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Shikwa/Lament #37

thats why Shaheed marte haine and Lata and lyrics gaate haine ...

some times the marching band and poets like the alleged `7virgin
jehadi`.while witers and poets .precepitate them to die ......

Besides that its actuall just passive entertainment to who ever enjoys them...

Even if i want there is more art in this world that needs to be seen that i will not be ..due to motal period of Time ,i have..

so i dont care if not one nazam or poetry is written from henceforth ...I havent rea Ghalib fully as yet ..why would i need more

Thats why Art is on lesser priority of list ..

Terror in Okara #42 by sadna on May 27, 2003 7:20pm PT
As with everything else, the fundamental question is - which is more important to Pakistan, the Army`s corporate interests or the wishes of its people?

Both .doesn`t even imperfect perfect American democracy seem to suggest ..may be its called American Way ...

Pakistan and India - Lets Compromise #193

Not all indians EXPOSED to Brutish language and culture became victim to there design of turning us into thee unnamed AGENTS ...


When they dismiss Arabic & Sanskrit (so this you cant deny yourself) as equivalent to shelf of his private book collection against british ...


AT LEAST MUSLIM WHO PRESVED EVERYHING FROM MEDICINE TO MATHEMATICS ..Like an honest BANKER ...return back to the rennaisence ..1400 which arrogant British start calling WEST ?????????????????All with due CREDITS to Hindus ,Greeks ,Romans and all before them...

You cant ask for more honesty ......

If any missgiving you may have about Al Gebera and ZERO Arabs never said this .but ONLY western books some how avoid any credit to Sanskrit ....

Pakistan and India - Lets Compromise #193

Not all indians EXPOSED to Brutish language and cuklturebecame victim to there design of turning us into thee unamed AGENTS ...


When they dismiss Arabic & Sanskrit (so this you cant deny yourself) as equivalent to self of his private book collection against british ...


AT LEAST MUSLIM WHO PRESVED EVERYHING FROMMEDICINE TOMATHEMATICS ..Like an honest return back to the rennaisence ..1400 which arrogant British start calleng WEST ?????????????????

Qualitative Education #50


#50 by Ras on May 26, 2003 10:42pm PT

RE: Tipu # 21

I admit that am no Sir Ross Masood.

And Sir you are no Tipu Sultan....


I am glad then we are even

You know Tipu & i Sir Syed ........


My purpose was to arouse the new generation...


Dead people cant talk .....we have to talke as if what if he/she were alive ...

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it ...

Just paasively Persian ?arabic scholars sitting inAMU neverchal;enge ArunShouries Trnslation did sir syed wanted again translation as inCardova and Baghdad.I m afraid its reduced to that now .....

btw ..i am Seraj Ud Dowla of Black Hole Too.!

Qualitative Education #50


#50 by Ras on May 26, 2003 10:42pm PT

RE: Tipu # 21

I admit that am no Sir Ross Masood.

And Sir you are no Tipu Sultan....


I am glad then we are even

You know Tipu & i Sir Syed ........


My purpose was to arouse the new generation...


Dead people cant talk .....we have to talke as if what if he/she were alive ...

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it ...

Just paasively Persian ?arabic scholars sitting inAMU neverchal;enge ArunShouries Trnslation did sir syed wanted again translation as inCardova and Baghdad.I m afraid its reduced to that now .....

btw ..i am Seraj Ud Dowla of Black Hole Too.!

The Indo-Pak Summit, Kashmir and the Taj Mahal You wont even get audition as a commedienne in your telugu movies !!!

Your wrapppp sheet of logic





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#1 The Indo-Pak Summit, Kashmir and the Taj Mahal on May 25, 2003
As expected, india got the israeli falcon radar cleared
as a result of concessions to pakistan. what else...

recently the army conducted the `biggest` operation
yet in kashmir, over 60 pakistanis killed in their
hideout deep in the mountains.

it took the commandos a week trekking to reach the place.

who informed the indians about this well-kept secret?


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#2 Who Says You Cant Buy Love? on May 25, 2003
to hamidm2:

``most arranged marriages end up being rather unhappy unions of convenience based on children, financial security, extended family and habitual sex``

Going by the high rate of divorse (more than 50%) in the US, it would seem the same is true for `love` marriages also.



``and the men let the hair grow in their ears and noses and the women get broad in the behind and life goes on``

On the +ve side, this suggests a certain assuredness, a stability, in the husband-wife relation. I often wondered what drives western men and women to take such good care of themselves. Now I know. They HAVE to be marketable at all times, divorse may just be around the corner.

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#3 Women in Religious Scriptures on May 25, 2003
To Honorable_Syed:

By the by, since you are a direct descendent of the great one, do you support prosecution of the pakistani medico, who said Mohammed (PBUH) was not a `cut` to begin with?

In other words, we would greatly appeciate your looking up the family archives and providing us info on the prior state of the great one`s pedunda.

Being penis worshippers we are greatly interseted in these kinds of trivia.


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#4 The Beginning of the End of the Kashmir Problem on May 19, 2003
--- #125 by nazarhayatkhan ---

I am a South Asian for last 5000 years.
Muslim for last 1400 years.
And Pakistani for last 55 years.

Wah! Wah! Goodsounding reply!

So you were a south asian for 5000 years.
What the hell does that mean.

Do you mean your cultural roots began in Mohenjodaro ?

Well in that case, you were a hindu for 4000 years before you became a muslim in 1000 AD. correct me if my history is wrong.

