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Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
#80 by m_souza on June 1, 2003 5:22pm PT
``Studbaker
I know..I too am not an expert in writing but...Studebaker..plz practice your typing/editing skills..as you r not be able to convey what u want as it is beyond our comprehension and an effort putting things together ..``
SAyz Souza
If your ideas were as clear as you expect from me And others we would not be continually talking TO each other INSTEAD of each other ..
How more clear you want me tp make
WHAT CAN YOU NOT UNDRSTAND OR INSTEAD OF LIEING U SHOOT THE MESSENGER RATHER ,SOME FALSE VANITY
Hitler ..was dummer than Joshi Advani And Shourie self assured ....
Hitler used Anthropology Medical doctors ``doctored`` science to ``guile doddle doo`` (also Jeffersondid same toBlacks )to prove JEWS are `weird ` humans..hooked nose etc.
These ``hindiuva`` virus of brain ..used simpler which Hitler could have used ..RELIGION THAT DID NOT ORIGINATE IN GERMANY (jusdeaism) DOESnot belong inGerrMany
Christian,bahai ,Parsi ,Muslim did not arise in Hindustan therefore they are LESS ..less can be from annihlation (holocaust ) to `ONLY show piecing minority ...)
But chances of Hindutva is NOT as sure as HITLER b/c Gemany can be U.P or any big state of India not 30states and 36 LANGUAGES...........
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SOUZA ,
THIS YOU WILL NEVER NEVER UNDERSTAND .ITS FOREIGN LANGUAGE TO YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP ..dude they are neither WORSHIPING the Stone of Kabba ..whenGhalib wrote
Khudaa ke vaaste pardaa na kaabe se uThaa zaalim
Kahii.n aisaa na ho yaa.N bhii vahii kaafir sanam
nikale``
This is how HINDU think .....
``Subj: Re: [SASIALIT] that ghalib qoute?
Date: 5/24/2003 8:14:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:
For God`s sake cruel one, don`t remove the cutain off
Kaaba
It may turn out that what turn out is the same
distracting lover
Poet is in love with a girl and she (sanam) is kafir
as she has diverted the poet from God?
Poorvi (hindu)
What do you think of this
I dont know if interpretation is colored by interpreters own belief.
Kaaba here only used b/c Kaba is indeed has black covering over it
Not that Kafir here indicates idolator
Kafir here means any thing belieeved not good for you ( like unhealthy ,not proper)
Kafir word meaning is completely different Kufr ...somthing calamitous
If i loved a woman
But i do not know under the cover is really my woman
I am so petrified i wish i never know it is you
Lover turns pale in front of each other ....
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 5, 2003 12:43 pm
#80 by m_souza on June 1, 2003 5:22pm PT
``Studbaker
I know..I too am not an expert in writing but...Studebaker..plz practice your typing/editing skills..as you r not be able to convey what u want as it is beyond our comprehension and an effort putting things together ..``
SAyz Souza
If your ideas were as clear as you expect from me And others we would not be continually talking TO each other INSTEAD of each other ..
How more clear you want me tp make
WHAT CAN YOU NOT UNDRSTAND OR INSTEAD OF LIEING U SHOOT THE MESSENGER RATHER ,SOME FALSE VANITY
Hitler ..was dummer than Joshi Advani And Shourie self assured ....
Hitler used Anthropology Medical doctors ``doctored`` science to ``guile doddle doo`` (also Jeffersondid same toBlacks )to prove JEWS are `weird ` humans..hooked nose etc.
These ``hindiuva`` virus of brain ..used simpler which Hitler could have used ..RELIGION THAT DID NOT ORIGINATE IN GERMANY (jusdeaism) DOESnot belong inGerrMany
Christian,bahai ,Parsi ,Muslim did not arise in Hindustan therefore they are LESS ..less can be from annihlation (holocaust ) to `ONLY show piecing minority ...)
But chances of Hindutva is NOT as sure as HITLER b/c Gemany can be U.P or any big state of India not 30states and 36 LANGUAGES...........
------------------------------------------------------------
SOUZA ,
THIS YOU WILL NEVER NEVER UNDERSTAND .ITS FOREIGN LANGUAGE TO YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP ..dude they are neither WORSHIPING the Stone of Kabba ..whenGhalib wrote
Khudaa ke vaaste pardaa na kaabe se uThaa zaalim
Kahii.n aisaa na ho yaa.N bhii vahii kaafir sanam
nikale``
This is how HINDU think .....
``Subj: Re: [SASIALIT] that ghalib qoute?
Date: 5/24/2003 8:14:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:
For God`s sake cruel one, don`t remove the cutain off
Kaaba
It may turn out that what turn out is the same
distracting lover
Poet is in love with a girl and she (sanam) is kafir
as she has diverted the poet from God?
Poorvi (hindu)
What do you think of this
I dont know if interpretation is colored by interpreters own belief.
