Creation of Hindu ’madrasas’

Ref khansahib #124

[hindus are torchoring our brothers and raping our sisters. I will go with my followers under darkness of night and liberate them. Then hindus will be our slaves for our pleasureful puropses. Those who resist will be killed, according to our laws in Islam.]

So, if the Hindus do it, it is rape but when you Islamist thugs do it, it is ``slavery for our pleasureful purposes``?

[The day for kayamat is very near!!!]

Kayamat, now that wouldn`t mean `buggery`, would it?

Dont worry Rashid Talib.
I am going to India to set up my madrassa. I will teach my brother muslims to uprise against the hindu brahmins who are killing them everyday. hindus are torchoring our brothers and raping our sisters. I will go with my followers under darkness of night and liberate them. Then hindus will be our slaves for our pleasureful puropses. Those who resist will be killed, according to our laws in Islam.

The day for kayamat is very near!!!

Ref AAmir #120

[How phony & fragile the world is that gets threatened by 11 yr old girl with harmless innocuous little piece of cloth .And thse guy need Reagans Star Wars Technology to intercept nuclear loaded ICBM???????
.....
Singaporean girl defies school ban on Muslim headscarves]

Hey 12-Head, didn`t you make the claim on another board that the reason the ``Freedom Fighters`` in Kashmir want women to wear the burqa is that so they can also dress up in a burqa and sneak weapons around? So, if the Singapore government decides that no hijab-shijab will be allowed because the next step might be the burqa and who knows what is under the burqa, what is your complaint?

Also, you were quick to rush with that explanation for the burqa when acid was thrown on the faces of Kashmiri women for not wearing the burqa but you kept your vile mouth shut when three baby girls were murdered by your ``Freedom Fighters`` -- ironically, the baby girls were Muslimas. What crime did THEY commit? Not wearing hand grenades as necklaces?

Have you NO shame?

Did anyone else catch the delicious irony of a man named Talib (student) commenting on ``Hindu madrassahs``?

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To Chowk Staff:

I am sure you all know how long URL links scews up the formatting of new design chowk pages. For example #102 by arjun_m has a link which does this.

My suggestion is to process such links so that (say) after every 60th character the character following it is replaced by its ASCII hex code preceded by ``%``. I am posting the link from #102 with such modifications and as you can see it is not screwing up the formatting:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=t%68estar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035776004920&ca%6Cl_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154

From the Washington Times


Dangerous democracy
Thomas Sowell
CREATORS SYNDICATE

Published December 31, 2002

One of the cornerstones of the war on terrorism is the premise that promoting democracy is a long-run goal for creating a better world, one which will not breed so many terrorists. But a new book, ``World on Fire`` by Professor Amy Chua of the Yale law school, argues persuasively that democracy can be positively dangerous for some non-Western countries, especially when combined with a free market economy.
While democracy and free markets have been an extremely productive combination for many European and European offshoot societies, such as the United States and Australia, Professor Chua sees these two things as being like an explosive mixture in certain non-Western nations. More specifically, this combination is seen as dangerous in those countries where some ethnic minority is dominant in a free market economy, while the majority population dominates politics through their votes.
If this thesis sounds strange, try to make a list of countries that are non-Western and which enjoy the freedoms we speak of as democracy, as well as having a free market in which some minority group is dominant.
Merely making a list of countries that are both non-Western and democratic is enough of a challenge, and adding a free market shrinks that already short list. Now add the key proviso that some ethnic minority dominates the economy.
The Chinese minority is dominant in the economies of Indonesia and Malaysia, the Indian minority is dominant in Fiji, the Lebanese have been dominant in West Africa, and other groups in other places around the world. But these have seldom been democratic countries.
Perhaps Malaysia might be considered a democracy, since it has an elected government, but the glaring absence of free speech on racial issues in Malaysia keeps it from being a free society, which is what most people mean by democracy, even though that is not the original meaning of the word. It is doubtful whether Malaysia could survive if racial demagogues were free to stir up the Malay majority against the Chinese minority that is still a dominant force in the economy.
The absence of free speech on racial matters in Malaysia means there can be no careers like those of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton in the United States. Maybe the U.S. is secure enough to be able to afford to let irresponsible rabble-rousers run loose — or maybe someday we will discover we are not — but Malaysia certainly is not.
Sri Lanka started coming apart within a decade of receiving its independence as a free, democratic nation in 1948. The Tamil minority was not as dominant in its economy as the Chinese minority in Malaysia and other Southeast Asian countries, but still Tamils were over-represented at the top in business, in the professions, and in education. That was enough to allow the Sinhalese majority to be mobilized politically against them by ambitious politicians.
Even though there had never been a single race riot between the Sinhalese majority and the Tamil minority during the first half of the 20th century, there were many in the second half, punctuated by unspeakable atrocities. Eventually Sri Lanka descended into outright civil war, in which this small island nation has suffered more deaths than the United States suffered during the Vietnam War.
Similarly, according to Professor Chua, an authority on ethnic conflicts around the world, there were no major outbreaks of violence between the Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda in the first half of the 20th century. Then majority rule brought ethnic polarization and horrifying massacres.
What about counter-examples of free, democratic, free-market, non-Western societies where an ethnic minority is blatantly more successful in the economy than the majority population, but where the people live at peace with one another? You supply those examples. I can`t think of any.
Professor Chua`s thesis is especially important in an era when American foreign policy sometimes seems to be pressing our allies and others to become democracies with free markets — whether or not each country`s social conditions or cultural traditions provide the prerequisites for letting that particular combination be a blessing rather than a curse.

