Murtaza Shibli July 7, 2008
#220 Posted by tahir on July 19, 2008 10:25:15 am
Re: # 203 Hairy
What bike do you have? Is it a hard-tail, a dual-susser or a unicycle?
What bike do you have? Is it a hard-tail, a dual-susser or a unicycle?
#219 Posted by nkg on July 16, 2008 8:44:21 pm
Re: # 218
I have to learn history from arab slave,barbarians like you?
I have to learn history from arab slave,barbarians like you?
#218 Posted by Mystic on July 16, 2008 2:00:04 pm
Re: # 214
Nehru was son of clerk, who got some decent education, but did not possess any quality to lead.... "
nkg Oh Really Who ws Moti Lal nehru ..He had his dress laundered in Paris which is mythical but says about his qualificatin as Barrister before nehru jinnah And Gandh If i am not wrong .I beginning to doubt if you know Any history just gutter hindu ism who happens to be bengali .
No hindu bengali in sane mind will buy u r paranoid schzophrenic opinion
Nehru was son of clerk, who got some decent education, but did not possess any quality to lead.... "
nkg Oh Really Who ws Moti Lal nehru ..He had his dress laundered in Paris which is mythical but says about his qualificatin as Barrister before nehru jinnah And Gandh If i am not wrong .I beginning to doubt if you know Any history just gutter hindu ism who happens to be bengali .
No hindu bengali in sane mind will buy u r paranoid schzophrenic opinion
#217 Posted by giani_240 on July 16, 2008 1:41:33 pm
Farzana's "opinions" reminds me of the colloquial proverb "Dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka"
#216 Posted by _arjun12 on July 16, 2008 1:21:23 pm
Vast majority of Muslim MPs to vote for N-deal
NEW DELHI: Despite Opposition hopes that Muslim MPs might find it difficult to vote for the nuclear deal with an 'anti-Islamic' Bush administration, it is becoming clear that the vast majority of them will be backing the government in the confidence vote.
Of the 37 Muslims who are currently Lok Sabha MPs, 26 are in parties that are part of the UPA or have declared their support for the government in the vote, while 11 are with anti-deal parties like the CPM, BSP, BJP or JD(U).
TOI spoke to most of them on Wednesday and found hardly any who see the issue as having anything to do with the community.
Most, on both sides of the divide, affirm that they will abide by their party's stand, those against the government dubbing the deal harmful to the country's interests and those in favour asserting that it would serve India's objectives.
Interestingly, an avowedly Muslim party like the Muslim League in Kerala is firmly in the pro-government camp and even Asaduddin Owaisi of the All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM) seems likely to stick by the UPA, though he said, "MIM will take a decision...on July 19 after consultations with party president Sultan Salahuddin Owaisi."
Also, of the two Kashmir parties, Mehbooba Mufti from the PDP has committed her support to the government, while Omar Abdullah's National Conference too appears to be veering around to throwing its weight behind the deal.
There are some exceptions though. UP has the largest contingent of Muslim MPs with seven in the SP and four in the BSP. SP MP Munnawar Hasan has made it clear that he will vote against the government.
SP MP Munnawar Hasan said: "I will defy the party whip...By extending support to the deal, Mulayam has played with the sentiments of Muslims and his true face has now come to the fore." However, it's no secret that Hasan's differences with the party high command pre-date its hobnobbing with the Congress.
NEW DELHI: Despite Opposition hopes that Muslim MPs might find it difficult to vote for the nuclear deal with an 'anti-Islamic' Bush administration, it is becoming clear that the vast majority of them will be backing the government in the confidence vote.
Of the 37 Muslims who are currently Lok Sabha MPs, 26 are in parties that are part of the UPA or have declared their support for the government in the vote, while 11 are with anti-deal parties like the CPM, BSP, BJP or JD(U).
TOI spoke to most of them on Wednesday and found hardly any who see the issue as having anything to do with the community.
Most, on both sides of the divide, affirm that they will abide by their party's stand, those against the government dubbing the deal harmful to the country's interests and those in favour asserting that it would serve India's objectives.