Kaaba here only used b/c Kaba is indeed has black covering over it
Not that Kafir here indicates idolator
Kafir here means any thing belieeved not good for you ( like unhealthy ,not proper)
Kafir word meaning is completely different Kufr ...somthing calamitous
If i loved a woman
But i do not know under the cover is really my woman
I am so petrified i wish i never know it is you
Lover turns pale in front of each other ....
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
#165 by m_souza on June 4, 2003 10:02pm PT
#155 by Urstruly on June 4, 2003 8:46am PT
msouza and stuka
The question still remains why hinduism is considered so intolerant, violent, threatening, and aggressive by its own true adherents? That was the question all along.
---
worry about islam ..man...
ask yourself why is it hated so much by the whole world now
Souza
NOT True
AS a Religion American Care,intersted in And concerned (may be due to terror)MUCH more than HINDUISM ..(noticed the Christians doing Hindutva in see Nat Geo.Pictorial .. u should be depressed for a weekes after that)
I am Asked more question about Islam/Muslim from college students than about my Science ....
Sometime I am amazed why do they want to know is it FEAR or what :
As a country INDIA is cared b/c it has billion head in ONE place ...WHO Wouldn`t
infact all MUSLIM(Islamic) countries consider it more important than Pakistan naturally b/c of its SIZE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 5, 2003 03:07 am
#165 by m_souza on June 4, 2003 10:02pm PT
#155 by Urstruly on June 4, 2003 8:46am PT
msouza and stuka
The question still remains why hinduism is considered so intolerant, violent, threatening, and aggressive by its own true adherents? That was the question all along.
---
worry about islam ..man...
ask yourself why is it hated so much by the whole world now
Souza
NOT True
AS a Religion American Care,intersted in And concerned (may be due to terror)MUCH more than HINDUISM ..(noticed the Christians doing Hindutva in see Nat Geo.Pictorial .. u should be depressed for a weekes after that)
I am Asked more question about Islam/Muslim from college students than about my Science ....
Sometime I am amazed why do they want to know is it FEAR or what :
As a country INDIA is cared b/c it has billion head in ONE place ...WHO Wouldn`t
infact all MUSLIM(Islamic) countries consider it more important than Pakistan naturally b/c of its SIZE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
#165 by m_souza on June 4, 2003 10:02pm PT
#155 by Urstruly on June 4, 2003 8:46am PT
msouza and stuka
The question still remains why hinduism is considered so intolerant, violent, threatening, and aggressive by its own true adherents? That was the question all along.
---
worry about islam ..man...
ask yourself why is it hated so much by the whole world now..
---------------------------------
NOT True ..islam is reaping benefit in a ironical way
Building of IRAQ
First time in History Americans have been GENTLE soldier despite whatever destruction occur ,See the Palestenian proces never progresd so smoothly ...
So far muslim /Islam nothing tocomplaiabout outside KAShmir ...
AS a Religion American Care,intersted in And concerned (may be due to terror)MUCGHmore than HINDUISM ..(noticed the Christians doing Hindutva in see Nat Geo.Pictorial .. u should be depressed for a weakes after that)
I am Asked more question about Islam/Muslim from college students than about my Science ....
Sometime I am amazed why do they want to know is it FEAR or what :
As a country INDIA is cared b/c it has billion head in ONE place ...WHO Wouldn`t
infect all MUSLIM(Islamic) countries consider it more important thanPakistan naturally b/c of its SIZE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 5, 2003 03:07 am
#165 by m_souza on June 4, 2003 10:02pm PT
#155 by Urstruly on June 4, 2003 8:46am PT
msouza and stuka
The question still remains why hinduism is considered so intolerant, violent, threatening, and aggressive by its own true adherents? That was the question all along.
---
worry about islam ..man...
ask yourself why is it hated so much by the whole world now..
---------------------------------
NOT True ..islam is reaping benefit in a ironical way
Building of IRAQ
First time in History Americans have been GENTLE soldier despite whatever destruction occur ,See the Palestenian proces never progresd so smoothly ...
So far muslim /Islam nothing tocomplaiabout outside KAShmir ...
AS a Religion American Care,intersted in And concerned (may be due to terror)MUCGHmore than HINDUISM ..(noticed the Christians doing Hindutva in see Nat Geo.Pictorial .. u should be depressed for a weakes after that)
I am Asked more question about Islam/Muslim from college students than about my Science ....
Sometime I am amazed why do they want to know is it FEAR or what :
As a country INDIA is cared b/c it has billion head in ONE place ...WHO Wouldn`t
infect all MUSLIM(Islamic) countries consider it more important thanPakistan naturally b/c of its SIZE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
If Musharaff =Advani lets see records of each
Only Accusation against M being in Military he can be blamed everything Pak army did whatever neutral intl.world in eye of international opinion may be (which will be unbiased unlike Indian)
Advani viscously whipped up frenzy against LEGITIMATE INDIAN minority who are ON the Land of there forefathers for no less than 1000 yrs atleast as Muslim and may be melineum as pre Islamic religions.
