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Local Government System – Incompetence vs Competence

Ali Chishti June 25, 2009

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#17 Posted by saeedshiekh on July 6, 2009 2:07:09 am
Excellent article and Mustafa Kamal has to be praised. but there is a variance here. he is a good point of contact for MQM but everyone knows the true picture of thier leader. i guess if you were only talking about Mustafa Kamal then you would have recieved a bit more applause. MQM has done some horrifying events to Pakistan. would you not agree? like to hear your conducive comments on it pls
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#16 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on July 2, 2009 7:29:12 pm
Chishti Sahib,
Thank you for sharing an optimistic and morale-boosting perspective. I watched the Dunya special about Mustafa Kamal and I am quite impressed.

BTW, the biggest land mafia scam in Pakistan is the whole idea of Defense Housing schemes. Talk about conflicts of interest - Army gives out plots, Army runs government, Army diverts precious resources to DHAs whose prices skyrocket a Army people benefit.
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#15 Posted by malikrashid on July 2, 2009 2:51:17 pm

Besides MQM, the army is not behind in land grabbing. The area around national stadium has been turned into a general colony. The outside practise area of national stadium and all land adjacent to it has been sold by the army.
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#13 Posted by barristerakc on June 30, 2009 8:13:48 pm

It's all about Incompetence vs Competence - how to evaluate a certain political party? on false propaganda or by the development work?
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#12 Posted by RiazHaq on June 30, 2009 7:12:03 pm
Local government autonomy is at the roots of real democracy. A lot of issue that affect people on a daily basis are impacted far more by what the local govt does or does not do than what happens in a remote capital city.


Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
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#11 Posted by zafirzia on June 30, 2009 11:31:09 am
A lot of false information has been conveyed in this article by Ali Chishti..............facts have not been stated............This article by Ali Chishti has been aimed at portraying MQM as the most innocent party of Pakistan, which is absolutely wrong
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#10 Posted by CheGuevara on June 30, 2009 8:08:26 am
"More than 100 CNG Buses will be running in Karachi this month – paid by CDGK intead of provincial or federal government."

This is good, I hope it doesn't end up like the green bus scheme. how do they plan on on keeping the peace with the transporters unions?
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#9 Posted by barristerakc on June 30, 2009 5:31:54 am
Dost,
The good news is that recently the Karachi City Council has approved a budget of Rs.51.7 Bn ($650 million) for Karachi and it was a supported even by the Jamaat-e-Islami led Awam-Dost Group at City Council. If I could remember around Rs.11 bn alone would go to KWSB (Karachi Water and Sewerage Board) and around $0300-350 million would be spent on developmental schemes in 18 Towns of Karachi.
There is a Cardic Hospital Planned and close to completion in Shah Faisal Town where an Open Heart Surgery would cost Rs.45,000 only.

There is a plan to make another Heart Disease Hospital for Children in Institute for Heart Diseases at FB Area where surgery for patients are done for Rs.10,000 only.
CDGK also imported top of the range machines unavailable in this all region which could now operate patients even after an open heart surgery via laser. All this would cost a patient Rs.50,000 only.

There’s Memon Institute in Korangi which is the biggest Vocational Training Institute in Pakistan.
There’s are also 3 other hospitals planned in Karachi by CDGK.
More than 100 CNG Buses will be running in Karachi this month – paid by CDGK intead of provincial or federal government.
I would personally like to invite you to go around the various areas especially to Baldia Town, Korengi Town and rest of the neglected areas to see the extra-ordinary development done in Karachi and Hyderabad.
I only believe what I see rest ! logo ka kaam hai kehna :)
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#8 Posted by vanguard on June 30, 2009 3:50:41 am
Barrister Ali K Chisti Sahab,

True the local government system is a good system and it has worked well in Karachi and Hyderabad. However, you have conviniently glossed over Naimatullah Khan's contribution who actually showed that this system could work.

