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Khamosh Pani Crosses the Border Noisily #209 by omar_r_quraishi on December 23, 2004 11:55pm PT
shri friend jee -- i wonder who is going off on a tangent here

interesting how discussions like this bring the same interactors out all guns blazing: arjun, sadna, mohar, jang, veeresh, ballu khan, nikki et al

.................My gun`s blazin` alright.I`m gonna frolic in South Beach kismis night.As for your sorry lil` pecker,i`m sure you (and every pak)must be on sale to the highest bidder, be he american, chinese or Arab.After all, that`s how your country survives doesn`t it??.Put food on the table.Bend over to the `john` with the biggest wad.Like a nation, so its` peoples.Merry Christmas!!.

Branding Nations #25 by labyrinth1 on December 24, 2004 1:17pm PT

............Asking your country to honor its` original constitution, empowering every citizen to vote in or out the govt. of his/her choice, improving its` image etc. can come from only those who wish your country well.All that has happened has only weakened your country rather than strengthening it.Ex PM Narasimha Rao was honored by the world media on his death as the architect of Indias` economic reforms.He was a simple man who came to lead one of the largest country`s on this planet.He was also voted out by the public, as was Vajpayee and that is also part of the mystique that is a hallmark of democracy.The current PM Singh is also quietly going about his job with dignity.China ,Russia and ASEAN have officially endorsed India`s permanent seat quest at the UN.The indian economy is now respected the world over and is the 4th largest in terms of GDP.The US treats India with respect and dare not dictate any terms to it.The world`s largest nuclear power plant is being constructed in Southern India , but do you hear a peep from anyone?.All this has come about not because indians are great or better than anyone else.It is because , despite tempatations, the indian political establishment has toed the line, respected the people and followed the constitution with propriety.

Sure,India has a long way to go before every citizen there can aspire to a minimum quality of life, but they have started somewhere and the excess will trickle , top down or bottoms up.As far as kashmir, India will not budge an inch and it can afford to do so, both politically and economically.The only people who will really suffer are the folks in J and K.They will not be able to fully participate in the economic growth like the other states.You guys have to give up your india fixation.That`s the first step.

Daewooooosh! We all know why Daewoo went bankrupt , don`t we??.All that road laying and bus depot building in pakistan is why.Now ofcourse, Daewoo is history and it is GM and TATA that own the car and truck division.Which is a lesson no corporate entity will ever repeat, i.e., invest any moneys in nations such as pakistan.Surefire way to go belly up.GM is making quite a bundle in India , having brought up the Daewoo car division there too and the Chevrolet Optra , offered to indian consumers , is a state of the art, current midsize car, which is sold in the US as a Suzuki Verona.Like i said earlier,if a company wants to go bankrupt, they should invest in pakistan.Daewooosh , indeed!!.

Hey JC, won’t you smile for me? Nikki beti,

humay koi itraaz nahin agar aap yaan loee aur Muhammed kee khoj karain. yaan uskee tasveer banaain.

mazhab kee har baat shakhs ko jazbati kar deti hai

....................Yes Maasi....Do ye know who Mohammed`s mother is?.`Cause i don`t catch the drift of the `pidgin` ye typed my way.Or, Mohammed`s father?.Or, was his birth divine as in the birth of the Christ?.Did he really have a mother and a father?.Did he just show up in Medina and get the faithful all riled up?.I wanna know.Jesus, all this is so complicated!.

