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Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 13, 2004 10:59 pm
As Doctor Mamu said , the difference between (Indian) hindus and muslims is that hindus consider their nation to be more important than their religion , while muslims generally dont really give a f... about the country of their birth and residence , and only care about their religion.
Murder on Helm Street
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 13, 2004 10:41 am
Oh..and HP is Jesus...
Murder on Helm Street
I`m sorry - I tried my damned hardest to be nice to this woman , but she is impossible. Hello !!! Bashing up 2-3 couples for celebrating V-Day or demolishing a few shops is not the same as planting RDX in buses and trains with the intention of killing as many Indians as possible.
Bajrang Dal activists are at best small town goondas. Simi activists are in a different league. Many have been trained in Pakistan in use of improvised explosive devices , rdx etc.
SIMI is recognised as a terrorist outfit by the government of India . SIMI co-ordinates its activites with ISI and is directly funded by the Pakistan. If you sympathise in anyway with Simi , you are in league with anti-India elements. You are in league with mass murderers and dreaded terrorists.
(Its hilarious that FV quoted from `dalitistan.org ... what next , some pearls of wisdom from Khalistanaffairs.com ?)
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 12, 2004 04:20 pm
``(I certainly do not condone the acts of SIMI, but it has to be pointed out that there are other groups active too.) I`m sorry - I tried my damned hardest to be nice to this woman , but she is impossible. Hello !!! Bashing up 2-3 couples for celebrating V-Day or demolishing a few shops is not the same as planting RDX in buses and trains with the intention of killing as many Indians as possible.
Bajrang Dal activists are at best small town goondas. Simi activists are in a different league. Many have been trained in Pakistan in use of improvised explosive devices , rdx etc.
SIMI is recognised as a terrorist outfit by the government of India . SIMI co-ordinates its activites with ISI and is directly funded by the Pakistan. If you sympathise in anyway with Simi , you are in league with anti-India elements. You are in league with mass murderers and dreaded terrorists.
(Its hilarious that FV quoted from `dalitistan.org ... what next , some pearls of wisdom from Khalistanaffairs.com ?)
Murder on Helm Street
``There are some people who brand organisations like SIMI terrorist. (The ABVP gets away scot-free)``
What nonsense ! ABVP is just a student body of BJP , involved in college politics. So far ABVP has not declared a jehad against India as SIMI has , nor does it have any connection with ISI of Pakistan , and neither is it responsible for killing hundreds of innocent Indians by means of bombs/RDX planted in the public transport system.
``There has been talk of jihad boxes...I am sure you are aware that there are social organisations overseas that are essentially feeding the VHP/Bajrang Dal with donations and playing host to these terrorists. ``
More nonsense. The money sent to VHP is used to spread hinduism just the way Roman Catholic church sends over (a whole lot more) money to `harvest souls`. Not to buy RDX or AK-47s to be used to fight the security forces (Army/Police) in India. Last heard VHP /Bajrang Dal still haven`t declared a jehad against India . So far haven`t expressed any ambitions of breaking away from India or `Crushing India`. Links , if any , with the enemy across the border are not known as yet...
For the more serious readership and hopefully for those with a semblance of intelligence ... >>>
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/simi.htm
Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)
The Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), proscribed under the Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2002 (POTA), is an Islamist fundamentalist organization, which advocates the ‘liberation of India’ by converting it to an Islamic land. The SIMI, an organisation of young extremist students has declared Jehad against India, the aim of which is to establish Dar-ul-Islam (land of Islam) by either forcefully converting everyone to Islam or by violence.
Formation
The SIMI was formed at Aligarh in the State of Uttar Pradesh on April 25, 1977. Mohammad Ahmadullah Siddiqi, Professor of Journalism and Public Relations at the Western Illinois University Macomb, Illinois, was the founding President of the outfit. It originally emerged as an offshoot of the Jamaat-e-Islami Hind (JeIH).
Objectives and Ideology
Governing of human life on the basis of the Holy Quran
Propagation of Islam
Jehad for the cause of Islam
SIMI also attempts to utilize the youth in the propagation of Islam and also to mobilize support for Jehad and establish a Shariat-based Islamic rule through ``Islami Inqulab``. As the organization does not believe in a nation-state, it does not believe in the Indian Constitution or the secular order. SIMI also regards idol worship as a sin and considers it to be a holy duty to terminate idol worship.
SIMI is widely believed to be against Hinduism, western beliefs and ideals, as well as other ‘anti-Islamic cultures’. Among its various objectives, the SIMI aims to counter what it believes is the increasing moral degeneration, sexual anarchy in the Indian society as also the ‘insensitiveness’ of a ‘decadent’ west. Ideologically, SIMI maintains that the concepts of secularism, democracy and nationalism, keystones of the Indian Constitution, are antithetical to Islam. Parallel to its rejection of secularism, democracy and nationalism is its oft-repeated objective of restoration of the `khilafat`, emphasis on `ummah` (Muslim brotherhood), and the need for a Jehad to establish the supremacy of Islam.
The outfit is known to have adopted an extremist and militant posture on various issues of concern to the Muslim community.
According to the SIMI, Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is an outstanding example of a true Mujahid, who has undertaken Jehad on behalf of the `ummah`.
Leadership
Dr Shahid Badar Falah functioned as the national president and Safdar Nagori as the secretary-general till the organization was proscribed under the Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2002. The Delhi Police arrested Falah on September 28, 2001, from its office in the Zakir Nagar area of Delhi and he has subsequently been charged with sedition and inciting communal disharmony in the State of Uttar Pradesh.
Currently, the outfit is reported to be operating underground under the leadership of Nagori. Nagori has been named in a First Information Report (FIR) under Section 3 of the Unlawful Activities Act, registered at the New Friends Colony Police station in South Delhi. Nagori, declared a Proclaimed Offender in the case, has been absconding since September 27, 2001. He is alleged to have established links with the operatives of Inter Service Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan’s external intelligence agency, and other Islamist fundamentalist leaders in a bid to revive SIMI cadres under the umbrella of a different outfit.
Linkages and Areas of Operation
SIMI reportedly secures generous financial assistance from the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), Riyadh, and also maintains close links with the International Islamic Federation of Students` Organizations (IIFSO) in Kuwait.
The Chicago-based Consultative Committee of Indian Muslims is also reported to have supported SIMI morally and financially.
The SIMI also has links with the Jamaat-e-Islam (JeI) units in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal. The SIMI is also alleged to have close links with the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM) and the ISI. Certain SIMI leaders are reported to have had close links with Pakistan-based terrorist groups such as the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammed.
Groups of SIMI sympathizers reportedly exist in several places in the Gulf States. Jamayyatul Ansar, an organisation of SIMI activists comprising expatriate Indian Muslims, reportedly operates in Saudi Arabia.
Several Islamist fundamentalist organisations in India are allegedly controlled by former SIMI cadres. Prominent among them are the Kerala-based National Democratic Front and Islamic Youth Centre (IYC), and the Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam (TMMK) in Tamil Nadu.
According to official sources, in the year 1993 following the arrest of a Sikh terrorist, it was revealed that SIMI cadres, Sikh and Kashmiri terrorists, had been brought together by the ISI through the Jamaat-e-Islami in Pakistan to carry out subversive activities.
The outfit is currently regarded as having a national presence with strong bases in the States of Uttar Pradesh, Delhi, Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat, Kerala, Maharashtra (Aurangabad, Malegaon, Jalgaon and Thane), Andhra Pradesh and Assam. It reportedly has a strong base in various universities in these States. SIMI is also believed to enjoy the support of a large section of the Muslim populace in cities such as Kanpur, Rampur, Moradabad, Saharanpur, Lucknow and Azamgarh in Uttar Pradesh. Official sources are reported to have identified nine districts in Uttar Pradesh, where the SIMI is suspected of engaging in subversive activities-Lucknow, Kanpur, Aligarh, Agra, Faizabad, Bahraich, Barabanki, Lakhimpur Kheri and Azamgarh. The SIMI is also being utilised by various terrorist outfits because it has a well-knit network in Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and West Bengal.
