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Bishop Spong’s Critique of the Traditional Christianity
Lafangi: According to Time magazine, you are a rational person who believes in evolution and rejects miracles and inconsistencies in the bible as not the word of God..

Bishop Sponge Bob: Yet I wear a watch to bed..

Lafangi: Umm, what does that have to do with what we are talking about?

Bishop Sponge Bob: You see, I have this need to keep time ALL the time. I don`t think, as conscious human beings, we can go about our business unaware of the time of the day..

Lafangi: I kinda agree with that although I can imagine some people not keeping time and still being able to function and some others can have what is called a mental clock.. but what does this have to with you being rational?

Bishop Sponge Bob: I was just explaining my primal urge to keep time and how I do it. It is important to me that my watch is accurate otherwise I`ll be seriously out of synch..

Lafangi: Do you wear it 24/7?

Bishop Sponge Bob: Nooooooo, only when I am naked. When I am wearing clothes, I don`t need to wear a watch.

Lafangi: I`m almost scared to ask why..

Bishop Sponge Bob: Because I know the time when I am wearing clothes. When I am naked in the bathroom or when I sleep, that`s when I need the watch.

Lafangi: I wish kaka was here to pursue the questions in that direction, but lemme go back to the reasons why you criticize the bible as inconsistent and old fashioned.

Bishop Sponge Bob: You should check out my book `http://chowk.com/show_article.cgi?aid=00004486&channel=university%20ave` for details. But in short, in the Bible there are conflicting accounts of creation, conflicting versions of the Ten Commandments, conflicting understandings of who Jesus is and was, conflicting details concerning what happened on the first Easter, conflicting views on the meaning of Pentecost, and even on when, or if, the end of the world will come. There are concepts in the Bible that are repugnant to the modern consciousness. There is a vicious tribal code of ethics that prohibits internally behavior that is actually encouraged in dealing with outsiders. Moses was a murderer, but this was not a character flaw because his victim was an Egyptian (Exod. 2:11 ff)…Adultery was said to be evil, but both Abraham and Isaac tried to pass their wives off as their sisters, even though this meant having them sexually used by Abimelech, king of Gerar (Gen. 21:1-18; 26:6-11)…Captive peoples, if spared from death, were reduced to slavery. Captive women were used for sexual sport by their Hebrew conquerors. Judah treated his daughter in law Tamar as a prostitute and then proposed to kill her when she became pregnant (Genesis 38)…God appeared in some passages to be not only a nationalistic deity but also as a sadistic one who delighted even in killing the first-born in every Egyptian household (Exod. 11:4-6),” (10). So on and so forth.

Lafangi: And yet you believe that you can tell time by wearing clothes.

Bishop Sponge Bob: Listen, fifty years ago my grandfather gave this antique clock that I keep in my basement. It is an exquisite artifact that is dear to my heart. But do I go by the time that it tells me?

Lafangi: Err.. is it because it`s broken?

Bishop Sponge Bob: Exactly! You are smart! Why do you hang out with that imbecile kaka?

Lafangi: Because he goes well with the rest of the furniture.. khair I hope you realize that even your broken clock tells the EXACT TIME TWICE A DAY!

Bishop Sponge Bob: That is a facetious argument. My watch keeps pace with the rest of the world. All that antique clock does is just stay the same way, and obviously the time will eventually coincide with WHAT it SAYS AT SOME POINT! After all its a cycle..

Lafangi: Bishop Bahadur, it was a joke for godssake! But it made me think about something deeper.. you know, how even static things get it right just out of luck or is it because the history tends to repeat itself.

Bishop Sponge Bob: Exactly! Suppose if the face of the clock, instead of numbers and hands, had neon lights and potpourrie in it. It wouldn`t be able to tell time even once!

Lafangi: Such wisdom! In my family of watch-wearers, some of us keep our watches ahead by 5, 10 or even 15 minutes. But I still don`t get the part about you believing that you can tell time just by wearing clothes.

Bishop Sponge Bob: As long as the watch is moving, it is OK but nobody should go by a broken watch. That is just insane!

