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Election Boycott

Ahsan Shahbaz December 10, 2007

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#21 Posted by Farjad on December 14, 2007 4:34:41 am
1. In the Jan 2008 elections PPP will be the biggest winner, PML(N) & PML(Q) at 2 and 3. PPP will form the next government by simple majority or by marginal help from smaller parties MQM, JUI(F).

2. This result will outwardly legitimize the elections as PML Q which is the Kings party will be shown not to have won in a supposedly fair elections.This is after all parties privy to the deal work hard to make sure a high voter participation in the elections.

2.BB as PM has agreed to work with Musharraf as Prez and she will control all domestic affairs with Musharraf taking care of US agenda in Pakistan.US will monitor that both sides stick to their part of the deal.

3. Nawaz came with the prior understanding that he personally will not be allowed to take part in the elections and he is therefore sticking to that part of his deal. He may in fact support BB under the garb of restoration of true democracy.PML (N) will be the friendly opposition which will do everything except toppling the government.

4. Provinsial governments: PML(N) Punjab, PPP with MQM sind,PML(q)& JUI(F)NWFP, Balochistan.


4. BB,Nawaz,Mush and the US have come to conclusion that judges will never be restored as a truly free judiciary may prove detrimental to their policies.

5.Fazl U Rehman will be the religious face of the arrangement used to counter those religious parties which oppose this alliance.

6. Imran Khan,JI,lawyers and the real opposition will be provided marginal space to function and the establishment expects this movement to weaken once a new government is formed.

Those who supposedly control our destiny have voted and 160 million Pakistanis will just be completing the formalities in Jan 2007.

Thats why boycott is the best strategy to discredit the whole unholy arrangement.


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#20 Posted by ahsan.shahbaz on December 13, 2007 7:30:00 pm
Re: # 18 econfused ... i agree Nawaz is the lesser evil... but if street movement is effective i would prefer a election boycott from general public that will result in low turnover and it will tell you what people really want..

well author has to interact, it is a learning process for both author and reader.
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#19 Posted by econfused on December 13, 2007 9:35:55 am
Glad to see the author in interacts. Last time there was an article from Lota Ahmed Quraishi, he did not dare to respond.
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#18 Posted by econfused on December 13, 2007 9:32:46 am
Re #17,

I don't know if recall Ch. Nisar on Capital Talk, but he said PML-N voters are shareef people. They are not Jayalas and not ready to be get beaten up. I still agree, I have seen people who might not go for street protests, as they are scared, but they do sure vote.

Personally, I would prefer to boycott. I will still go for street protests if any. I would also vote for NS, just to make sure PMLQ get the run for their money
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#17 Posted by ahsan.shahbaz on December 13, 2007 9:22:11 am
Re: # 14 econfused.. regarding wat apdm did to nawaz... he should first ask where was his own Pml - n. Before making such statements we should keep this in mind that only party with street power in punjab is PML-N as far as other parties are concerned their leaders were under house arrest like PMl-N leaders.. there was nothing APDM would have done.

JI has a gloomy past but according to them that was to save useless MMA. Mulanna was the main player... having said that i still don't trust JI and never will...

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#16 Posted by ahsan.shahbaz on December 13, 2007 9:03:28 am
correction
and small parties , passing the*
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#15 Posted by ahsan.shahbaz on December 13, 2007 8:59:14 am
Re: # 12 Nasah in your replies you missed out on several points that i made... We have to decide whether the elections will be "free and fair".... alright we all know elections will be rigged... The point is why boycott is the best option ? .... PPP is Musharraf's B team so is Mulana Fazl ur rehman then we have PML - Q and MQM and small parties etc.

The new parliament will endorse these PCO actions and will e declare it valid, with PPP , PML - Q , MQM , JUI-F and small passing the amendment is piece of cake ... forget that chaudhry's will win with huge majority, then it will be clear that election were rigged.

Bang PCO endorsed !!!

Lets say Nawaz is sitting in opposition then what ? How can he bring back the judges , the parliament will pass that amendment, pml-n will do nothing ??

Now Coming towards the point that I made in my article nawaz is a collaborator...

