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S Malhica
I do admit that some of your arguments are totally convincing and make sense. Also your suggestions r pretty considerable but be a little more rational, accomodating and most importantly..
Chillax
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I invented that word ...from chill + Relax
Where did you see that ?????
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 14, 2003 06:22 am
S Malhica
I do admit that some of your arguments are totally convincing and make sense. Also your suggestions r pretty considerable but be a little more rational, accomodating and most importantly..
Chillax
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I invented that word ...from chill + Relax
Where did you see that ?????
The Truth About Karachi
like Hijab And womendriving
While skirting away at mention of Balfour Delaration`48 illegal gift .
Why the hell when Judiths live more in number in Usa than in Zion Land that they need a Israel ALA .Royal treatment
A resort in warm Arab Land for fun ..???
as if god send Gift to us deserves Royal treament ???
Apni Duniya AAp Paida Kar Agar Tou Zindoh Maine Hai ??
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Thy will never never appreciate you...
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 13, 2003 10:13 pm
Why get bothered by these unemployed Zionist (Jewish defense league) volunteers who keep raising non issues like Hijab And womendriving
While skirting away at mention of Balfour Delaration`48 illegal gift .
Why the hell when Judiths live more in number in Usa than in Zion Land that they need a Israel ALA .Royal treatment
A resort in warm Arab Land for fun ..???
as if god send Gift to us deserves Royal treament ???
Apni Duniya AAp Paida Kar Agar Tou Zindoh Maine Hai ??
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Thy will never never appreciate you...
The Truth About Karachi
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 13, 2003 10:13 pm
Some how for long time i always thaught of Karachi as RAANCHI a town in India known for Mental asylum .....
The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
``Mr. Chakrabortti’s “reasons” for buying stocks today (optimal inventory, profits rebound, restructuring, productivity, oil price and dollar..`` b/c he has to send his son to college and he does not have any alternative skill...!!
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 13, 2003 12:24 am
``Mr. Chakrabortti’s “reasons” for buying stocks today (optimal inventory, profits rebound, restructuring, productivity, oil price and dollar..`` b/c he has to send his son to college and he does not have any alternative skill...!!
The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
``Mr. Chakrabortti’s “reasons” for buying stocks today (optimal inventory, profits rebound, restructuring, productivity, oil price and dollar..`` b/c he has to send his son to college and he does not have any alternative skill...!!
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 13, 2003 12:24 am
``Mr. Chakrabortti’s “reasons” for buying stocks today (optimal inventory, profits rebound, restructuring, productivity, oil price and dollar..`` b/c he has to send his son to college and he does not have any alternative skill...!!
The Follies of the Natives
This is a good information for all . .Its Global view of hx. politics ,economics ,dev. for ALL .
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/lo/index.html
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 12, 2003 09:41 pm
This is a good information for all . .Its Global view of hx. politics ,economics ,dev. for ALL .
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/lo/index.html
Qualitative Education
If you are interted read the whole program COMMANDING heights ..Global economic Development ....
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/lo/index.html
Then if you change your mind .....
Globalism does not simply involve the exportation of wealth potential, but the exportation of values as well, such as a taste for money and material things. ... Whether we like to admit it or not, one of the keys to the success of the U.S. economy is that we consume, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars, things that we do not need for day-to-day living. Conspicuous consumption is one of the driving forces in the engine of American capitalism. What we saw happen in the developing Asian countries in a short period of time is that millions of people whose lives had been based on agriculture and subsistence living were suddenly consumed by materialism and the desire to better themselves materially. Young men in particular, seduced by the values of the West, moved to cities in search of employment. Overnight they changed the way in which they measured their well-being; no longer was it how much food they had to eat, whether the crop was good that year, or the vitality of their cultural traditions, but rather how much money they had, what material comforts they enjoyed, and how high up they were in the capitalist food chain.
[Something that should become more an active part of the debate is] what cost are we paying on a cultural level as the values of Western capitalism are exported along with its goods, markets, and capital flows? When measuring the success of globalism in the developing world, should we simply employ the material values of the West, or should we pay any attention to the values held by certain cultures prior to the onset of globalization? Why are not historians and anthropologists more an active part of the debate over globalization? ... Although more honesty and candor about this aspect of globalization will not likely slow its effects in countries where industrialization has already spread, it may assist communities which have not yet been affected (if there are any) to think carefully about giving approval for a new factory in their region, and to evaluate in a different way the promises of ``wealth`` and ``progress`` that are offered to them by Western bankers or corporations.
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 12, 2003 09:41 pm
BinaIf you are interted read the whole program COMMANDING heights ..Global economic Development ....
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/lo/index.html
Then if you change your mind .....
