The Most Ineffective Ban Ever
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#84 Posted by Pardaisi on November 26, 2003 12:40:59 pm
#83 by saminshah
you said ``I think like Americans....`` exactly my point Samin Shah...Indian movies are representing American Culture in the movies, now its just a matter for you to accpting the fact.
Handful of Indians with success is not a respresentation of entire Indian population.
Thanks for the well wishes ;-)
you said ``I think like Americans....`` exactly my point Samin Shah...Indian movies are representing American Culture in the movies, now its just a matter for you to accpting the fact.
Handful of Indians with success is not a respresentation of entire Indian population.
Thanks for the well wishes ;-)
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#83 Posted by saminshah on November 26, 2003 4:00:29 am
#82 by pardaisi on November 25, 2003 1:17pm PT
#80 by saminshah
”Sorry to hear you dont want to address reality. By blaming me for not understading or acting like ostrich will not solve your problems.
good luck with your India and its problems and wish me luck for Pakistan.”
No need to be sorry. I told you ground realities. you think like American who don’t know anything abt India and just think that is country of sneck charmer and gurus.
You don’t know ground realities, which I know. There is 180 degree deference in 1990’s India and 2003’s India.
Wish you best luck.
#80 by saminshah
”Sorry to hear you dont want to address reality. By blaming me for not understading or acting like ostrich will not solve your problems.
good luck with your India and its problems and wish me luck for Pakistan.”
No need to be sorry. I told you ground realities. you think like American who don’t know anything abt India and just think that is country of sneck charmer and gurus.
You don’t know ground realities, which I know. There is 180 degree deference in 1990’s India and 2003’s India.
Wish you best luck.
#82 Posted by Pardaisi on November 25, 2003 1:17:18 pm
#80 by saminshah
Sorry to hear you dont want to address reality. By blaming me for not understading or acting like ostrich will not solve your problems.
good luck with your India and its problems and wish me luck for Pakistan.
Sorry to hear you dont want to address reality. By blaming me for not understading or acting like ostrich will not solve your problems.
good luck with your India and its problems and wish me luck for Pakistan.
#81 Posted by kaurasach on November 25, 2003 8:15:04 am
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#80 Posted by saminshah on November 25, 2003 5:48:49 am
To : #69 by pardaisi on November 24, 2003 9:41am PT
“no, thanks. I rather have my own identity”
I really feel sorry for your sorry stat of your identity which can lost by just seeing girl in short skirts. Thanks to my liberal education I don’t think your way.
“Where in India women live a single life ``successfully``?”
lot of women. Just visit India. This is not land of pure.
Where in India there are bars that look almost like American bars ?
Lot of. visit any metro of India.
“Were in India it is ok to have sex without wed lock”
go to outlookindia.com and search archive. you can find opinion poll on Indian woman and pre marriage sex.
“Where in India (this is funny) can you find ``Culturally`` sophisticated people ? “
lot of man now a days. I again say this is not land of pure.
“Where in Indian you can hang a stuff monkey in your home ?
Where in India can you wear revealing clothes and get away with not guys looking at you ?
Where in India a women can go on a run down neighborhood store and asks for Condom”
I think u should read my post no #57 again before give me reply. I stat that again here.
From post #57
“film industry is represent country’s mirror image not sunglass image. so your right hand you find in mirror is left hand but you believe this your image. now you said abt fighting bhabhis or so on. Man movies maker mad movie for commercial point of view so they have to mix some masala same way terminator or matrix don’t happen in day to day lives in America but after see that we get idea how Americans live or wear or speak or which festivals they enjoy.
”
I think you can’t differentiate between real image and mirror image.
“I can go on and on but REMEMBER ``Kawa Chala Hans Ki Chaal …”
man we can at least try it. one day we will succeed. Better to try and do something then waiting for salladin.
“admit it or not India is destined to get lost CULTURALLY... India`s culture is no longer represented in main stream movies. Indians Generally don’t”
Don’t worry Indian civilization is too big for it. It was swallowed thousand of culture in it.
Same will happen to this culture also.
“no, thanks. I rather have my own identity”
I really feel sorry for your sorry stat of your identity which can lost by just seeing girl in short skirts. Thanks to my liberal education I don’t think your way.
