Free Javed Burki

Re: # 50

read posting #13 #36

mirjee2003, our Govt needs to arrest people such as Mr.Burki simply so that they can show to the public that they are leaving no one out in their war against corruption. However, if you analyse Mr.Burki`s history till today, he has been a man of morals and dignity. He is merely a substitute for those who the govt does not want to put in prison. aakhir kissi ko tou daal na hai...thats the way the law has worked for years and years. warna abhi tuk corruption kyoon hai??? and khalidawan, at least look up the correct spellings of Mr. Burki! naam ka pata naheen hai aur bolna bar char keh hai!

I believe almost none of the commentators including me know about the facts so what is the fun in continuing this debate based on emotions, including Khalid Awan Zebunnisa Burki fights.If someone has facts he should list them.I believe Daal Mein kuchh Kala Hai magar who Kya hai?

Ref:-sway
wah g wah. sway i recommend u to please request/suggest the NAB not to arrest any corrupt personalities those belong to reputed families of Pakistan and please note that the chairman of NAB is also a respectable government servant and he served the nation for about thirty six years,and he orderd for the arrest of Jawaid Burki on merits of the case. as for as my profile is concerned i am enjoying life without any alligation/imprisonment enjoying home food without jail manual. believe me Mr Burki enjoying the retire life at a place where civilized people donot remain.
khalid awan

Well, a thumbs up for you Mr. Osman. Your article gives hope to people who are still holding on to their morals and integrity in this country. On the other hand, turning to ``sac`` and ``khalidawan`` i couldn`t help but be amused and at the same time sad to see such nonsense being put down. I`m sure you are filled with jealousy for Mr. Burki, who not only belongs to one of the most well-reputed families of this country but has also served this country tremendously on his own merit. Further, i am confident in saying that you with your low and inconspicous profile will be the first to support any sort of action against any sucessful individual! So please collect your worthless and meaningless ``opinions`` (not facts) and retire to a place where civilzed people do not remain.

Attention:-zakkk & Others respected on chowk.
nothing personal with Mr.Burki.I saw this army truck in cantonment,and later on saw the same in excersise area.After that this YASOOB truck vanished.To investigate the matter I went to Karachi,and collected all the information regarding this fauji truck,and and i presented all the infomations right in the CHOWK.If the working of NAB is going down ,then they will be reponsible.khalid awan ka kia qasoor hay.
Regards,
khalid awan

Mr Awan you seem to have a personal axe to grind against Mr Barki. Irrespective, NAB`s credibility is going down fast. I am sure if Mr Burki had a political constituency of use he would be released irrespective of his acts of commission or omission. The only factor that decides the fate of NAB arrestes is there relevance in ensuring ``positive results``

ATTENTION ALL ON CHOWK:-
PLEASE NOTE THAT zaibunnisa AN ADVOCATE OF JAWAID BURKI IS NOW TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM COURT OF CHOWK.I KNEW IT BECAUSE EVERY BODY KNOWS THAT SUCH SUCH HOTA HAY AND JHOOT JHOOT HOTA HAY,MILK MILK HOTA HAY,AND PANI PANI HOTA HAY.UB MAYRAY LEEA KIA HUKAM HAY????????????????????.
WITH BEST REGARDS,
khalid AWAN

attention Zaibunnina:-
HOSLA,HOSLA MADAM,HOSLA.MY TRU COMMENTS ARE MY KICK BACK AND KICK OUTS,AND BELIVE ME I AM TOUT OF PAKISTAN AS WELL.
WHY DONT YOU SEE YOUR NAME WITH BURKI CAST ON YOUR OWN SUBMITTED REPLY DATED 6TH FEB.
THANKS.
khalid awan

Re: mr. awan
either youre intellectually challenged or you get a kick out of all this....
i didnt SIGN the last post....do you get that????
or the post before that...or the one before that!!
i SIGNED the first post, hence the NAME>....

as for the ``facts``.....ill face them....didnt need to your advice for that.

no more posts from me.
good luck touting NAB`s achievements.

Madam Zaibunnisa,
PLEASE FACE THE FACTS.
THANKS,
khalidAwan

Respecred Zaibunnisa Gee,
and the Respecred Judges of CHOWK,
You are all requested to see the comments of Madam zaibunnisa dated 6th Feb,2003 .at 11.17 am ,in that she wroteZAIBUNNISA BURKI at the end of#4 reply.If am wrong please hate me,and if I am right,please do appreciate me.
khalid Awan

re mr. awan

my SIGNATURE ID is zebunnisa

thats why theres no burki attached to it....
i didnt sign my name on the last post.......hence, no burki.


im sorry i didnt get that little dig abt zebunnisa street.....etc etc.

you AGAIN repeated the same charges, mr. awan
please do enlighten me further by EVERYTHING written by NAB against mr. burki

attention:- zakkk (Reference IRFAN HUSSAIN writen in defence of JAWAID BURKI.
Just few question for Irfan Hussain & Zakkk.
1:-why Jawaid Burki accepted the request of Army chief to start the production of YASOOB truck,if the project was not good?
2:-
In call of justice Mr.OSMAN RIAZ said that Jawaid Burki was working on
indigenous truck & Irfan Hussain is saying that project was not good,because
impoted trucks are available from open market.
I would like to question Mr.Irfan Hussain that how much kick backs are involve in purchase of trucks from Japanees 4 wheeler mafia.I am asking
as Mr.Irfan was the master of purchases in govt of Pakistan.
3:-Why Jawaid Burki shiffted the YASOOB truck project from TML to new site at port Qasim area,and build up new site with heavey duty paint shop
of a very high cost & shifting expenses,as the project was not good.
4:-If the project was bad then why Jawaid Burki hired heavy paid engineers/consultants for the project.
5.If the Yasoob truck project was bad ,then why ministery of industries approved the project.(Please note Pacco works under this ministery).
6.why EDB (engineering development board approved the deletion programme of this Yassob truck?(EDB works under ministety of industries)The Yasoob truck was in production under the production ministery of same industries ministery.
7.If the Yasoob truck project was too bad then why Jawaid Burki & his associates accepted the orders from army for about 3000 trucks.?
Its enough questions for the time being with the request of an answer to satisfy the judges of CHOWK.
REGARDS
khalid Awan