Who has more rights to Delhi a Bukhari who is there for ever or Advani from Karachi.
Even if Pakistan call itself SATAN IStan it is GEOGRAPHICAL country ..meaning those who were there MUST stay where they were
BECAUSE
INDIAN Muslims atleas were so HUGE number cannot be given any LAND except were ever they WERE
You can help refugees from pakistan
Pakistan can its 3 million
India its share of refugees ...10-12 milions
REligion cannnot be imposed .......I can be ram and still be MUslim......
DONT FORGET HINDUS COMING OVER FROM PAKISTAN WERE MORE B/c
they were absolute minority 5-10% and have a CHOICE NOT to live as minority and they made that BUT cannot be rewarded ...as a VICTIM
SAme applies to muslim who went to Pakistan they could live in INdia BUT chose to be RELIGION of MAJORITY ...
they have right to choose they chose to LIVE with ONLY muslim..that itself is NOT anti HINDU aND GLOBAL desire to conquer or destroy hindu or any non muslim..
Does india want to consider itself bigger image of PAKISTAN .....
or in reality India is Left over of what remains after BRITISH designed partition...
Neither jew could have nor Jinnah could have BY THEMSELVES ......Made ISRAEL OR PAKISTAN
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Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 4, 2003 10:04 pm
0.k. If Musharaff =Advani lets see records of each
Only Accusation against M being in Military he can be blamed everything Pak army did whatever neutral intl.world in eye of international opinion may be (which will be unbiased unlike Indian)
Advani viscously whipped up frenzy against LEGITIMATE INDIAN minority who are ON the Land of there forefathers for no less than 1000 yrs atleast as Muslim and may be melineum as pre Islamic religions.
Who has more rights to Delhi a Bukhari who is there for ever or Advani from Karachi.
Even if Pakistan call itself SATAN IStan it is GEOGRAPHICAL country ..meaning those who were there MUST stay where they were
BECAUSE
INDIAN Muslims atleas were so HUGE number cannot be given any LAND except were ever they WERE
You can help refugees from pakistan
Pakistan can its 3 million
India its share of refugees ...10-12 milions
REligion cannnot be imposed .......I can be ram and still be MUslim......
DONT FORGET HINDUS COMING OVER FROM PAKISTAN WERE MORE B/c
they were absolute minority 5-10% and have a CHOICE NOT to live as minority and they made that BUT cannot be rewarded ...as a VICTIM
SAme applies to muslim who went to Pakistan they could live in INdia BUT chose to be RELIGION of MAJORITY ...
they have right to choose they chose to LIVE with ONLY muslim..that itself is NOT anti HINDU aND GLOBAL desire to conquer or destroy hindu or any non muslim..
Does india want to consider itself bigger image of PAKISTAN .....
or in reality India is Left over of what remains after BRITISH designed partition...
Neither jew could have nor Jinnah could have BY THEMSELVES ......Made ISRAEL OR PAKISTAN
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Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
#157 Nakhok
Sayidda Veeresh,BBabuSadna Faruk ,Arjun tenaliramanna ,Souza ,Harimou ,Stuka ,
Advani will lead BJP in next general election: Vajpayee Rediff
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``A self-confident nation and a self-confident party. Neither tired, nor retired. The party will march to victory under the leadership of Advani,`` Vajpayee said. ``Those who used to avoid us after the nuke tests, now sit and dine with us,`` he said in an apparent reference to Bush.
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Let those who want to BE Taleban LET THEM be one..be one ..Cow Belt vegie Vegan HIndu for indeed LEADER of HINDU by proxy is ADVANI ,JOSHI and Shourie ...
If the wife abla Nari likes Domestic violence ,Abuse silently with TACIT assent ...So let it be Let It Be ....
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 4, 2003 10:04 pm
#157 Nakhok
Sayidda Veeresh,BBabuSadna Faruk ,Arjun tenaliramanna ,Souza ,Harimou ,Stuka ,
Advani will lead BJP in next general election: Vajpayee Rediff
-----------------------------------------------------
``A self-confident nation and a self-confident party. Neither tired, nor retired. The party will march to victory under the leadership of Advani,`` Vajpayee said. ``Those who used to avoid us after the nuke tests, now sit and dine with us,`` he said in an apparent reference to Bush.
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Let those who want to BE Taleban LET THEM be one..be one ..Cow Belt vegie Vegan HIndu for indeed LEADER of HINDU by proxy is ADVANI ,JOSHI and Shourie ...
If the wife abla Nari likes Domestic violence ,Abuse silently with TACIT assent ...So let it be Let It Be ....
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
#157 Nakhok
Sayidda Veeresh,BBabuSadna Faruk ,Arjun tenaliramanna ,Souza ,Harimou ,Stuka ,
Advani will lead BJP in next general election: Vajpayee Rediff
-----------------------------------------------------
``A self-confident nation and a self-confident party. Neither tired, nor retired. The party will march to victory under the leadership of Advani,`` Vajpayee said. ``Those who used to avoid us after the nuke tests, now sit and dine with us,`` he said in an apparent reference to Bush.