Interestingly, an avowedly Muslim party like the Muslim League in Kerala is firmly in the pro-government camp and even Asaduddin Owaisi of the All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM) seems likely to stick by the UPA, though he said, "MIM will take a decision...on July 19 after consultations with party president Sultan Salahuddin Owaisi."
Also, of the two Kashmir parties, Mehbooba Mufti from the PDP has committed her support to the government, while Omar Abdullah's National Conference too appears to be veering around to throwing its weight behind the deal.
There are some exceptions though. UP has the largest contingent of Muslim MPs with seven in the SP and four in the BSP. SP MP Munnawar Hasan has made it clear that he will vote against the government.
SP MP Munnawar Hasan said: "I will defy the party whip...By extending support to the deal, Mulayam has played with the sentiments of Muslims and his true face has now come to the fore." However, it's no secret that Hasan's differences with the party high command pre-date its hobnobbing with the Congress.
#215 Posted by nkg on July 15, 2008 12:09:53 am
Re: # 204
Vengat, Hari...
Harsh weather makes people physically strong...
Gurkhas and other people from hilly North East (even Kumaoni and Gahrwalis) are far better compared to rest of us...
Vengat, Hari...
Harsh weather makes people physically strong...
Gurkhas and other people from hilly North East (even Kumaoni and Gahrwalis) are far better compared to rest of us...
#214 Posted by nkg on July 14, 2008 11:54:18 pm
Re: # 206
Shah...
Are you moslem? Then it was expected from you.
Moslems had nothing to loose, as per as Bengal was concerned. They were anyhow crapy people and were at bottom in all fields (most them were farm labours). Only way to lift them was through lawlessness (Muhammed's preferred way). During partition, the way Gandhi tried to protect moslems/barbarians, caused immense damage to West Bengal. A thorough, systematic partition would have created nice, prosperous West Bengal, which could have contributed better to India as a whole.
To Majumder mahashaya:
Those who have migrated from East Bengal, should have taken some initiative for cleanup activity (stat of Assam and West Bengal should have looked more like Punjab than 1/2 katua country). Most of the rising political leaders were from East Bengal (Jyoti Basu, Bidhan Roy,Pramod Dasgupta...)....
I like Vivekananda most, due to his vision. He was knowing the devastating effect of mediaval arab barbarism on India. So, he stressed more on society building than getting rid of Brits from administration. Sveral times, he warned Sister Nivedita to distance herself from the political movement of Congress.....
Subhash Bose was emotional fool, who had no understanding about India as a whole, or any vision, what India will be after some time (say 50 years)....
Gandhi was tortured in South Africa, so, he had to take revenge as early as possible.....
Nehru was son of clerk, who got some decent education, but did not possess any quality to lead....
Shah...
Are you moslem? Then it was expected from you.
Moslems had nothing to loose, as per as Bengal was concerned. They were anyhow crapy people and were at bottom in all fields (most them were farm labours). Only way to lift them was through lawlessness (Muhammed's preferred way). During partition, the way Gandhi tried to protect moslems/barbarians, caused immense damage to West Bengal. A thorough, systematic partition would have created nice, prosperous West Bengal, which could have contributed better to India as a whole.
To Majumder mahashaya:
Those who have migrated from East Bengal, should have taken some initiative for cleanup activity (stat of Assam and West Bengal should have looked more like Punjab than 1/2 katua country). Most of the rising political leaders were from East Bengal (Jyoti Basu, Bidhan Roy,Pramod Dasgupta...)....
I like Vivekananda most, due to his vision. He was knowing the devastating effect of mediaval arab barbarism on India. So, he stressed more on society building than getting rid of Brits from administration. Sveral times, he warned Sister Nivedita to distance herself from the political movement of Congress.....
Subhash Bose was emotional fool, who had no understanding about India as a whole, or any vision, what India will be after some time (say 50 years)....
Gandhi was tortured in South Africa, so, he had to take revenge as early as possible.....
Nehru was son of clerk, who got some decent education, but did not possess any quality to lead....
