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#355 Posted by mohajir on December 27, 2001 1:57:46 pm
Connecting terrorism`s dots
Arnaud de Borchgrave
Dec. 27, 2001
Washington Times
In an attempt to avoid embarrassing Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, and to pre-empt any Indian campaign to extend the war against terrorism to cover terrorist training camps in Pakistan, the White House announced Dec. 20 it was blocking the assets of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LET) which it described as ``a Kashmiri terrorist organization that has conducted a number of operations against Indian troops and civilian targets in Kashmir since 1993.``
That was once over very lightly. If truth be known, the facts behind LET are identical to Osama bin Laden`s al Qaeda`s organization. The terrorists are interchangeable between both organizations. They were all trained in al Qaeda`s camps and some of bin Laden`s Afghan Arabs have already found refuge among LET`s ranks in Kashmir. The White House`s new formulation calls LET ``a stateless sponsor of terrorism.`` But LET is also Pakistan-based and Pakistan-sanctioned.
LET`s ranks consist of Pakistanis, Afghans, and Arabs led by Pakistani cadres. Pakistan`s Inter-Services Intelligence agency oversees LET`s terrorist operations. Headquartered at Muridke outside Lahore, LET holds annual conclaves that are attended by serving and retired officers of ISI and the regular army, political leaders, and retired scientists of Pakistan`s nuclear establishment. LET`s terrorists are ``freedom fighters`` dedicated to ``the liberation of Indian-occupied Kashmir.`` Its political cover is called Marka-ud-Dawa-wal-Irshad (MDI), a fiercely anti-U.S. pseudo-religious, extremist organization.
LET`s last big meeting was held in Muridke April 13-15 and was attended by retired Gen. Hameed Gul, a former head of ISI and currently ``strategic adviser`` to Pakistan`s extremist religious parties; Retired Gen. Javed Nasir, another former ISI director general; Abdul Qadir Khan, the father of Pakistan`s nuclear bomb; Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood, formerly with the Atomic Energy Commission and recently detained at the request of the U.S. for questioning about his meetings with Osama Bin Laden. The conference passed a resolution calling on its ``freedom fighters`` to capture Hindu temples, destroy the idols and hoist the flag of Islam on them.
ISI was tasked with ensuring that no journalists gained access to the meeting. But some did. The News reported on April 22 that LET ``operates six private military training camps in Pakistan and Kashmir where several thousand are given both military and religious education.`` The newspaper also reported that LET runs 2,200 recruiting offices across Pakistan and some two dozen ``launching camps along the Line of Control [LOC] in Kashmir,`` which makes it ``the biggest jihadi [holy warrior] network in Pakistan.``
No militant training center in Pakistan can operate without the consent of the army, now in power, and ISI, a state within a state whose chief reports only to Mr. Musharraf. Yet the government continues to be in a state of deep denial. Presidential spokesman Gen. Rashid Quereshi says, ``No group operating in Kashmir has any base in Pakistan.``
Mr. Musharraf is riding a terrorist tiger and is having trouble dismounting. Last May 18, Najam Sethi, the editor of ``Friday Times,`` an authoritative weekly journal, summed up the president`s dilemma: ``The Musharraf model seeks to covertly ally with the jihadi groups while overtly keeping the mainstream religious parties out of the power loop. This is to enhance and sustain its covert external agenda, while internally maintaining an overtly moderate anti-fundamentalist stance for the comfort of the international community whose economic support is critical to Pakistan`s financial viability.``
The terrorist attack against the Indian Parliament Dec. 13 was almost certainly the work of Jaish-e-Mohammed (Soldiers of the Prophet), another Pakistan-based terrorist organization. This writer found its slogans painted in towns and villages throughout the Pakistani tribal belt last week, to wit: ``Jaish-e-Mohammed and al Qaeda are Bubbling Blood Brothers`` and ``For Commando Training, Contact Jaish-e-Mohammed.`` The motive for the attack was most probably an attempt to disrupt the budding U.S.-Pakistani alliance and isolate Mr. Musharraf.