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Let those who want to BE Taleban LET THEM be one..be one ..Cow Belt vegie Vegan HIndu for indeed LEADER of HINDU by proxy is ADVANI ,JOSHI and Shourie ...
If the wife abla Nari likes Domestic violence ,Abuse silently with TACIT assent ...So let it be Let It Be ....
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 4, 2003 10:04 pm
#157 Nakhok
Sayidda Veeresh,BBabuSadna Faruk ,Arjun tenaliramanna ,Souza ,Harimou ,Stuka ,
Advani will lead BJP in next general election: Vajpayee Rediff
-----------------------------------------------------
``A self-confident nation and a self-confident party. Neither tired, nor retired. The party will march to victory under the leadership of Advani,`` Vajpayee said. ``Those who used to avoid us after the nuke tests, now sit and dine with us,`` he said in an apparent reference to Bush.
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Let those who want to BE Taleban LET THEM be one..be one ..Cow Belt vegie Vegan HIndu for indeed LEADER of HINDU by proxy is ADVANI ,JOSHI and Shourie ...
If the wife abla Nari likes Domestic violence ,Abuse silently with TACIT assent ...So let it be Let It Be ....
The Wheels of Time
132 by Paigham on May 23, 2003 7:17pm PT
#130 by sadna on May 23, 2003 3:42pm PT
I dont think urdu Hindi or Punjabi or any regional language is better than just like no ethnicity can claim it is better than other.English is the `econmic` language .Which every one understands .
For indian muslim it is not bread & butter nor survival issue .If you cant eat or breath who even think of SPEAKING ``there mind what it thinks ``
POunjabi language punjabiyat And cultural celebrationonly Punjabis can Afford for some reason.Little bit of agresiveness doesnt hurt ....but then if you have not done with killing in 47 and for muslims again 71 go ahead
I do not think neither Pakistani punjabi nor any one CREATED pakistan.
Ultimately it was our Master who listened to two foolish fellas and stood up
If you trying to convince me that you absolutely cannot avoid cutting each others throat without it (punjab /bengal riots ).Here is what i am going to do .......
Of course there was formal meeting with Jinnah & mt.Batten
Then with the Congress trio Azad , Patel & Nehru
( this is from pbs series wgbbh Boston over 7 episodes titled Lord Mt.Batten ..)
Mc Nichol was Batten ,I knew other actors name you can get from PBS.)
To cut it short ...IT WAS ONLY MT.BATTEN AND HIM ALONE sole architrecture of Partition.
Just neither anyone from iNdia can actually say they wrestled it from the British ,Nor Muslim or JINNAH `created` Pakistan.
Creation is done by god and then by British.
India signed so did Jinnah but just as you sign when doctor says this is the only life saving operation otherwise pt witll die ....Is it consent or informed consent or consent under dures ?????
You can argue endlessly about the shade and degree of each players secondary role which no doubt they all played in the history of India .
Countries are not made every day ...may ve every 100 or thousand yrs. in the past .
In future i dont think any sane person can change geography that easily .The presence of Israel in Palestine or Pakistan (bangla desh )and India ..so it may put some sense who think otherwise to be wise not fool hardy .
Fiormation of Bangladesh was attemt partially to undo that but as tyou can say they are three countries still.
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Let those who want to BE Taleban LET THEM be one..be one ..Cow Belt vegie Vegan HIndu for indeed LEADER of HINDU by proxy is ADVANI ,JOSHI and Shourie ...
If the wife abla Nari likes Domestic violence ,Abuse silently with TACIT assent ...So let it be Let It Be ....
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 4, 2003 10:04 pm
132 by Paigham on May 23, 2003 7:17pm PT
#130 by sadna on May 23, 2003 3:42pm PT
I dont think urdu Hindi or Punjabi or any regional language is better than just like no ethnicity can claim it is better than other.English is the `econmic` language .Which every one understands .
For indian muslim it is not bread & butter nor survival issue .If you cant eat or breath who even think of SPEAKING ``there mind what it thinks ``
POunjabi language punjabiyat And cultural celebrationonly Punjabis can Afford for some reason.Little bit of agresiveness doesnt hurt ....but then if you have not done with killing in 47 and for muslims again 71 go ahead
I do not think neither Pakistani punjabi nor any one CREATED pakistan.
Ultimately it was our Master who listened to two foolish fellas and stood up
If you trying to convince me that you absolutely cannot avoid cutting each others throat without it (punjab /bengal riots ).Here is what i am going to do .......
Of course there was formal meeting with Jinnah & mt.Batten
Then with the Congress trio Azad , Patel & Nehru
( this is from pbs series wgbbh Boston over 7 episodes titled Lord Mt.Batten ..)
Mc Nichol was Batten ,I knew other actors name you can get from PBS.)
To cut it short ...IT WAS ONLY MT.BATTEN AND HIM ALONE sole architrecture of Partition.