“Where in India women live a single life ``successfully``?”
lot of women. Just visit India. This is not land of pure.
Where in India there are bars that look almost like American bars ?
Lot of. visit any metro of India.
“Were in India it is ok to have sex without wed lock”
go to outlookindia.com and search archive. you can find opinion poll on Indian woman and pre marriage sex.
“Where in India (this is funny) can you find ``Culturally`` sophisticated people ? “
lot of man now a days. I again say this is not land of pure.
“Where in Indian you can hang a stuff monkey in your home ?
Where in India can you wear revealing clothes and get away with not guys looking at you ?
Where in India a women can go on a run down neighborhood store and asks for Condom”
I think u should read my post no #57 again before give me reply. I stat that again here.
From post #57
“film industry is represent country’s mirror image not sunglass image. so your right hand you find in mirror is left hand but you believe this your image. now you said abt fighting bhabhis or so on. Man movies maker mad movie for commercial point of view so they have to mix some masala same way terminator or matrix don’t happen in day to day lives in America but after see that we get idea how Americans live or wear or speak or which festivals they enjoy.
”
I think you can’t differentiate between real image and mirror image.
“I can go on and on but REMEMBER ``Kawa Chala Hans Ki Chaal …”
man we can at least try it. one day we will succeed. Better to try and do something then waiting for salladin.
“admit it or not India is destined to get lost CULTURALLY... India`s culture is no longer represented in main stream movies. Indians Generally don’t”
Don’t worry Indian civilization is too big for it. It was swallowed thousand of culture in it.
Same will happen to this culture also.
#79 Posted by fountainheader on November 25, 2003 5:48:48 am
For all who keep saying ``Movies are not culture``, I have included a disclaimer at the beginning of the article
Now when I talk of the Indian ``culture``, I am using the Indian ``entertainment products``, i.e. Indian movies, soap operas and music albums as the tool of culture, even though some may disagree.
This disclaimer conveys the premise on which I am basing my argument. If you disagree with the premise, don`t even bother reading the argument.
# 60 ali
I have already said that I understand that the ban was more of a protectionist move to help the pakistani film industry. However I am not sure whether the point I made is irrelevant either. here on chowk too people have said time and again that ``indian movies and soaps are trashy, they show affairs, skimpily dressed women. good they are banned!!``. Why ban something unless you are afraid that people will like it and start imitating it?
Here is the real reason: India is an enemy country which is occupying Pakistani territory. Why should Pakistan send money to Indian film industry? Simple isn`t it?
Granted. Very simple. I am saying that by doing so, Pakistanis will earn more as well. The way that China and Taiwan do business even when they are enemies. Why does China help Taiwan make money? Simple, because China makes more money too as a result of the trade. Read my article again.
One might be fooled into thinking that because of this ban, the 150 million dollars that would have gone to India stay in Pakistan thanks to Sadaf. However that is not so. By legitimising Indian movies, Pakistan would only make the pie bigger. So the piece of the big pie that Pakistanis get will be much bigger than the tiny pie the pirates currently devour. Imagine how great it would be if Pakistanis could have legitimate access to Indian movies. This would mean that more cinema halls and multiplexes could be opened in Pakistan. This would generate additional employment as well as revenue. There would be legitimate video shops, sans the Sadaf monopoly and the Pakistani government could earn big bucks through taxes.
# 68 yagacho
I agree, we Indians are making the very same mistakes, banning as well as IPR violation. The ban on V-day, the ban on beauty pageants in UP, the ban on satanic Verses. What is your point? I think you are indulging in the fallacy of ``tu coque``.
honey, islam is a religion and not a film industry that it will be threatened by some B-grade movie industry.
Darling, my point exactly!!!!! Why ban basant celebrations then? Why ban satanic Verses, which is, I am sure you feel, a b-grade trashy novel.
Last thing any muslim needs is a lecture on his/her religion from a cow/monkey/snake worshipping gentleman. so keep your opinions to yourself, nobody gives a rats ass to them.
Firstly, I am an atheist, and worshipping a cow, monkey, snake, or some entity whose existence is pure conjecture, are all equally pointless in my view. And if you want people to keep their views to themselves, perhaps a forum like chowk is not the best site for you.