After ditching Taliban, it becomes increasingly harder for Mr. Musharraf to crack down on those who would Talibanize Pakistan. In fact, he released from detention the No. 1 religious extremist firebrand, Fazrul Rehman.
Mr. Musharraf is now caught between a rock and four hard places — Afghanistan where the anti-Pakistani, pro-Indian Northern Alliance holds the key government positions in the new coalition under Hamid Karzai; a hostile India on the edge of retaliatory action; a disloyal ISI; and a belligerent extremist clergy.
Despite the appointment of a Musharraf loyalist as the new head of ISI when U.S. bombing started last October, the powerful agency has not been responding to the president`s pro-American policies. One regional ISI general even went so far as to rattle tribal chiefs by telling them Pakistan would be next in America`s crosshairs after the defeat of Taliban. The secret organization continues to undermine him at every turn. The country`s principal political leaders are fearful of ISI. They draw the initials with their fingers in the air when the subject comes out lest they be heard by ubiquitous bugs. And they say nothing short of a top-to-bottom reform of ISI, followed by accountability to a yet-to-be-created national security council of civilian and military leaders, will bring the agency back to its proper place in the body politic.
The Taliban infrastructure in Pakistan emerged unscathed from Taliban`s defeat in Afghanistan. While ISI is officially cooperating with the U.S. in hunting down Taliban`s deposed leaders, senior Taliban officials are now resting comfortably in their second homes in Quetta and Peshawar, the two frontier towns where they had parked their families when the bombing started. One has even given an interview to a British newspaper. Another has given a ``religious lecture`` at the madrassa — the ``University for the Education of Truth`` — where he graduated in the town of Khattak. ISI is doubtless aware of these activities. But is Mr. Musharraf?
Belatedly, over the Christmas weekend, Mr. Musharraf decided to freeze the accounts of LET and Umma Tamee-e-Nau (UTN), the group the U.S. believes passed nuclear weapons data to Osama bin Laden. The LET chief then resigned. It is to be hoped that a thorough housecleaning of ISI is next on Mr. Musharraf`s must-do list as he returns from a weeklong state visit to China.
Arnaud de Borchgrave is editor at large of The Washington Times and of United Press International
http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20011227-79790204.htm
Arnaud de Borchgrave
Dec. 27, 2001
Washington Times
In an attempt to avoid embarrassing Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, and to pre-empt any Indian campaign to extend the war against terrorism to cover terrorist training camps in Pakistan, the White House announced Dec. 20 it was blocking the assets of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LET) which it described as ``a Kashmiri terrorist organization that has conducted a number of operations against Indian troops and civilian targets in Kashmir since 1993.``
That was once over very lightly. If truth be known, the facts behind LET are identical to Osama bin Laden`s al Qaeda`s organization. The terrorists are interchangeable between both organizations. They were all trained in al Qaeda`s camps and some of bin Laden`s Afghan Arabs have already found refuge among LET`s ranks in Kashmir. The White House`s new formulation calls LET ``a stateless sponsor of terrorism.`` But LET is also Pakistan-based and Pakistan-sanctioned.
LET`s ranks consist of Pakistanis, Afghans, and Arabs led by Pakistani cadres. Pakistan`s Inter-Services Intelligence agency oversees LET`s terrorist operations. Headquartered at Muridke outside Lahore, LET holds annual conclaves that are attended by serving and retired officers of ISI and the regular army, political leaders, and retired scientists of Pakistan`s nuclear establishment. LET`s terrorists are ``freedom fighters`` dedicated to ``the liberation of Indian-occupied Kashmir.`` Its political cover is called Marka-ud-Dawa-wal-Irshad (MDI), a fiercely anti-U.S. pseudo-religious, extremist organization.
LET`s last big meeting was held in Muridke April 13-15 and was attended by retired Gen. Hameed Gul, a former head of ISI and currently ``strategic adviser`` to Pakistan`s extremist religious parties; Retired Gen. Javed Nasir, another former ISI director general; Abdul Qadir Khan, the father of Pakistan`s nuclear bomb; Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood, formerly with the Atomic Energy Commission and recently detained at the request of the U.S. for questioning about his meetings with Osama Bin Laden. The conference passed a resolution calling on its ``freedom fighters`` to capture Hindu temples, destroy the idols and hoist the flag of Islam on them.