Just neither anyone from iNdia can actually say they wrestled it from the British ,Nor Muslim or JINNAH `created` Pakistan.
Creation is done by god and then by British.
India signed so did Jinnah but just as you sign when doctor says this is the only life saving operation otherwise pt witll die ....Is it consent or informed consent or consent under dures ?????
You can argue endlessly about the shade and degree of each players secondary role which no doubt they all played in the history of India .
Countries are not made every day ...may ve every 100 or thousand yrs. in the past .
In future i dont think any sane person can change geography that easily .The presence of Israel in Palestine or Pakistan (bangla desh )and India ..so it may put some sense who think otherwise to be wise not fool hardy .
Fiormation of Bangladesh was attemt partially to undo that but as tyou can say they are three countries still.
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Let those who want to BE Taleban LET THEM be one..be one ..Cow Belt vegie Vegan HIndu for indeed LEADER of HINDU by proxy is ADVANI ,JOSHI and Shourie ...
If the wife abla Nari likes Domestic violence ,Abuse silently with TACIT assent ...So let it be Let It Be ....
Women in Religious Scriptures
Inquirer (Sushil Bhatnagar )
You have made some revealing points. I agree that many Muslims may have come here (US) to escape discrimination and oppression in their home countries. But you need to understand the sources of irrational misogynism. The obvious and overt oppression of women is MAXIMUM in Muslim countries. Hence, the feminist voice is loudest from those countries. The point is not unbridled feminism rather it is adoption of principles of fairness and equality among the sexes. No doubt, there irresponsible women as there are men
Forced prostitution racket unearthed in Delhi
New Delhi: The Delhi Police today said they have unearthed a forced prostitution racket in South Delhi by rescuing five girls including two minors and arresting five members of the gang.
Deputy Commissioner of Police (Crime) Dipendra Pathak said the Crime Branch arrested leader of the prostitution gang Meena alias Kamlesh, her husband Sunder Singh and team members Amardeep Rathi, Rishi Pal and Kamlesh.
The arrests were made on a complaint from the Delhi Commission for Women that a few girls were being compelled for prostitution in South Delhi.
During interrogation of the gang members, they disclosed that girls were kept in a house in DDA flats in Kalkaji. A Maruti Van and a Gypsy belonging to Mardeep and Rishi Pal which were used for ferrying of girls were seized.
UNI
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 4, 2003 10:04 pm
#282Inquirer (Sushil Bhatnagar )
You have made some revealing points. I agree that many Muslims may have come here (US) to escape discrimination and oppression in their home countries. But you need to understand the sources of irrational misogynism. The obvious and overt oppression of women is MAXIMUM in Muslim countries. Hence, the feminist voice is loudest from those countries. The point is not unbridled feminism rather it is adoption of principles of fairness and equality among the sexes. No doubt, there irresponsible women as there are men
Forced prostitution racket unearthed in Delhi
New Delhi: The Delhi Police today said they have unearthed a forced prostitution racket in South Delhi by rescuing five girls including two minors and arresting five members of the gang.
Deputy Commissioner of Police (Crime) Dipendra Pathak said the Crime Branch arrested leader of the prostitution gang Meena alias Kamlesh, her husband Sunder Singh and team members Amardeep Rathi, Rishi Pal and Kamlesh.
The arrests were made on a complaint from the Delhi Commission for Women that a few girls were being compelled for prostitution in South Delhi.
During interrogation of the gang members, they disclosed that girls were kept in a house in DDA flats in Kalkaji. A Maruti Van and a Gypsy belonging to Mardeep and Rishi Pal which were used for ferrying of girls were seized.
UNI
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
Hitler used Anthropology Medical doctors ``doctored`` science to ``guile doddle doo`` (also Jeffersondid same toBlacks )to prove JEWS are `weird ` humans..hooked nose etc.
These ``hindiuva`` virus of brain ..used simpler which Hitler could have used ..RELIGION THAT DID NOT ORIGINATE IN GERMANY (jusdeaism) DOESnot belong inGerrMany
Christian,bahai ,Parsi ,Muslim did not arise in Hindustan therefore they are LESS ..less can be from annihlation (holocaust ) to `ONLY show piecing minority ...)
But chances of Hindutva is NOT as sure as HITLER b/c Gemany can be U.P or any big state of India not 30states and 36 LANGUAGES...........
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 3, 2003 12:09 pm
Hitler ..was dummer than Joshi Advani And Shourie self assured ....Hitler used Anthropology Medical doctors ``doctored`` science to ``guile doddle doo`` (also Jeffersondid same toBlacks )to prove JEWS are `weird ` humans..hooked nose etc.
These ``hindiuva`` virus of brain ..used simpler which Hitler could have used ..RELIGION THAT DID NOT ORIGINATE IN GERMANY (jusdeaism) DOESnot belong inGerrMany
Christian,bahai ,Parsi ,Muslim did not arise in Hindustan therefore they are LESS ..less can be from annihlation (holocaust ) to `ONLY show piecing minority ...)
