Arshiya Khan July 29, 1999
#90 Posted by jazba99 on March 16, 2000 2:16:39 am
enlightening...arent all men scumbags....heheh
wish u`d find the ONE...but i guess the mind set of a liberated muslim ( read amoral ) these days is to search for the perfect which never will come.....
good luck
Allah haafiz
wish u`d find the ONE...but i guess the mind set of a liberated muslim ( read amoral ) these days is to search for the perfect which never will come.....
good luck
Allah haafiz
#89 Posted by ashee on December 12, 1999 6:19:01 pm
great to know there are other open minded Pakistani women out there. For years I have felt so alone. God knows how many Pakistani men I have scared off! Ashee
#88 Posted by abbas314159 on November 16, 1999 7:23:12 pm
Wery well written article. Chowk is indeed blessed with quality writers!!
Abbas.
Abbas.
#87 Posted by saadp on October 31, 1999 1:58:03 am
Quite moving, i think i will write about my failed ``arranged`` marriage to an ABCD, maybe you will like getting the other side perspective on rishtas.
#86 Posted by EZ on September 13, 1999 11:30:36 am
Assalamoalaykum Arshiya,
Nice piece of work ... very fluid, yet packing interesting observations. I`d like to know a bit more about you, may be tell you a bit about myself i.e. if you feel interested. My email is:
eraser28@excite.com
Do keep writing. You have a non-offending, pleasant style. I`d like to see more of that.
take care,
Ehtisham.
Nice piece of work ... very fluid, yet packing interesting observations. I`d like to know a bit more about you, may be tell you a bit about myself i.e. if you feel interested. My email is:
eraser28@excite.com
Do keep writing. You have a non-offending, pleasant style. I`d like to see more of that.
take care,
Ehtisham.
#85 Posted by kamran9999 on August 31, 1999 6:21:05 pm
Arshiya,
Thanks for the gesture. It meant a lot to me. :)
Keep writing.
-!Kamran!-
Thanks for the gesture. It meant a lot to me. :)
Keep writing.
-!Kamran!-
#84 Posted by Zahra on August 25, 1999 3:53:34 pm
Good Day, Mr. Baker!
See you on some other topic discussion.
Regards
See you on some other topic discussion.
Regards
#83 Posted by Studebaker on August 25, 1999 11:54:38 am
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#82 Posted by Zahra on August 24, 1999 7:21:20 pm
I think things are being taken far seriously than they should be. In light of my above statement, I will like to conclude the discussion on issues of Iqbal`s Shaheen(s), Murdae Momins, Wajoodae Zun and all the other deep thoughts. Though my inclinations to stick to the initial quote is still there:
#81 Posted by Studebaker on August 24, 1999 7:35:01 am
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#80 Posted by Zahra on August 23, 1999 7:39:10 pm
Mr. Baker or Bakery:
With due respects, I would like to thank you for your kind wishes.
I have Ayut-ul-Kursee and Surah Naas and Faluq on my finger tips. So hope that lessens your concerns for the dream vs nightmare myth.
Apparently there is no glass ceiling for folks with vision. When Iqbal could provide guidance to the Murdae Momin by his verses and they did not use them on time and appropriately then ``Sunfae Nazuk`` need to come forward and start acting on:
With due respects, I would like to thank you for your kind wishes.
I have Ayut-ul-Kursee and Surah Naas and Faluq on my finger tips. So hope that lessens your concerns for the dream vs nightmare myth.
Apparently there is no glass ceiling for folks with vision. When Iqbal could provide guidance to the Murdae Momin by his verses and they did not use them on time and appropriately then ``Sunfae Nazuk`` need to come forward and start acting on:
#79 Posted by Studebaker on August 23, 1999 7:09:02 am
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#78 Posted by Zahra on August 22, 1999 3:36:46 pm
Mr. Baker:
I am assuming you have very politely agreed with the forceful thoughts I have cared to jot down. So kind of you :-)!
I have not read any of your sermons(double meaning English word)anywhere, will do so based on the Faraghut (Easy Urdu Word).
Allah Baili(Easy Punjabi Word)
I am assuming you have very politely agreed with the forceful thoughts I have cared to jot down. So kind of you :-)!
I have not read any of your sermons(double meaning English word)anywhere, will do so based on the Faraghut (Easy Urdu Word).
Allah Baili(Easy Punjabi Word)
#77 Posted by Studebaker on August 22, 1999 12:01:24 am
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#76 Posted by Zahra on August 21, 1999 8:37:42 am
Dear Mr. Baker:
Hello! Not to prove you wrong and myself right, I will just politely say that my views are different from yours. I would have cared to convince when I was in my teens and would chalk out next ten years strategy. At that time, if I was given a jolt that wake up Dreams Never Come True. I would have resented a lot.
I have passed those ten years already and have achieved what I dreamt of so when I find people who will not add to my perception of life anything except their traditional views, I simply do not care to convince.
