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Women in Religious Scriptures
Posted by Roshan May 29, 2003 01:49 pm

I excluded the faults with iothers othewise i would be clled``hater``
What are women`s rights in Islam?
Courtesy of Islamic.Org


In a truely Islamic society women have the following rights in Islam: 1. The right and duty to obtain education.

2. The right to have their own independent property.

3. The right to work to earn money if they need it or want it.

4. Equality of reward for equal deeds.

5. The right to express their opinion and be heard.

6. The right to provisions from the husband for all her needs and more.

7. The right to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.

8. The right to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply can`t stand him. (pls note that God deeply frowns upon divorce as a solution unless there is hardly any other alternative but it does not mean that men have more right to divorce their wives than women do.)

9. The right to keep all her own money (she is not responsible to maintain any relations).

10. The right to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

11. custody of their children after divorce.

12. to refuse any marriage that does not please them

and more...

Here is an article taken from a speech which details some of these rights: Ideals and role models for women in Islam
 






Women in Religious Scriptures
Posted by Roshan May 29, 2003 01:49 pm
Women in Islam Versus Women in Christianity and Judaism:
The Myth & The Reality
PART ONE
1.INTRODUCTION / 2.EVE`S FAULT / 3.EVE`S LEGACY / 4.SHAMEFUL DAUGHTERS/ 5.FEMALE EDUCATION / 6.UNCLEAN IMPURE WOMAN / 7.BEARING WITNESS / 8.ADULTERY / 9.VOWS / 10.WIFE`S PROPERTY / 11.DIVORCE
PART TWO
12.MOTHERS / 13.FEMALE INHERITANCE / 14.PLIGHT OF WIDOWS / 15.POLYGAMY / 16.THE VEIL / 17.EPILOGUE / Notes




Rights
The Harsh Reality of Women`s Rights
The 12 Basic Rights of Women in Islam
The Rights, Ideals and Roles of Women in Islam
Women and True Education
Advice to Husbands, From a Husband
Marriage in Islam: Considered from a Legal Point of View
The Unhappy Wife
I am a Muslim Woman- equal to any man!
Elevation of Women`s Status
A World Where Womanhood Reigns Supreme
Status of Women in Islam
More Rights of Women in Islam - Liberation
117 reasons for The High Status of Women in Islam
Setting the record straight - Muslim Women HAVE RIGHTS!
Women & Islam: Separating Fact from Fiction
The Voice of Women in Islam
The Distorted Image of Muslim Women
Do we want Gold or Glitter?
Islam & The Feminist Movement
Enough Already!!
During Menstruation
Abortion
Gender Equity
Taliban`s policy on education of women
October is National Breast Cancer Awareness Month
Women`s Rights: The American Disappointment

Role
Aishah...The Mother of the Faithful
The life of Aishah - a role model for all women
Women in a Qur`anic Society
Qaradawi on Free-Mixing of Men and Women
Women in Dawah
In Recognition of Women
Muslim Women and Community Life
Man and Woman - A Comparative Study
Sexism and Islam
Online Book: Power Sharing Islam by Azzam Tamimi
The Rights, Ideals and Roles of Women in Islam
Obedience in The Taming of the Shrew: An Islamic Perspective
Islam on Role Differentiation
A Tribute to Mothers
Women and Economics
Advice to Husbands from a Husband
Women & Work
Can a Woman Hold a Position of Convicting Males?
A Case for Home-Schooling
Women and Sports
An Islamic Perspective on Women and Sports
Motherhood
Role of a Muslim Woman as a Mother
Home, Sweet Home

Hijaab

Quranic Verses about Hijab
Basic FAQ on Hijaab
Hijaab - An Effective form of Dawah
The Veil as a Political Metaphor
A lesson to be learned
The Veil Is Not Oppression, It’s Chic,
Women in Religious Scriptures
Posted by Roshan May 29, 2003 11:55 am

Justaju jis ki thii usko to na payaa hamne,

WHERE DID YOU READ IN ISLAMIC LITERATURE THAT ALL MEN ARE SUPERIOR TO ALL WOMEN...or somewhat similar surreptisiously placed sentence you slippped in...

Getting` need to do this and that from non muslims (or nomenclatured muslims is what you have done ......