Lafangi: You are still not explaining why you would take off your watch when you get dressed. Why not go all the way and KEEP THE WATCH ON All THE TIME so that you know the time all the time..

Bishop Sponge Bob: It is not a superstition.. It makes sense from the point of view of someone who needs to wear clothes to go out.

Lafangi: Abay, who is saying not to wear clothes. Why not keep the watch on All THE TIME if you need to keep time All THE TIME! Why are you claiming that you don`t need the watch while you are wearing clothes. Not that I am saying that you need to tell the time all the time..

Bishop Sponge Bob: I am not saying that people who wear the watch all the time are doing anything wrong. They have their own reality to take care of. It does make sense to wear it, but I don`t need to wear it while I am clothes.

Lafangi: Bishop BhosRi-kay! Why are you being so rational and everything and still keeping this indefensible belief!

Bishop Sponge Bob: Why is that such a big issue anyway? How does it harm anyone if I keep believing in this? I believe in human rights, women`s rights, evolution and I also make sure that my caesium watch is kept accurate by Greenwich Mean Time which is the standard in the world.

Lafangi: You are not wearing any watch right now, since I see you are wearing clothes. What time is it right now?

Bishop Sponge Bob: It is daytime right now, I can also tell you that it`s night time on the opposite side of the globe.

Lafangi: ullay kay paTThay, I am going to look at my watch right now as you tell me the exact time.

Bishop Sponge Bob: If you are going to go by the objective exact time in seconds and milliseconds, then it might change as I speak right now.

Lafangi: Bishop BhaRvay, the exact time is what right now...?

Bishop Sponge Bob: Nobody has all the answers to each and every qestion. Daytime is the right time to look at God`s creation and think about how wonderful it all meshes together.

Lafangi: Oh my gawd, its already 5`o clock. This interview took too long. I gotta ask you a last prepared question.

Bishop Sponge Bob: I was gonna say about fivish too. Anyways, what is your question?

Lafangi: After all the criticism of bible and mircales within it, are you still a Christian who believes in God and Jesus?

Bishop Sponge Bob: Yes, I do. It is sometimes daunting to maintian faith in face of the objective reality of science but my faith is totally different than, say, how my grandfather`s faith was. He used to take the Bible from off the top of his big antique clock and read it every morning. He actually believed that the Bible was the literal word of God. Haha.

Lafangi: I think it`s kinda cool that you have maintained your faith in God and Jesus even if you criticise the Bible the way that you do.

Bishop Sponge Bob: Thank you. Don`t you think it`s kinda cool out here today. I should have worn something warmer today..

Hey JC, won’t you smile for me? Versey and temporal,

kaka seriously advises you two to take a course in critical thinking and then revise the following O`levelish rantings:

`This seems to be okay for our culture, but for a society that markets its gods as ‘human’, they create a hue and cry when they are flashed on certain commodities`

[there is no unifying, universal rule which should seem `hypocritical` here. The point of humanizing and cheapening God is unclear but even if it is clear.. PLEASE its juvenile..]

`The American manufacturers are bad marketing people, for sure/Frankly, this group is hardly likely to buy those precious commodes to offend anyone.`

[An immature attempt to claim a sweeping knowledge of all things with a sweeping statement and then distracted by your own mindlessness]

`What about the Mary Magdalenes waiting in the wings, the Judases who, despite their treachery or perhaps because of it, become heroic enough for taking on the messiahs, or even the Christ who cries out, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”`

[Irrelevant rehtorical device hacked to death. There is such a thing as STUPID questions]

`This probably explains why even Judas went against him / there are psychological aspects too / He was jealous of the fame of a man who appeared so deceptively simple. The “thirty pieces of silver” were not to betray, but to seek out his own identity. That is why I find his crucifixion even more tragic. Because he was his own victim.`

[Jesus surviving crucifixion is not exactly a bolt of light. Some suppressed gospels have been examined and the evidence for other details is available for further evaluation. What is cheap is psycho-babble over affairs separated by huge periods and cultural paradigms. `Seeking his own identity/pieces of silver` has the appropriate punchline of, `Everyone has an opinion as well as an asshole`].

