Religion In A Clubby Hole

hamidm mian #35: ``.......why can`t we cure this disease ??????``

Because people keep voting and supporting individuals like George Bush and various religious evangelicals (in various countries), when he (they) offer them the right deals. People are only anti-religion up to a point. They can, easily, be bought off if the price is right. Ask any Pakistani Jamaat-i-Islami maulvi, if he wants a visa to the USA, he will say yes. And ask any anti-religious person in USA, if he wants a tax cut, or an invasion, or something else attractive, and he will say yes also.........

Bush now wants religious freedom in China.

Guess which religion?
(Hint : Mr Bush says the spirit of the Lord is strong inside the church.)

If Bush has his way, is it dead-end for atheism as we know it?

Re: # 3

The point is, if God really does exist, it would be easy to prove, as there would be tangible evidence. What we have instead is standard mass delusion.

Religion exists solely because people don`t understand stuff and look for meaning, even though all that does is move the problem elsewhere. (I.e. where did God come from)

The actual religions and the sources they`re based on are totally irrational, not least because each one claims to be right. That shows just how hard it is to understand `God`s will`.

Once you alight on the reasonable assertion that religion is *just* organised mass delusion, everything fits neatly into place.

God won`t save the poor from devastation because there is no God.

Rama, Mohamed and Jesus didn`t save the human race, because there`s no saving to be done. Hell and Heaven don`t exist.

We`re just the same as we`ve always been; a load of atoms flying around. Each year, we learn more and more, and there are fewer places for the religious and their ignorance to hide.

Re: # 42


..........calling dr. shankar !

Re: # 42

Chauhan:

again........


every 2-3 months, all of a sudden you disappear from FP. Then I see you coming out of UP screaming and kicking Temporal/JohnGlat/Saminasha/Scout.

kya mazara hai yeh???

Re: # 45

I didn`t read Da Vinci Code because I am not good at deciphering. What is the relation?

#44. and you are a sheep.

But the real question is ``Where is the Good Shepherd?``

Re: # 42

You are paranoid.

Religion is a shit pool. Most religious men tend to be londay baz (child molesters). The best they can do is to recite a fuking 800 year old sermon on some assbackward issue. Wouldn’t it be so much better if all the Mullahs, Pundits, Rabbis and Priests are all Robots (made in Japan) who can do their little fukmyass dance on the podium once a week and get a life?

# 42
Chauhan Sahib… what happened Sir? May be it was Scooter Libby who did that.

Dear Farzana, Chowk Staff, and Chowkie friends, this is a serious alert for an insidious assault on Chowkies` privacy. I believe that the previous administration, including member(s) of Chowk Staff have helped John Galt (aka JG or JagdeeshGodbole) in obtaining confidential information, such as e-mail and IP addresses, about certain Chowkies. This information has been shared with Saminasha and Scout and involves Temporal and a few other insiders. Not very long ago, a post was intercepted and it was clear that the intended victim was Dalit. Recently other victims have been myself, Queenie, and a couple of others seen as ``enemies`` by this gang of insiders. This information is discussed and exchanged in media outside of Chowk, such as e-mails and other websites and chatrooms.

While this is a breach of confidentiality and certainly against all norms of ethical conduct and possibly US laws, it is very difficult to prove in a court of law. You have to prove that the act was intentional, malicious, and resulted in tangible harm to the victims. Emotional distress is no longer a guarantee for conviction.

I have been using Anonymous IP software for a very long time to preclude my IP address from being divulged. Not that I care, but it is fun to have them think that I am in UK one minute, and then in Poland the next, while appearing in US, Canada, and even Germany during the day. Almost all my life is an open book and I really don`t care about people knowing more about me than they already do. But, I do not appreciate covert actions, behind my back, to use insider information and break a trust that was ostensibly established between Chowk and Chowkies. The identities and locations of Chowk Management are well known as are the ones for some of the criminal perptetrators. I hope they realize this.

If, however, any actual harm comes to me or my family as a result of John Galt, Temporal, Scout, or Saminasha`s despicable and immoral behavior, I will come looking for them. We can always start with Ms. McDonald and go from there.

So, here is my sincere request:
1. Chowk Management need to investigate and correct this obvious breach of confidentiality.
2. The pernicious activity by JohnGalt (JagdeeshGodbole), Temporal, Scout, and Saminasha needs to stop RIGHT NOW.
3. A simple apology from the perpertrators will suffice once this silly game is stopped.

Thanks,

Re: # 35

.......why can`t we cure this disease ??????

It appears to be the case that many humans appear to have a need for a God like figure in their life. And their beliefs have varied from worshiping the sun, the local volcano, many Gods or a single God. Even human sacrifices were down to the `will of God`. When it comes down to religious beliefs, it seems that many humans will just accept whatever the current learnt belief is.

Reality is belief.

Imagination is the beginning of creation. Honestly, some people!

Re: # 18
Tahmed32 are you not jumping to conclusions here - I know of many christians of indian oorigin in place of work who have Indian names but are devote christians?

Re: # 17

are you not making a big assumption based on the monicker?
He could be an animist - a christian a muslim a jew or anybody really

Re: # 15

so you were first...well you cannot win them all

Re: # 9

ah! a chella of dworkins. But dear cantor_set at the time Marx said it - viral infections were not known. Hence the opiate thing. Perhaps this should be given a face lift. How about doing the honours - atleast on chowk.

Follow the rational set, and set out your stall !

Re: # 2

That is the great maya thought there wheel of time.

Dvaita and advaita are utlimately the same. Doesnot Sankara ultimately you donot need the prop of religion - he infact dismissed social tradition of his time and went and performed the last rites of his mother - this after he took sanyasa.

Essentially religion/god is in the mind of the beholder.

God is a man made creature to reassure us on the dark days that we are not alone and that there is this big entity looking after us - if only......

This ``if only.....`` leads to the terrible strictures of religion and the horrible staright jacket it puts us all in.