Trembling Camera Flare on a Column Within a Column
Posted by Roshan May 28, 2003 10:16 pm

#8GNH

.``NO LOVE, JUST HOLY MATRIMONY under GOD``


Whats Love GOTTO Do Withit ??

seriouisly

Who need a heart ache whenheart can be broken


Whats love gotto do withit ?


Seriously ,i have found much happppier couple who didnt swoon each other like swan in the Lahore Khi Zoo..

And Tina is much happpier married inEurope from the first love of TURNER !
Trembling Camera Flare on a Column Within a Column
Posted by Roshan May 28, 2003 10:16 pm

Why are you so obtusively abusive on`Chowk Unplugged` Zee Mehmud ?


I think you will good reviews for WWF world wide h.w. wwww championship & rough and tough heavy weight boxing match ..


You almost physically attack the reader ,.scarey ,.
Trembling Camera Flare on a Column Within a Column
Posted by Roshan May 28, 2003 10:16 pm


#4 by stuka on May 28, 2003 1:04pm PT
Dude, why don`t you pay attention to the matrimonials for guys? he world has changed and power has shifted to the women. Try hitting on girls and maybe after ten tries one will give you her number. Even in the arranged marriage scene, the situation for guys is pretty sad.

Unless you have a six figure income as a doctor or an investment banker, ain`t no one even gonna look at you.
--------------------------------------

This country is wrong place tp lok for good wife .....

Better indo pak or others ..take time off .. i found mine ..not through anyone ..just looking lokng looking....
How to kill your Wife (Unedited)
Posted by Roshan May 28, 2003 07:23 pm





arulouis@aol.com

I am upto neck with westernfeminism......

It seems like Feminism is going to save the humanity as September bombing of Japan......

Besides lessening responsinilities

of earning ,Girl pay for bein feminist


raising children



just have to kill his eastern machismo ..


you neednt become ..IAS officer ,Engineer Doctor,Scientists ,just let these ladies have there way ..

Some like me are not against it ..more power to woman ...but how long ....at the end of it all some body has to pay ..i am willing partner in it and i dont care where irreligious world goes (im no saviour of humanity).....

I dont like working hard ....

Finaly AZAD ...............










n a





http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/columnists/orl-ent-edwards0523,0,5513407.column



Newlywed game goes by price is right rules
Published May 23, 2003


By Eric Edwards

I`m thinking about moving to India.

They say Kashmir is beautiful this time of year; I think henna tattoos can be very sexy; I love spicy lamb vindaloo; and apparently the men over there are just swimming in dating options.

It might never have occurred to most single men that the answer to their relationship woes lies thousands of miles across the planet in the world`s second most populous nation.

But it must be true.

Last week, it was reported that Nisha Sharma, a 21-year-old Indian woman, was all set to get hitched to 25-year-old Munish Dalal when Dalal`s parents upped the ante. On the day of the wedding, the groom`s family decided that the two televisions, two home-theater sets, two refrigerators, two air conditioners and one car was not an ample enough dowry to warrant their son`s affections. They also wanted $25,000 in rupees.

I`ve never been married, but the women I`ve dated long enough to chat about the subject of weddings insisted that their parents probably were not going to spring for the entire cost of the ceremony. In each instance, I shook my head in despair, raised my fists toward the heavens and shouted, ``Why me, Lord? Why me?``

Not really.

Really, I looked at the prospective Mrs. Edwards, took her by the hand and said: ``I want you, not some circus extravaganza of a wedding.``

The fact that I didn`t marry any of these fine women is no indication that my greedy heart shifted gears when I discovered their parents didn`t own copper mines or were not heavily invested in Halliburton.

But I guess I have been going about things the wrong way.

And I`m sure when my parents read Miss Sharma`s tale, they will agree with me. They may even foot the bill for my plane ticket to the single man`s promised land.

I know my dad has always wanted a 40-foot cabin cruiser. And I`m sure with my winning smile and rugged good looks, I`d be worth at least one cabin cruiser in the New Delhi dating market.

It turns out, however, that Mr. Dalal was not worth quite that much because Miss Sharma dumped him on his rupee-grubbing tush.

``Are they marrying with money or marrying with me?`` she reportedly said last week, though that question had clearly been answered.

I blame American family values and romantic comedies for my misplaced priorities of love over money.

After all, a Sub Zero refrigerator and a 46-inch plasma television seem like perfectly acceptable tokens of adoration.