`Simply because I have touched him - a swarthy man robed in white, making me want to call out to him, “Hey JC, won’t you smile for me?”`

[Too schoolish approach to end the an essay with a bang, but first work on the body. And no Judas wasn`t crucified. He threw himself off a cliff if these same sources are to be believed].

Overall, a typical case of padding up with rhetorical questions of little relevance and feigned anguish. The remedy is to take a course in critical thinking and logical fallacies. India must have some college offering these.

Socio-political History of Modern Pop Music in Pakistan Copy and paste 2 CONNECTIONS that can be logically supported to be cause-and-effect..

Just like the kids copying western music, he too is attempting to monkey whatever `socio-political` analysis a western historian attempts. Part of it is his general inability to compete in a real environment of informed opinion making, rendering him suitable for championing a third-world pop culture.

Part of it is being talentless in appreciating sound bytes independent of their creators, ideologies or accompanying O`levelish BS.

Socio-political History of Modern Pop Music in Pakistan A chutya attempt by tone-deaf Paraacha to divorce music from sound bytes and putting the `deeper socio-political` pseudo-intellectual spin on it.

Consider the following bakvaas and extrapolate how it could have affected music in any form..

`Weekly Times magazine puts NWFP governor; Fazal-e-Haq in its list of the world’s ten richest generals. The said issue is at once banned by the Zia government.`

The truth is, the urban kids were and are mimicking western pop in whatever accessible form, with a smattering of whatever shared heritage they have with music across the border.

The only political (Paracha, being a chutya, does not access to these insights) correspondence TO ACTUAL music was Noor JahaN and Mehdi Hassan recording patriotic songs for free for soldiers in the `65 war..

Another one is the use of popular melodies to record campaign songs during elections.. <- Paracha chutya, now that`s socio-political..

In a bigger context, a lot of Faiz`s works were sought out to be recorded by people like Tina Saani.. Even Anjuman, the Punjabi leading lady, wanted to be known as a Faiz`s appreciator on Naeem Bukhaari`s `Bila-takalluf`.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The greatest act of mediocrity was the leftists crowd, force-feeding `local, folk` music from out of PTV. A lot of local folk music from Sindh, Balochistaan and.. GET THIS.. KAALAASH was encouraged. A classic case of chutya marxist ideologues letting their ideolgies govern musical sensibilities.

When Vagina met Viagra `We are not looking for attention`. Explained the twins, `Is that so hard to understand? Maybe its 9-11, maybe we don`t want to be sucked into the abyss of altoids.`
`Nine-eleven?` Lafangi exclaimed, `I had no idea you two followed current affairs! I always took you two as just some nuts hangin` out to have a good time`.

`Madam, we`ve been around and have opinions on numerous issues. In fact, we plan to co-author a book on the things that we`ve been privy to.`

`Haha. Like what?`

`We don`t like to comment on work-in-progress. Suffice is to say that we hold expertise on several types of ethnic kittens and other pussies.`

`Is that right? Hmmm, but what is that 9-11 about? What do you guys care?`

`Believe it or not, 9-11 affected us both in the most personal of ways. You see, we were getting a trim when the phone rang and some CNN ki aulaad informed bhaijaan about the Twin Towers being brought down by airplanes. Bhaijaan, being a choot kay nai, lost control of the scissors. With one hand on the phone and the other on the scissors, he just..just... It was a minor gash, but in the shape of a smile it seemed so cruel. We had no choice but to call the tragedy 9-11. It is easier to curse it if you have name for it.`

`Truly heartbreaking, but its been a while, no? Ab tak tau zakham bhar gaya hogaa`.

`Bibi, in your havas do not forget that we have also been scarred psychologically! To risk an adventure in the cave of incisors and molars is akin to throwing mirage chikna into a cave of Taliban. Sirf khoon hi khoon hoga. Sirf khoon!`

`Aray, maiN kaaTtee thoRi hooN!`

`Nai! Go suck an egg or.. Lallu. He`s sensitive to your adventures`.

`Aray bhae, variety bhee koi cheez hoti hay. Acha aik pappi tau laynay do..`

`Nai! We don`t trust you.`

`How can you always both speak as one? Don`t you two ever have any disagreements?`

`Nai`.

