Pervez Musharraf Ko Peace Do

#567 by nasah on January 20, 2006 5:19am PT


Mushrraf`s proposals of demilitarization of three cities to end militancy in the three cities


No militancy, no military...It`s not far fetched..that`s the way it was pre-1989..

though presented in a flippant self promoting way -- Mushrraf`s proposals of demilitarization of three cities to end militancy in the three cities MERIT a careful consideration....

a positive feed back is coming from the Indian Kashmris -- there is no harm in trying the formula -- what if it works -- it will be great for Srinagar to give it a breathing space --

Mehbooba is right -- the Indian Army should be withdrawn -- and Kashmir police should take over the law and order business in Srinagar -- if needed Kashmiri youth should be recruited by the government to maintain in police to make up for extra work... to maintain peace.

Dr. Manmohan SIngh MUST take a chance on Srinagar -- the Indian army can stay in the outskirts -- to return in case of breakdown of law and order.......let`s see if and how the cookie crumbles

India must take the gamble -- it will be mother of all CBMs.....and some reprieve to Indian Kashmiris from the suffocating hug of the Indian army...

.....DO IT DR. MANMOHAN SINGH -- DO IT

#562, rsridhar {``Why dont u tell Manto and his ilk the stinking legacy that Jinnah the mofucking pork eating bastard has left. ``}

Sri Sridhar Saheb,
Now that we are discussing Babai Qaum Hajrat Quaid-e-Ajam Mohammad Ali Jinnah Allaissalaam`s gastronomical peculiarities, may I add that he enjoyed shrimp and chablis also? :)

Ref #564:

Dear Yasser:

As per his own volition his brains has slid down to between his legs. He just has a huge godown between his hearing posts. All he knows to do is go in circles just like his mahatama and act important. This guy has no shame because he knows not.

Respectfully submitted,

Dear Rsridhar,

No need to lose your temper and prove to us that just like Gandhi you don`t have control over your impulses.

The issue here is simple... whereas I have quoted Gandhi`s own works to prove that he was a racist casteist Hindu fanatic... you unfortunately have relied on bashing Pakistanis (not to mention calling Jinnah ``mofucker``- very Gandhian indeed).

Gandhi was much like you. At Simla he broke the camera owned by Sikh journalist ... in much the same fashion. All hypocrites are the same.

Yours sincerely

YLH

re: Jinnah`s abiding legacy: Paki terrorists are caught the worldover
terrorist caught in US
Mali (of all countries!) transports Paki terrorists back to Pak
Thai Police arrests Pakis with fake passports

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/16/AR2005091601744.html

(The charges against Chandia, a legal permanent resident who emigrated from Pakistan in 1994, are an outgrowth of the ``Virginia jihad network`` case, in which nine Muslim men have been convicted over the past two years of training overseas for holy war against the United States.)
Paki terrorist in Oklahoma
Paki terrorism link in Australia:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17186582%255E601,00.html
(Martin Chulov
November 09, 2005

SYDNEY father Khaled Cheikho is believed to have trained in a paramilitary camp run by outlawed Kashmiri group Lashkar-e-Taiba in early 2001.

An ASIO target for the past two years, the 32-year-old was identified at the Pakistani camp by a rollover witness testifying in a Sydney committal hearing earlier this year.

According to the witness, Mr Cheikho`s nephew Moustafa, 28, arrived for training at the camp about a year after his uncle had returned to Australia. Moustafa was allegedly known in the camp by the alias Abu Asad.....)
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article331422.ece
(Dutch Terrorism: links with Pakistan:
t pre-trial hearings, prosecutors said the accused possessed copies of a letter left on Van Gogh`s body and handbooks on how to carry out murders.

They were heard speaking in tapped telephone conversations about slaying non-believers like sacrificial lambs. Several of them trained in Pakistan to carry out armed attacks, prosecutors said.

The first witness, identified by judges as Malika Shabi, declined to speak to the judges or even confirm her name. She sat silently as Judge de Boer read aloud excerpts from a statement she made to police in which she told of her hasty marriage to one of the suspects, Nouriddin el Fatmi.

He was arrested near an Amsterdam railway station with a machine pistol and ammunition....)