Branding Nations Pakistan should give up its` India fixation, as the world knows the two can never attain parity, work on polishing its` image as an inclusive rather than as an exclusively muslim nation, open ties with its` central asian neighbors and give every citizen the right to vote and honor the original constitution as set forth by jinnah et al.However, ludicrous this may come across, there is no other way.For eg. come Jan 01, 2005 no more quotas on textiles.That means even bush can`t force a company to buy textiles from pakistan.Not that he will do such a thing.Just an example.Already, China and India are expected to take up 65% of the world`s textile sales and the rest will be in south-east asia.Textile manufacturers in bangladesh are already closing their plants as buyers have indicated that they prefer to deal with big countries like India and China who have it all.....raw materials, designers. plants and low wage workers.Pakistan will also face the same situation.The only saviour for the pakistan textile industry is , surprise, India!!!.Unless india buys textiles from pakistan the textile industry is going to go for a tailspin starting next year.And, this i learn from a textile merchant in karachi, who even went as far as asking his govt. to approach india to join efforts to manage the cotton trade.Together, india and pakistan , acc. to him , produce 45% of the world`s cotton supply.Yet ,individually,pakistan`s contribution is only 12%.Go figure why the textile establishment in pakistan is jittery. to say the least.These i learnt from watching CNBC/World and CNN.What do they have against pakistan?.Slowly, pakistan is gonna rue its` policy vis-a-vis india, and surely, the results are being posted for all to see.
So, pakistan will in the long run gain nothing by kissing up to whoever`s in power in the US or Arab potentates to survive, and doing nothing to improve its` image and reworking its` social demogarphy.

Engaging India India is on the right track, diplomatically as well.The only language the world understands is the language of strength, not brute strength, but managed.And , India is doing a great job of displaying managed strength.India has to thank the brilliant men and women of their defense establishment who display a high degree of professionalism and discipline.India is the only nation from Asia who is invited to the US Fleet Week every year and i had an opportunity to visit an Indian battleship in newyork a few years ago.This ship was built in India(Mazagaon Docks) and had state of the art weaponry on board and one had to stand in line to get in.The sailors were pleasant, spoke excellent english and non-indians who visited(more than desis) came away quite impressed.Men like Dr.Abdul Kalam and other scientists have built India`s missile and space capabilities beyond the expectations of even India`s best well-wishers.India`s Sukhoi jet fighters are now built in India and are adapted to indian conditions.And i saw a Discovery channnel program depicting the Sukhoi as more advanced than the F-22.India now building its` own jet fighter aircraft, the first few being demonstrated to Putin during his visit to Bangalore.All this in spite of buffoons like Natwar Singh et al.I feel sorry for PM Manmohan Singh, having to deal with a foreign minister who hasn`t left the cold war and Gandhi era.

Hey JC, won’t you smile for me? Yeah, mockery is good.Maybe this woman`s next essay will be ``WHO IS MOHAMMED``S MOTHER??.``....Will this woman be the one who will crack the `Medina` code??..So much for free speech.

Khamosh Pani Crosses the Border Noisily #140 by veeresh on December 21, 2004 0:05am PT

nikki7777/138 - can you please stop generalising so much? You may have some points in your arguments, but do you have to foam and lather them so much? Do your fore-fathers remember when their caravan stopped wherever it did?


.................I speaketh the truth.Thank God India has Abdul Kalam and the VP guy presiding.Both are aware of this pak-punjab conspiracy to penetrate India and will not allow your treacherous kind to get their way.Isn`t the RAW spy who escaped to the US a punjabi of your kind??.Surprise me. My forefathers have lived in the land of their forefathers with dignity and respect for all.That`s why they continue to do so.Unlike,your kind.Treacherous and ungrateful.PAK-PUNJABI HINDI AKA UNGRATEFUL DOG-ALL INDIANS BEWARE-WILL BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS IT.

Must Reads on the Middle East To the author......dude....i saw you on ``War and peace`` a desi documentary that aired on PBS.Cool.You were one of the guys that brought out the whole `tehelka` episode in India.Cool.KEEP ON!!.

Khamosh Pani Crosses the Border Noisily #121 by stuka on December 19, 2004 12:06pm PT


............Nobody owes anybody anything.You/your ancestors were a part of the punjabi diaspora that includes sikhs, hindus, muslims, christians and others.This demography existed before partition.After partition , if your domicile was in the pak side, then that is where you should have lived or died or survived.Your forefathers made a conscious decision to cross over to the indian side.You/your forefathers did not have any landed rights in indian punjab.You were refugees.The punjabis and other indians on the indian side could have refused admission , and this would have been acceptable in a court of law.Yet, they didn`t and many non punjabis opened their pocketbooks and homes to house and feed many of your kind.It is a mistake that many indian punjabis/other indians will rue.The refugees and their progeny were the first to join with their murderers against the hand that fed them over the mistakes committed in 1984.It is your kind that is pushing for open borders with pak-punjab, thereby paving the way for pakistan to infiltrate india and cause havoc , considering the capital is so close to the border, endangering the lives of other indians who are basically living with dignity in the land of their forefathers and going about their business.