Why is that Nawaz arrived on the last day of nomination submission, why wasn't he arrested? why is shahbaz sharif was not arrested in Sabzazar Case? There was a ban on public gathering, i didn't see any big crack down in fact nawaz made glorious speeches. In his very first interview on landing he said "hum elections mein bharpoor hisah lain gay" later on he said APDM will decide. Then suddenly the very next day of APDM meeting Shahbaz Sharif said there is internal party pressure to participate?

Musharraf going to saudia arabia , king sending nawaz back and while we are talking about S.A we should remember one little fact, SA's high command is in Washington.

Then came the much expected news that PML - N leadership wants to participate in elections.

Ok lets say "go to hell judges".

coming back to voters, Name one big landmark development in any of PML - N constituencies? thinking still thinking .... keep on thinking. Imran who you call "imranis"... lets look at his constituency achievements, from what i have read and watched i think you heard about Naamal College(i don't know if spelled it right), the technical college(in collaboration with bradford uni england) for poor who can not afford higher education. Plus a chain of free schools with an international organization... that all is that i know abt his achievement... what do i know about PML-N's achievements on constituency level ?

For boycott you have follow principles, politics should be done on principles not for benefits!!

Why is it that judges and lawyers are not happy with Nawaz Sharif ...if he is doing the right thing... why is it that PML-N's Zafar Ali Shah announced that he had withdrawn his candidature for judges and lawyers.. you can search about it... i think news just came...

I hope you are wise enough to analyze the above facts before making your next interact. :D

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#14 Posted by econfused on December 13, 2007 7:20:18 am
I might not like NS decision, but I still think that he made the right decision. He understood what APDM did to him on September 10th. He also saw what JI did to Imran Khan at Punjab University.

One also has to ask if JI is that serious about Judiciary, what it has been waiting for to launch a street movement. We all know and see that JI can organize the best street protests.

JI is playing the B team for Mush, by staying in Drawing rooms. I don't know if author remembers are not, but there were about 25 to 30K people gathered on Nov 3, for their annual meeting. If they wanted, they could have changed history.

So NS might look stupid, he knows, he an still launch a protest after 8th, but he cannot count on I for that.
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#13 Posted by nasah on December 13, 2007 6:07:59 am
The Naysayers say that if we boycott election en masse -- Musharraf regime will be discredited!

Discredited? -- that regime stands discredited for the past 9 years -- discredited at its inception when it hijacked at gunpoint a civilian government -- it was discredited when the dictator got 'elected' by 90% stuffed votes in referendum -- it got discredited when the dictator fired the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in his army office wearing that stupid army uniform.

It was discredited when the fired CJ was restored by the Supreme Court.

The Mother of all discredits happened -- when the dictator invaded the highest court of his own country -- jailed each and every true judge -- and turned the building into a Servants Quarters for the Executive branch -- more appropriately into a DOG POUND headed by a dog judge named DOGER (definitely a Dog who erred) -- and jailed 7 thousand lawyers and judges in the name of fighting terrorism -- with no functioning Court worth the salt for whole two months post that cultural 'Emergency'.

Who has heard something like this happening to a developed country like Pakistan -- anywhere else -- in these days and age.

Does anybody think Musharraf wanted an election? -- or he was willing to take off his uniform? -- or ready to give up his COAS post?

Musharraf -- to his ultimate father of all discredits -- was forced to peel off his army uniform -- forced to give up his COAS post -- and FORCED to hold the mother of all elections – and we KNOW by whom.

And then the stupid Imaranis would like Pakistani voters to sleep out this election -- and let Musharraf's chilum boys hijack yet another election in broad day light -- for yet another 8 years.

With such stupid friends do Pakistani voters need an enemy of democracy like Musharraf?
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#12 Posted by nasah on December 12, 2007 9:04:45 pm
Re: # 11

"by boycotting elections Nawaz would have been a HERO in eyes of general public."

my dear Ahsan -- becoming a 'HERO' in the eyes of general public by boycotting the election does 'sound' heart-warming -- but tell me how many votes being called a HERO will deliver Nawaz Sharif from his 'HERO worshiping' public?