Membership, Influence and Activities
Opposed to democracy, secularism and nationalism, SIMI has been advocating among its followers - some 400 ansars (full-time cadres) and the 20,000 ordinary members - the need to oppose ``man-made`` institutions and work for the ummah. Students up to the age of 30 years are eligible to be its members and after completing this age-limit they retire from the organization. SIMI cadres consider Osama bin Laden as a ‘true believer of Islam’ and regard him as an epitome of ‘Islamic Hero’. According to Safdar Nagori, a prominent SIMI leader, bin Laden is ``not a terrorist``` and neither is Jammu and Kashmir an ``integral part of India.`` At its congregations, messages and recorded speeches have been relayed from the Palestinian Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yasin and Qazi Hussein Ahmed, chief of the Pakistani Jamaat.
Official sources have indicated that the SIMI has established links with terrorist outfits and is also supporting extremism/militancy in Punjab, Jammu and Kashmir and elsewhere. The outfit is reported to have published objectionable posters and literature, which are intended to incite communal feelings and which question the territorial integrity of India.
Shaheen Force, the outfit’s wing for schoolchildren seeks to ``protect the children from present-day misguidance and vices`` and keeps them ``under the shade of Islamic culture``. The outfit also has a wing that aims to channelise the talent of girls for the Islamist cause.
SIMI reportedly operates many special programmes for students of Arabic colleges and Islamic universities. Students receive training and other assistance in the study of languages and Islamic sciences. According to the SIMI, renaissance of the ummah depends on Islamic scholars because the community can attain its glory only when it will be led and guided by sincere ulema (scholars).
According to the SIMI, Israelis were responsible for the 9/11 attacks in New York. According to a press release issued by its secretary-general Safdar Nagori after 9/11, ``there are strong reasons to believe that the recent attacks may be a conspiracy of the Zionist Israel, which is rapidly losing world support because of its inhuman and terrorist activities in Palestine.``
Publications
SIMI publishes several magazines in various languages, including Vivekam in Malayalam, Sedhi Madal in Tamil, Rupantar in Bengali, Iqraa in Gujarati, Tahreek in Hindi, Al Harkah in Urdu and the Shaheen Times.
Incidents
2003
November 11: A court in New Delhi acquits SIMI president Shahid Badar Falah in a case of sedition, which was filed against him in September 2001.
September 12: Five persons, including two SIMI activists, are arrested for the removal of railway sleeper clips from the tracks in Kumardubi-Barakar section in West Bengal.
July 21: POTA court in New Delhi sentences two SIMI activists to a five-year imprisonment under POTA for their membership of the proscribed organization and seven years imprisonment for sedition.
July 16: A POTA Court in Delhi convicts two SIMI activists for their active involvement with the banned outfit.
May 26: Mumbai Police arrest two suspected activists of the SIMI in the Ghatkopar bomb blast case and remand them to police custody till June 5.
May 14: Mumbai Police arrest three persons from Padgah village and foil a plan that envisaged a series of explosions in Mumbai and Kerala, which was allegedly hatched by the SIMI and Lashkar-e-Toiba. The accused were identified as Muzzamal Ansari, Mohammed Nadir Palob and Arif Hussain.
May 11: Mumbai Police detains SIMI activist Anwar Ali, a lecturer of the National Defence Academy in Khadakvasla, Maharashtra, for his suspected involvement in the March 13-Mulund train bomb explosion case.
May 3: Mumbai Police arrests six SIMI activists with links to the LeT and also seizes lethal chemicals and some arms and ammunition from their possession.
April 25: Mumbai Police arrests two suspected SIMI activists for their alleged involvement in the March 13-Mulund-bomb blast case from the Padgha village of Thane district.
April 21: Mumbai Police arrests Ghulam Akbar Khotal, an alleged SIMI activist from Ratnagiri in Maharashtra, in connection with March 13 Mulund blast.
April 10: Saquib Nachan, a SIMI activist, surrenders before the Mumbai High Court. He is subsequently arrested by the Mumbai Police and booked under POTA for his alleged involvement in the Mulund blast. Saquib was arrested from Gujarat in October 1992 under the Terrorist and Disruptive Activities (Prevention) Act (TADA) for his subversive activities and sentenced to life imprisonment, which was later commuted to 10 years by the Supreme Court. He was released from the Sabarmati jail in April 2001.
March 12: Noman Badar alias Falahi, one of the top leaders of SIMI, is brought on transit remand to Delhi from Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh. A case against him is pending in a Court in Delhi for his involvement in unlawful activities, including publishing objectionable using inflammatory language.
February 24: Police arrest two persons allegedly connected with the SIMI at Rabodi in Thane District of Maharashtra and seize incriminating documents from their possession.
January 29: Mumbai Police suspects the LeT and SIMI for the twin blasts near Vile Parle railway station in Mumbai on January 27 and January 28. United Arab Emirates (UAE) based LeT terrorist Abu Hamza is suspected to be the masterminded behind the first explosion, in which a women was killed and 25 more injured.
January 27: Uttar Pradesh Police arrests three SIMI activists from Lucknow and recover certain incriminating documents from them.
January 26: Dubai authorities deport Mohammed Altaf, an activist of the SIMI and main accused in the December 2, 2002, bomb blast at Ghatkopar.
January 9: Madhya Pradesh Police arrests Bhopal district unit former president of the SIMI Khalid Naeem. He was later released on bail.
January 3: Mumbai Police invokes POTA against four SIMI activists–– Abdul Mattin, Sayed Khwaja, Muzzamil Ahmed and Zahir Shaikh––for allegedly setting off a blast inside a bus in Ghatkopar on December 2, 2002, in which three persons were killed.
2002
December 21: A Delhi court discharges SIMI leader Mohammed Javed Iqbal in a sedition and unlawful activities case and also drops sedition charges against its president Shahid Badar and three others. While discharging Iqbal, the court granted bail to Badar and four others in the case. The court also dropped sedition charge against Badar in another case and granted him bail on a personal bond of Rs 5,000 and one surety.
October 7: Supreme Court issues notices to Union Government and eight States on a petition filed by the SIMI challenging the Union Home Ministry`s order declaring the organization as unlawful and the subsequent order of a Tribunal upholding the same. States to which notices were issued are: Kerala, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Gujarat, Rajasthan and Andhra Pradesh.
May 27: Two SIMI activists are arrested in Delhi.
May 5: Uttar Pradesh unit SIMI chief Noman Badar is arrested in Lucknow.
March 18: SIMI activist Hasib Raja is arrested in Kolkata, West Bengal, and half a kilogram of RDX is seized from him. He was allegedly planning to blow up the Howrah Bridge.
January 28: Police arrest eight SIMI activists from Vadodara in Gujarat.
2001
December 28: Police in Surat, Gujarat, arrest 123 persons for their alleged links with SIMI and also recover certain incriminating documents from their possession.
October 24: Maharashtra Police files charge sheet in a Jalgaon Court against 11 SIMI activists arrested for suspected terrorist activities.
October 8: Police arrest the Tamil Nadu State vice-president of SIMI, Abdul Qudoos, from Madurai.
October 5: Maharashtra Police arrest three SIMI activists from Ahmednagar.
October 1: Police arrest nine SIMI activists in Madhya Pradesh and one in Delhi.
September 29: After the ban on SIMI, the Police arrest another 122 of its cadres across the country.
September 28: Delhi Police seals SIMI headquarters at Zakir Nagar and arrests four senior members of the organisation, including its national president Dr Shahid Badr Falah. Shahid Badr was subsequently charged with sedition and inciting communal disharmony in Uttar Pradesh.
September 27: Union Government imposes a ban on the SIMI under section 3(1) of the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act. Following the ban, 241 SIMI activists were arrested across the country and authorities seal many of its regional offices.
September 21: Uttar Pradesh Police arrests three SIMI activists in Bahraich for alleged anti-India activities. Five more SIMI cadres were arrested in the same town a day earlier.
August 8: The Uttar Pradesh Police says SIMI activists arrested in Kanpur earlier have revealed that the ISI had asked one of its agents to supply explosive material for subversive activities in northern India.