`How could that be?`

`9-11 struck us right in the centre. We have been victims in equal measures. But, alhamdulillah, the tragedy has drawn us even closer and united us on several fronts. We reconsidered our philosophy of existence too`

`How so?`

`Our philosophy used to be just plain nutty. No sense, no nothing. Now we think there`s more to it. We will have more of a ballsy approach to life as you`ll see.`

`I admire your ittehaad. Not everyone has the balls like you two.`

`We don`t like to talk about it too much. It is only through the grace of God that we have not been sucked into the hole of personal pride or the jaws of a minty mouth.. We just hang loose and let the world be.`

When Vagina met Viagra Lallu confided that he had a dilemma, which it certainly was not. Dilemma, properly defined, is having to make a choice between atleast two UNACCEPTABLE options. But there was nothing unacceptable about the options in this hole situation:
Lallu and Bushra were smoothly slip-sliding away until Lallu happened to bump into Asim. After the intial salaam-alaik, Lallu started to spend some time with Asim. Initially, Bushra didn`t mind Lallu expanding his circle of chums.
`As long as Lallu cums either to see me or in Asim, it`s all good`, She figured.
Now Bushra and Asim have been neighbors for a long time. They get their hair-cuts together and those have been happening more frequently since Pinkie `n Twinkie moved upstairs. But they never exchanged hellos or anything else for that matter. Bushra has been busy mutltitasking, `fluidly` moving from one task to another. Asim, when he gets bored with his monotonous routine, plays the trumpet for everyone`s amusement. Heck, he even plays during heavy work-LOADS!
`The pressure to play the trumpet is huge.` He once related to Lallu. `There`s something inside me that just compels me to it. I feel that there`s a source from up above that speaks through me`. Lallu was duly impressed but Bushra dismissed the whole act as Asim`s attempts at being artsy-fartsy..
She then went on to accuse Lallu of sucking up to Asim at the expense of ignoring her. That`s when Lallu ignited:
`See, I can`t chaaT with you, when you are doing your monthly cleaning, throwing away eggs and whatnot. What is a Lallu to do during that time, huh?` asked Lallu, giving Bushra a jab with his head.
`Tumhay Allah kaa waastaa hay, jhoot mut bolo! You are soo eager to get down and dirty with Asim, that you`ll take all kinds of beer sheer to have fun. It`s not natural for two guys to be coupling up so often, ya know`. Bushra protested.
Lallu screamed, `Mohtarmaa, you already have forbidden me to take any juice shoos from your place. What am I supposed to do? Do you know how hot and dry it gets inside Asim`s place? And what seems `coupling` to you is really heated discussions. Asim and I do not exactly hug each other in there. There`s a lotta friction between us and that`s when the Gin `n Tonic smoothen the the `whole` deal`.
Bushra whined, `But how come we never get to do fun things anymore? We used to go to our favorite spot. I miss that`.
`Yaar, don`t call `G`, OUR favorite spot! You are the only one who gets thrills out of it. I just go there because of you! And the location of `G` is still a mystery to me. Your directions are useless and I get tired of turning left and then up and down and then up again. Normal people just go in there for a little run; get pumped and leave. You make me dig like I`m some kinda gHassiyaaraa!` Lallu retorted.
`If you just stopped to consult Gray`s atlas then maybe we can get to our love-spot sooner. You men think it`s somehow degrading to stop and get directions`.
`Ooho! Whenever I stop, you are like chalo, chalo. Please don`t stop. Please don`t!`
`But that doesn`t justify you getting so tight with Asim. And please don`t feel flattered when he hugs you; I see him hugging anything and everything all day long. I don`t want to soil my lips with a gaalee but GAWD, I hate that asshole`.
`Don`t feel too guilty. He calls you the `C` word which, if you ask me, you are.`
`Accha, ab baiThay baiThay baitaiN na banao. KhaRay ho kar kuch kaam karo!`
`Abay khaRaa hee tau hooN! Ab kyaa tum mairee height kaa bhee mezaaq uRaa rahee ho?`
`Hehe, nobody can confuse you for Steely Dan, I`m sure`.
`If that was an insult, then I`m happy to report that it went right over my head. Who the hell is Steely Dan, anyway? Sounds like a guy with no balls!`
`Haha, that`s why they call you Lullo`.
`Still not offended. Try again`.
`How about gaanDu?`
`Tsk, tsk. Aren`t we getting a little jealous`.
`Jealous of an asshole? Chandaa, you can go fishing with that stinkin` Asim for all I care; all I really need is my saheli Scoutclitto`.
`Yeah, cum kharch, baalaa nasheeN!`
`You really ARE a prick, ain`t ya`
`As a manner of speaking, yes, but they also call me the leaning tower of Pisa`.
...

