Nadeem F Paracha September 29, 2006
#26 Posted by mehulkamdar on October 8, 2006 7:08:25 pm
The late Jim Morrison said in one of his songs, ``...the little Spanish girl lies on her bed, bleeding/her period, she says, is Catholic heaven/there`s a lot you can do with bed sheets and a bleeding virgin/you could plan a murder or start a new religion.`` Whether it was the founders of religions in history or today`s devious politicians hell bent on using conspiracy theory to advance their own agendas, the fact is that there are too many chowderheads ready to believe this nonsense and that is why it exists. Were people capable of rational thought, these theories would fall flat.
Is it any wonder that in schools around the world children are indoctrinated and told what they should think about instead of being thought how to think rationally? If they grew to be able to think for themselves, many of the world`s religious and political structures, founded as they are on lies down history, would fall like a pack of cards.
Is it any wonder that in schools around the world children are indoctrinated and told what they should think about instead of being thought how to think rationally? If they grew to be able to think for themselves, many of the world`s religious and political structures, founded as they are on lies down history, would fall like a pack of cards.
#25 Posted by lovely_k on October 7, 2006 7:10:45 pm
*Washington post *
June, 1991 -- The Council on Foreign Relations co-sponsors an assembly Rethinking America`s Security: Beyond Cold War to New World Order which is attended by 65 prestigious members of government, labor, academia, the media, military, and the professions from nine countries. Later, several of the conference participants joined some 100 other world leaders for another closed door meeting of the Bilderberg Society in Baden Baden, Germany. The Bilderbergers also exert considerable clout in determining the foreign policies of their respective governments.
While at that meeting, David Rockefeller said in a speech:
``We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.``
*911*
Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil.
The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.``
* ``Shock & Awe`` *
Google this word. You will find a Report by a think tank first researched and distributed in mid 80`. Published for public in mid 90`s.
This report is called
`` Shock And Awe - Rebuilding America`s Defences``
Read it throughly. It will tell you a lot.
#24 Posted by discoverer on October 7, 2006 8:37:57 am
``The so-called free media today quite unabashedly searches for markets like a toothpaste brand or a cola brand, through their marketing departments, “focus groups” and fancy sounding “market researches.”
I strongly agree with this statement but Believe it or not I read a similar article in The Washington post last year about media, conspiracy and ofcourse ISLAMIST
By the way, we never heard of terms like Religious Fanatics, Islamist etc etc until sept 11. Therefore, could some one explain to me what our writter means by ISLAMIST.
I strongly agree with this statement but Believe it or not I read a similar article in The Washington post last year about media, conspiracy and ofcourse ISLAMIST
By the way, we never heard of terms like Religious Fanatics, Islamist etc etc until sept 11. Therefore, could some one explain to me what our writter means by ISLAMIST.
#23 Posted by lovely_k on October 5, 2006 2:17:33 am
*The question is not who is winning in this war *
This is a war which was manufactured and designed like the previous ones.
911 was designed to be a pretext needed to calm the dumb populance.
This war is not meant to be a victory. Like all the previous wars started by the masonic states of America. This war is about a genocide. This is about altering the centuries old religious concepts with so-called ``freedom``. This is a war about destroying the last remaining hurdle to a World Govt that will then impose a world religion. Oil is just the `spoils of war` to finance the supplies. Ofcourse war is a very lucrative business.
#22 Posted by lovely_k on October 5, 2006 2:09:19 am
[quote]Conspiracy theories[/quote]
Here`s the synthesis
An idea comes from sub-conscious mind to conscious mind
conscious mind then think it over.
The more proof it gets, the more probable the concept becomes
The more probable it becomes, the more possible it is
The more possible it is, the more certain a person becomes.
Theory is a theory when there`s no proof. When even a little bit of proof is added, it becomes probable. The more proof you get, the more possible this theory is. And when you reach a point where possiblity far outweighs the theory, then it becomes a FACT.
Here`s the synthesis
An idea comes from sub-conscious mind to conscious mind
conscious mind then think it over.
The more proof it gets, the more probable the concept becomes
The more probable it becomes, the more possible it is
The more possible it is, the more certain a person becomes.