August 6: Police in Kanpur register cases against 12 SIMI activists on charges of waging war and sedition.
May 9: Police arrest 13 SIMI activists, including zonal President Irshad Khan, in Kurla and Vikhroli in Maharashtra for allegedly possessing weapons and several incriminating documents.
April 10: Ilyas Gausn, main accused in the Pune communal violence, surrenders before a judicial magistrate in the city.
March 16: Six persons, including an Additional District Magistrate, are killed in a clash between SIMI activists and police in Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh.
March 11: Police arrest Sajid Sundke, city unit chief of SIMI, and four of his associates in Pune for their suspected involvement in the communal riots in Ganj Peth and Ghorpade Peth areas of the city.
2000
March 12: Deputy Chief Minister of Maharashtra, Chhagan Bhujbal, discloses in the State Legislative Assembly that Pakistan-based underworld don Chhota Shakeel, in league with the SIMI, is inciting communal riots in some parts of the State.
August 15: Uttar Pradesh Police arrest Mohammad Aquil, a former student of Aligarh Muslim University and an active SIMI member, in connection with a bomb blast in the Sabarmati Express train near Faizabad
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 12, 2004 03:02 am
Madam Sahiba ka kya kahna !``There are some people who brand organisations like SIMI terrorist. (The ABVP gets away scot-free)``
What nonsense ! ABVP is just a student body of BJP , involved in college politics. So far ABVP has not declared a jehad against India as SIMI has , nor does it have any connection with ISI of Pakistan , and neither is it responsible for killing hundreds of innocent Indians by means of bombs/RDX planted in the public transport system.
``There has been talk of jihad boxes...I am sure you are aware that there are social organisations overseas that are essentially feeding the VHP/Bajrang Dal with donations and playing host to these terrorists. ``
More nonsense. The money sent to VHP is used to spread hinduism just the way Roman Catholic church sends over (a whole lot more) money to `harvest souls`. Not to buy RDX or AK-47s to be used to fight the security forces (Army/Police) in India. Last heard VHP /Bajrang Dal still haven`t declared a jehad against India . So far haven`t expressed any ambitions of breaking away from India or `Crushing India`. Links , if any , with the enemy across the border are not known as yet...
For the more serious readership and hopefully for those with a semblance of intelligence ... >>>
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/simi.htm
Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)
The Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), proscribed under the Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2002 (POTA), is an Islamist fundamentalist organization, which advocates the ‘liberation of India’ by converting it to an Islamic land. The SIMI, an organisation of young extremist students has declared Jehad against India, the aim of which is to establish Dar-ul-Islam (land of Islam) by either forcefully converting everyone to Islam or by violence.
Formation
The SIMI was formed at Aligarh in the State of Uttar Pradesh on April 25, 1977. Mohammad Ahmadullah Siddiqi, Professor of Journalism and Public Relations at the Western Illinois University Macomb, Illinois, was the founding President of the outfit. It originally emerged as an offshoot of the Jamaat-e-Islami Hind (JeIH).
Objectives and Ideology
Governing of human life on the basis of the Holy Quran
Propagation of Islam
Jehad for the cause of Islam
SIMI also attempts to utilize the youth in the propagation of Islam and also to mobilize support for Jehad and establish a Shariat-based Islamic rule through ``Islami Inqulab``. As the organization does not believe in a nation-state, it does not believe in the Indian Constitution or the secular order. SIMI also regards idol worship as a sin and considers it to be a holy duty to terminate idol worship.
SIMI is widely believed to be against Hinduism, western beliefs and ideals, as well as other ‘anti-Islamic cultures’. Among its various objectives, the SIMI aims to counter what it believes is the increasing moral degeneration, sexual anarchy in the Indian society as also the ‘insensitiveness’ of a ‘decadent’ west. Ideologically, SIMI maintains that the concepts of secularism, democracy and nationalism, keystones of the Indian Constitution, are antithetical to Islam. Parallel to its rejection of secularism, democracy and nationalism is its oft-repeated objective of restoration of the `khilafat`, emphasis on `ummah` (Muslim brotherhood), and the need for a Jehad to establish the supremacy of Islam.
The outfit is known to have adopted an extremist and militant posture on various issues of concern to the Muslim community.
According to the SIMI, Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is an outstanding example of a true Mujahid, who has undertaken Jehad on behalf of the `ummah`.
Leadership
Dr Shahid Badar Falah functioned as the national president and Safdar Nagori as the secretary-general till the organization was proscribed under the Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2002. The Delhi Police arrested Falah on September 28, 2001, from its office in the Zakir Nagar area of Delhi and he has subsequently been charged with sedition and inciting communal disharmony in the State of Uttar Pradesh.
Currently, the outfit is reported to be operating underground under the leadership of Nagori. Nagori has been named in a First Information Report (FIR) under Section 3 of the Unlawful Activities Act, registered at the New Friends Colony Police station in South Delhi. Nagori, declared a Proclaimed Offender in the case, has been absconding since September 27, 2001. He is alleged to have established links with the operatives of Inter Service Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan’s external intelligence agency, and other Islamist fundamentalist leaders in a bid to revive SIMI cadres under the umbrella of a different outfit.
Linkages and Areas of Operation
SIMI reportedly secures generous financial assistance from the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), Riyadh, and also maintains close links with the International Islamic Federation of Students` Organizations (IIFSO) in Kuwait.
The Chicago-based Consultative Committee of Indian Muslims is also reported to have supported SIMI morally and financially.
The SIMI also has links with the Jamaat-e-Islam (JeI) units in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal. The SIMI is also alleged to have close links with the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM) and the ISI. Certain SIMI leaders are reported to have had close links with Pakistan-based terrorist groups such as the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammed.
Groups of SIMI sympathizers reportedly exist in several places in the Gulf States. Jamayyatul Ansar, an organisation of SIMI activists comprising expatriate Indian Muslims, reportedly operates in Saudi Arabia.
Several Islamist fundamentalist organisations in India are allegedly controlled by former SIMI cadres. Prominent among them are the Kerala-based National Democratic Front and Islamic Youth Centre (IYC), and the Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam (TMMK) in Tamil Nadu.
According to official sources, in the year 1993 following the arrest of a Sikh terrorist, it was revealed that SIMI cadres, Sikh and Kashmiri terrorists, had been brought together by the ISI through the Jamaat-e-Islami in Pakistan to carry out subversive activities.
The outfit is currently regarded as having a national presence with strong bases in the States of Uttar Pradesh, Delhi, Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat, Kerala, Maharashtra (Aurangabad, Malegaon, Jalgaon and Thane), Andhra Pradesh and Assam. It reportedly has a strong base in various universities in these States. SIMI is also believed to enjoy the support of a large section of the Muslim populace in cities such as Kanpur, Rampur, Moradabad, Saharanpur, Lucknow and Azamgarh in Uttar Pradesh. Official sources are reported to have identified nine districts in Uttar Pradesh, where the SIMI is suspected of engaging in subversive activities-Lucknow, Kanpur, Aligarh, Agra, Faizabad, Bahraich, Barabanki, Lakhimpur Kheri and Azamgarh. The SIMI is also being utilised by various terrorist outfits because it has a well-knit network in Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and West Bengal.
Membership, Influence and Activities
Opposed to democracy, secularism and nationalism, SIMI has been advocating among its followers - some 400 ansars (full-time cadres) and the 20,000 ordinary members - the need to oppose ``man-made`` institutions and work for the ummah. Students up to the age of 30 years are eligible to be its members and after completing this age-limit they retire from the organization. SIMI cadres consider Osama bin Laden as a ‘true believer of Islam’ and regard him as an epitome of ‘Islamic Hero’. According to Safdar Nagori, a prominent SIMI leader, bin Laden is ``not a terrorist``` and neither is Jammu and Kashmir an ``integral part of India.`` At its congregations, messages and recorded speeches have been relayed from the Palestinian Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yasin and Qazi Hussein Ahmed, chief of the Pakistani Jamaat.
Official sources have indicated that the SIMI has established links with terrorist outfits and is also supporting extremism/militancy in Punjab, Jammu and Kashmir and elsewhere. The outfit is reported to have published objectionable posters and literature, which are intended to incite communal feelings and which question the territorial integrity of India.