Who cares about mushy love poems that are mere windows into the soul of your partner? Why bother with intimacy and passion when you can just as easily move to India and get a new Range Rover and a matching set of Ping golf clubs with a lifetime supply of balls. I`m a terrible golfer, though, so the lifetime supply of balls might get expensive after just a month or two.

Meanwhile, it turns out that dowries have been illegal for almost 20 years now. Yet they remain quite customary, with the bounty being offered in the form of Cuisinarts, summer homes and other things thinly veiled as ``gifts`` to the groom`s family.

That goes to show you that there`s a legacy of stupidity running fiercely through Mr. Dalal`s bloodline. It makes one wonder if Miss Sharma was more offended by having the stakes raised at the last minute or by the fact that her offspring would likely be well-suited only for jobs as Brooklyn loan sharks.

Either way, her wounded pride did not keep her from calling the police and having her fiancé thrown into jail for his avarice.

So maybe I`ll hold off on my great Indian dating excursion -- at least until the Indian legislature wises up and repeals the silly law that could land me in roundhouse for telling the woman I love that the two-carat diamond engagement ring she gave me does not sparkle nearly as brightly as the four-carat one I had my eye on.
How to kill your Wife (Unedited)
Posted by Roshan May 28, 2003 07:23 pm





arulouis@aol.com

I am upto neck with westernfeminism......

It seems like Feminism is going to save the humanity as September bombing of Japan......

Besides lessening responsinilities

of earning ,Girl pay for bein feminist


raising children



just have to kill his eastern machismo ..


you neednt become ..IAS officer ,Engineer Doctor,Scientists ,just let these ladies have there way ..

Some like me are not against it ..more power to woman ...but how long ....at the end of it all some body has to pay ..i am willing partner in it and i dont care where irreligious world goes (im no saviour of humanity).....

I dont like working hard ....

Finaly AZAD ...............










n a





http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/columnists/orl-ent-edwards0523,0,5513407.column



Newlywed game goes by price is right rules
Published May 23, 2003


By Eric Edwards

I`m thinking about moving to India.

They say Kashmir is beautiful this time of year; I think henna tattoos can be very sexy; I love spicy lamb vindaloo; and apparently the men over there are just swimming in dating options.

It might never have occurred to most single men that the answer to their relationship woes lies thousands of miles across the planet in the world`s second most populous nation.

But it must be true.

Last week, it was reported that Nisha Sharma, a 21-year-old Indian woman, was all set to get hitched to 25-year-old Munish Dalal when Dalal`s parents upped the ante. On the day of the wedding, the groom`s family decided that the two televisions, two home-theater sets, two refrigerators, two air conditioners and one car was not an ample enough dowry to warrant their son`s affections. They also wanted $25,000 in rupees.

I`ve never been married, but the women I`ve dated long enough to chat about the subject of weddings insisted that their parents probably were not going to spring for the entire cost of the ceremony. In each instance, I shook my head in despair, raised my fists toward the heavens and shouted, ``Why me, Lord? Why me?``

Not really.

Really, I looked at the prospective Mrs. Edwards, took her by the hand and said: ``I want you, not some circus extravaganza of a wedding.``

The fact that I didn`t marry any of these fine women is no indication that my greedy heart shifted gears when I discovered their parents didn`t own copper mines or were not heavily invested in Halliburton.

But I guess I have been going about things the wrong way.

And I`m sure when my parents read Miss Sharma`s tale, they will agree with me. They may even foot the bill for my plane ticket to the single man`s promised land.

I know my dad has always wanted a 40-foot cabin cruiser. And I`m sure with my winning smile and rugged good looks, I`d be worth at least one cabin cruiser in the New Delhi dating market.

It turns out, however, that Mr. Dalal was not worth quite that much because Miss Sharma dumped him on his rupee-grubbing tush.

``Are they marrying with money or marrying with me?`` she reportedly said last week, though that question had clearly been answered.

I blame American family values and romantic comedies for my misplaced priorities of love over money.

After all, a Sub Zero refrigerator and a 46-inch plasma television seem like perfectly acceptable tokens of adoration.

Who cares about mushy love poems that are mere windows into the soul of your partner? Why bother with intimacy and passion when you can just as easily move to India and get a new Range Rover and a matching set of Ping golf clubs with a lifetime supply of balls. I`m a terrible golfer, though, so the lifetime supply of balls might get expensive after just a month or two.