Globalism does not simply involve the exportation of wealth potential, but the exportation of values as well, such as a taste for money and material things. ... Whether we like to admit it or not, one of the keys to the success of the U.S. economy is that we consume, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars, things that we do not need for day-to-day living. Conspicuous consumption is one of the driving forces in the engine of American capitalism. What we saw happen in the developing Asian countries in a short period of time is that millions of people whose lives had been based on agriculture and subsistence living were suddenly consumed by materialism and the desire to better themselves materially. Young men in particular, seduced by the values of the West, moved to cities in search of employment. Overnight they changed the way in which they measured their well-being; no longer was it how much food they had to eat, whether the crop was good that year, or the vitality of their cultural traditions, but rather how much money they had, what material comforts they enjoyed, and how high up they were in the capitalist food chain.
[Something that should become more an active part of the debate is] what cost are we paying on a cultural level as the values of Western capitalism are exported along with its goods, markets, and capital flows? When measuring the success of globalism in the developing world, should we simply employ the material values of the West, or should we pay any attention to the values held by certain cultures prior to the onset of globalization? Why are not historians and anthropologists more an active part of the debate over globalization? ... Although more honesty and candor about this aspect of globalization will not likely slow its effects in countries where industrialization has already spread, it may assist communities which have not yet been affected (if there are any) to think carefully about giving approval for a new factory in their region, and to evaluate in a different way the promises of ``wealth`` and ``progress`` that are offered to them by Western bankers or corporations.
History Rehearsing: Dark Ages of Islam
An eye opener for ignoramus Islamus Hindian
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 12, 2003 12:21 am
http://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/An eye opener for ignoramus Islamus Hindian
History Rehearsing: Dark Ages of Islam
http://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/profilessaladin.html
Saladin, the Western name for the ruler Salah al-Din ibn Ayyub, was the great Muslim general who confronted the Crusaders in the Near East. Born to a Kurdish family active in Syria, Saladin reestablished a Sunni regime in Egypt in 1171 by putting an end to the last Shiite Fatimid caliph there.
Saladin, now sultan of Egypt, returned to Syria and soon captured Damascus, Aleppo, and Mosul from other Muslim princes. From this strong Syrian base, he then turned against the Crusaders, decisively defeating them at the battle of Hattin on July 4, 1187. The victory at Hattin was followed by the easy recon quest of various Crusader lands and towns, above all the holy city of Jerusalem, which had been in Christian hands for 88 years. Saladin waited to take possession of the city until October 2, because the date corresponded with the anniversary of the Prophet`s miraculous ascension to heaven, according to the Muslim calendar. In contrast to the Crusaders` bloodbath when they had taken Jerusalem, Saladin acted with great magnanimity to the Christian and Jewish residents. He forced the Franks to retreat to the coast of Syria and Palestine. In 1192 he signed a truce with Richard the Lionhearted. He died in the following year, but his descendants in the Ayyubid dynasty continued to rule in Egypt and Syria for several generations. Considered the model prince by Muslim admirers and Christian foes alike, Saladin has been memorialized in history and legend to the present day.
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 12, 2003 12:21 am
http://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/profilessaladin.html
Saladin, the Western name for the ruler Salah al-Din ibn Ayyub, was the great Muslim general who confronted the Crusaders in the Near East. Born to a Kurdish family active in Syria, Saladin reestablished a Sunni regime in Egypt in 1171 by putting an end to the last Shiite Fatimid caliph there.
Saladin, now sultan of Egypt, returned to Syria and soon captured Damascus, Aleppo, and Mosul from other Muslim princes. From this strong Syrian base, he then turned against the Crusaders, decisively defeating them at the battle of Hattin on July 4, 1187. The victory at Hattin was followed by the easy recon quest of various Crusader lands and towns, above all the holy city of Jerusalem, which had been in Christian hands for 88 years. Saladin waited to take possession of the city until October 2, because the date corresponded with the anniversary of the Prophet`s miraculous ascension to heaven, according to the Muslim calendar. In contrast to the Crusaders` bloodbath when they had taken Jerusalem, Saladin acted with great magnanimity to the Christian and Jewish residents. He forced the Franks to retreat to the coast of Syria and Palestine. In 1192 he signed a truce with Richard the Lionhearted. He died in the following year, but his descendants in the Ayyubid dynasty continued to rule in Egypt and Syria for several generations. Considered the model prince by Muslim admirers and Christian foes alike, Saladin has been memorialized in history and legend to the present day.
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
``There is no law in India that prohibits inter-caste marriage. There are no barriers in urban India against inter-caste marriage. Devadasi is not practised actively anymore``sayz bbabu
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You are making grave error .Govt of India or itsLaw is neither Hindu religion nor it can be compared to Christian or Islam religion.