But chances of Hindutva is NOT as sure as HITLER b/c Gemany can be U.P or any big state of India not 30states and 36 LANGUAGES...........
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
But nothing duller than you...
b/c i have gone over this more times than 30 states of our country and more than 36 regional languages ...
Those hindutva who have ben through `good for nothing `journalist Arun Shurie has been tesching u ...can be teacher onlyfor Indian Presentgov.NOT OuTSIDE at least not about ISLAM
Kaba to muslim is Pathar ...no more
Hindus b/c they worship statues made ofRock (patthar ) like to vicariously wish all those muslims WERE hindus
WAKE UP ..dude they are neither WORSHIPING the Stone of Kabba ..whenGhalib wrote
Khudaa ke vaaste pardaa na kaabe se uThaa zaalim
Kahii.n aisaa na ho yaa.N bhii vahii kaafir sanam
nikale``
This is how HINDU think .....
Subj: Re: [SASIALIT] that ghalib qoute?
Date: 5/24/2003 8:14:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: American Ultra
I
How about this:
For God`s sake cruel one, don`t remove the cutain off
Kaaba
It may turn out that what turn out is the same
distracting lover
Poet is in love with a girl and she (sanam) is kafir
as she has diverted the poet from God?
Poorvi
What do you think of this
I dont know if interpretation is colored by interpreters own belief.
Kaaba here only used b/c Kaba is indeed has black covering over it
Not that Kafir here indicates idolator
Kafir here means any thing belieeved not good for you ( like unhealthy ,not proper)
Kafir word meaning is completely different Kufr ...somthing calamitous
If i loved a woman
But i do not know under the cover is really my woman
I am so petrified i wish i never know it is you
Lover turns pale in front of each other ....
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 2, 2003 06:20 pm
I have had Dull hindu students from all over India......But nothing duller than you...
b/c i have gone over this more times than 30 states of our country and more than 36 regional languages ...
Those hindutva who have ben through `good for nothing `journalist Arun Shurie has been tesching u ...can be teacher onlyfor Indian Presentgov.NOT OuTSIDE at least not about ISLAM
Kaba to muslim is Pathar ...no more
Hindus b/c they worship statues made ofRock (patthar ) like to vicariously wish all those muslims WERE hindus
WAKE UP ..dude they are neither WORSHIPING the Stone of Kabba ..whenGhalib wrote
Khudaa ke vaaste pardaa na kaabe se uThaa zaalim
Kahii.n aisaa na ho yaa.N bhii vahii kaafir sanam
nikale``
This is how HINDU think .....
Subj: Re: [SASIALIT] that ghalib qoute?
Date: 5/24/2003 8:14:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: American Ultra
I
How about this:
For God`s sake cruel one, don`t remove the cutain off
Kaaba
It may turn out that what turn out is the same
distracting lover
Poet is in love with a girl and she (sanam) is kafir
as she has diverted the poet from God?
Poorvi
What do you think of this
I dont know if interpretation is colored by interpreters own belief.
Kaaba here only used b/c Kaba is indeed has black covering over it
Not that Kafir here indicates idolator
Kafir here means any thing belieeved not good for you ( like unhealthy ,not proper)
Kafir word meaning is completely different Kufr ...somthing calamitous
If i loved a woman
But i do not know under the cover is really my woman
I am so petrified i wish i never know it is you
Lover turns pale in front of each other ....
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
#Tantric Yantric
Perverted sex....
I have had Dull hindu students from all over India......
But nothing duller than you...
b/c i have gone over this more times than 30 states of our country and more than 36 regional languages ...
Those hindutva who have been through `good for nothing `journalist Arun Shurie` has been teaching u ...can be teacher only for Indian Present gov.NOT OuTSIDE at least not about ISLAMurdu literatur osr nonpoluted muslimness ...
Kaba to muslim is Pathar ...no more
Hindus b/c they worship statues made ofRock (patthar ) like to vicariously wish all those muslims WERE muslim
WAKE UP ..dude they are neither WORSHIPING the Stone of Kabba ..whenGhalib wrote
Khudaa ke vaaste pardaa na kaabe se uThaa zaalim
Kahii.n aisaa na ho yaa.N bhii vahii kaafir sanam
nikale``
This is how HINDU think .....
``Subj: Re: [SASIALIT] that ghalib qoute?
Date: 5/24/2003 8:14:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:
I
How about this:
For God`s sake cruel one, don`t remove the cutain off
Kaaba
It may turn out that what turn out is the same
distracting lover
Poet is in love with a girl and she (sanam) is kafir
as she has diverted the poet from God?
Poorvi (hindu)
What do you think of this
I dont know if interpretation is colored by interpreters own belief.