Meanwhile, it turns out that dowries have been illegal for almost 20 years now. Yet they remain quite customary, with the bounty being offered in the form of Cuisinarts, summer homes and other things thinly veiled as ``gifts`` to the groom`s family.

That goes to show you that there`s a legacy of stupidity running fiercely through Mr. Dalal`s bloodline. It makes one wonder if Miss Sharma was more offended by having the stakes raised at the last minute or by the fact that her offspring would likely be well-suited only for jobs as Brooklyn loan sharks.

Either way, her wounded pride did not keep her from calling the police and having her fiancé thrown into jail for his avarice.

So maybe I`ll hold off on my great Indian dating excursion -- at least until the Indian legislature wises up and repeals the silly law that could land me in roundhouse for telling the woman I love that the two-carat diamond engagement ring she gave me does not sparkle nearly as brightly as the four-carat one I had my eye on.
Women in Religious Scriptures
Posted by Roshan May 26, 2003 05:03 pm
``This not withstanding, all women are to respect all men.``

How did you get this in surreptisiously ....


Should i doubt your knowledge or ignorance

Furthemore .........

Qualitative Education
Posted by Roshan May 26, 2003 12:53 pm
Its not he first time somthing is being sold to us from MIDDLE Men.

If you wonder Salman Rushdie s fans are all tatoo of their adoprte english ..taste of Hamidm ,irreligopusness of Sameer ,even secterianian attemt at hijacking ISLAM

KNOW the seeds MC Auley (Macauley ) injected in British endorsed brain washing them.........

Back to Modern History SourceBook
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1833macaulay-india.html
Modern History Sourcebook:
Thomas Babington Macaulay (1800-1859):
On Empire and Education

The first selection a speech on the India bill of 1833 and expresses his view of the achievements and goals of the British Empire in the East. Between 1834 and 1838 he lived in Calcutta and served on the British ``Supreme Council for India``. His ``Minute on Education, `` from which the second selection below comes, touches on the relation of Western and Indian civilizations.

....
The Beginning of the End of the Kashmir Problem
Posted by Roshan May 17, 2003 09:16 pm
IMy service to Country is On Going .She is DEAD

e,g, of MY countries WO mEN ...



Slain Madhumita`s poems emit fire on Pakistan
-------------------------------------------------





By Vinay Krishna Rastogi in Lucknow

Leaders of the RSS and BJP are now regretting that were in the dark about the fire-power of poetess Madhumita who could have instilled patriotism with her Veer Ras poetry for the Sangh Parivaar. She could have been a great rabble-rouser admits Founder-President of Bajrang Dal Vinay Katiyar. It is sad we could not adopt her during her life says Katiyar who is also the BJP Uttar Pradesh unit President.

The firepower of her patriotic poems is mind-boggling. They emit more brimstone and fire than the trio Dr Praveenbhai Togadia, Sadhvi Ritambara and Ashok Singhal combined.

According to her family, the poetess was writing the latest poem which was a vitriolic attack on Pakistan President Parvez Mushrraf. But, she had left her work incomplete.

The People only know that this small town girl belonging to Lakhimpur Kheri district had a colourful reputation with men. But she was a vitriolic and hard-boiled Hindu. In her poem titled Benazir which she recited at a Kavi Sammelan at Neemech recently she says `` Jaag Chuke Sita Ke Bete, Kafan Orh Kar Aayenge; Benazir Tere Sine Me, Ham Bhagwa Dhwaj Pahrayenge/ Khula Ailan Karti Hoon, Babur Ki Aulado Sun Lo, Jaise Ayodhya Mukta Karayi, Mathura Bhi Mukta Karayenge`` (Sita`s sons have woken up and it is their death wish to unfurl the saffron flag on Benazir`s Bhutto`s chest. Listen O` sons of Babur just as we have liberated Ayodhya so we shall liberate Mathura).

In her poem titled Benazir she had once exhorted youths at a Kavi Sammelan to shed blood in Pakistan : Ghus Kar Veeron Seema Me Ye Kaam Kijiye; Pakistan Me Jaa Kar Katle Aam Kijiye; Aur Karachi Par Guunje Bam Bam; Likh De Benazir Par Vande Matram (Rise up youths, barge into Pakistan and indulge in mass slaughter. The blasts should be heard till Karachi. Inscribe Vande Matram on Benazir`s body).