Would it not be convenient for a Brahmin girl to mary a shudra next door instead (of to a brahmin will mary a brahmin boy 100 miles od seperation away) .
More over Bengali muslim never goes to mary in other FAR places..If more suitable in desirability has larger pool b/c thereis no barrier of Caste conversionhe or she can marry 99% of eligible within the available pool....
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 11, 2003 11:39 pm
#295``There is no law in India that prohibits inter-caste marriage. There are no barriers in urban India against inter-caste marriage. Devadasi is not practised actively anymore``sayz bbabu
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You are making grave error .Govt of India or itsLaw is neither Hindu religion nor it can be compared to Christian or Islam religion.
Would it not be convenient for a Brahmin girl to mary a shudra next door instead (of to a brahmin will mary a brahmin boy 100 miles od seperation away) .
More over Bengali muslim never goes to mary in other FAR places..If more suitable in desirability has larger pool b/c thereis no barrier of Caste conversionhe or she can marry 99% of eligible within the available pool....
Gujarat, Madrasas and Other Things
Urbashi
``Because I`m a Hindu I respect Islam and Christianity. Hinduism believes that all ways to God should be respected. If you`re a good Muslim or Christian - or atheist or agnostic or follower of any religious belief - you`re a good Hindu.``
Have you heard the protype of Hon Syed among the hindu side specially since you know the rise of Hindutva so a to rule a secular country where majority coalitionis Hindutva ..One of the manifesto And agenda is ``religion that originated in India be prevered religion``
Although Hon Syed is wrong in his attitude but as long as there are fewer egoist muslim the better but same is true among the racist and extremist philosophy of( Not necessarily hindui or hinduism)but political partys of hindutva
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 11, 2003 11:39 pm
#294Urbashi
``Because I`m a Hindu I respect Islam and Christianity. Hinduism believes that all ways to God should be respected. If you`re a good Muslim or Christian - or atheist or agnostic or follower of any religious belief - you`re a good Hindu.``
Have you heard the protype of Hon Syed among the hindu side specially since you know the rise of Hindutva so a to rule a secular country where majority coalitionis Hindutva ..One of the manifesto And agenda is ``religion that originated in India be prevered religion``
Although Hon Syed is wrong in his attitude but as long as there are fewer egoist muslim the better but same is true among the racist and extremist philosophy of( Not necessarily hindui or hinduism)but political partys of hindutva
Land of the Pure
I am QUOTING Muthuswamy to show how much some hindians hate muslims even of there own country (india)
Not that i care what you think of me .
You are free to think,i dont take such things personally ....
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 11, 2003 11:22 pm
#37 by hrrehman on June 9, 2003 6:10pm PTI am QUOTING Muthuswamy to show how much some hindians hate muslims even of there own country (india)
Not that i care what you think of me .
You are free to think,i dont take such things personally ....
Land of the Pure
#44 by harish_hyd on June 11, 2003 7:56am PT
#43 by ahmadzai on June 10, 2003 12:53pm PT
[She may not have experienced in Karachi bias, terror and Mulla influence, what you so dramatically pointed out.]
Take a pig out to a five-star hotel and it will immediately start searching for a gutter, and if it doesn`t find one, becomes restless. Bring it back to a slum and it will immediately settle down cosily in the nearest gutter. Similarly, men (and women) usually like to find surroundings in which they`re comfortable. This lady might have grown up in surroundings that she didn`t find in the US, and that`s why she returned to Pakistan. Plain and simple.
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H H
And i just heard from Mindian (ali87)on another board )Dost mittr`s) how many of his Hindian friends had also retutrned back to a worse..PIG STYE having gotten greencards ,citizenship of usa sans Ala which is even a more virulent extreme sow swine hoggish...to the other end ...
Kechr pe pathhar mat phego khud gande ho jao ge
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 11, 2003 11:22 pm
#44 by harish_hyd on June 11, 2003 7:56am PT
#43 by ahmadzai on June 10, 2003 12:53pm PT
[She may not have experienced in Karachi bias, terror and Mulla influence, what you so dramatically pointed out.]
Take a pig out to a five-star hotel and it will immediately start searching for a gutter, and if it doesn`t find one, becomes restless. Bring it back to a slum and it will immediately settle down cosily in the nearest gutter. Similarly, men (and women) usually like to find surroundings in which they`re comfortable. This lady might have grown up in surroundings that she didn`t find in the US, and that`s why she returned to Pakistan. Plain and simple.