Cowasjee has written three columns in DAWN recently which shows what your MQM leadership is upto. You can easily find them under the title "I own Karachi I can sell it too "

What MQM is doind is building bridge on one hand and encroaching upon parks and public property on other hand and giving them to their workers on throw away prices. I am witness to such activities in North Nazimabad - all the parks have been encroached up where ppl actually started visiting after Naimutallah improved them...

Babar Ghouri, the notorious land mafia who owns the strip of Shadi Halls in North Nazimabad...the illegal Saima Bridge View that is being built just beside the Nazimabad bridge is owned by MQM supporters. All "Saima" developments contribute heavily to MQM coffers. The pizza hut that has been rented out again near the same place illegally.

MQM is the largest land mafia in Karachi and is leaving pathans behind....
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#7 Posted by Afat on June 30, 2009 2:43:38 am


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#6 Posted by IB on June 30, 2009 1:50:27 am
@akber,

I. More than 17,000 Extra Judicial Killing took place and the worst year was 1995 when more than 2800-3000 workers and sympathizers were killed by law enforcement authorities. HRCP, Amenity International declared 1995 as “the worst year for human rights”.
http://www.karachipage.com/fasih.html
http://www.karachipage.com/ne ws/Sep_99/custodial.html

II. Obviously, MQM is no angel but is better of the lot and instead of talking they had contributed most to their respect constituencies and that’s what it matters and nothing else.



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#5 Posted by akber on June 30, 2009 12:41:36 am
ali chishti,

either you don't live in Karachi or you are a top class liar and a hipocrate.

in 1997 mqm claimed there 5000 - 6000 party workers were extra judicaly killed in army operation in the period of 1992 - 1996, in 1999 they claim there 9000 party workers were killed for the same period, in 2002 during elections they claimed there 12000 party workers were killed for the same period from 1992-1996, in 2008 elections claims went to 14000 party workers extra judically killed and now in this article ali chishti claims it was 17000.

Hello sir could you please come up with a figure and stick to it.

So after the operation ended what did they do to seek justice for there slain party workers??

instead of fighting in the court of law, they receive 5 crores for compensation from the government for there slain party workers. And killed all police officers involved in operation from 1992 - 1996, yes you can check, all the inspectors involved in operation all are dead now, and none of them died a natural death.

you got some nerve to call anyone else facist, terrorist.

and how come you forgot to mention how many business, industries shifted from karachi to punjab from 1986 to 1992 due to Specific mqm terrorism and extortion, which actually resulted in a need for operation in 1992, and afterward due to situation created by them and the list can go on and on how they have kept terrorised karachi, even Human rights commision of Pakistan calls them a mafia. The candian supreme court declared them a terrorist outfit.

and not to forgot as any other facisit terrorist outfit they grown and prospered during military goverments.

Mqm is a cancer for karachi which is getting out of control, only solution to mqm problem is rule of law implemented in karachi so that this group of petty thieves turn into fasict mafia could be bring to book.
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#4 Posted by CheGuevara on June 29, 2009 1:50:28 pm
Their will never be any shortage of bribes.
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#3 Posted by IB on June 29, 2009 1:45:10 pm
@Che,
If Police would have come under Local Reps. then who would have given them bribes?

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#2 Posted by CheGuevara on June 29, 2009 1:29:59 pm
If Musharraf achieved anything during his tenure it was implementing the local bodies system, too bad about the police not being transferred under local government authorities thqat would have been a revolutionary step.
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Interact Index

    #17 saeedshiekh
    #16 Salim_Chauhan
    #15 malikrashid
    #14 ashish10
    #13 barristerakc
    #12 RiazHaq
    #11 zafirzia
    #10 CheGuevara
    #9 barristerakc
    #8 vanguard
    #7 Afat
    #6 IB
    #5 akber
    #4 CheGuevara
    #3 IB
    #2 CheGuevara
    #1 IB

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