When Vagina met Viagra But back to Bushra..

It wasn`t long after the third date that Lafangi called for a meeting for all of us. Lallo got up to attend as soon as he heard the announcement and I`m sure Bushra had a wet smile on her lips too. During the meeting, Pinkie `n Twinkie were silently taking notes and it was obvious that they were locked in a silly upmanship or what Lallo calls uptitship..

Now that was not a time to judge or joke, but all the time that I spent chaaTing with Bushra, one thing was on my mind: What is that haircut, girl? Do you wanna grow it long or shave it clean? But that spiky dry grass?!! Khair, maybe its some kinda fashion or an ungodly rate of growth. So I let her be. But I was aghast when later, Lafangi told me she was thinking about getting Bushra a ring on her left lip.

`This is an issue that you and Bushra have to sort out. Speaking for Lallo, I`d say he has an environmental side that has strong issues with non-biodegradable clutter`, I explained. Frankly Lallo couldn`t have cared even if Bushra had an oil spill, but my plan was to offer my shaving services.. and any ring shing would have been unwelcomed kabaab maiN metal..

When Vagina met Viagra Pinkie had joined Twinkie in her clamor of introducing me to Bushra.. I was, of course, being a gentleman; the convention was to wait until after atleast three dates. I certainly had a few casual brushes with Bushra, but on the whole, Pinkie `n Twinkie commanded my full attention. Meanwhile, Lafangi had been indifferent about the whole uprising in my Dockers. It made me wonder if she really was aware of the accidental riots by the one-eyed monster in the lower cave.

`Dhoal baajay, Dhoal baajay DHUM, kay Dhum Dhum baajay Dhooooal`, she`d sing, spanking and giggling with Bundu Khan and hamnavaa.. Of course Bundu Khan was having the time of his life. Red with laughter, he was maTking and quivering, putting up quite a show. But.. someone else was annoyed and frankly, getting quite hot-tempered...

Lallo has a head of his own; which is not to say that he is very smart. Previously and on several occasion, he had sulked and just withdrawn himself when I asked him to wear his rubber suit. My concern was for his well-being, and ONLY when he is going in for a party. But Lallo being Lallo, wants his freedom, `I feel suffocated! I feel stupid and I can`t see a darn thing!! Aur bhaijaan, aap bohut baRay hypocrite haiN! Jub AAP nangay hoN, tau maiN burqaa pehnooN!! Yay kahaaN kaa insaaf hay?!` He whined while tearing up.

In the heat of the proceedings, I usually lose it, `THIS IS THE REASON WHY!! Your ronaa dhonaa; your tears!! Tu har jagaah rotaa pHiraa gaa, tau maaraa tau maiN hee jaoN gaa naa!!` But Lalloo Saheb cannot be bothered with the technicalities. Once, he even sabotaged an ongoing party by tearing outta of the suit. He must have thought he was SuperLallo or something. Needless to say, I had to pull him outta the fiasco, bathe and nurse him to sleep, nevermind the resistance he put UP. Gosh he could be so hard-headed sometime..

But back to Bushra..

When Vagina met Viagra http://www.ragistan.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=14&t=000102

Below is something funny for folks who wasted time on Versey`s uninspired crap..