ISI was tasked with ensuring that no journalists gained access to the meeting. But some did. The News reported on April 22 that LET ``operates six private military training camps in Pakistan and Kashmir where several thousand are given both military and religious education.`` The newspaper also reported that LET runs 2,200 recruiting offices across Pakistan and some two dozen ``launching camps along the Line of Control [LOC] in Kashmir,`` which makes it ``the biggest jihadi [holy warrior] network in Pakistan.``
No militant training center in Pakistan can operate without the consent of the army, now in power, and ISI, a state within a state whose chief reports only to Mr. Musharraf. Yet the government continues to be in a state of deep denial. Presidential spokesman Gen. Rashid Quereshi says, ``No group operating in Kashmir has any base in Pakistan.``
Mr. Musharraf is riding a terrorist tiger and is having trouble dismounting. Last May 18, Najam Sethi, the editor of ``Friday Times,`` an authoritative weekly journal, summed up the president`s dilemma: ``The Musharraf model seeks to covertly ally with the jihadi groups while overtly keeping the mainstream religious parties out of the power loop. This is to enhance and sustain its covert external agenda, while internally maintaining an overtly moderate anti-fundamentalist stance for the comfort of the international community whose economic support is critical to Pakistan`s financial viability.``
The terrorist attack against the Indian Parliament Dec. 13 was almost certainly the work of Jaish-e-Mohammed (Soldiers of the Prophet), another Pakistan-based terrorist organization. This writer found its slogans painted in towns and villages throughout the Pakistani tribal belt last week, to wit: ``Jaish-e-Mohammed and al Qaeda are Bubbling Blood Brothers`` and ``For Commando Training, Contact Jaish-e-Mohammed.`` The motive for the attack was most probably an attempt to disrupt the budding U.S.-Pakistani alliance and isolate Mr. Musharraf.
After ditching Taliban, it becomes increasingly harder for Mr. Musharraf to crack down on those who would Talibanize Pakistan. In fact, he released from detention the No. 1 religious extremist firebrand, Fazrul Rehman.
Mr. Musharraf is now caught between a rock and four hard places — Afghanistan where the anti-Pakistani, pro-Indian Northern Alliance holds the key government positions in the new coalition under Hamid Karzai; a hostile India on the edge of retaliatory action; a disloyal ISI; and a belligerent extremist clergy.
Despite the appointment of a Musharraf loyalist as the new head of ISI when U.S. bombing started last October, the powerful agency has not been responding to the president`s pro-American policies. One regional ISI general even went so far as to rattle tribal chiefs by telling them Pakistan would be next in America`s crosshairs after the defeat of Taliban. The secret organization continues to undermine him at every turn. The country`s principal political leaders are fearful of ISI. They draw the initials with their fingers in the air when the subject comes out lest they be heard by ubiquitous bugs. And they say nothing short of a top-to-bottom reform of ISI, followed by accountability to a yet-to-be-created national security council of civilian and military leaders, will bring the agency back to its proper place in the body politic.
The Taliban infrastructure in Pakistan emerged unscathed from Taliban`s defeat in Afghanistan. While ISI is officially cooperating with the U.S. in hunting down Taliban`s deposed leaders, senior Taliban officials are now resting comfortably in their second homes in Quetta and Peshawar, the two frontier towns where they had parked their families when the bombing started. One has even given an interview to a British newspaper. Another has given a ``religious lecture`` at the madrassa — the ``University for the Education of Truth`` — where he graduated in the town of Khattak. ISI is doubtless aware of these activities. But is Mr. Musharraf?
Belatedly, over the Christmas weekend, Mr. Musharraf decided to freeze the accounts of LET and Umma Tamee-e-Nau (UTN), the group the U.S. believes passed nuclear weapons data to Osama bin Laden. The LET chief then resigned. It is to be hoped that a thorough housecleaning of ISI is next on Mr. Musharraf`s must-do list as he returns from a weeklong state visit to China.