SHAME ON YOU.You and your kind owe the indian nation and its` peoples gratitude and loyalty.The indian nation owes nothing to you.It is your own kind(pak muslims) that butchered your forefathers and threw them out.Not indians.Again, shame on you.Thoo.

Bishop Spong’s Critique of the Traditional Christianity Poor Jesus!!.He was a radical who was way beyond his time.Yet it is the very bourgeoise whom he found reprehensible that profit from his name and other half-hearted bourgeouse from other religions , who critique him without really studying his beliefs or brought up learning them.One of Jesus`s disciples St. Thomas lays buried in St. Thomas Mount, who was killed by the locals on the outskirts of the city of Madras, the finding of which by the British when they came to India , was instrumental in them establishing Fort St.George, currently the seat of the government of Tamilnadu,India.Anyone who wants to know about Jesus should read of the chronicles of the Mar-Thomites, the followers of St.Thomas, who founded the Mar-Thoma Greek church in the state of Kerala, India 2000 years ago.It still exists today.Jesus was and is good business.People always like a radical/reformer after they have killed him off.This way , they assuage their guilt.And, that`s why all of us conform and play to the gallery.Otherwise, we would be gotten rid of too.

Bhatti’s “Behzti (Dishonor)” hurts Sikh Sensitivities The double standards of the peoples of our region , once again being displayed for all to see in a land alien to our beliefs.We like to have our cake and eat it too.Greedy little pigs is what we all are.However reprehensible some of the sikhs might have found in the content of the play, they should not have been violent in their protest.They should remember where they live and act accordingly.When they get thrown out, which is coming very soon to an european country near you, then maybe they will question the wisdom of their actions.

Khamosh Pani Crosses the Border Noisily Who cares about b-grade pak punjabi movies??.That`s the best pak-land can come up with.India, meanwhile, is off to the moon..........

India’s Mission Moon gets mid-course correction: a softlanding in two yrs

With world watching, Chandrayaan-1 will drop ‘‘impactor’’ to see if India can get target right for future landing
RESHMA PATIL

Posted online: Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 0043 hours IST



MUMBAI, DECEMBER 18: Sometime in 2007-2008, a cuboid-shaped spaceship will rocket into space from Sriharikota, to orbit the moon for two years.

Officially, this Rs 384-crore project is not a landing mission.

But new calculations are on for Chandrayaan-1—India’s first moon voyage—to also land an estimated 25-kg gear on the dry, dusty lunar surface.



‘‘We are discussing a proposal to include an impactor, as part of the spacecraft, to be released from the spacecraft to land on the lunar surface,’’ G Madhavan Nair, chairman of the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) told The Sunday Express over e-mail from Bangalore.

But Nair also clarifies: ‘‘There is no change in the mission. Chandrayaan-1 is an unmanned scientific lunar orbiting mission, not a landing mission.’’

Scientists say the little impactor might land us a big pointer for a series of future missions under debate.

‘‘How accurately the impactor will land could be a technological trial for future soft landings,’’ says N Bhandari, senior scientist at Ahmedabad’s Physical Research Laboratory, and member of the Chandrayaan-1 science advisory board.

Mapping the moon

In a first, Chandrayaan-1 will map the Moon’s topography with a 3D terrain mapping stereo camera capable of imaging the lunar surface in black and white. Useful, because ‘‘future developments on the moon will need an accurate base map,’’ says George Joseph, chairman, Chandrayaan-1 science advisory board. India’s other lunar objectives:
• Study origin, evolution, mass concentration of Moon
• Chemical, mineral composition of Moon
• Search for Helium-3 as potential energy resource
• Probe trapped, frozen water
• 10-15 kg payload of foreign experiments



From fielding sceptics and criticism since discussions on the moon voyage began four years ago, to its approval last August, the scientific mission has come a long way, earning respect from global space scientists eyeing its progress.