After the 5-sensual tests, Lafangi pointed and asked, `Why do you have so much hair around your nipples? Is it a deterrent telling babies that there`s nobody home?`. I was like, `Shut up and open wide!`. She was adamant, `It seems to me that it is really men that devolved from women. Otherwise what purpose do you have for your nipples?`
The brilliant brain that I have, bitched, `Well your nipples are not of much use either until you get pregnant and start gestating `n shit!` She winked, `You wanna bet? We do have much use for them.. Why did you name my nipples, for example?`

Matter-of-factly, I stated, `Well they always say hello and are generally nice. BTW your smile stinks and you should go home NOW!`

But after Pinkie `n Twinkie left with their owner (I wished they could have stayed on), I reflected at the anonymity of my nipples: according to Aristotle, the ESSENCE of something is its POTENTIAL to be something. My nipples have no work ahead in their future. Nobody shall ever name them. Sure they may get played around with but only as short pit-stops to bigger and better things...

Except for motivating me to write this lament, my nipples, like all male nipples have no use in `qudrat kay karkhanay maiN`; Altaf Husain Hali could not have told his nipples from his ass..

Train from Pakistan, 2004: The Return `#318 by hamidm2 on October 25, 2004 8:05pm PT
pakis 87, horrible hindoos 44

............. in any case, it warms the cockles of my heart to see pakis of all hues and colors come together to defend the honor of the fatherland ........

p.s. salim mian, you are a piece of work! shabash, naujawan!`

All this score keeping, encouraging scounderals for patriotism, feeding the dogs of war, pointing at the horrors of being a hindu.. all this has to be the words of a true bigot who desperately seeks to feel good about his two-bit country.

Here is the verdict: Veeresh is an idiot and possbily a bigot but not a liar. I am a Karachiite who has never been to any other South Asian city. Maybe visiting places endears them to you, but my guess is Lahore can`t be all that (although I heard Shabaaz Shareef did some improvement). Karachi has been going to the dogs since the late `80s. It must truly suck to live there. Maybe Bangalore is the same way but it is way significant in IT and all the moolah grubbing. All in all, India is a far far better country than Pakistan. The poorest of India maybe poorer than the poorest in Pakistan but who gives a fuck really..

Mantolives` defence has been typically juvenile and worthy of a chutya. Saleem is funny but anyone who springs to action because his country/culture has been misrepresented seems like an inferior life form. No that there is anything wrong with it.

Train from Pakistan, 2004: The Return `Pakistanis and Muslims are very experienced at building great cities and preserving them for themselves or leaving them for others to enjoy.`

BeTa Saleem,

(1) If Pakistanis and Muslims are very experienced, then (2) someone among the group `non-Pakistani/non-Muslim` is not very experienced. Which one is it? The Bushmen of Kalahari?

If (3) every motherfucker (Muslim, -non, Pakistani, -non) is experienced, then what the hell does (1) mean?

And how does experience/skill carry over from generations (11 AD to 18 AD) or over geography (Cordovo to Delhi)? By reading Surah-al-architecture in the common holy book?

What about Mahmud Ghaznavi preserving Somnaath and Ahmed Shas Abdali preserving Delhi?

Beta, you are a chutya who happens to have trapped Veeresh in his own chutyapa..

Train from Pakistan, 2004: The Return `#284 by salim on October 25, 2004 12:42pm PT

Pakistanis and Muslims are very experienced at building great cities and preserving them for themselves or leaving them for others to enjoy - Cordova, Granada, Cairo, Tehran, Lucknow, Baghdad, yes even Delhi. And that skill has not been lost in the new generations - Ankara, Islamabad, Kuala Lumpur are testiments to our zeal for building cities. But the reason why I love Lahore so much, is that it is one of the few cities Pakistan received that truly embodiy the Mughal spirit. The other reason I am appreciative of Lahore is the way the Lahoris have managed to preserve the ancient buildings with such love and care - because they truly are the heirs to that great civilization we call Mughal.`

This chutyagiri ki bakvaas that somehow Pakistanis or Muslims are good in doing something better than non-Pakistanis or non-Muslims, is forgivable if expressed in a heart-wrenching rhyme longing for the days of yore. However, for a post masquareding as reason, it should be pointed out that it is demonstrably false and in need for some pathetic poetic license.

Further exaggerations outlining the bequeathing of `skills to build and preserve cities` to new generations, stems from the same mentality of since-I-started-writing-crap-in-the-first-place-might-as-well-cap-it-with-a-fart-finale.