Shaheen Force, the outfit’s wing for schoolchildren seeks to ``protect the children from present-day misguidance and vices`` and keeps them ``under the shade of Islamic culture``. The outfit also has a wing that aims to channelise the talent of girls for the Islamist cause.
SIMI reportedly operates many special programmes for students of Arabic colleges and Islamic universities. Students receive training and other assistance in the study of languages and Islamic sciences. According to the SIMI, renaissance of the ummah depends on Islamic scholars because the community can attain its glory only when it will be led and guided by sincere ulema (scholars).
According to the SIMI, Israelis were responsible for the 9/11 attacks in New York. According to a press release issued by its secretary-general Safdar Nagori after 9/11, ``there are strong reasons to believe that the recent attacks may be a conspiracy of the Zionist Israel, which is rapidly losing world support because of its inhuman and terrorist activities in Palestine.``
Publications
SIMI publishes several magazines in various languages, including Vivekam in Malayalam, Sedhi Madal in Tamil, Rupantar in Bengali, Iqraa in Gujarati, Tahreek in Hindi, Al Harkah in Urdu and the Shaheen Times.
Incidents
2003
November 11: A court in New Delhi acquits SIMI president Shahid Badar Falah in a case of sedition, which was filed against him in September 2001.
September 12: Five persons, including two SIMI activists, are arrested for the removal of railway sleeper clips from the tracks in Kumardubi-Barakar section in West Bengal.
July 21: POTA court in New Delhi sentences two SIMI activists to a five-year imprisonment under POTA for their membership of the proscribed organization and seven years imprisonment for sedition.
July 16: A POTA Court in Delhi convicts two SIMI activists for their active involvement with the banned outfit.
May 26: Mumbai Police arrest two suspected activists of the SIMI in the Ghatkopar bomb blast case and remand them to police custody till June 5.
May 14: Mumbai Police arrest three persons from Padgah village and foil a plan that envisaged a series of explosions in Mumbai and Kerala, which was allegedly hatched by the SIMI and Lashkar-e-Toiba. The accused were identified as Muzzamal Ansari, Mohammed Nadir Palob and Arif Hussain.
May 11: Mumbai Police detains SIMI activist Anwar Ali, a lecturer of the National Defence Academy in Khadakvasla, Maharashtra, for his suspected involvement in the March 13-Mulund train bomb explosion case.
May 3: Mumbai Police arrests six SIMI activists with links to the LeT and also seizes lethal chemicals and some arms and ammunition from their possession.
April 25: Mumbai Police arrests two suspected SIMI activists for their alleged involvement in the March 13-Mulund-bomb blast case from the Padgha village of Thane district.
April 21: Mumbai Police arrests Ghulam Akbar Khotal, an alleged SIMI activist from Ratnagiri in Maharashtra, in connection with March 13 Mulund blast.
April 10: Saquib Nachan, a SIMI activist, surrenders before the Mumbai High Court. He is subsequently arrested by the Mumbai Police and booked under POTA for his alleged involvement in the Mulund blast. Saquib was arrested from Gujarat in October 1992 under the Terrorist and Disruptive Activities (Prevention) Act (TADA) for his subversive activities and sentenced to life imprisonment, which was later commuted to 10 years by the Supreme Court. He was released from the Sabarmati jail in April 2001.
March 12: Noman Badar alias Falahi, one of the top leaders of SIMI, is brought on transit remand to Delhi from Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh. A case against him is pending in a Court in Delhi for his involvement in unlawful activities, including publishing objectionable using inflammatory language.
February 24: Police arrest two persons allegedly connected with the SIMI at Rabodi in Thane District of Maharashtra and seize incriminating documents from their possession.
January 29: Mumbai Police suspects the LeT and SIMI for the twin blasts near Vile Parle railway station in Mumbai on January 27 and January 28. United Arab Emirates (UAE) based LeT terrorist Abu Hamza is suspected to be the masterminded behind the first explosion, in which a women was killed and 25 more injured.
January 27: Uttar Pradesh Police arrests three SIMI activists from Lucknow and recover certain incriminating documents from them.
January 26: Dubai authorities deport Mohammed Altaf, an activist of the SIMI and main accused in the December 2, 2002, bomb blast at Ghatkopar.
January 9: Madhya Pradesh Police arrests Bhopal district unit former president of the SIMI Khalid Naeem. He was later released on bail.
January 3: Mumbai Police invokes POTA against four SIMI activists–– Abdul Mattin, Sayed Khwaja, Muzzamil Ahmed and Zahir Shaikh––for allegedly setting off a blast inside a bus in Ghatkopar on December 2, 2002, in which three persons were killed.
2002
December 21: A Delhi court discharges SIMI leader Mohammed Javed Iqbal in a sedition and unlawful activities case and also drops sedition charges against its president Shahid Badar and three others. While discharging Iqbal, the court granted bail to Badar and four others in the case. The court also dropped sedition charge against Badar in another case and granted him bail on a personal bond of Rs 5,000 and one surety.
October 7: Supreme Court issues notices to Union Government and eight States on a petition filed by the SIMI challenging the Union Home Ministry`s order declaring the organization as unlawful and the subsequent order of a Tribunal upholding the same. States to which notices were issued are: Kerala, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Gujarat, Rajasthan and Andhra Pradesh.
May 27: Two SIMI activists are arrested in Delhi.
May 5: Uttar Pradesh unit SIMI chief Noman Badar is arrested in Lucknow.
March 18: SIMI activist Hasib Raja is arrested in Kolkata, West Bengal, and half a kilogram of RDX is seized from him. He was allegedly planning to blow up the Howrah Bridge.
January 28: Police arrest eight SIMI activists from Vadodara in Gujarat.
2001
December 28: Police in Surat, Gujarat, arrest 123 persons for their alleged links with SIMI and also recover certain incriminating documents from their possession.
October 24: Maharashtra Police files charge sheet in a Jalgaon Court against 11 SIMI activists arrested for suspected terrorist activities.
October 8: Police arrest the Tamil Nadu State vice-president of SIMI, Abdul Qudoos, from Madurai.
October 5: Maharashtra Police arrest three SIMI activists from Ahmednagar.
October 1: Police arrest nine SIMI activists in Madhya Pradesh and one in Delhi.
September 29: After the ban on SIMI, the Police arrest another 122 of its cadres across the country.
September 28: Delhi Police seals SIMI headquarters at Zakir Nagar and arrests four senior members of the organisation, including its national president Dr Shahid Badr Falah. Shahid Badr was subsequently charged with sedition and inciting communal disharmony in Uttar Pradesh.
September 27: Union Government imposes a ban on the SIMI under section 3(1) of the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act. Following the ban, 241 SIMI activists were arrested across the country and authorities seal many of its regional offices.
September 21: Uttar Pradesh Police arrests three SIMI activists in Bahraich for alleged anti-India activities. Five more SIMI cadres were arrested in the same town a day earlier.
August 8: The Uttar Pradesh Police says SIMI activists arrested in Kanpur earlier have revealed that the ISI had asked one of its agents to supply explosive material for subversive activities in northern India.
August 6: Police in Kanpur register cases against 12 SIMI activists on charges of waging war and sedition.
May 9: Police arrest 13 SIMI activists, including zonal President Irshad Khan, in Kurla and Vikhroli in Maharashtra for allegedly possessing weapons and several incriminating documents.
April 10: Ilyas Gausn, main accused in the Pune communal violence, surrenders before a judicial magistrate in the city.
March 16: Six persons, including an Additional District Magistrate, are killed in a clash between SIMI activists and police in Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh.
March 11: Police arrest Sajid Sundke, city unit chief of SIMI, and four of his associates in Pune for their suspected involvement in the communal riots in Ganj Peth and Ghorpade Peth areas of the city.
2000
March 12: Deputy Chief Minister of Maharashtra, Chhagan Bhujbal, discloses in the State Legislative Assembly that Pakistan-based underworld don Chhota Shakeel, in league with the SIMI, is inciting communal riots in some parts of the State.