Arnaud de Borchgrave is editor at large of The Washington Times and of United Press International
http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20011227-79790204.htm
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#354 Posted by Trillium on November 16, 2001 12:20:59 pm
Stuka - I`ve usually enjoyed the democratic tone your posts. You`ll get over it, I`m sure.
``Um, did he post a picture somewhere?? How do you guys know this guy is a white guy? Oh right, no one could even IMAGINE the absolute temerity of a black guy to criticize us like this??``
Farzana turns Chowk into a cheap-shot shooting gallery and then whines like hell when it`s time for her own medicine. Her selective little gee-hads are like others around the world: when the attacked start shooting back, it`s ``atrocity`` and ``genocide``. At least she can`t be accused of using smart-bombs.
#353 Posted by jay on November 10, 2001 12:37:59 pm
from toi of today
ISI is treacherous, Bhutto warns West
YDNEY: Former prime minister Benazir Bhutto has cautioned the West against relying on Pakistan`s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in the anti-terrorism war, saying it is a ``treacherous`` organisation.
``When I was the prime minister of Pakistan, I found ISI to be a state within a state,`` Bhutto tells Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) TV`s Foreign Correspondent programme that hit out at ISI.
``During my tenure as prime minister, we had instances of ISI officials approaching parliamentarians and asking them to defect from my party and also asking them to vote against me,`` says Bhutto, who is chief of the Pakistan People`s Party (PPP).
Bhutto, who lives in self-imposed exile in London and Dubai, is stated to be in Washington to warn the U.S. about the ``real intentions`` of Pakistan`s premier state intelligence organization.
Pakistan has emerged as a leading ally in the U.S.-led war on terrorism in Afghanistan to flush out terrorist suspect Osama bin Laden.
Her assertion is supported by the findings of the Australian current affairs programme that quoted Pakistan Army sources as saying when President Pervez Musharraf asked ISI bosses to persuade the Taliban to surrender bin Laden, they acted to the contrary.
The ISI officials are believed to have rushed to advise the Taliban on ways to strengthen their defences against the then inevitable American attacks and ``tough out.``
ISI is treacherous, Bhutto warns West
YDNEY: Former prime minister Benazir Bhutto has cautioned the West against relying on Pakistan`s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in the anti-terrorism war, saying it is a ``treacherous`` organisation.
``When I was the prime minister of Pakistan, I found ISI to be a state within a state,`` Bhutto tells Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) TV`s Foreign Correspondent programme that hit out at ISI.
``During my tenure as prime minister, we had instances of ISI officials approaching parliamentarians and asking them to defect from my party and also asking them to vote against me,`` says Bhutto, who is chief of the Pakistan People`s Party (PPP).
Bhutto, who lives in self-imposed exile in London and Dubai, is stated to be in Washington to warn the U.S. about the ``real intentions`` of Pakistan`s premier state intelligence organization.
Pakistan has emerged as a leading ally in the U.S.-led war on terrorism in Afghanistan to flush out terrorist suspect Osama bin Laden.
Her assertion is supported by the findings of the Australian current affairs programme that quoted Pakistan Army sources as saying when President Pervez Musharraf asked ISI bosses to persuade the Taliban to surrender bin Laden, they acted to the contrary.
The ISI officials are believed to have rushed to advise the Taliban on ways to strengthen their defences against the then inevitable American attacks and ``tough out.``
#352 Posted by scout on November 9, 2001 2:48:47 pm
Suxena #346, ``stop throwing hissy fits, or if you must, stop stalking me from board to board. shoo off.``
whoa! talk about delusions of grandeur. meray hee alfaz meray khilaaf?
nice try beti, better luck next time.
ylh #350,
ok :)
whoa! talk about delusions of grandeur. meray hee alfaz meray khilaaf?
nice try beti, better luck next time.
ylh #350,
ok :)
#351 Posted by soysauce on November 9, 2001 2:48:47 pm
#351 ylh
``That was hilarious.``
Really?
How about these:
(1) Why does a paki kemalist wish there were more hindus and christians?
For target practice.
(2)What is a famous paki kemalist saying?
A hindu a day keeps the mullah at bay.
Funnier, no?