She was in favour of total ban on cow slaughter. In one of her poems she wrote: ``Is Hindustan Ka Kaisa Samvidhan; Ho Raha Desh Me Gau Mata Ka Katan; Roshni Tumhe Apni Dikhana Parega. Sansad Ko Jai Shri Ram Gana Parega( Shame on India`s Constitution which has not been able to stop slaughter of Mother Cow. Listen to me Oh MPs one day you will have to sing Jai Shri Ram``.

Madhumita was the daughter of a small-time forest employee`s union leader Kamta Prasad Shukla. Kamta himself was a rabid Hindu and had hated Mulayam Singh Yadav for ordering firing on Kar Sewaks so much so that he even contested election against Mulayam Singh Yadav as an independent from Etawah, the home turf of the Samajwadi Party leader. Madhumita was among the three daughters from Kamta`s second wife Shanti Devi. He died in 1996.

Family members of the slain poetess say that she was a child prodigy. She had composed poems even when she was 12 years old. She worshipped Goddess Saraswati (the Goddess of Learning) every day.

In Kavi Sammelans she was always in great demand for her ``Veer Ras`` recitations.











Women in Religious Scriptures
Posted by Roshan May 17, 2003 09:16 pm


#20

``I do not find it fair to expect that all the Muslims will follow the compassionate discourses of Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani or diligently read the Tafheem`ul`Quran by Late Maulana Maudoodi. Personally, I`ve been exposed to both angles very closely. And, can appreciate the strengths and weaknesses of both sides. In that context, I disagree with your train of thought(I doubt that you were leaning there, but just wanted to bring it up). But on comparing the extremes, I do agree with you``

I have not and i dont think you have to .



Who has right to crticise whom ..WITHOUT REASON..no one,

Mostly it is purely based on `CHEMISTRY `..you just dont LIKE it ..not b/c you anything wrong ..like Jefferson did not like BLACKS ..there was NO reason as i see it .


If some one is quiet all problems would be solved after your hated object is not ``ASKING FOR FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE BENEFACTOR OF IT OR SUSTAINER OF IT .IF NOT then WHO GOD DAMN GIVES YOU RIGHT TO ASK DO THINGS ACCORDING TO YOUR GOD DAMN WAYS...
Women in Religious Scriptures
Posted by Roshan May 17, 2003 06:54 pm

Sure some Hindus dont educate there women


SADNA

``If India is not a Hindu homeland, is it right to turn around and ask India and Indian Muslims to bear the CONTINUING political cost of MORE deals with Pakistanis who already took away what was yours ``

Asks her Men to educate her
The Beginning of the End of the Kashmir Problem
Posted by Roshan May 17, 2003 05:09 pm

106#ARSIM ..backwards

``now we are 85% or so..enough...won`t go down any furhter. ``

only morons, can be foolhardy like you





Atleast i know in that 85% was counted b/c i registered as Hindu .But dont at all believe in IT ..

So if you think that number could be anywhere from 4 in your family of which you can speake to xyz...


And even 100% of registerd as Hindu does not take away the the mind to THINK OTHERWISE and FREE from clutches of mythology !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT CAN YOU DO ???????????????
Women in Religious Scriptures
Posted by Roshan May 17, 2003 03:07 pm

#15 by nazarhayatkhan on May 17, 2003 1:11pm PT

Reply # 11 ZahraJ

I agree with you.

PLZ do not talk about MUSLIMS.Plz. only speak about your experience as Punjabi Pakistani .

You have no right to represent or speak for Ummah nor have they asked you to do so .I may however listen to you as Punjabi Pakistani .
The Wheels of Time
Posted by Roshan May 17, 2003 03:07 pm

#25 by sadna on May 17, 2003 11:49am PT
12-head #24
``I am most dissappointed in a peacenik who justifies settlement by threat of ANGER ``

Allah has ordained that only Muslims have the right to be angry and justify settlement by threat of anger, of course. What a set of hypocrites
-------------------------------------------
Atleast i am not the `aman ka farishta certificate hold karne walla `here atleast .


Hypocrites are who say somthing that they do not mean honestly or apply DOUBLE standatrd.Untill you prove that to me,I reamain innocent untill proven otherwise by you .
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