August 15: Uttar Pradesh Police arrest Mohammad Aquil, a former student of Aligarh Muslim University and an active SIMI member, in connection with a bomb blast in the Sabarmati Express train near Faizabad
Murder on Helm Street
I seriously under-estimated your kind...
BJP to win for sure now...
HEHEHEHE.....
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 9, 2004 06:15 am
Madam Sahiba , I have found a new respect for shrill toned p-sec women journalists like you ever since Seema Mustafa of Asian Age came out with the latest expose on the Sonia-Quattroci-link and the Bofors scam...I seriously under-estimated your kind...
BJP to win for sure now...
HEHEHEHE.....
Murder on Helm Street
Now. Vote for BJP. Okay....
Dost-Mittar - I was wondering if you noticed those jehad boxes while enjoying the hospitality of the Pakistani shopkeepers during your much heralded stay in Paki-land... I`m sure you were quite the perfect guest and made your contribution to the cause as well...
ZM ,
Ref. : The Shopping Malls of Gurgaon.
India Shining. Remember ?
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 8, 2004 03:36 pm
Madam Sahiba - cool down okay...I`m sorry , I apologise , and most of the time I dont really mean what I say here. Now. Vote for BJP. Okay....
Dost-Mittar - I was wondering if you noticed those jehad boxes while enjoying the hospitality of the Pakistani shopkeepers during your much heralded stay in Paki-land... I`m sure you were quite the perfect guest and made your contribution to the cause as well...
ZM ,
Ref. : The Shopping Malls of Gurgaon.
India Shining. Remember ?
Murder on Helm Street
kya karein ustad , I get these terrible mood swings whenever I`m online ...must be all that stress.... and this `gujjubania` is quite a demanding character...very p!ssed off dude , our gujjubania...
Waise ,Looks like the mullah has been rocking a lot lately ..in Gurgaon eh ? I hear the shopping malls there are bigger and flashier than even those in B`lore... enjoy..
HMK , as usual...
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 8, 2004 11:32 am
ZM, kya karein ustad , I get these terrible mood swings whenever I`m online ...must be all that stress.... and this `gujjubania` is quite a demanding character...very p!ssed off dude , our gujjubania...
Waise ,Looks like the mullah has been rocking a lot lately ..in Gurgaon eh ? I hear the shopping malls there are bigger and flashier than even those in B`lore... enjoy..
HMK , as usual...
Murder on Helm Street
``Have you done a survey of attitudes amongst Indian Muslims? ``
There was indeed a survey carried out by India Today -where Indian Muslims chose Jinnah and Auranzeb as their role models.
You may have heard of SIMI(student islamic movement of India). It is an organisation that works actively in co-ordination with ISI to destroy India and is responsible for the recent Mumbai blasts. Although it is banned , it has at any point of time 500,000 members all over India. You have muslim intellectuals fighting to lift the ban on SIMI. Recently when a police officer tried to capture a known ISI terrorist hiding in the Aligarh Muslim University hostel , he was almost beaten to death by the AMU students.
AMU has a history of anti-India activities . All of India`s muslim institutions breed anti-India elements , who work actively to dismember India.
``There are three Muslims on Chowk who are Indian. ``
Sure , chowk is representative of the real situation in India. Moron.
Ballu Khan and Zafar are as patriotic as I am , I`m sure. But not too sure about this FV woman. I dont consider those who wish for Indian territory (Kashmir) to be given away to the enemy particularly patriotic. FV is passively anti-India.
``And thousands of Muslims serving in the (Indian) Armed Forces. ``
What about those thousands (millions , perhaps?) serving the ISI , Pakistan and having wet dreams of destroying India ?
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 8, 2004 09:03 am
Stukay gadhey ...``Have you done a survey of attitudes amongst Indian Muslims? ``
There was indeed a survey carried out by India Today -where Indian Muslims chose Jinnah and Auranzeb as their role models.
You may have heard of SIMI(student islamic movement of India). It is an organisation that works actively in co-ordination with ISI to destroy India and is responsible for the recent Mumbai blasts. Although it is banned , it has at any point of time 500,000 members all over India. You have muslim intellectuals fighting to lift the ban on SIMI. Recently when a police officer tried to capture a known ISI terrorist hiding in the Aligarh Muslim University hostel , he was almost beaten to death by the AMU students.
AMU has a history of anti-India activities . All of India`s muslim institutions breed anti-India elements , who work actively to dismember India.
``There are three Muslims on Chowk who are Indian. ``
Sure , chowk is representative of the real situation in India. Moron.
Ballu Khan and Zafar are as patriotic as I am , I`m sure. But not too sure about this FV woman. I dont consider those who wish for Indian territory (Kashmir) to be given away to the enemy particularly patriotic. FV is passively anti-India.
``And thousands of Muslims serving in the (Indian) Armed Forces. ``
What about those thousands (millions , perhaps?) serving the ISI , Pakistan and having wet dreams of destroying India ?
Murder on Helm Street
This is what an old friend had to say >
``
Congress` real vision:
1) Make Rahul Dy.PM of India.
2) Make Priyanka Congress President
3) Make Sonia the PM
4) Cut defense expenditure
5) Bill to provide reservations in the private sector
6) Bill to provide reservations to muslims and christians
7) Provide free water, electricity to farmers.
8) Raise taxes on middle class people to cover the subsidies and budget deficit.
9) Stop work on highway projects.
10) Telecom sector back to govt. control. Back to the old days of waiting lines for telehpone connections. Mobile phones banned or tarrifs raised to the extent that people can`t afford it. Same with automobiles.
11) Stop privitization. Retain control over PSU`s and put top Congress leaders and their families in charge. It`s party time for looting and milking the PSU`s.
11) Special boeing planes at govt. expense, for the movement of Priyanka and Rahul using security as an excuse.
12) Import muslims from Bangladesh to raise the vote bank.
13) Hindu festivals to be banned because they are considered fanatic.
14.Missionaries will over take the country.
The horror story never ends. ``
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 8, 2004 09:02 am
All said and done about BJP , what about the alternative , Congress ?This is what an old friend had to say >
``
Congress` real vision:
1) Make Rahul Dy.PM of India.
2) Make Priyanka Congress President
3) Make Sonia the PM
4) Cut defense expenditure
5) Bill to provide reservations in the private sector
6) Bill to provide reservations to muslims and christians
7) Provide free water, electricity to farmers.
8) Raise taxes on middle class people to cover the subsidies and budget deficit.
9) Stop work on highway projects.
10) Telecom sector back to govt. control. Back to the old days of waiting lines for telehpone connections. Mobile phones banned or tarrifs raised to the extent that people can`t afford it. Same with automobiles.
11) Stop privitization. Retain control over PSU`s and put top Congress leaders and their families in charge. It`s party time for looting and milking the PSU`s.
11) Special boeing planes at govt. expense, for the movement of Priyanka and Rahul using security as an excuse.
12) Import muslims from Bangladesh to raise the vote bank.
13) Hindu festivals to be banned because they are considered fanatic.
14.Missionaries will over take the country.
The horror story never ends. ``
Murder on Helm Street
No...I`m not anti-muslim , just pro-India. Hate those who hate India.
I am convinced that majority of muslims born and living in India hate India and love Pakistan. That is mainly because of the `Ummah` factor. This is not some recent post-Godhra or post-Babri development , this has been the case ever since Indian muslims voted for a partition of India under Jinnah. Someo blame BJP/RSS for this - but fact remains Indian muslims have been hostile to India even when BJP/RSS were total non-entities. BJP/RSS have come into prominence only over the last decade.
There are a lot of hindus too who hate India and work actively to destroy the country - the leftists , socialists , yes-to-aid-no-to-investment-type-NGOs, p-secs etc. I hate the RSS/VHP folks too , because if given free rein ,they will destroy India. Their economic idealogy is no different from that of leftists or socialists. They are idiots of the first order and want to take India back to medieval times - not much different in intellect from your friendly neighbourhood mullah.
Religion is a personal matter. Groupism based on religious inclination must be actively discouraged. Appeasement of people belonging to any religion - majority or minority should not be allowed.