If you want a free fair and transparent election then you have to fight the election -- not sit in your drawing room drawing Hitler's moustache on Musharraf's mug -- whatever the odds.

Sitting out the election by the opposition en mass -- will make the election free fair and very transparent – there will be no need for rigging – actually that is the kind of – unopposed, 'free, fair election' -- Madari Musharraf wants for his leashed monkeys.

If you give up and don't fight the election how would you know or claim if the election was rigged?

Imran with a party of one -- can afford that luxury-- not the PML(N). With one of the two largest vote banks in the country, especially in Punjab -- with equally large responsibility to his Pakistani voters in Punjab -- Nawaz Sharif in Punjab -- and Benazir in Sindh -- simply could not in good conscience DENY their voters their RIGHT to vote.

Specially after 9 years of naked one-man uncultured dictatorship! Think about it
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#11 Posted by ahsan.shahbaz on December 12, 2007 11:58:16 am
Re: # 9 ---- nasah i can understand your excitement about nawaz taking part in elections. A question how can you believe that elections will be "free and fair", lets say with rigged elections Nawaz wins around 30 seats then what? same old story we shout you shout and at end of the day opposition walks out, nothing productive. It was and will be a rubber stamp parliament. look at the bigger picture gods in America want BB and she is talking their language, if Nawaz can please those gods then he will get a few more seats.

by boycotting elections Nawaz would have been a HERO in eyes of general public. He would have discredited these elections. How can you possibly think PML - Q will loose to nawaz?. Why do people make their arguments with an assumption of free and fair elections? Come on Rigging is confirmed.

There is no difference between nawaz and Mulanna. Our politicians have a price, all you have to do is offer them a good deal.

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#10 Posted by scorp_afghan on December 12, 2007 8:59:46 am

Imran Khan - Only hope for sane leadership.

GO IMRAN ...
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#9 Posted by nasah on December 11, 2007 10:12:31 pm
"President pledges to cooperate with whoever wins polls:

"I am not a trouble maker" (Musharraf)

"I am not a crook" - either. (Nixon)

"The Q League must be shaking in its pants -- unless heavily rigged their goose is cooked -- and so is Musharraf's".




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#8 Posted by nasah on December 11, 2007 7:42:14 pm
"Pakistani politics is a circus full of clowns. Mulana Fazl Ur Rehman and Benazir are from the obedient category of clowns; they will never go against the wishes of their masters."(author)

The king of all clowns is Clown King Musharraf -- he thought that by banning Nawaz Sharif from fighting election he will make him so mad NS will boycott the election -- and hand over the NA to those pathetic turncoat quislings -- as his leashed monkeys for another 5 years -- but Nawaz Sharif was not born yesterday -- that Aap Dumb APDM was an albatross around NS neck -- I am glad NS got rid of those stupid Imrani naysayer Dums and Dummers in a hurry -- and went back to ARD where he really belonged. The Q League must be shaking in its pants -- unless heavily rigged their goose is cooked -- and so is Musharraf's.

Committing hara-kiri for principle is stabbing the principle right in its left ventricle -- something only an organization named AaPDuM can do instead of fighting it out even on an uneven playing field.
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#7 Posted by krashid1961 on December 11, 2007 5:11:07 pm
I think there were 34 parties not 33
Why are you forgetting my party "Justice and freedom Party"
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#6 Posted by tahmed32 on December 11, 2007 1:30:38 pm
GT #3 Well said. Mush is now caught in a pincer movement - between the mainstream parties who called his bluff and are running for elections, and a civil society (lawyers, students, human rights activists, imran khan and oddly enough JI) rejecting any elections without restoration of the Chief Justice.

So - the "oversmart" and lawless ex-general has been painted into a corner.
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    #20 ahsan.shahbaz
    #19 econfused
    #18 econfused
    #17 ahsan.shahbaz
    #16 ahsan.shahbaz
    #15 ahsan.shahbaz
    #14 econfused
    #13 nasah
    #12 nasah
    #11 ahsan.shahbaz
    #10 scorp_afghan
    #9 nasah
    #8 nasah
    #7 krashid1961
    #6 tahmed32
    #5 GT
    #4 pavocavalry
    #3 GT
    #2 Urstruly
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