``That was hilarious.``
Really?
How about these:
(1) Why does a paki kemalist wish there were more hindus and christians?
For target practice.
(2)What is a famous paki kemalist saying?
A hindu a day keeps the mullah at bay.
Funnier, no?
#350 Posted by Lajwanti on November 9, 2001 10:56:08 am
Pervez sought `hawk` Advani`s aid to meet Atal in New York?
MANINI CHATTERJEE
NEW DELHI, November 09, 01:33
So keen was President Pervez Musharraf for a meeting with Prime Minister Vajpayee in New York that he even sought the help of Union Home Minister L.K. Advani, to persuade Vajpayee on the issue.
The Pakistan establishment, which has openly accused Advani of being the ``hidden hand`` behind the failure of the Agra Summit, turned to the same ``hawk`` to effect a reconciliation, highly placed sources revealed to TheNewspaperToday.
A few days before Vajpayee left for his three-nation voyage, the Pakistan High Commissioner to India, Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, met home minister Advani and asked him to put in a word in favour of a Vajpayee-Musharraf meeting, sources said. The home minister is learnt to have said that he would convey Pakistan’s request but held out little hope that a meeting would be possible.
The Pakistan High Commissioner’s request to Advani, done on the behest of his leader and government, stems from General Musharraf’s belief that Advani is the real hardliner in the government who has stymied efforts of ``dove`` Vajpayee to mend ties with Pakistan.
At the Agra Summit in July this year, the Pakistan side blamed Advani for changing the final draft declaration and including the ``cross-border terrorism`` clause. Later, addressing a press conference in Islamabad, General Musharraf made the same charge and made no secret of the fact that the so-called ``hidden hand`` belonged to India’s Home Minister.
The Pakistanis, sources said, believe that only if Advani gives the red signal for talks can a high-level dialogue between the two countries resume. The Pakistanis are not entirely incorrect in this assessment because it was at Advani’s initiative that General Musharraf was invited to India last May.
The sudden decision to invite Musharraf for talks (announced alongside the decision to withdraw cease-fire in Jammu & Kashmir on May 23) was taken at a private luncheon meeting attended by Prime Minister Vajpayee, Home Minister Advani, and External Affairs Minister Jaswant Singh.
At that meeting, it was Advani who first made the suggestion of inviting Musharraf to Delhi and this, after some discussion, was accepted by the Prime Minister, sources said.
The Pakistanis were well aware of this sequence of events and therefore turned to Advani this time round. However, following the failure of the Agra Summit and particularly the remarks made by General Musharraf at and after Agra, Prime Minister Vajpayee himself has turned hawkish on the question of India-Pakistan dialogue.
He, like Advani, is now firm that talks should not take place till Pakistan gives up its policy of proxy war, sources added.
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#349 Posted by ylh on November 8, 2001 4:09:08 pm
Ali1
That was hilarious.
But really I dont own Urbanus. It is part of Urbanus group, I am just their account executive for the institute and their web development company Macroactive.
-Yasser
That was hilarious.
But really I dont own Urbanus. It is part of Urbanus group, I am just their account executive for the institute and their web development company Macroactive.
-Yasser
#348 Posted by Gowardhan on November 8, 2001 2:51:52 pm
70000 + 2 killed in Kashmir
http://www.dawn.com/2001/11/08/welcome.htm
Grenade kills woman in Kashmir, wounds child: SRINAGAR, Nov 08:
A woman was killed and five others, including a one-year-old child, were wounded today when Mujahideen threw a grenade in a street in Srinagar, police said. No group has claimed responsibility for the attack. (Reuters) (Posted @ 12:45 PST)
http://www.dawn.com/2001/11/08/welcome.htm
Grenade kills woman in Kashmir, wounds child: SRINAGAR, Nov 08:
A woman was killed and five others, including a one-year-old child, were wounded today when Mujahideen threw a grenade in a street in Srinagar, police said. No group has claimed responsibility for the attack. (Reuters) (Posted @ 12:45 PST)
#347 Posted by ylh on November 8, 2001 2:51:52 pm
Scout
cut me some slack sistah ... Just tryin to make an honest buck.
cut me some slack sistah ... Just tryin to make an honest buck.
