MQM - History and Origins

Karachi is not a secular city. In fact history has showed that Mohajirs have always voted for religious parties versus mainstream parties. If you look at rural Punjab, Sindh and Balauchistan, the voting usually is not along religious lines. In terms of being progressive/liberal, the Mohajir middle class is much more conservative than many others in Pakistan.

The MQM dominated areas are the same areas that voted for religious parties in the past. The implication of this is either religious parties were simply a garb for ethnic parties or that Mohajirs are more religious/conservative than others.

hamidm: or is it frustrations with the retirement fund heading south that is causing this hostility, sahib? but, never fear...sarah palin, doggoneit, will shoot down a moose for you. and mccain will tell that uppity Obama he "dont unnerstaaaand" and the markets will bounce back.

#124 hamidm sahib: You are now prattling, sahib (as Qibla Peon of the West would have said). Underneath the prattle, I sense a touch of hostility sahib (as Dr. Phil would have said). You need to go to the golf course more often sahib.

Re: # 119

ahmedmadani

I am a great admirer of your writings, please do keep writing and ignore the few odd balls for they are victims of their own prejuidices.

Re: # 121

tahmed mian,

....it seems that you have started a new movement against the mqm ......... does this mean that you have abandoned your struggle for the restoration of an independent judiciary and the rule of law in pakistan ? ....... did you check with the unwashed masses before you made this decision ? .......

... i wish you success in your new battle against scoundrels like madani sahib ..... and watch out for the windmills

Welll heres something should be clreared that Altaf Hussain is an Indian agent. He sings this song proudly "Saarey jahan se acha hindustan hamara". what it means of that? MQM+Bhhatta=Dehshat gardi. I m eye witness of this bhhatta recovery by MQM agents. Now altaf lovers dont shout on this because tht is truth.

Re: # 121

Ah, t-ahmed PAI the self-righteous and judgmental!

qibla hamidm sahib: i tried refreshing your memory earlier on this subject..but it appears you dont have a memory, so there is nothing to refresh.

Re: # 118

tahmed sahib,

... please refresh my memory ..... is the droopy eyed one still hoping to be reinstated ? .... and if so, who all is fighting for him ..... are you in his corner? .... it seems the 'revolution' has moved on and left him stranded

Re: # 116 Thanks Mr H, Che, and PKTurk for forgiving me for my mental deliquencies and putting efforts to read my English specially with my british English must be hard for gawar American langgage users. Unfortunately English is not my forte even when i was young and feels I wasted many my youthful years could have improved English. Also Thanks mr. H being sympathetic me even after my intelluctual comradeship with my friend Masadi and my hopeless antialcohol Ramblings. I have special respect for you as you understand I am not recist just prefer fair colored. Why people are so opposed to White colored ?Only you have supporeted my discretion about this matter. I wanted to write some thing about( even my white cat looks better to me than other no nothing dark cats.) I will not utter anything as with Ghost Mr. Gandhi haunting making Havoc on western front with help of his spiritual deciples I may be called recist etc.I am very fancied by foren from my childhood and foren people and smart people there. eVEN PETROL PUMPING MAN ATTENDANT SPEAKS pHAD pHAD ENGLISH .Some times now I feel bad, this foren this is looseing all importance. If Jat son goes to USA it is ok but when Kumbhar's daughter also goes to usa means things are not so good. When I was young just some body Vilayat return was some body to watch.I always envy all you buggers there in your 20s you must have lots white friends is really something( I mean girl friends), we just can fathom how lucky you people are.
Wonder is in usa and canada any shots against disease attacking gentleman from Lahore and Culcutta. So much heat and fury and lot heat and no light at end of tunnel.
Good morning to everygody, I am leaving without malice towards anybody including mr. T. ( Actually we are polite always but from time of my friendship with Masadi he has kept "Khunus" in his mind), so all go in peace and be happy.
Ahmed Madani Sahib ( Karachiwallah)

#116 hamidm: I dont think you realize it, but you have written similar posts a number of times to me. And seem to have not read, or read and were unable to retain in memory, what I said in return. I fear your razor sharp mental agility is becoming somewhat blunted by age... :-(

When will the madman return from the ANgrayzi lunatic asylum and cure the lot that speaks the language of the horde? When?

Comment made by an Ahl-e-zabaN at an Iftar party recently:
"Aik to hum say itna baRa Punjab bardasht nahiN hota hay!"

Down with this 'civilised' kurta-pyjama-paandaan' superiority.

Down, down, down....

Re: # 114

tahmed mian,

.... by the way, what happened to the 'revolution of the civil society' - is it over ? .... are we there and having fun ? .... what happened to the droopy eyed cj? ... the other day, i heard his chief tabalchi and ugal-dan carrier, aithezaz ahsan, saying that the bar associations had quit the movement and that he and the cj were going on tour of southern punjab with ali ahmed kurd as the harmonium player ..... i am sure the cj's new ghungroo routine will be a big hit ....

as for M(ay 12)QM and its supporters - the less said the better!! They can only fool themselves with their propaganda.

vatanparast #106-8: great posts that live up to your nick.

the revolution of the civil society in Pakistan in 2007 had people from all ethnic groups in it - indeed, no one even bothered which "ethnic group" or which "religious sect" a lawyer or a journalist fighting in the streets for justice for every Pakistani belonged to.

#112 most pakistanis outside karachi have barely heard about the MQM, let alone biharis. That is why they dont register in national level politics, only in urban sindh...and on chowk.

in any case - it is stupid and unfair to despise any ethnic group as such. There are decent AND educated people in every community (religious, ethnic, whatever). one can and should, I think, distinguish between a given community of people and criminal groups who seek to play upon the frustrations or misconceptions of the losers to gain political power - as many rogue groups did under military dictators in Pakistan. Vatanprarast below points out to that in #106-8 below).