advise his protege.``

Did you Prophet Tahmed32 advise Zeena to abstain ever? You want her handiwork on this page here to prove my charges against her?

Tahmed32 finds a sturdy desk and hides under it.
``#255 by tahmed32 on November 1, 2005 6:18pm PT
mannyd: actually, i got better things to do than waste time with empty vessels on chowk. (knowing you, you probably think you actually will get a Vikram Chakar or whatever it is you get for shooting breeze on chowk).``

IS #32 the better thing you had in mind Yoda?

29 Thanks hamid saab.

I am in a hurry, only a few days on chowk, and I do have to give the hungry chowkies my world view and a little bit of good old paki-bashing.

But the fact remains that the world is changing too fast for the pakistanis. I do hope that the importance of the return of all the londion bombers to pakistan will not be lost to teh world media and the terrorism analysts.

By the way, there is a news item today that a US helicopter in POK has been fired on. I do expect more attacks, all looks good for pakistan.

``Traffic-free are Delhi’s roads in an aberrantly unambiguous metropolis.``...... said Yoda sagely shaking his ubiquitously hirsute head from starboard to port and from port to starboard. ``And happy is hamidm that once again is Ozer in his sights``, Yoda continued.

..why should you guys be worried about his style...check out the substance if there is any...;)

… will chowk staff please tell me what is objectionable in my interact # 106 on “Bomb Blasts in Delhi” thread , that it had to be filtered out ?…

#106 by khamkhwa. on October 31, 2005 12:56pm PT
Re: # 104
[Author: Chidanand Rajghatta, Times News Network]
...this guy is a real hoot and confirms mushy`s claim...``pakis speak better english than indians``... he is a blot on the fair name of indian journalists...

Re: # 30

The spamming you did on all articles last week diminshed in your interact index to zero. Keep to the guidelines and your interact index will change back to a positive number and your comments will not be filtered.

jay,

.......... as much as we all love you, please take your whining elsewhere - we are turning this into a literary forum to discuss the use and abuse of adjectives and alliteration ........ there are enough boards where you can go and abuse assorted pakis ......... (shhhhh, tahmed is on one of them!) ......now, scoot !

wth?
I keep telling my 12-year old daughter who has taken quite a fancy to them to cut down on adjectives and alliteration. The strained language ends up rendering the underlying emotion contrived and artificial. Same to you too.

kaurasach,
To add to my post 22:
Nobody is denying the many contributions of the Sikhs. They are the one truly all-rounder community successful in everything including agriculture, science, business, sports and military. Good for them and good for Punjab and India.
However, your attitude of ``Sikhs never do any wrong`` and ``Hindus should forever be obligated to Sikhs for x, y,z...`` is seriously nauseating.

Satyavadi

SAhame of a nation,

A nuclear power with only 35 helicopters but with so called missiles and nukes. It is time that the world set an end to this jihad under mushroom clouds scenario.

Afghanistan is facing the consequences of this version of jihad, india is becomig an increasing victim of it.

The present US strategy to address this problem is a long drawn one. It aims to make pakistan at par with north Korea, with a slow economic decline, incresing poverty as evidenced by the beggers in pak cities is an unsure process. May be in another decade, pakistan could be at par with North korea, starvation and deceases being the norm and incresed US and NATO troops in pakistan.

May be india should accelerate the process. It needed more than a decade of sanctions before iraquisation, 25 years of technology denial for Korea, it is all too long. May be india should finish of the suffering of pakistanis quickly.