I suppose (every now and then) you introduce yourself as a hindu also , do you!

South asian indeed!




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#5 The Beginning of the End of the Kashmir Problem on May 17, 2003
Pakistanis today are in the gutter. In the west they refer themselves as `South asians`!!! such is their shame.

It is Pakistan that desperately needs peace.. much much more than India does. We all know that, don`t we.

Should we help them at this moment or should we savor their misery and have them crawl awhile?


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Spare Us The Smoke, Please! Quti the bar job .....

Work in Mosque ,Madarsah Maktab ....religous people are more than non Smokers..... they are healthier

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#187 by bbabu on May 17, 2003 3:19pm PT


ahmadzai #185

``Ahmedism is a religious issue. I don`t want to get into this, because it may hurt some feelings on this site. ``

I am sure the treatment of Blacks was a sensitive issue in Southern USA in the 1960`s. I hope you get the drift.
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Blacks (afro Americans ) BUIT America


THEY are 30 millins over i usa


Ahmedis are Macauleys child like English infected Rabies

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#186 by ZafarA on May 17, 2003 9:09am PT
Reply ahmadzai #185

ahmadzai, of course you can believe what you want about whether ahmadias are muslims or not, but what does this personal belief of yours logically have to do with the gop handing out passports to its citizens, and what does any belief about islam have to do with passport applications?
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Pakistan never claims tobe SECULAR does it ???ISLAMIC ...

Exploring the Eternal Jihad: Islam vs. Sexuality
#68 by rsridhar on May 24, 2003 7:50am PT
re:#18 by ali_1
Even in your hatred, you have a sense of humor that would be welcome if it were not hurting the feeling of so many hindus on chowk.
Most hindus here do not give a damn to cow`s urine. May be our forefathers did. Now, i am informed by some sources (in Chowk and others) that cow`s urine may have something in it. After all that senile fool Morarji Desai consumed it and lived to a ripe old age of 93 (missing the century no doubt because he stopped consuming it!).
Sridhar

I doubt India has any decent Medical Copllege if science is by associatiion......Dont bring shame to Science for sake of RELIGION!!!

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#101 by stuka on May 22, 2003 8:07am PT
Faridi: True enough. But the pendulum sweeps both ways. If the US withdraws from international treaties and minds it`s own business it is still criticized. The honest truth is that due to sheer size and power, the US is criticized even when it pursues legitimate self interest that other countries do all the time.

Struka

Yes it is double wammy ! i sympathise with Americans and there forbearence .

Just think if a Biggest nation of the world complain of Wammy


Think of yourself ...You got wacked once ?

Then you got wackled again indirectly by demise of TNT in 71 by Bangladesh ......

Miscued Doldrums; The Saga Revisited, The Feud Recreated The MOST moronic part of the Article is its TITLE????????

Miscued Doldrums; The Saga Revisited, The Feud Recreated
#11 by rsridhar on May 25, 2003 6:10pm PT
re:#10 by Tipu
What the heck is Pak govt protecting? Mediocrity?
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Sridhar


I say pakistan is only justified on the basis of preseving the 1/3 heritage of`` Indian Culture``of undivided india ......

You can factor in the minus to deduct for bangladesh ......



If you show understanding or DISPEL the ``fear `` .......



But as i have said we have yet to collect the pieces of MuslimI Undivided India pieces strewn across the country .......


Then comes again PUNJABI on Both sides asserting Pounjabi is ALL hindu and his Cousin Across says PUNJABI is all MUSLIM pushng shoving s

Shikwa/Lament
``nahiiN hai to bhii kyaa kareiN
bataa, bataa, bataa, bataa ````


OOOOOOOOOH lets look into my Crystal Ball......

Such indecisive mixed dupilcity of verbal diarhhoea

Women in Religious Scriptures #109 by rsridhar on May 25, 2003 6:12pm PT
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Sridhar

If you look at terrorism as a tool of war 0r Defense or aggressions as one of many tactics utilized .....which are out of convention army to army confrontation as we conceptualize

Disinformation, Intelligence,Propoganda,Spying,etc, etc., are other tactics used even before WW2 ....

In the realm of propaganda Denomination is almost a `given `entity ... always. I hope you agree with that.


So here truth is not a criteria or morality.

Just as a govt. lies by suppressing information of casuality,news censure etc.


As student of Madras.dont be alarmed it never was a bad word ..Rajender Prasad among many kayasth hindus education has been there innorth.

Even if it is true written somewhere ...personally reading in standard deeni tallem.quiet naturally Islamiyat or Islam talim is like moral studies and would never include such unless to recruits like in Tamil LTTE or any recruitment Ira or Hamas.

In no imagination i ever dream of any such rewards.And why ..you can live and get these ...as for poor they can always be lied to as happens in all wars.

So not a scholar but a student of deeni taleem or moral studies which basically Koran or Urdu kA quieta 1122344556 is i never heard of thses so repeated virgins or yucks `boys` .

Its unfair to true selfless martyr in wars and battlle ,its unfair for


muslims who are not intersted in bringing world domination. as a religous call.But there can always be a Muslim Hitler .

....jews christians and muslim believe in some qiyamat or armageddeon ..but no more than that re appearence of prophet rather reapppearence b/c muslim specifically consider mohommed the last in the lineage ..Even christian see Jesus who is before Mohommed so no contradiction there .

By the plasces where such things are repeated is quiet in the hatefull tangential talk and reporting