#346 Posted by ali1 on November 8, 2001 2:51:52 pm
Reply # 335 ylh
[``URBANUS TECHNICAL INSTITUTE``]
What kind of a name is this? URB-ANUS INSTITUTE? haniji? Are insulting your Arab brethren? Change it to ATALANUS or BAPUANUS or RAMANUS. ok?
[``URBANUS TECHNICAL INSTITUTE``]
What kind of a name is this? URB-ANUS INSTITUTE? haniji? Are insulting your Arab brethren? Change it to ATALANUS or BAPUANUS or RAMANUS. ok?
#345 Posted by Bijli on November 8, 2001 2:51:52 pm
Vietnamese & thais due to poverty & lack of resourceses have PORK in almost all there dietry recipies.The Thai,the Cambodian The Vietnamese,Filipino,Burmese ,
#344 Posted by rsaxena on November 8, 2001 2:51:52 pm
Re: scout #343
stop throwing hissy fits, or if you must, stop stalking me from board to board. shoo off.
stop throwing hissy fits, or if you must, stop stalking me from board to board. shoo off.
#343 Posted by saminashah on November 8, 2001 10:40:35 am
chowkies,
So i just got here...what happened? (sitcom laughter) Does this mean that ylh and Sadna have reached a detente?
A party at the Edison Dunkin Donuts? Is that the one by the mom and pop Thai restaurant? Btw, that Thai place serves the best chutputta kanna I have eaten. If you guys haven`t been, do go.
The last time I went to this Thai place on Raritan Ave, my brother and mother were with me. We went in to the restaurant to survey the usual scene; lots of Desis, Asians and Americans eating slowly and very quietly. Americans mainly asking for water. We have a delish and spicy meal. My brother goes up to pay the bill. The owner, an elderly nani type is working the cash register. She asks my brother, ``How was the food?``
He responds,``It was wonderful. Really spicy.``
She says,`` Ooohh you Indians. You say `Make it spicy!` We make it spicy and then you cry...you cry...``
I`ll be back next month.
regards
So i just got here...what happened? (sitcom laughter) Does this mean that ylh and Sadna have reached a detente?
A party at the Edison Dunkin Donuts? Is that the one by the mom and pop Thai restaurant? Btw, that Thai place serves the best chutputta kanna I have eaten. If you guys haven`t been, do go.
The last time I went to this Thai place on Raritan Ave, my brother and mother were with me. We went in to the restaurant to survey the usual scene; lots of Desis, Asians and Americans eating slowly and very quietly. Americans mainly asking for water. We have a delish and spicy meal. My brother goes up to pay the bill. The owner, an elderly nani type is working the cash register. She asks my brother, ``How was the food?``
He responds,``It was wonderful. Really spicy.``
She says,`` Ooohh you Indians. You say `Make it spicy!` We make it spicy and then you cry...you cry...``
I`ll be back next month.
regards
#342 Posted by scout on November 8, 2001 1:48:51 am
ylh #335,
was that personal business advertisement necessary on Chowk? there are classified ads in newspapers for that.
tum kab baray hogay?
was that personal business advertisement necessary on Chowk? there are classified ads in newspapers for that.
tum kab baray hogay?
#341 Posted by scout on November 7, 2001 8:01:29 pm
Suxena #339,
Listen numbskull, you`re the one who started this Bellvue bakwaas. Why don`t you give yourself a slap in the face before bugging me.
God you`re an annoying moron.
Listen numbskull, you`re the one who started this Bellvue bakwaas. Why don`t you give yourself a slap in the face before bugging me.
God you`re an annoying moron.
#340 Posted by rsaxena on November 7, 2001 11:53:48 am
Re: Stuka
``You are one evil genius;) Is B_M coming back to the east coast anytime soon?``
I don`t know what you are insinuating, but I`m just a bystander here who happens to keep in touch with b_m. ahem.
``You are one evil genius;) Is B_M coming back to the east coast anytime soon?``
I don`t know what you are insinuating, but I`m just a bystander here who happens to keep in touch with b_m. ahem.
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