#213 Posted by satyamvada on July 14, 2008 10:47:01 am
As I pointed out in #143, #145 & #146, the elites had indulged in a land grab in pakistan while holding onto property in India.
FV posts some irrelevant article about Aga Khan supporting the british. What is important is the Agakhan being president of the muslim league and advocating pakistan!
Coffee at 225Rs is probably needed, to mask the stench of hypocrisy.
#212 Posted by _arjun11 on July 14, 2008 9:14:11 am
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#211 Posted by Shah2 on July 14, 2008 9:09:39 am
"Majumder...
But the way Bengal progressed from 1870s, it definitely shows, people were not very bad" NKG not majumders statement
But the way Bengal progressed from 1870s, it definitely shows, people were not very bad" NKG not majumders statement
#210 Posted by Shah2 on July 14, 2008 8:33:59 am
Re: # 198
Majumder...
But the way Bengal progressed from 1870s, it definitely shows, people were not very bad
Who says ppl are bad .The second generation like inmost cases just starts living on money and fame earned by there fathers and ancestors.Bihar now produces more ias ifs ips than bengal .who would you give discredit for that ?
Majumder...
But the way Bengal progressed from 1870s, it definitely shows, people were not very bad
Who says ppl are bad .The second generation like inmost cases just starts living on money and fame earned by there fathers and ancestors.Bihar now produces more ias ifs ips than bengal .who would you give discredit for that ?
#209 Posted by Shah2 on July 14, 2008 8:22:32 am
Re: # 166
Lack of discipline is the major reason for downfall of cow belt, which, in my opinion started with islamic invastion ( chaotic society)...
British ruled for 200yrs AFTER islamic invasion .You want to blame your great great grand father for your upbringing and how you turned out
#196
You are right all noble and awards knight hood does not mean too much .There always very close second .And evey body knows no one antagonist to british or west should cry about it .Sweden U.K. America will be masters a long as we remain slave atleast looking for thee APPROVAL
Lack of discipline is the major reason for downfall of cow belt, which, in my opinion started with islamic invastion ( chaotic society)...
British ruled for 200yrs AFTER islamic invasion .You want to blame your great great grand father for your upbringing and how you turned out
#196
You are right all noble and awards knight hood does not mean too much .There always very close second .And evey body knows no one antagonist to british or west should cry about it .Sweden U.K. America will be masters a long as we remain slave atleast looking for thee APPROVAL
#208 Posted by Shah2 on July 14, 2008 8:11:10 am
'Regarding lazy Bengalis, I can show you various fields, where Bengal was leading upto 1960s- Education,Industry ( Steel, Manufacturing, Jute, Chemical). So, suddenly Bengali population had become lazy after partition?'
Comunist did not come in to power till late 60s .Who would you blame if things were dandy BEFORE them Yes u are right w Bangal was the best Industrialised state whare WHOLE india found job and worked hard and laziness of one was compensated and evened out in averge .But Unions and exit of labour for other states industry including Mumbais textile & manufacturing .All Communist did was unions which closed all industres and drove away the important aspect of al industry and development by parochialism
Comunist did not come in to power till late 60s .Who would you blame if things were dandy BEFORE them Yes u are right w Bangal was the best Industrialised state whare WHOLE india found job and worked hard and laziness of one was compensated and evened out in averge .But Unions and exit of labour for other states industry including Mumbais textile & manufacturing .All Communist did was unions which closed all industres and drove away the important aspect of al industry and development by parochialism
#207 Posted by Shah2 on July 14, 2008 8:01:43 am
"Regardibg Bengal, it was the worst effected area of partition and was destroyed by jelous cow belt congress leaders..."
Partition did not affect only one community did it ?Its unfortunate for those people .By far Indian & West Bengal much better job of rehabilitating and helping than East bengali who just benefited passively from the migrants.
If any body B.C. ROY who did most for W Bengal. anyother states chief minister after independence were worthless corrupt dictators .canyou give any other chief minister..like b c Roy who selflessly devoted b/c he was unmarried (and had noimmediate family although he did have lovers .
