Diasporic Indian

Re: # 77

``But, hey, if it makes you happy, go right ahead and feel great about your comments.``

What I have to say here, Amitabh Bachhan would have said it like this :-`` Bolta_aaina jab bolta hai na, tau acchey-acchon ki bolti band ho jati hai...kya``.

No claps for the dialogue. Kitney sunoo....

Re: # 75

Ha ha ha hah......

Why are you so touchy?? Like a coconut...hard from outside.. but a single slam.... and the softness is exposed.

Anyway, dont get bogged down by people like us. If you feel you are right, the matter ends then and there.

You have said that you are not Sati Savitri..... but the same time you are also not Durga.... I think it is a Sati Savitri who thinks that she is a Durga.

reagarding jai-sri ram...

i was listening to a visiting gujju businessman in the US talk on the phone, and he used jai sriram for some and them jai sri krishna for some other phone calls. this puzzled me. he told me that in gujju biradaries, each biradari essentially has its own greeting... khodiar ma, gordhanji, geneshji..and so on..kinda like a secret handshake. so by using a specific greeting, he was emphasising his belonging of that biradari (he belongs to 2 due to marriages) to gain trust in the business dealing. so when you hear these greetings, there is sometimes a special context, so be careful before drawing uneducated conclusions.

I am glad you`re so happy with yourself bolta_aaina but really, do you have to be so delusional about yourself? Do you really consider your roti making slams to have had any effect on me? I`m not some Sati Savitri dissolving into tears of shame because someone like you talks about rotis. *shrugs* I have better self esteem and image than that. But, hey, if it makes you happy, go right ahead and feel great about your comments.

#71:

Yes, but salam seems to be more common.

You are right about greetings. Hi seems to be more popular among younger folks than Namaste, Sat Sri Akal or even Salam.

Re: # 71

btw I think the correct pronunciation is Assalam-o-Alaikum and not Salam-Alaikum.

Re: # 69

Chalo choddo..The essence of Roti is in eating and not making... Waisey ek baat ki tau daad dni hogi tumhey... ki ek humble roti ney tumhari sari hawa nikal di....ek do aur belni pad jaati tau aaina dekhna bhool jateen. The moral of the story is-- ek zarrey main bhi itni taqaat hai ki chahey tau sari khudai ko hila dey. In simple english--Always respect one`s humbleness.

My roti making skills are preety bad...poora Hindustan ka naksha ban jaata hai... It is easier to find various locations in my rotis than in a regular Map.

The process of moving from Khuda-hafiz to Allah-hafiz or from Namastey to Jai Sri Ram is nothing but cannibalisation of the religion. It is brute, it is savage.

PS:- You are always after ladies of my house. There are four of them..Four Deviyan...My Mom whom I respect, My wife whom I ......, My sister(diasporic) whom I miss and my daughter whom I cherish.(Btw, I am taking roti-making class for my daughter regularly).

Bye.

Re: # 68

But I dont think Hindu city-folks greet each other with Jai Sri Ram too often and on. Even Namastey is also in the passing these days. Its other phrases like ``Kaisey Hain?`` ``Sab theek hai``, ``Kya haal chaal hain`` are more in use.

#60 by hindvi

wow, that was a stretch. anyway, if you are taking digs at DM go for it ;-)

i dont get the alla hafiz bizness, but i find it amusing when panjabis seem to name their kids bunty and bubbli and then lament about that mango tree in their village..

i also think that food affects us culturally at a cellular level like nothing else. once the kids start eating real rotis (mom or servant made, but not the frozne ones) their DNA gets programmed.

Bolta_aaina: Maybe the difference between you and me is that my parents did not circumscribe my world view or my Indianness by my roti making skills. There was more emphasis placed on understanding people, on living history, on traveling and studying. There is more to being Indian and understanding how Indians live in impoverished corners of the country (and having spent time working in remote Himalayan villages that don`t appear on any maps I should know) without knowing how to make frickin` rotis. I am also thankful that the people (men and women) I knew in Allahabad didn`t put that much emphasis on their girls being able to make rotis. Btw, bolta_aaina, how are your roti making skills? Oops, I forgot...you have women in your life who make them for you.

I am glad I am not the only one disturbed by the Allah-hafiz and Jai Sia Ram trend. Namaste was a nice greeting that both Hindus and non-Hindus could use comfortably with each other. I find Alla-hafiz rather scary as well. Some time ago, I met some Muslim person and said Khuda-hafiz to him as he was leaving. He had the audacity to correct me and say, ``beti Allah hafiz kaha karo.`` I told him I`ve always said khuda-hafiz and had no intention of changing. Ass!

bolta_aaina:

Indian Muslims have always greeted each other with Salam-Ailakum and Sikhs with Sat Sri Akal. Hindus, at least the city folks, greeted each other with Namaste and most of them still do. Changing from Namaste to Jai Sia Ram is therefore similar to some Muslims switching from Khuda Hafiz to Allah Hafiz and not like them saying Salam-Ailakum.

#66 DOST-MITTAR

`` I believe Hindu villagers always used this greeting or ``Jai Ram ji ki`` but the city folks switching to this greeting or ``Jai Mata Di`` is definitely an indication of religious revival. ``

I dont think it is. It may appear on the surface..yes.

The problem with the country called India is that it is constantly looking for its identity..It is not sure what it is. The religous greetings were started by the BJP folks in the urban areas. Their contention, when Muslims greet each other with Assalam Allaikum or Sikhs greet each other with Sat Sri Akal..then it is prerogative upon Hindus to greet each other too with religous phase like Jai Sri Ram or Jai Mata Di etc.

But I dont think it has worked. ``Jai Sri Ram`` has become more of a slang for showing assertiveness than to say something in praise of Lord Rama.

One should not take too seriously what is shown in the Indian TV Serials of today. It is highly glamourised, highly exaggerated version of something very simple. I dont think what is shown in these serails exists in even 1% of Indian society. Yes, the rites and rituals do exist but not in the way they are shown.

hindvi:

``Its similar to the hypocrisy of people who have a big problem with the increasing religosity in Pakistan (allah hafiz etc) but find the increasing Hinduization and homogenisation of Indian society harmless (karva chauth, etc).``

Wrong example! A similar example would be urban Hindus switching from Namaste to ``Jai Siya Ram``. I believe Hindu villagers always used this greeting or ``Jai Ram ji ki`` but the city folks switching to this greeting or ``Jai Mata Di`` is definitely an indication of religious revival.

[Karva chauth was always a very important day for Hinduwomen in many parts of India, although Bollywood, including Muslim producers, seems to have discovered and glamourised it only recently].

Re: # 64

I could find only a few emoticons gigling and swirling there..... are they all allahabadis??

Re: # 63

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Re: # 62

Who all are they?? Can you name some of them?? And are you one of them?? But I dont mean just the citizens of aAllahabad. I mean those who share their roots with that ``Giant Tree.``