As to.. the Mughal spirit and Mughal civilization.. the less said about it the better, although crediting Lahoris for `preserving it` is indeed a nice booby prize of opium.

Is Islam Anti-Semitic? The memories of Zion or Al-Aqsaa will never fade away. Both claims are legitimate.

What is not legitimate is the bloodshed of innocent life: people who never enlisted to fight for this conflict.

Another thing legitimate is the rule of the might. People who deny this are pathetic losers who are the real culprits in this affair. From safe distances, they have romanticised the struggle of the underdog for their own moral and religious kicks. They have told lies to these poor people about the legitimacy of their claims.. That just because these poor people are the underdogs or disenfrachised, their struggle MUST be legitimate and must be fought NO MATTER WHAT! These shameless bastards have told stories about heaven and the notion of moral superiority while fussing over the caffeine ingredients in their latte..

It should very very clear. The might is really right. This is not cynicism. The might doesn`t grow on trees. It didn`t fall into the laps of the would-be powerful. It was worked on, sacrificed for, nourished with the proper view of reality and the physical world. If you do not accept it, you are likely to make more mistakes towards your misery. If you preach legitimacy based on a deity`s favor or the-meek-shall-inherit-the-earth, then you are a criminal.

Work on getting some might, then come back and blow them away. Do not enter the fight as an underdog. So what if you pull something amazing.. Remember that the underdog who comes out as a winner will still be a dumb dog, with no backbone of a plan for the rest of the way..

http://www.ragistan.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=12&t=001337

The Comeback Kid? One efficient market scored it a solid win for John Kerry.

Going into the debate, the betting line at the offshore Olympic sports book on who will win the election was Bush -230/Kerry +200, meaning that you could bet $100 to win $200 on Kerry. Halfway through the debate, however, Olympic took the line off the board, indicating that betting action was so heavy on one side that the oddsmakers had to recast the line -- a move akin to a delayed opening in the stock market.

When the line came back 15 minutes after the debate`s conclusion, the favored side was revealed, with the spread moving to Bush -200/Kerry +170. Translation: The odds against Kerry had improved from 2-1 to 1.7-1 -- a significant change, indicating an overwhelming perception on the part of wagerers that Kerry had outperformed Bush decisively.

Read it again if it didn`t make sense..

Refugee for Life? Brother,

Please be careful in following kaka anywhere, for kaka is plenty controversial:

http://chowk.com/show_user_replies.cgi?membername=kaka&start=10&end=12&page=2&chapter=1

Refugee for Life? `{``In view of the Indians present on this forum and of the general humanity on this planet, it seems ridiculous to tout your DaiRh-eenT-ki-masjidism as the `enlightened` view of the millenium..``}`

Brother kalakand,

Syed Ali invoked Pakistanism, Islam and humanism in one single fart, not knowing exactly how to come off as `enlightened`. He seems to think that nationhood is the way to go. Now consider this: One of the things that people on this forum (WHICH INCLUDES INDIANS) agree to hate are the sizes and disproportions of defense expenditures comitted to national ideologies. If you really wanted to present an inclusive worldview KEEPING IN MIND YOUR AUDIENCE you could say, Hey how about about cross-national dialogue to end the mother of all bullshit, the two nation theory*. Or maybe go up a notch and say that we are all humans and all this Americanism, Arabism or any patriotism based on nationhood is the cause of much misery in the world. Animals are the only motherfuckers and we should practise nothing but Speciecism from now on etcetra. But no, Syed Ali seems satisfied to shoot for the lowly platform of Pakistanism to rally the scoundrels who would readily assent to the basest of bullshit..

*Now you could disagree that the two nation theory is not all that bad etc or that reversing its effects is impossible or that this is how the world currently works and we have to work within these perimeters etc BUT BUT BUT touting this daiRh-eenT-masjid of lets-all-be-Pakistanis-for-it-is-the-noblest-endeavor-ever is chutya myopia AND IS AS BAD AS THE DELUSIONS OF GRANDEAURS THAT VARIOUS ETHNICITIES SUFFER AND BOAST ABOUT.