Kaaba here only used b/c Kaba is indeed has black covering over it
Not that Kafir here indicates idolator
Kafir here means any thing belieeved not good for you ( like unhealthy ,not proper)
Kafir word meaning is completely different Kufr ...somthing calamitous
If i loved a woman
But i do not know under the cover is really my woman
I am so petrified i wish i never know it is you
Lover turns pale in front of each other ....
(muslim thaught )about a muslim poet or hindu thaught about a muslim mind .............................
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 2, 2003 06:20 pm
#116#Tantric Yantric
Perverted sex....
I have had Dull hindu students from all over India......
But nothing duller than you...
b/c i have gone over this more times than 30 states of our country and more than 36 regional languages ...
Those hindutva who have been through `good for nothing `journalist Arun Shurie` has been teaching u ...can be teacher only for Indian Present gov.NOT OuTSIDE at least not about ISLAMurdu literatur osr nonpoluted muslimness ...
Kaba to muslim is Pathar ...no more
Hindus b/c they worship statues made ofRock (patthar ) like to vicariously wish all those muslims WERE muslim
WAKE UP ..dude they are neither WORSHIPING the Stone of Kabba ..whenGhalib wrote
Khudaa ke vaaste pardaa na kaabe se uThaa zaalim
Kahii.n aisaa na ho yaa.N bhii vahii kaafir sanam
nikale``
This is how HINDU think .....
``Subj: Re: [SASIALIT] that ghalib qoute?
Date: 5/24/2003 8:14:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:
I
How about this:
For God`s sake cruel one, don`t remove the cutain off
Kaaba
It may turn out that what turn out is the same
distracting lover
Poet is in love with a girl and she (sanam) is kafir
as she has diverted the poet from God?
Poorvi (hindu)
What do you think of this
I dont know if interpretation is colored by interpreters own belief.
Kaaba here only used b/c Kaba is indeed has black covering over it
Not that Kafir here indicates idolator
Kafir here means any thing belieeved not good for you ( like unhealthy ,not proper)
Kafir word meaning is completely different Kufr ...somthing calamitous
If i loved a woman
But i do not know under the cover is really my woman
I am so petrified i wish i never know it is you
Lover turns pale in front of each other ....
(muslim thaught )about a muslim poet or hindu thaught about a muslim mind .............................
How to kill your Wife (Unedited)
Zeeeeeee
``absent mother does worse than an absent father. Unless of course the children are homosexual. That`s my opinion. Feel free to disagree. ``
Stephen King says bad mother (bates Motel)is just as bad ...before chowk declares me pAINDOO..
I know Stephen yar did not write Psycho but Hitchkock did
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 1, 2003 03:14 pm
Zeeeeeee
``absent mother does worse than an absent father. Unless of course the children are homosexual. That`s my opinion. Feel free to disagree. ``
Stephen King says bad mother (bates Motel)is just as bad ...before chowk declares me pAINDOO..
I know Stephen yar did not write Psycho but Hitchkock did
How to kill your Wife (Unedited)
#45
Zeeeeeee
``absent mother does worse than an absent father. Unless of course the children are homosexual. That`s my opinion. Feel free to disagree. ``
Stephen King says bad mother (bates Motel)is just as bad ...before chowk declares me pAINDOO..
I know Stephen yar did not write Psycho but Hitchkock did
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 1, 2003 03:14 pm
#45
Zeeeeeee
``absent mother does worse than an absent father. Unless of course the children are homosexual. That`s my opinion. Feel free to disagree. ``
Stephen King says bad mother (bates Motel)is just as bad ...before chowk declares me pAINDOO..
I know Stephen yar did not write Psycho but Hitchkock did
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
#70 by sayyida on June 1, 2003 9:52am PT
pl. who post on the day of reg. are sometime DISHONEST
as in your claim as ``secular``
If you are secular `X` of Pakistan as Indian muslim
or
`Y`Pounjabi as `secular muslim`..its quiet possible
I am secular to manyHinDUS b/c i have lived AMONG them
the taste of pudding is ineating it ....
those that read recipe book or returant reviews are not genuine gastronomist ...
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 1, 2003 10:51 am
#70 by sayyida on June 1, 2003 9:52am PT
pl. who post on the day of reg. are sometime DISHONEST
as in your claim as ``secular``
If you are secular `X` of Pakistan as Indian muslim
or
`Y`Pounjabi as `secular muslim`..its quiet possible
I am secular to manyHinDUS b/c i have lived AMONG them
the taste of pudding is ineating it ....
those that read recipe book or returant reviews are not genuine gastronomist ...
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
#61
``The Mass Communication dept. at Jamia was the first of its kind, it was established to train students for a career in Mass Communications. It has students of all faiths and a good reputation in the Industry.``
-------------------------------
All faiths inabsence of schoolls are always welcome to study ..
Thionk of it as comnining western ed. with some muslim i.d.
The Hindu Camp or Sunday School allover usa both among imigrant Hindu And Muslim or even local christian is the sme need for preseving you past i.d.
How many ndian muslim attend a HinduCamp inCt. ?