Lastly , MaheshG2 , 150 million does not sound like a minority to me. True , it is said that hindus number 800 million. But hindus are a disjointed bunch divided by caste/region/ethnicity/language. So the idea of majority/minority makes no sense. Brahmins IMHO are a smaller minority than muslims - just 35 million .
The only unifying factor here is INDIA. Today , all communities are happily integrated into India apart from a major section of the Indian muslim fraternity. `India` is too lowly and inferior for them. They would rather prefer to be a part of the global ummah...
I mean , do you seriously expect them to feel a part of this kafeer dominated country ?
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 7, 2004 05:13 pm
Romair : ``In fact, he is so convinced of this, and so anti-Muslim``No...I`m not anti-muslim , just pro-India. Hate those who hate India.
I am convinced that majority of muslims born and living in India hate India and love Pakistan. That is mainly because of the `Ummah` factor. This is not some recent post-Godhra or post-Babri development , this has been the case ever since Indian muslims voted for a partition of India under Jinnah. Someo blame BJP/RSS for this - but fact remains Indian muslims have been hostile to India even when BJP/RSS were total non-entities. BJP/RSS have come into prominence only over the last decade.
There are a lot of hindus too who hate India and work actively to destroy the country - the leftists , socialists , yes-to-aid-no-to-investment-type-NGOs, p-secs etc. I hate the RSS/VHP folks too , because if given free rein ,they will destroy India. Their economic idealogy is no different from that of leftists or socialists. They are idiots of the first order and want to take India back to medieval times - not much different in intellect from your friendly neighbourhood mullah.
Religion is a personal matter. Groupism based on religious inclination must be actively discouraged. Appeasement of people belonging to any religion - majority or minority should not be allowed.
Lastly , MaheshG2 , 150 million does not sound like a minority to me. True , it is said that hindus number 800 million. But hindus are a disjointed bunch divided by caste/region/ethnicity/language. So the idea of majority/minority makes no sense. Brahmins IMHO are a smaller minority than muslims - just 35 million .
The only unifying factor here is INDIA. Today , all communities are happily integrated into India apart from a major section of the Indian muslim fraternity. `India` is too lowly and inferior for them. They would rather prefer to be a part of the global ummah...
I mean , do you seriously expect them to feel a part of this kafeer dominated country ?
Murder on Helm Street
This is no exaggeration. 90% of Indian muslims are either actively or passively hostile to India. I`m sure about it. I hate admitting this , especially to a Paki...but sometimes its important to open one`s eyes to reality and confront the truth.
Most Indian muslims are no different from the mob of 2000 who emerged from the Godhra mosque , and burnt alive 55 hindus , 30 of them being women and children ( who are contemptuously dismissed as `hindu fanatics` ) , with cries of `kafeeron ko jalao` , `allahu akbar` , `pakistan zindabad`
But there are indeed exceptions. Perhaps 5-10% of Indian muslims are pro-India.
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 7, 2004 12:35 pm
``I have heard this quite a bit. Is this really true? Or is this an exageration?``This is no exaggeration. 90% of Indian muslims are either actively or passively hostile to India. I`m sure about it. I hate admitting this , especially to a Paki...but sometimes its important to open one`s eyes to reality and confront the truth.
Most Indian muslims are no different from the mob of 2000 who emerged from the Godhra mosque , and burnt alive 55 hindus , 30 of them being women and children ( who are contemptuously dismissed as `hindu fanatics` ) , with cries of `kafeeron ko jalao` , `allahu akbar` , `pakistan zindabad`
But there are indeed exceptions. Perhaps 5-10% of Indian muslims are pro-India.
Murder on Helm Street
{ZafarA: ``[``I agree that Indian Muslims are under-represented in Govt institutions (not just the IAS but, crucially, in the police force) and that this is something that India has to address.``]
[That is something the muslim community has to address.]
Muslim community is part of India. Get it?
[India cannot do anything about it.]
Contradictory, no?`` }
Well, do you mean to say that India should now begin to dole out jobs on basis of the religious inclination of the job applicant ? Reservation for muslims , eh ? (If that happens, I`ll be the first to convert , trust me - but no circumcision okay (ughh!!))
My point was ZM (yes- its me you-know-who(same-old-same-old)) , if IMs claim to be a part
of India , and expect India to be secular (which it is, incidently) , they should act as Indians - not as muslims. Make their demands as Indians - not as muslims.
You never hear of hindus or sikhs or jains demanding what India has done for hindus/sikhs/jains....you never have gujjus asking what has India done for gujjus....its always muslims asking `what has India done for the muslim community`....as if `India` is some alien quantity.
It is only the muslim community (save a few honorable exceptions like you and your family) that celebrates everytime their country (supposedly India) loses to the enemy (Pakistan) in cricket. (I can post pictures of AMU students carrying Pakistan flags if you want me to - from rediff.com)
Hell, most Indian muslims even get depressed when India wins- there were reports of a few kids who dared to celebrate India`s victory and unpardonably waved the Indian triclor being stoned by some rather sore IMs...
Heck we have discussed this million times before - no point in repeating the same points again. Enjoy your stay.
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 7, 2004 09:55 am
{ZafarA: ``[``I agree that Indian Muslims are under-represented in Govt institutions (not just the IAS but, crucially, in the police force) and that this is something that India has to address.``]
[That is something the muslim community has to address.]
Muslim community is part of India. Get it?
[India cannot do anything about it.]
Contradictory, no?`` }
Well, do you mean to say that India should now begin to dole out jobs on basis of the religious inclination of the job applicant ? Reservation for muslims , eh ? (If that happens, I`ll be the first to convert , trust me - but no circumcision okay (ughh!!))
My point was ZM (yes- its me you-know-who(same-old-same-old)) , if IMs claim to be a part
of India , and expect India to be secular (which it is, incidently) , they should act as Indians - not as muslims. Make their demands as Indians - not as muslims.
You never hear of hindus or sikhs or jains demanding what India has done for hindus/sikhs/jains....you never have gujjus asking what has India done for gujjus....its always muslims asking `what has India done for the muslim community`....as if `India` is some alien quantity.
It is only the muslim community (save a few honorable exceptions like you and your family) that celebrates everytime their country (supposedly India) loses to the enemy (Pakistan) in cricket. (I can post pictures of AMU students carrying Pakistan flags if you want me to - from rediff.com)
Hell, most Indian muslims even get depressed when India wins- there were reports of a few kids who dared to celebrate India`s victory and unpardonably waved the Indian triclor being stoned by some rather sore IMs...
Heck we have discussed this million times before - no point in repeating the same points again. Enjoy your stay.
Murder on Helm Street
[India has 11-12 times the economy of Pakistan (7 times the population) , and Indian economy grows at a 3-4% rate faster than Pakistan`s economy. India also has the higher PPP per capita - $2980 to Pakistan`s $1940. Also , BPL (below poverty line) population in India is today 23% of the population , while in Pakistan it is 36% of its population. Literacy in India almost 70% , in Pakistan it is 51%.]
Somehow , everytime I mentioned the fact that Indian economy grows at 8-10% , HP said it was no big deal ,as we are basically starting from zero....that is not the case anymore as India has the world`s 4th biggest economy in terms of ppp gdp - $3trillion. $3trillion is not exactly zero. Still , the argument can be made that India`s population being 1 billion , it was no big deal. But the point is , India`s ppp gdp per capita is 1000$ higher than that of Pakistan and increasing all the time.
Just 14 years ago - Pakistan used to be ahead of India in all economic and social parameters. Pakistan had only 20% of its population living in BPL ,while India had 41% - in 1990.
Today , India outperforms Pakistan by far in all socio-economic parameters. BPL population of India has come down to 23% , while Pakistan`s BPL has increased to the present 36%.
So Indians may or may not have access to proper toilets , may or may not have built just 200 kms of highways - they are today way ahead of Pakistan and the gulf between India and Pakistan increases all the time.
Pretty soon , Pakistan will find it impossible to compete militarily with a much stronger Indian economy. Indeed , competing with India militarily and the Kashmir jehad are the reasons poverty in Pakistan has increased from 20% in 1990 to the present 36%.