Paki Briton extradited to US for terror
And so the saga goes on. Paki terrorists caught in nearby places like Male to farflung areas like Romania. An abiding legacy of Jinnah is that the moth-eaten land has also now become terrorist-infested.
Sridhar

re:#536 by harish_hyd
Why dont u tell Manto and his ilk the stinking legacy that Jinnah the mofucking pork eating bastard has left.
That will be more fruitful than interacting with that nutcase.
Anyway, Manto probably has a lot of time at hand, suffering from one more illness that plagues that society viz squalor.
Sridhar

re:#540 by Mantolives
Manto,
You and your ilk are one reason why Pakis are so hated in India and the world over. You have your own idea of world order.
Jinnah is zilch in today`s world. Gandhiji is remembered for his principled stand of non-violence.
Now chew on that while you get orgasms over Jinnah (i know u have stopped making love to your wife for sometime now).
Sridhar

re:#530 by ranjit
Manto is symptomatic of illness that pervades every strata of Paki society. It is called obfuscation of facts. There is also self-denial as that article that i posted talks about. If something is wrong in Pak, the so-called experts there will immediately proclaim: is it not worse in India?
Pak is an aritificial creation that will go the way artificially created nations like Yugaslavia, Prussia, Soviet Union went: on a rollercoaster ride into oblivion. We need not despair at what Manto and his ilk write about Gandhi. Message is more important than the messenger. Gandhiji`s message of peace reverberates throughout the world today. Jinnah is not known outside Pakistan.
Sridhar

rsridhar...

So what that the link doesn`t have anything to do with Jinnah- I suppose everything goes when one is using Gandhian methods...

but anyway... have a nice day.


Good night rest-

Re # 556

masanamuthu,

Agree completely.
End of discussion on my part at least.

re: Pak`s violent jehadi legacy
Jinnah`s contribution to Paki state:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/07/magazine/07PAKISTAN.html?ex=1137646800&en=1b3dd23ba49fa027&ei=5070
Sridhar

The topic of this article has nothing to do with Gandhi/Jinnah.. Don`t you guys get tired??.. :-))

Anyways, we should all thank Jinnah and Gandhi for what they have done and move on with life.. Think about this..If not for Jinnah, Pakistanis would be fearing the ``domination`` by ``kafirs``, and if not for Gandhi, Indians would have to check if every line of their constitution falls in line with the ``sharia``.. :-))

If you have to blame someone for all the ills, blame that arab dude of the 7`th century..

That should read

``Syed Ahmed Khan, the great Muslim moderniser, choose to keep Muslims out of CONGRESS``

Dear Shishapa bhai...

Looks like you`ve skipped over the entire history post-1857- if indeed not the last 400 years...

The issue of religion was not the doing of Jinnah or the Muslim League. Indeed it wasn`t even Gandhi`s doing... though his support of both the Pan-Islamic Khilafat movement and also his own emphasis on Hinduism brought the religion issue out in the open...

Why did the Hindu Bourgeoisie develop separately than the Muslim Bourgeoisie... why did Sir Syed Ahmed Khan, the great Muslim moderniser, choose to keep Muslims out of Aligarh... why did Lord Minto grant the Muslim delegation`s demand for separate electorate (ironically with severe protest from Congressman Jinnah)...

Look... Khushwant Singh, who is the most secular of secular Indians, said in an interview with Christopher Mitchell - that there was very superficial mixing of Hindus/Sikhs and Muslims... it was tragic but it was a fact. This is precisely why Jinnah, in the 1920s, had pleaded with Gandhi to use parliament because he believed Hindu-Muslim unity could only be imposed if a secular elite took the initiative by completely keeping religion out and undoing the separate electorates. (Please read the excerpt from Ambedkar on Jinnah in post 205 in entirety)

What about Hindu majority areas within muslim majority areas, muslims majority
areas within hindu majority areas, buddhists majority areas within hindu majority
areas, hindu majority areas within christians majority areas?

If we keep revolving around religion like this, and keep balancing like this, when is the
time for nation building? All the time is wasted in making these arrangements.
What a nightmare.

India was not just Hindu Muslims. There were Buddhists majority areas (Ladakh),
there were Christian majority or tribal majority areas.

This too much empahsis on religion and balancing all religious balances and
manipulations would have been so counterproductive to any nation building.