All the other Chef ministes were chor Kairon in Punjab Patnaik in Orissa C.B Gupta in U.P ,Sahay in Bihar .
I dont say all congress were honorable and honest but anarchy violence of 60 /70 used to usurp power by violent means by communist has not resulted in any bettr state .
Partition did not affect only one community did it ?Its unfortunate for those people .By far Indian & West Bengal much better job of rehabilitating and helping than East bengali who just benefited passively from the migrants.
If any body B.C. ROY who did most for W Bengal. anyother states chief minister after independence were worthless corrupt dictators .canyou give any other chief minister..like b c Roy who selflessly devoted b/c he was unmarried (and had noimmediate family although he did have lovers .
All the other Chef ministes were chor Kairon in Punjab Patnaik in Orissa C.B Gupta in U.P ,Sahay in Bihar .
I dont say all congress were honorable and honest but anarchy violence of 60 /70 used to usurp power by violent means by communist has not resulted in any bettr state .
#206 Posted by Shah2 on July 14, 2008 8:01:43 am
"Regardibg Bengal, it was the worst effected area of partition and was destroyed by jelous cow belt congress leaders..."
Partition did not affect only one community did it ?Its unfortunate for those people .By far Indian & West Bengal much better job of rehabilitating and helping than East bengali who just benefited passively from the migrants.
If any body B.C. ROY who did most for W Bengal. anyother states chief minister after independence were worthless corrupt dictators .canyou give any other chief minister..like b c Roy who selflessly devoted b/c he was unmarried (and had noimmediate family although he did have lovers .
All the other Chef ministes were chor Kairon in Punjab Patnaik in Orissa C.B Gupta in U.P ,Sahay in Bihar .
I dont say all congress were honorable and honest but anarchy violence of 60 /70 used to usurp power by violent means by communist has not resulted in any bettr state .
Partition did not affect only one community did it ?Its unfortunate for those people .By far Indian & West Bengal much better job of rehabilitating and helping than East bengali who just benefited passively from the migrants.
If any body B.C. ROY who did most for W Bengal. anyother states chief minister after independence were worthless corrupt dictators .canyou give any other chief minister..like b c Roy who selflessly devoted b/c he was unmarried (and had noimmediate family although he did have lovers .
All the other Chef ministes were chor Kairon in Punjab Patnaik in Orissa C.B Gupta in U.P ,Sahay in Bihar .
I dont say all congress were honorable and honest but anarchy violence of 60 /70 used to usurp power by violent means by communist has not resulted in any bettr state .
#205 Posted by Shah2 on July 14, 2008 8:01:43 am
"Regardibg Bengal, it was the worst effected area of partition and was destroyed by jelous cow belt congress leaders..."
Partition did not affect only one community did it ?Its unfortunate for those people .By far Indian & West Bengal much better job of rehabilitating and helping than East bengali who just benefited passively from the migrants.
If any body B.C. ROY who did most for W Bengal. anyother states chief minister after independence were worthless corrupt dictators .canyou give any other chief minister..like b c Roy who selflessly devoted b/c he was unmarried (and had noimmediate family although he did have lovers .
All the other Chef ministes were chor Kairon in Punjab Patnaik in Orissa C.B Gupta in U.P ,Sahay in Bihar .
I dont say all congress were honorable and honest but anarchy violence of 60 /70 used to usurp power by violent means by communist has not resulted in any bettr state .
Partition did not affect only one community did it ?Its unfortunate for those people .By far Indian & West Bengal much better job of rehabilitating and helping than East bengali who just benefited passively from the migrants.
If any body B.C. ROY who did most for W Bengal. anyother states chief minister after independence were worthless corrupt dictators .canyou give any other chief minister..like b c Roy who selflessly devoted b/c he was unmarried (and had noimmediate family although he did have lovers .
All the other Chef ministes were chor Kairon in Punjab Patnaik in Orissa C.B Gupta in U.P ,Sahay in Bihar .
I dont say all congress were honorable and honest but anarchy violence of 60 /70 used to usurp power by violent means by communist has not resulted in any bettr state .
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