Bhandari says the impactor would travel at an estimated 1.5-2 kms per second. ‘‘I don’t think it will survive the impact. It will crash on the surface, but it could tell us whether we can land on a target.’’

Chandrayaan-1 will explore the moon at a height of 100 kms from its surface. It will map its entire terrain, searching, among other goals, for frozen water, Helium-3 as an energy source and clues to its evolution. Word has spread of the new baggage on the voyage, which coincides with America’s next moon odyssey (2008)—a precursor to a US Mars exploration. ‘‘Echoes of the Chandrayaan lander impact will tell us a lot about the interior of the moon,’’ says Manuel Grande, group leader, planets and magnetospheres group, at Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in the UK, shortlisted for an experiment aboard Chandrayaan-1.

‘‘This would be especially interesting if the mission overlaps the Japanese mission to place a seismometer on the surface,’’ says Grande, frequently in telecon with Bangalore scientists. ‘‘Chandrayaan-1 will carry new instrumentation, better than what has gone before.’’

‘‘I have great expectations,’’ says Paul Spudis, planetary scientist at the Johns Hopkins University’s Applied Physics Laboratory in Maryland (USA), which has been shortlisted too, for an experiment to map ice deposits at the poles of the moon. ‘‘Indian scientists, active in space science for years, are highly respected,’’ says Spudis. ‘‘The more data we get, the better.’’

In the global race to the moon, China has planned a robotic landing and a manned mission. Japan has planned two unmanned missions this decade. The European Space Agency’s SMART-1 spacecraft recently arrived in lunar orbit.

Our space programme is not about competing with other nations, says Nair. ‘‘We have our own agenda. Despite several moon missions, including manned US missions, the origin of the moon is not fully understood.’’

The theory that the moon originated after a catastrophic collision of the Earth with a Mars-sized body over three billion years back is yet to be proved, says Nair.

Now the baseline configurations of the spacecraft are defined, scientific instruments are selected and work is on for a Deep Space Network Station (wort Rs 100 crore) near Bangalore to communicate with Chandrayaan-1, which will be over three-and-a-half lakh kms away, circling the moon.

In Ahmedabad, George Joseph, chairman of Chandrayaan-1 science advisory board, and associated with the project since conception, says he doesn’t know details of the impactor experiment but adds: ‘‘We are looking at future technology.’’

Decades from now there will be human habitation on the moon, he says. ‘‘India should be in the forefront of that endeavour.’’ ‘‘We have no plans for manned space missions at present,’’ Nair affirms.

But scientists, privately, seek a clue. The mission is, after all, labelled Chandrayaan-1.

Secret Passages #121 by Urstruly on December 16, 2004 6:37am PT

INDIA WILL MAKE SURE YOU NEVER FORGET.NEXT TIME YOUR GENERALS WILL LOSE THEIR SHIRT TOO.

Khamosh Pani Crosses the Border Noisily #91 by stuka on December 17, 2004 6:36pm PT

Instead of talking big, please try and do something about this. Because I would love an excuse to slap your Jayalalitaha licking, LTTE loving ass backwards.

.................You are an absolute example of the ungrateful, treacherous human wretchedness(aka pak punjabi hindu) that the indians felt pity and welcomed into the indian union with full status, not even a mandatory five year resident process that many countries follow.I do not resent you visiting pakistan.I have too.It is that you are where you are because of the largess and kindness of the indian state and its` citizens to your forefathers and indirectly to you, yet you choose to identify with a treacherous peoples whose raison d`etre for existence is the destruction of India.You are an ungrateful example of human wretchedness.You are a disgrace to your nation.Oh, sure, i ain`t surprised you allude to the behind.That`s the reason why you`re going there , isn`t it?.The paks specialize in rear entry.You must be salivating.haha.

Khamosh Pani Crosses the Border Noisily It is on purpose that i paste this.......i find that those who belittle India and indians other than paks , on this site are the treacherous pak-punjabis who were shown mercy by other indians in 1947.....i wish indians will wake up and throw them and their progeny out or make them stateless........india can do very well without these traitors.....those that are allowed to stay should prove their loyalty to India as some of the leaders like Manmohan Singh and LK Advani are.....