Theory is a theory when there`s no proof. When even a little bit of proof is added, it becomes probable. The more proof you get, the more possible this theory is. And when you reach a point where possiblity far outweighs the theory, then it becomes a FACT.
#21 Posted by ballukhan on October 3, 2006 8:38:02 pm
``Islamists are masters of rumormongering regarding events and traits that really do not require any serious political analysis. And those events that do need political analysis are instead sensationalized and mutilated until they come out looking like thrilling conspiracy theories. ``
MadarCh)@ Islamists need to be exterminated like rats..............
MadarCh)@ Islamists need to be exterminated like rats..............
#19 Posted by edgeNRidge on October 3, 2006 8:47:04 am
``Muslim evangelists``?
``grenades`` in 1857 ?
Author laments the ``sound bite`` culture yet dives deeply in the trough.
Pretentious writing stating the obvious.
``grenades`` in 1857 ?
Author laments the ``sound bite`` culture yet dives deeply in the trough.
Pretentious writing stating the obvious.
#18 Posted by ballukhan on October 3, 2006 1:27:59 am
The poverty of Historicism- that is what we are seeing . Charlatan mullahs, Popes are thriving in this world by working on the SCARE of an impending doom. The doomsday predictors who talk about the SIGNS by tehmselves creating these signs (Every one must see the movie ``Seven``). The real perpetrators of all this nonsense in the Islamic world are these mullahs and the ayotollahs and priests who see the wealth around them and wonder how come the almighty has not rewarded them with all those mercedes and private jets that the modern entrepreneur owns despite their self professed claim to follow the almighty`s true path.
All this strife is a creation of those good for nothing madarassa graduated idiots who find themselves left behind by the modern economy. We find that they are now using Islam and the political arena to gain control over the resources of the world when they infact cannot provide any role in the creation of the wealth.
These mullahs, ayotollahs and popes must be made to do hard labour. Once they start contributing to the society then all those conspiracy theories would be excuses of the past.
All this strife is a creation of those good for nothing madarassa graduated idiots who find themselves left behind by the modern economy. We find that they are now using Islam and the political arena to gain control over the resources of the world when they infact cannot provide any role in the creation of the wealth.
These mullahs, ayotollahs and popes must be made to do hard labour. Once they start contributing to the society then all those conspiracy theories would be excuses of the past.
#17 Posted by rf786 on October 2, 2006 2:35:51 pm
Re: # 16
VRV,
God knows I do not wish to be the person defending Zee or his ideas. Having said that you yourself admit this is a `Google world. No info is exclusive`. More importantly, Big Brother is probably already looking over our shoulder, not that I subscribe to conspiracy theories but from what we read on wire tappings et al this is not a far fetched hypothesis.
We do live in a dangerous world, the thought of being on an ill-fated bus or airplane can cause anxiety, sleep loss and moral dilemma of what to do. But, what is a bigger threat today, acts terrorism or disappearing rights of dissent and freedom to express? I guess everyone will have their own measure, for me who has experienced both in some way or the other would rather like my children to enjoy their rights as equal citizens who can express their outrage in a civilized, democratic manner.
VRV,
God knows I do not wish to be the person defending Zee or his ideas. Having said that you yourself admit this is a `Google world. No info is exclusive`. More importantly, Big Brother is probably already looking over our shoulder, not that I subscribe to conspiracy theories but from what we read on wire tappings et al this is not a far fetched hypothesis.
We do live in a dangerous world, the thought of being on an ill-fated bus or airplane can cause anxiety, sleep loss and moral dilemma of what to do. But, what is a bigger threat today, acts terrorism or disappearing rights of dissent and freedom to express? I guess everyone will have their own measure, for me who has experienced both in some way or the other would rather like my children to enjoy their rights as equal citizens who can express their outrage in a civilized, democratic manner.
#16 Posted by VRV on October 2, 2006 1:24:42 pm
Re: # 13
rf786,
This is Google world. No info is exclusive.
Zee was somewhat rational when it comes to discussing economic issues, though he didnt go that far to be called an expert. I agree.