Thomas Sowell is a nationally syndicated columnist.

Ref Romair #38

[My (future) kids will certainly have a much higher standard of living now, than had I been living in Multan or Nowshera making pennies as a Captain..... ]

But I thought you were a Field Marshal!

Ref ferozk #47

[Have you in India punished the people, who were responsible for killing the thousands of Sikhs after the assassination of Indra Ghandi?]

No. In fact, one guy (Sajjan Somebody) just got acquitted in the third such case against him in suburban New Delhi. He is an elected member of the Parliament from the Congress Party, the party of the secularists, the party that decries Narendra Modi, the BJP, and the Gujarat riots.

And you expect Indians to vote against Narendra Modi and vote the Congress into power in Gujarat!

By the way, it seems that Narendra Modi paraded a man named Razak Kasim from Bombay who had e-mailed him a death threat in a recent public meeting. He publicly pardoned Kasim and even helped him get his job back. Of course we all know from our English-language press that Narendra Modi is a Muslim-hater.

You actually believe the crap you read in the press?

rsridhar #110

The majority-minority equation you are expounding is replicable in all situations, not just religion or community. The replication of this principle is the unfortunate path Pakistanis have taken which has ended up with laws granting death sentence for `offending` a majority. India is full of minorities of different complexion. Each of us is a minority by ourselves. If I happen to think differently from the majority on some subject, for example, I donot see why I should to be asked to `please` you or the majority who disagrees with me, in order to be allowed to live safely.

Gujaratis who voted for BJP are a minority, Gujaratis who voted for BJP on the majority/minority principle which you are expounding are an even smaller minority, and MUCH MORE so is the VHP and so is the BJP.

If anything, you are asking that the VHP minority be appeased, a tiny minority which considers itself totally unaccountable not only to the state but also to the majority of Hindus it claims to represent, and here you are telling the majority of nonVHP Indians to keep it happy in order to remain secure? rsridhar, thats a very slippery slope, do watch your step.

US bombs Madressah near border

BAGRAM, Dec 31: A US warplane bombed an abandoned religious school in the Pakistani territory after a gunbattle between the US and Pakistani troops on the border with Afghanistan, Pakistan officials said on Tuesday.

The US military said that one of its soldiers was wounded in Afghanistan on Sunday in an exchange of gunfire with a Pakistani border guard. A Pakistani official said two border guards were also injured.

The wounded American was part of a unit conducting a mission with the Pakistani forces along the Afghan border when a disagreement appeared to break out, according to a statement released by the US military at their Afghan headquarters at Bagram air base.

``A Pakistani border scout opened fire with a G3 rifle after the US patrol asked him to return to the Pakistan side of the border,`` the statement said. ``That individual and several others retreated to a nearby structure,`` it added. ``Close air support was requested and a 500-lb bomb was dropped on the target area.``

Mohammad Khurshied, a local official in the South Waziristan tribal area, later told Reuters that a seminary in Angor Adda had been hit by the US warplanes

////This shows the true nature of the madrasa, the place to where the pak soldiers retreat after shooting the `protectors` of civil society.

rsridhar
A lot of what this writer says is relevant here ( his Israel remark is totally off, though):
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1021230/asp/opinion/story_1516870.asp

re:#108 by sadna
I agree with you. But the public opinion determines the votes. Votes determine policies of the party in power. If BJP had 2/3rd majority, it would be singing a different tune today. It would not be in a coalition and would not be bothered about a ``common minimum program``. We would have seen its true colors then.
It is important that majority community not be antagonised. Of course laws, constitution etc are guarantees to freedom of minorities but have we not seen these being tampered with in Gujarat? Best security for muslims would be to build bridges with secular hindus.
Closer home in US, we are seeing what happens once some minorities lose the trust of majority community. Of course muslims in US who are being targeted by INS have recourse to judicial redressal and what not but it is a difficult battle ahead.
Sridhar