I have said it befopre our first President Rajender Prasad ..a kayasth..fororientationurpiose ..had his ist day in school in madarsah of hos village so millions of Hindus acros from Afghanistan to Assam...
I know your ``madarsah`` terminlgy is of ``madarsah `` of Osama ..just as it would be wrong of me to equate all christians being Jeery Falwell Oral Roberts ,Pat the Rat ............
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 1, 2003 09:52 am
#61
``The Mass Communication dept. at Jamia was the first of its kind, it was established to train students for a career in Mass Communications. It has students of all faiths and a good reputation in the Industry.``
-------------------------------
All faiths inabsence of schoolls are always welcome to study ..
Thionk of it as comnining western ed. with some muslim i.d.
The Hindu Camp or Sunday School allover usa both among imigrant Hindu And Muslim or even local christian is the sme need for preseving you past i.d.
How many ndian muslim attend a HinduCamp inCt. ?
I have said it befopre our first President Rajender Prasad ..a kayasth..fororientationurpiose ..had his ist day in school in madarsah of hos village so millions of Hindus acros from Afghanistan to Assam...
I know your ``madarsah`` terminlgy is of ``madarsah `` of Osama ..just as it would be wrong of me to equate all christians being Jeery Falwell Oral Roberts ,Pat the Rat ............
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
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#55 by nb on June 1, 2003 7:24am PT
That was an excellent article,Zarine.Trying to understand fellow humans and fellow Indians does not make you a Muslim Uncle(Aunty?) Tom.
52 by Studebaker on May 31, 2003 9:35pm PT
Would it enlighten you that Shahrukh Khan is a student of Madrsah Jama Millia School of Delhi Studnt of Mass Communication...!
Studebaker,
Jamia Islamia is not a madrasah at all!!That particular college is very good and a lot of Hindus go there too.As for school,SRK did his at St Columbas and was a very good student,school captain and all-round star.I have absolutely no idea about whether he went to a madrasa as well or not,as I do not have access to his entire personal history.I do know this much because a cousin was at school with him and always talking about this guy that was so brilliant at everything.I`m not sure,but I think he got IIT too.Do get your facts right.
BTW,I have tried and tried to make sense of your first 2 posts here.While I get the drift,the triple negatives escape me.I guess those of us that live in the land down under become simple minded.
--------------------------------
nb
I am sorry ...
I use many nicks here WITHOUT intention to deny any statements ``as a devils spokesman ``
I dont think there is one truth ..even if it is ..it DOES NOT matter in pragmatic sense ..
I wiil never met you you as Studebaker or as Dilshad .
Hence cyber uniqueness is all aboutMesage and NOT mesenger ...
To ne youmay be nb or Faruk or Dost ....its the same
I dont think my illustious family to include Sharukh as my cousineandi amhappy withot him...
Neither Hamidm ,Sameer or any one you say is MY cousin......
The fact is Chowk ia may be 5000 member cyber community
say 100 ppl at a time is on board
say 50 is on the thread you are or visited
hardly 1 0r 2 might be interste i your POV ( so to say )
How much of my time tience and refinement of pen manship shuold i invest insuch miniscule of attention!
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 1, 2003 09:52 am
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#55 by nb on June 1, 2003 7:24am PT
That was an excellent article,Zarine.Trying to understand fellow humans and fellow Indians does not make you a Muslim Uncle(Aunty?) Tom.
52 by Studebaker on May 31, 2003 9:35pm PT
Would it enlighten you that Shahrukh Khan is a student of Madrsah Jama Millia School of Delhi Studnt of Mass Communication...!
Studebaker,
Jamia Islamia is not a madrasah at all!!That particular college is very good and a lot of Hindus go there too.As for school,SRK did his at St Columbas and was a very good student,school captain and all-round star.I have absolutely no idea about whether he went to a madrasa as well or not,as I do not have access to his entire personal history.I do know this much because a cousin was at school with him and always talking about this guy that was so brilliant at everything.I`m not sure,but I think he got IIT too.Do get your facts right.
BTW,I have tried and tried to make sense of your first 2 posts here.While I get the drift,the triple negatives escape me.I guess those of us that live in the land down under become simple minded.
--------------------------------
nb
I am sorry ...
I use many nicks here WITHOUT intention to deny any statements ``as a devils spokesman ``
I dont think there is one truth ..even if it is ..it DOES NOT matter in pragmatic sense ..
I wiil never met you you as Studebaker or as Dilshad .
Hence cyber uniqueness is all aboutMesage and NOT mesenger ...
To ne youmay be nb or Faruk or Dost ....its the same
I dont think my illustious family to include Sharukh as my cousineandi amhappy withot him...
Neither Hamidm ,Sameer or any one you say is MY cousin......
The fact is Chowk ia may be 5000 member cyber community
say 100 ppl at a time is on board
say 50 is on the thread you are or visited
hardly 1 0r 2 might be interste i your POV ( so to say )
How much of my time tience and refinement of pen manship shuold i invest insuch miniscule of attention!
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