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India Among World`s Top Reformers: World Bank

The World Bank has rated India as the best among South Asian nations in improving investment climate. India is also among the top ten reformers in the world, according to a new report from the World Bank—``Doing Business in `05: Removing Obstacles to Growth``. The World Bank report said India made the most changes to improve its investment climate among South Asian countries in `04.

India Ranked No. 6 on World Travel Map

Conde Nast Traveller, a travel publication, ranked India as sixth among the top-ten destinations in its annual readers` traveler awards. India earned the points for its cultural diversity, hospitality and for being ``value for money``. Nearly 3 million tourists visited India in the year ending March 03, reflecting a jump of 18.5 % over the previous year.

Investors Optimistic On Indian Market

Global investors appear to be ``most optimistic`` on Indian market after domestic companies showed consistent long term improvement in profits since 1988, according to a survey by global merchant banking major Credit Suisse First Boston.

Investors are optimistic on IT consulting and services, semi-conductor equipment and software services sectors but are pessimistic on electronic manufacturing services, computer storage and peripherals industry, said CSFB. The CSFB HOLT, investment guide monitors and carries out valuation of 16,000 companies globally including over 6,500 Asian companies.

India on Verge of Huge Growth as per New York Stock Exchange Chief

India stands on the threshold of tremendous growth and influence as an economic power in the global community, according to the chief of the New York Stock Exchange.

India`s economic reforms favoring free markets, development of infrastructure, prudent spending and commitment to education has made India`s position stronger in the global leadership. Seven Indian companies are already listed on the stock exchange and the combined average daily trading volume of Indian stocks on NYSE this year has been over 2million shares a day.

6.4 Million New Phones from April-July 2004

Boosted by a major contribution from the private mobile telephony sector, India`s tele-density touched 7.67% with the addition of over 6.4million telephones in the April-July period, taking the total number of phones to 82.9 million. Private sector has played a major role by providing almost 85% of the expansion during these four months.

Move Over IT, Biotech`s got its own Parks Too

The Foreign Trade Policy 2004-2009 makes room for setting up of biotechnology parks across the country.

The sector is expected to generate $5 billion in revenues and create over one million jobs in the next five years, according to the Global Biotechnology Report. The policy decision based on a Department of Biotechnology (DBT) recommendation envisages all facilities available to 100% EOUs to be extended to biotech companies located in these parks.

Gradually the SOPs will be fashioned in such manner as to bring Biotechnology on par with IT. Companies which are setting up wholly-owned subsidiaries—especially in the Pharma R&D space, following the incentives announced in the Budget—will hence benefit from this policy while procuring raw material, machinery and so on.

Power Major`s Head for India

International power companies are again making a beeline for India. But the focus this time is on transmission and not generation.

In the last few months, a large number of European and Asian companies have written to the Power Grid Corporation of India enquiring about developments in the India. The list of power majors includes Spain`s Isolex Wat, South Korea`s Askone, Germany`s RTE, France`s EDF, and China Light. Some Russian and Malaysian companies have also shown interest.

Fuelling Growth: India`s Grey Revolution

A Grey Revolution is gathering momentum in India, with the largest highways construction program, power plants, housing sector and a boom in the entertainment and shopping space

Capital formation in public sector projects has grown sharply by 7.2% between the years 2002 and 2003 - an encouraging trend since such projects are the lifeline for job creation in a country like India.

Approximately $15 billion was spent by the Central Government, on construction of Power Plants, according to an estimate by the Indian Building Association, during the last 5 years

India`s 4-lane highway program (known as the Golden Quadrilateral project) connecting the four metropolitan cities of Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai, an average of 40 persons are engaged per day per kilometer of road length, creating 73 million man-days in a year.

The housing sector is set to grow at an annual rate of 50% in the next four years, with the ministry of urban development estimating India`s housing requirement at more than 22 million houses.

Construction of multistoried shopping malls across all major cities is estimated at approximately 25 million square feet of organized retail space by 2005.

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