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H H
And i just heard from Mindian (ali87)on another board )Dost mittr`s) how many of his Hindian friends had also retutrned back to a worse..PIG STYE having gotten greencards ,citizenship of usa sans Ala which is even a more virulent extreme sow swine hoggish...to the other end ...
Kechr pe pathhar mat phego khud gande ho jao ge
For Better or Worse
#60 by Saminasha on June 11, 2003 11:56am PT
Zahra,
Nicely answered! :)
Writer,
Jawad Asad`s opinion is clearly based on a lack of knowledge of the kinds of work the largest populations of women working West perform. Few women can afford cleaning and cooking services, women are paid less dollar for dollar than their male colleagues, and are also expected to conform to gender stereotypes when it comes to maternity leave (a woman will be expected to take ``disability`` leave after giving birth-paternity leave is not even acknowledged by mainsteam American business culture. Asad also conveniently omits the kinds of work that immigrant women perform both inside and outside of the home-in both spheres they are paid low-to no wages for low skill labor.
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Poor me
And was it not for that evil musklimmen wife beater ,hadud law practicer had not brought his wife and daughters here by sher his wil and enegy where these liberated khatons woud be ,MAY I ASK ?
I think if islam had not come to India all would be PholanDevi ..
Whats her fate you cansee ..Raped ,used abused and ultimately the heroineof heroine was not sopared to be MURDERED.....
So if you just rflect best of best scenerios would havebeenyou would be ded& murderd .
Of course just as 35 milin foeticids of female in Pounjab Delhi norh india alone .......
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 11, 2003 09:48 pm
#60 by Saminasha on June 11, 2003 11:56am PT
Zahra,
Nicely answered! :)
Writer,
Jawad Asad`s opinion is clearly based on a lack of knowledge of the kinds of work the largest populations of women working West perform. Few women can afford cleaning and cooking services, women are paid less dollar for dollar than their male colleagues, and are also expected to conform to gender stereotypes when it comes to maternity leave (a woman will be expected to take ``disability`` leave after giving birth-paternity leave is not even acknowledged by mainsteam American business culture. Asad also conveniently omits the kinds of work that immigrant women perform both inside and outside of the home-in both spheres they are paid low-to no wages for low skill labor.
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Poor me
And was it not for that evil musklimmen wife beater ,hadud law practicer had not brought his wife and daughters here by sher his wil and enegy where these liberated khatons woud be ,MAY I ASK ?
I think if islam had not come to India all would be PholanDevi ..
Whats her fate you cansee ..Raped ,used abused and ultimately the heroineof heroine was not sopared to be MURDERED.....
So if you just rflect best of best scenerios would havebeenyou would be ded& murderd .
Of course just as 35 milin foeticids of female in Pounjab Delhi norh india alone .......
History Rehearsing: Dark Ages of Islam
#32 by macgupta on June 11, 2003 6:02pm PT
Off-topic, but macgupta is Mac as in ``Apple Macintosh``. Nothing to do with putrid burgers.
Hot head Hindians all think they iNVNTED internet and computers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For each Time suckers see my post condescendingly ask to pay tribute to cod coolies ..
What is this 1/2 millioncode coolies influx seemto have made Hindians too important feelings ......
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 11, 2003 09:13 pm
#32 by macgupta on June 11, 2003 6:02pm PT
Off-topic, but macgupta is Mac as in ``Apple Macintosh``. Nothing to do with putrid burgers.
Hot head Hindians all think they iNVNTED internet and computers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For each Time suckers see my post condescendingly ask to pay tribute to cod coolies ..
What is this 1/2 millioncode coolies influx seemto have made Hindians too important feelings ......
History Rehearsing: Dark Ages of Islam
Spare useless blood shed , unnecessary sufferings and win heart by not force but as if those who have the tools and means to do good (for if not them then no one even if desirous can ...)
Only one man Salauddin Ayubi could determine whether future of Islam would be self destruct with circle of viscous killings ...one after another ..and only THOSE that have power to revers the circuitry cycle ,CAN !
Posted by
Studebaker
Jun 10, 2003 01:31 pm
IT IS IMPERATIVE UPON WEST TO RECIPROCATE THE MAGNANIMITY GENEROSITY FORGIVENESS AND RISE ABOVE SECTARIAN RELIGIOUS RACIAL INTEREST AND DO NOT WHAT WILL SATISFY ITS ANGER, VENGEANCE BRUTALITY BUT LIKE SALADIN AYUBI ..Spare useless blood shed , unnecessary sufferings and win heart by not force but as if those who have the tools and means to do good (for if not them then no one even if desirous can ...)
Only one man Salauddin Ayubi could determine whether future of Islam would be self destruct with circle of viscous killings ...one after another ..and only THOSE that have power to revers the circuitry cycle ,CAN !
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