But then as Bhutto or somebody said , Pakistanis would prefer to eat ghaas (grass) rather than bow down to India.
The countdown begins....
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 7, 2004 07:15 am
India may or may note `dirt poor` and all that , majority of its people may or may not live in sub-human conditions going by what HP had to say in his many posts here , but the fact remains that India ranks 20 slots higher than Pakistan in the human development index.[India has 11-12 times the economy of Pakistan (7 times the population) , and Indian economy grows at a 3-4% rate faster than Pakistan`s economy. India also has the higher PPP per capita - $2980 to Pakistan`s $1940. Also , BPL (below poverty line) population in India is today 23% of the population , while in Pakistan it is 36% of its population. Literacy in India almost 70% , in Pakistan it is 51%.]
Somehow , everytime I mentioned the fact that Indian economy grows at 8-10% , HP said it was no big deal ,as we are basically starting from zero....that is not the case anymore as India has the world`s 4th biggest economy in terms of ppp gdp - $3trillion. $3trillion is not exactly zero. Still , the argument can be made that India`s population being 1 billion , it was no big deal. But the point is , India`s ppp gdp per capita is 1000$ higher than that of Pakistan and increasing all the time.
Just 14 years ago - Pakistan used to be ahead of India in all economic and social parameters. Pakistan had only 20% of its population living in BPL ,while India had 41% - in 1990.
Today , India outperforms Pakistan by far in all socio-economic parameters. BPL population of India has come down to 23% , while Pakistan`s BPL has increased to the present 36%.
So Indians may or may not have access to proper toilets , may or may not have built just 200 kms of highways - they are today way ahead of Pakistan and the gulf between India and Pakistan increases all the time.
Pretty soon , Pakistan will find it impossible to compete militarily with a much stronger Indian economy. Indeed , competing with India militarily and the Kashmir jehad are the reasons poverty in Pakistan has increased from 20% in 1990 to the present 36%.
But then as Bhutto or somebody said , Pakistanis would prefer to eat ghaas (grass) rather than bow down to India.
The countdown begins....
Open Letter To Dina Wadia
You guys remind me of those gandhian/nehruvian freaks still mumbling about gandhi/nehru this and that..
I mean...WHO CARES ??!!!
Helllo...its 2004....not 1940....
Wake up or be left out....
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 7, 2004 07:15 am
Hmm...jinnah who ? You guys remind me of those gandhian/nehruvian freaks still mumbling about gandhi/nehru this and that..
I mean...WHO CARES ??!!!
Helllo...its 2004....not 1940....
Wake up or be left out....
Murder on Helm Street
http://www.indiacause.com/OL_030511.htm
An Open Letter to the Editor of India Abroad
By T R Rao, USA
May 11, 2003
To: India Abroad Editor
Dear Editor, Sir
I am a life-subscriber to India Abroad for over a decade, and I have painfully come to the decision of canceling my subscription and ask you to stop mailing the issues due to me from now on. I took this step to boycott your paper, as I believe very strongly you are part of the machine for psuedo-secular (P-sec) anti-Hindu propaganda. Francois Gautier, an eminent columnist of Le Figaro wrote a year ago: ``Oh! Poor India! Thy journalists are thy worst enemies`` (Hindu, March 2002). I came to the same conclusion as Gautier quite a few times as I keep reading your paper. Let me illustrate a couple of cases to prove my point.
In the year 2000, there was a burst of Christian church bombings in South India. Your Eminency, India abroad, headlined on front pages for weeks and attacked ferociously the Hindutva groups assumed to be the architects of these dastardly acts. You had no proof and gave none whatsoever. You just assumed blindly just as all other P-sec media did. It must be Hindutva. Eventually when the proof came out and that a Muslim outfit, named Deen Daar Anjumaan (DDA), trained in Pakistan, was arrested and found guilty of these church bombings, the whole rogue media fell silent. We haven’t heard anything about that DDA outfit or any further details. ‘Mum’ is the word for it. Your silence is indeed ``deafening`` as one Rediff writer put it. A very respected professor from Syracuse University (author of many books - his name I choose to withhold here) presented a paper (in a conference held at Stevens Institute of Technology, Sept. 2002) attacking the Hindutva groups for the many church bombings. When I asked him for the source of his points of attack, he said without much hesitation ``India Abroad columns``. That professor, when I gave the details of DDA and its bloody mischief to him, he expressed his profound shock and regretted his mistake. But, India Abroad! You are no professor and you have no such compunctions. When I wrote a letter asking you to retract all of the lies and innuendo against Hindutva groups, you chose to send that letter to your wastebasket. Do you need a more clear-cut case of your unabashed anti-Hindu propaganda of lies and innuendo?
Last year when Sir V. S. Naipaul of Indian origin received Nobel Prize for literature, we expected some self-congratulations, and praise for that great accomplishment. Alas! Your weekly immediately burst out with two one-page P-sec columns. As they expressed his masterly command of English prose writing, they are more critical of Sir Naipaul’s views, particularly his writings about Muslim countries. One has gone even to the extent of attributing this Nobel to post 9-11 anti-Muslim tirade. Your P-sec writers have very imaginary traits. They also have profusely ``bleeding hearts`` when it comes to non-Hindus that are killed. It is okay, but why not a few crocodile tears when fifty-six or so Hindu men, women and children were burnt alive in a train. We hear about Gujarat carnage daily without a break. However, Godhra carnage, which started it all, is conveniently forgotten and does not get even an occasional mention.
As English language media`s misinformation campaign, you play a central role in USA. Professor Romesh Diwan in his column ``India Ascendant`` (http://sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=298065) suggests a more appropriate name for your paper ‘Pakistan Abroad’. He lists a large table of how P-sec media fabricate/slant reports and black out to further their anti-Hindu agenda. I pick a few of the incidents from that table for you here.
Place: Jhabua, Madhya Pradesh;
Incident: rape of four nuns;
Media Report: Blowed up. Blamed: RSS, and Central BJP government and workers; no mention of the state govt or tensions due to conversion activity
Facts: Rape by converted Christians. Madhya Pradesh Government is run by Congress
Media Response: Story never retracted; No apology to the Hindu parties so maligned. No explanation or self-examination for such false reporting.
Place: Manoharpar, Orissa.
Incident: Australian priest and his two sons burnt alive
Media Report: Blamed Bajrang Dal, and Central BJP government;
Facts: (i). An eyewitness detailed report in Rastradeep, a Oriya Weekly from Cuttack, Orissa, Jan 26, 1999, shows conclusively that the burning is the result of tension in the community caused by forced conversions and manipulation by Dara Singh, a Congress worker,
(ii). Orissa State government is run by Congress and Dara Singh helped the election of its ministers. Bajrang Dal has no presence there.
(iii) A Central Bureau of Investigation officer, Joginder Nayak, told a court of the District and Sessions Judge M. N. Patnaik on Monday that none of the 18 persons charge sheeted in the 1999 Graham Staines murder case belonged to the Bajrang Dal. [``Staines murder accused not Bajrang Dal activists: CBI`` January 27, 2003 Rediff.com/news [Emphasis added]
Media Response: Story never retracted. No apology to the parties maligned. No explanation or self-examination for false reporting.
Arundhati Roy, a darling of India Abroad and the colonial West liberals, wrote about Muslim young women in Ahmedabad by falsely giving a personal witness-like account of the nature of their rape and burning when in fact they were not in Ahmedabad but safe and sound in the US and this information had already appeared in the print media. The details are:
Fact: T. A. Jaffri, son of Mr. Iqbal Eshan Jaffri, killed in the riots, said, ``Among my brothers and sisters I am the only one living in India. I am the eldest in the family. My sisters and brothers live in the U.S. No body knew my father`s house was the target.
Fabrication: Arundhati Roy described `the stripping and burning of two daughters` safely living in the US: ``A mob surrounded the house of ex-Congress MP, Iqbal Eshan Jaffri. His phone calls to the Director-General of Police, the Police Commissioner, the Chief Secretary and the additional Chief Secretary (home) were ignored. The mobile police vans around his house did not intervene. The mob broke into the house. They stripped his daughters and burnt them alive. Then they beheaded Jaffri and dismembered him.