Men will remain men and women will remain women.
Women may climb the corporate ladder high enough but they will still remain women. I personally feel that just because a woman tries to climb a ladder she is peceived a threat. Well, if that competition is based on her intellect or work that is justified but it is perceived as gender competition. That is where misunderstandings begin.
Lastly, it has been my observation that folks who have marriages based on mental compatibility and same intellectual wavelength have higher chances of having harmony in life than the fools who marry because God has created women to reproduce.
Take Care
Note: I was assuming that you will get help from your better half on the words and their meanings. I thought you said somewhere that both of you complement each other where one is weak the other will provide the strength. Well,let me take a guess here probably you meant if a wife cannot carry a heavy laundry basket then the husband should carry it. She can put the clothes in the machine. Probably that was your example of complementing each other ???
Anyway, views are views!
Hello! Not to prove you wrong and myself right, I will just politely say that my views are different from yours. I would have cared to convince when I was in my teens and would chalk out next ten years strategy. At that time, if I was given a jolt that wake up Dreams Never Come True. I would have resented a lot.
I have passed those ten years already and have achieved what I dreamt of so when I find people who will not add to my perception of life anything except their traditional views, I simply do not care to convince.
Men will remain men and women will remain women.
Women may climb the corporate ladder high enough but they will still remain women. I personally feel that just because a woman tries to climb a ladder she is peceived a threat. Well, if that competition is based on her intellect or work that is justified but it is perceived as gender competition. That is where misunderstandings begin.
Lastly, it has been my observation that folks who have marriages based on mental compatibility and same intellectual wavelength have higher chances of having harmony in life than the fools who marry because God has created women to reproduce.
Take Care
Note: I was assuming that you will get help from your better half on the words and their meanings. I thought you said somewhere that both of you complement each other where one is weak the other will provide the strength. Well,let me take a guess here probably you meant if a wife cannot carry a heavy laundry basket then the husband should carry it. She can put the clothes in the machine. Probably that was your example of complementing each other ???
Anyway, views are views!
#75 Posted by Muntazir on August 20, 1999 7:51:04 pm
After reading Arshiya`s article I remember my
own article on ``Relationships`` which was written
to explain rather psychological reasoning for
forming a relationship. Lightly speaking, a relationship `evolves`.
It starts from interpersonnel attraction, grows into interactions, enriches with self-exposure and at maturity changes into a relationship. Most of the time we loop-back just from interaction stage and restart to look
forward for someone we feel attractive. And you are lucky enough if you find that opportunity as ``there is no decision-making if there is no choice``.
It is like finding the other half
of a dollar-bill out of many `other halves`
and one is even lucky if one finds enough of em.
Otherwise they try to complete it
with the closest match, which apparently completes
the piece of paper but was never part of it.
I agree with Arshiya that unfortunately some of us
are forced to bypass the initial process and
directly jump into starting a relationship
by `Rishta`..and then after they are exposed to
each other, they come to know how much they
are incompatible.
We all eventually learn something from this gamble.
I learned one thing deeply involved ``potential to change through learning``.
This change should be two-folded so that outcome is for both. If A changes for B or
B changes for A, I call it compromise, but if change is such that outcome is shared
by both, it is a relationship.
It requires flexibility to adapt, which requires honesty, not possible without motivation,
and to find sources of motivation requires creativity.
The principles of relationships could be good for study but after all, it is an art…
Choosing the right colors to paint your future is as much important as each
stroke of brush. An over-coat on a wrong stroke does not mean that it is not there underneath…!
Nadeem Zahid
own article on ``Relationships`` which was written
to explain rather psychological reasoning for
forming a relationship. Lightly speaking, a relationship `evolves`.
It starts from interpersonnel attraction, grows into interactions, enriches with self-exposure and at maturity changes into a relationship. Most of the time we loop-back just from interaction stage and restart to look
forward for someone we feel attractive. And you are lucky enough if you find that opportunity as ``there is no decision-making if there is no choice``.
It is like finding the other half
of a dollar-bill out of many `other halves`
and one is even lucky if one finds enough of em.
Otherwise they try to complete it
with the closest match, which apparently completes
the piece of paper but was never part of it.
I agree with Arshiya that unfortunately some of us
are forced to bypass the initial process and
directly jump into starting a relationship
by `Rishta`..and then after they are exposed to
each other, they come to know how much they
are incompatible.
We all eventually learn something from this gamble.
I learned one thing deeply involved ``potential to change through learning``.
This change should be two-folded so that outcome is for both. If A changes for B or
B changes for A, I call it compromise, but if change is such that outcome is shared
by both, it is a relationship.
It requires flexibility to adapt, which requires honesty, not possible without motivation,
and to find sources of motivation requires creativity.
The principles of relationships could be good for study but after all, it is an art…
Choosing the right colors to paint your future is as much important as each
stroke of brush. An over-coat on a wrong stroke does not mean that it is not there underneath…!
Nadeem Zahid
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