Irfan Hussain has written in defence of Javed Burki

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm

The high cost of accountability


By Irfan Husain

When Javed Burki, the retired federal secretary, was arrested a couple of months ago, there was much speculation over the reasons. According to press reports, the reason given by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) was that in Burki`s capacity as chairman of the Pakistan Automobile Corporation (PACO) over fifteen years ago, he had mismanaged an order to build Yasub trucks for the Pakistan army, thereby causing a loss of millions to the exchequer.

Apparently, instead of using PACO facilities, he joined some other public and private sector companies in setting up a new firm to handle the project. While there is a passing allegation that he had benefited personally from this arrangement, the thrust of the charges seems to focus on Burki`s decision to develop and manufacture the trucks in a newly created facility. Apparently this delayed the project and caused cost-overruns that made the new trucks too expensive to be viable.

Now let me make it clear that while I have met Burki a few times, he is by no means a friend. However, those who have worked with him swear that he is honest to an `irritating degree`. He may be arrogant and abrasive, but in my thirty years in government service, I have never heard anybody lay the charge of corruption at his door. Those who have served with him say that he takes decisions quickly and delegates work without hesitation.

The whole incident raises a number of questions that the government needs to answer. Firstly, what was the need to manufacture our own trucks when these are available around the world? There is no way we could have manufactured rugged, heavy-duty trucks more cheaply than those being produced by established American, European and Japanese firms. If the priority was to make the army less dependent on imports, why was the Yasub project based on imported gear-boxes and other key components?

Clearly, there was little economic justification for the scheme. Years later, the Auditor-General of Pakistan did a performance review of the abandoned project and quantified the huge losses that the exchequer (and thus the taxpayer) had sustained through this hare-brained project, and it seems that a scapegoat had to be found. Obviously, it would have been unthinkable to pin the blame on the generals who had the brainwave to start with.

I spoke to a respected financial expert who was a member of the PACO board when the decision to set up an entity outside the government was taken. According to him, the reasons Burki presented were weighty and cogent and the board had no hesitation in approving his proposal to set up a new company. For one, the PACO units at the time did not have the capacity or the facilities to build the Yasub, and given the long delays built into government procurement procedures, Burki as the chief executive felt he would make quicker progress through a private firm that was created for the exclusive purpose of manufacturing this truck.

It is entirely possible that another civil servant would have played it safe and taken another decision. But the point is that Burki was responsible for implementing a decision taken by the government, right or wrong, and he took a certain view of how it should be carried out. Over fifteen years later, he has been jailed for something he did in good faith. What kind of signal is the government sending out to civil servants?

As it is, decision-making in our bureaucracy is not renowned for its speed. By throwing an officer into jail for decisions taken years ago on the basis of the facts then available, the government is ensuring that nobody will decide on anything at all, pass the buck and refuse to commit their signature to any proposal for fear of future accountability.

I am not for a moment suggesting that past cases of corruption be closed. However, here we have a decision that cost the exchequer a large amount because it was connected to an unviable project based a poor concept. In my years in government, I must have authorized the sale and purchase of goods, services and financial instruments worth billions of rupees for various organizations I was serving at the time.

My decisions were based on the information I had at the time as well as on my belief that the rates I was closing the transactions at were the best available. If somebody were to come along years later and say that if I had waited a day before buying or selling such and such commodity or share or bond, I could have saved or made the government such and such an amount, there is little I could say in my defence. But the reality is that under these circumstances, decision-making would grind to a halt.

Let us extend this argument to the non-financial, policy area. If civil servants can be held accountable for alleged errors of judgment years afterwards, how about looking for authors of misguided policies that not only cost the exchequer billions, but cost lives as well as friends and influence? How about our disastrous Afghanistan policy for example?

For years we backed the Taliban at a huge cost, but then had to make a U-turn. Now we are stuck with the spillover effect with jihadis running wild all over the country. We are also branded as exporters of terrorism, thanks to our Kashmir policy, and nobody is willing to visit our shores, let alone investing in Pakistan. So who`s responsible and accountable for this mess?

How far back are we going to go in this witch-hunt? In a country as mismanaged and poorly governed as Pakistan, there is no shortage of victims. With the advantage of hindsight and audit reports, it is easy to sit in judgment over somebody who took a decision in good faith years ago. However, this kind of retroactive second-guessing carries a cost.

An entrepreneur friend of mine based in London sets up projects in different parts of the world and last year he was discussing a proposal with the relevant ministry in Islamabad. After the elections, he made contact with the new minister and was shocked when faced with the demand to hand over details of any bribes he had paid so that this information could be passed on to NAB. Not having paid anybody anything, my friend backed off and has dropped the project, which came with foreign financing. He has since given up the idea of doing any business in Pakistan.

By all means hold civil servants accountable, but not at the cost of new investments and economic development.

Respected Zaibunnisa,
The judges sitting arround the chowk would like to know that why you are not using the word(BURKI) after your name since 3rd Feb,2003.Can you satisfy the readers.
Regards,
khalid Awan