Arundhati Roy fabricates facts as neatly as she covers her true Christian name. Editor, sir, let me come to my final point. I have determined to send this letter to as many friends and like-minded Indians, organizations here and abroad to tell them of my boycott and ask them to join me in this boycott if they agree with me. I believe most NRIs are not going to lie low forever and take the non-sense your P-sec media is dishing out without fear of a counter attack. Your propaganda of lies will be exposed and I am ready to fight for Truth and India.
Sincerely Yours,
Dr. T. R. N. Rao, Ph. D.
Loflin Chair Professor of Computer Science
University of Louisiana at Lafayette, Lafayette, LA 70504
Posted by
gujjubania
Apr 6, 2004 05:40 am
An Indian fights back >>http://www.indiacause.com/OL_030511.htm
An Open Letter to the Editor of India Abroad
By T R Rao, USA
May 11, 2003
To: India Abroad Editor
Dear Editor, Sir
I am a life-subscriber to India Abroad for over a decade, and I have painfully come to the decision of canceling my subscription and ask you to stop mailing the issues due to me from now on. I took this step to boycott your paper, as I believe very strongly you are part of the machine for psuedo-secular (P-sec) anti-Hindu propaganda. Francois Gautier, an eminent columnist of Le Figaro wrote a year ago: ``Oh! Poor India! Thy journalists are thy worst enemies`` (Hindu, March 2002). I came to the same conclusion as Gautier quite a few times as I keep reading your paper. Let me illustrate a couple of cases to prove my point.
In the year 2000, there was a burst of Christian church bombings in South India. Your Eminency, India abroad, headlined on front pages for weeks and attacked ferociously the Hindutva groups assumed to be the architects of these dastardly acts. You had no proof and gave none whatsoever. You just assumed blindly just as all other P-sec media did. It must be Hindutva. Eventually when the proof came out and that a Muslim outfit, named Deen Daar Anjumaan (DDA), trained in Pakistan, was arrested and found guilty of these church bombings, the whole rogue media fell silent. We haven’t heard anything about that DDA outfit or any further details. ‘Mum’ is the word for it. Your silence is indeed ``deafening`` as one Rediff writer put it. A very respected professor from Syracuse University (author of many books - his name I choose to withhold here) presented a paper (in a conference held at Stevens Institute of Technology, Sept. 2002) attacking the Hindutva groups for the many church bombings. When I asked him for the source of his points of attack, he said without much hesitation ``India Abroad columns``. That professor, when I gave the details of DDA and its bloody mischief to him, he expressed his profound shock and regretted his mistake. But, India Abroad! You are no professor and you have no such compunctions. When I wrote a letter asking you to retract all of the lies and innuendo against Hindutva groups, you chose to send that letter to your wastebasket. Do you need a more clear-cut case of your unabashed anti-Hindu propaganda of lies and innuendo?
Last year when Sir V. S. Naipaul of Indian origin received Nobel Prize for literature, we expected some self-congratulations, and praise for that great accomplishment. Alas! Your weekly immediately burst out with two one-page P-sec columns. As they expressed his masterly command of English prose writing, they are more critical of Sir Naipaul’s views, particularly his writings about Muslim countries. One has gone even to the extent of attributing this Nobel to post 9-11 anti-Muslim tirade. Your P-sec writers have very imaginary traits. They also have profusely ``bleeding hearts`` when it comes to non-Hindus that are killed. It is okay, but why not a few crocodile tears when fifty-six or so Hindu men, women and children were burnt alive in a train. We hear about Gujarat carnage daily without a break. However, Godhra carnage, which started it all, is conveniently forgotten and does not get even an occasional mention.
As English language media`s misinformation campaign, you play a central role in USA. Professor Romesh Diwan in his column ``India Ascendant`` (http://sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=298065) suggests a more appropriate name for your paper ‘Pakistan Abroad’. He lists a large table of how P-sec media fabricate/slant reports and black out to further their anti-Hindu agenda. I pick a few of the incidents from that table for you here.
Place: Jhabua, Madhya Pradesh;
Incident: rape of four nuns;
Media Report: Blowed up. Blamed: RSS, and Central BJP government and workers; no mention of the state govt or tensions due to conversion activity
Facts: Rape by converted Christians. Madhya Pradesh Government is run by Congress
Media Response: Story never retracted; No apology to the Hindu parties so maligned. No explanation or self-examination for such false reporting.
Place: Manoharpar, Orissa.
Incident: Australian priest and his two sons burnt alive
Media Report: Blamed Bajrang Dal, and Central BJP government;
Facts: (i). An eyewitness detailed report in Rastradeep, a Oriya Weekly from Cuttack, Orissa, Jan 26, 1999, shows conclusively that the burning is the result of tension in the community caused by forced conversions and manipulation by Dara Singh, a Congress worker,
(ii). Orissa State government is run by Congress and Dara Singh helped the election of its ministers. Bajrang Dal has no presence there.
(iii) A Central Bureau of Investigation officer, Joginder Nayak, told a court of the District and Sessions Judge M. N. Patnaik on Monday that none of the 18 persons charge sheeted in the 1999 Graham Staines murder case belonged to the Bajrang Dal. [``Staines murder accused not Bajrang Dal activists: CBI`` January 27, 2003 Rediff.com/news [Emphasis added]
Media Response: Story never retracted. No apology to the parties maligned. No explanation or self-examination for false reporting.
Arundhati Roy, a darling of India Abroad and the colonial West liberals, wrote about Muslim young women in Ahmedabad by falsely giving a personal witness-like account of the nature of their rape and burning when in fact they were not in Ahmedabad but safe and sound in the US and this information had already appeared in the print media. The details are:
Fact: T. A. Jaffri, son of Mr. Iqbal Eshan Jaffri, killed in the riots, said, ``Among my brothers and sisters I am the only one living in India. I am the eldest in the family. My sisters and brothers live in the U.S. No body knew my father`s house was the target.
Fabrication: Arundhati Roy described `the stripping and burning of two daughters` safely living in the US: ``A mob surrounded the house of ex-Congress MP, Iqbal Eshan Jaffri. His phone calls to the Director-General of Police, the Police Commissioner, the Chief Secretary and the additional Chief Secretary (home) were ignored. The mobile police vans around his house did not intervene. The mob broke into the house. They stripped his daughters and burnt them alive. Then they beheaded Jaffri and dismembered him.
Arundhati Roy fabricates facts as neatly as she covers her true Christian name. Editor, sir, let me come to my final point. I have determined to send this letter to as many friends and like-minded Indians, organizations here and abroad to tell them of my boycott and ask them to join me in this boycott if they agree with me. I believe most NRIs are not going to lie low forever and take the non-sense your P-sec media is dishing out without fear of a counter attack. Your propaganda of lies will be exposed and I am ready to fight for Truth and India.
Sincerely Yours,
Dr. T. R. N. Rao, Ph. D.
Loflin Chair Professor of Computer Science
University of Louisiana at Lafayette, Lafayette, LA 70504
Murder on Helm Street
Well said. Right on target as usual by Ballu Khan.
Harimau : ``But the utterly fraudulent and cynical manipulation of the system by the likes of Soysauce who deprive the truly downtrodden people has convinced me that reservations for the SC/ST/OBC are the greatest evil afflicting Indian society``
Exactly. And now they want reservations in the private sector. That will be the end of India.
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gujjubania
Apr 6, 2004 05:40 am
``every bread and butter issue is NOT dealt at its own merits but is turned into a theological debate about US versus Them. These persons deflect OUR attention from the real bread and butter issues facing the Indian muslims. we have to IGNORE these rascals and not make them divert ourselves from the task of bargaining more financial and secular wealth for the Indian muslims``Well said. Right on target as usual by Ballu Khan.
Harimau : ``But the utterly fraudulent and cynical manipulation of the system by the likes of Soysauce who deprive the truly downtrodden people has convinced me that reservations for the SC/ST/OBC are the greatest evil afflicting Indian society``
Exactly. And now they want reservations in the private sector. That will be the end of India.
- gujjubania
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