When I was speding a long night on Sunday I felt like reading Zee`s posts. The partcular post stuck me to the point that I thought thast I shud send msgs to the people I sent. That`s a good decision, in my view coz, we all travel by air but there cud be come persons who are in an agitated mind cud resort to the action that was suggested by Zee. That I felt was dangerous.
I did only a thing that is possible i.e sending msgs and alerting the relevant people. How they act and how they respond is up to them.
Yes, it cud be a rare situation (by probability) that I wud in the same plane as the person who wud do that (terrorism) but there cud be somebody like u or somebody who shud die becoz of this.
I dont think I am irrational. Air travel is a delicate thing. A small bird hit cud fell an aeroplane. U can understand what I mean.
rf786,
This is Google world. No info is exclusive.
Zee was somewhat rational when it comes to discussing economic issues, though he didnt go that far to be called an expert. I agree.
When I was speding a long night on Sunday I felt like reading Zee`s posts. The partcular post stuck me to the point that I thought thast I shud send msgs to the people I sent. That`s a good decision, in my view coz, we all travel by air but there cud be come persons who are in an agitated mind cud resort to the action that was suggested by Zee. That I felt was dangerous.
I did only a thing that is possible i.e sending msgs and alerting the relevant people. How they act and how they respond is up to them.
Yes, it cud be a rare situation (by probability) that I wud in the same plane as the person who wud do that (terrorism) but there cud be somebody like u or somebody who shud die becoz of this.
I dont think I am irrational. Air travel is a delicate thing. A small bird hit cud fell an aeroplane. U can understand what I mean.
#15 Posted by baaghiraja on October 2, 2006 7:13:48 am
Indeed. Cartridges they were and not gernades. My bad.
rgds,
NfP
rgds,
NfP
#14 Posted by KaalChakra on October 1, 2006 3:46:17 pm
Conspiracy theories, rumors and innuendos engineered to inflame base passions, and countless other means of distoriting reality are time-honored, perfected tools of lethal warfare. The more a society sees itself at war with others, and the more it considers itself separate from those others, the more readily it will use those tools of warfare against those others.
Consumerist utopia is the same as the state of apocalyptic world endings? It was probably good that NFP didn`t dig too deep into that discussion.
Consumerist utopia is the same as the state of apocalyptic world endings? It was probably good that NFP didn`t dig too deep into that discussion.
#13 Posted by rf786 on October 1, 2006 2:36:49 pm
Re: # 11
VRV,
I respect your right to have an opinion, to criticize, to question thats how civilized societies solve their problems. Unfortunately, when violence is rationalized, justified that certainly makes ppl nervous.
On a separate note, I disagree with your notion that Zee is a geniius when it comes to discussing matters of economics, on the contrary his views on economics seem to be tainted by his prejuidices.
Jokes aside, how far sud we allow open discussion before hitting the red button? Should we not be defending the right to disagree and agree?
VRV,
I respect your right to have an opinion, to criticize, to question thats how civilized societies solve their problems. Unfortunately, when violence is rationalized, justified that certainly makes ppl nervous.
On a separate note, I disagree with your notion that Zee is a geniius when it comes to discussing matters of economics, on the contrary his views on economics seem to be tainted by his prejuidices.
Jokes aside, how far sud we allow open discussion before hitting the red button? Should we not be defending the right to disagree and agree?
#12 Posted by beady on October 1, 2006 2:06:33 pm
to be precise, it was the cartridge which had to be torn open, not the bullet nor the grenade.
#11 Posted by VRV on October 1, 2006 12:42:14 pm
Re: # 10
rf786,
When Zee had his horses under control, he`s a sweet man but when his horses are out of control he supports terrorism. That bothers me. It`s possible I cud be or my family cud be travelling on the plane that had a person like Zeemx on board.
U can imagine the consequences :-(
No disrespect to Zee. He`s a genius in discussing matters of Economic importance. On terrorism, he`s not.
rf786,
When Zee had his horses under control, he`s a sweet man but when his horses are out of control he supports terrorism. That bothers me. It`s possible I cud be or my family cud be travelling on the plane that had a person like Zeemx on board.
U can imagine the consequences :-(
No disrespect to Zee. He`s a genius in discussing matters of Economic importance. On terrorism, he`s not.
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