Now when I talk of the Indian ``culture``, I am using the Indian ``entertainment products``, i.e. Indian movies, soap operas and music albums as the tool of culture, even though some may disagree.
This disclaimer conveys the premise on which I am basing my argument. If you disagree with the premise, don`t even bother reading the argument.
# 60 ali
I have already said that I understand that the ban was more of a protectionist move to help the pakistani film industry. However I am not sure whether the point I made is irrelevant either. here on chowk too people have said time and again that ``indian movies and soaps are trashy, they show affairs, skimpily dressed women. good they are banned!!``. Why ban something unless you are afraid that people will like it and start imitating it?
Here is the real reason: India is an enemy country which is occupying Pakistani territory. Why should Pakistan send money to Indian film industry? Simple isn`t it?
Granted. Very simple. I am saying that by doing so, Pakistanis will earn more as well. The way that China and Taiwan do business even when they are enemies. Why does China help Taiwan make money? Simple, because China makes more money too as a result of the trade. Read my article again.
One might be fooled into thinking that because of this ban, the 150 million dollars that would have gone to India stay in Pakistan thanks to Sadaf. However that is not so. By legitimising Indian movies, Pakistan would only make the pie bigger. So the piece of the big pie that Pakistanis get will be much bigger than the tiny pie the pirates currently devour. Imagine how great it would be if Pakistanis could have legitimate access to Indian movies. This would mean that more cinema halls and multiplexes could be opened in Pakistan. This would generate additional employment as well as revenue. There would be legitimate video shops, sans the Sadaf monopoly and the Pakistani government could earn big bucks through taxes.
# 68 yagacho
I agree, we Indians are making the very same mistakes, banning as well as IPR violation. The ban on V-day, the ban on beauty pageants in UP, the ban on satanic Verses. What is your point? I think you are indulging in the fallacy of ``tu coque``.
honey, islam is a religion and not a film industry that it will be threatened by some B-grade movie industry.
Darling, my point exactly!!!!! Why ban basant celebrations then? Why ban satanic Verses, which is, I am sure you feel, a b-grade trashy novel.
Last thing any muslim needs is a lecture on his/her religion from a cow/monkey/snake worshipping gentleman. so keep your opinions to yourself, nobody gives a rats ass to them.
Firstly, I am an atheist, and worshipping a cow, monkey, snake, or some entity whose existence is pure conjecture, are all equally pointless in my view. And if you want people to keep their views to themselves, perhaps a forum like chowk is not the best site for you.
#78 Posted by fountainheader on November 25, 2003 5:48:48 am
Please understand, that I am saying movies are simply tools of culture, not culture themselves. At the same time, here are some of your questions that beg answering
Where in India women live a single life ``successfully``?
A lot of cities, especially in the West, East and South where the roads are not unsafe for a woman after dark. There are thousands of single working women in Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore, Hyderabad and even Calcutta.
Where in India there are bars that look almost like American bars ?
All the cities I mentioned above, plus Delhi
Where in Indian you can hang a stuff monkey in your home ?
Ehhhhhh???
Where in India can you wear revealing clothes and get away with not guys looking at you ?
No one can do that anywhere in the world. Guys will always look at you. But yes, in India women can wear revealing clothes in certain cities and in certain social scenarios.
Where in India (this is funny) can you find ``Culturally`` sophisticated people ?
What is your definition of ``culturally sophisticated``? If it means knowledge of art, music, literature, then Calcutta, Mumbai, Pune, Chennai and even Delhi.
Where in India a women can go on a run down neighborhood store and asks for Condom ?
Many cities. And a woman SHOULD be able to do that. If that is lack of culture, then so be it.
are these kind of things indicates progress ?
No, but when did I say it has anything to do with progres?
Were in India it is ok to have sex without wed lock ?
How many Bollywood movies have shown that it is OK to have sex without wedlock? Name five. In Bollywood, most female leads are shown to be virgins and sati savitris, the way they are expected to be in most Indian families. the few movies which may show this are from parallel cinema and represent a proportionately small but numerically significant chunk of the so called ``high class`` society where it is acceptable. There was an issue of India Today some months back which had a survey about the sexuality of Indian women. Very enlightening.
And yes, indiatimes didn`t send you a reply so they sell illegal stuff? I have bought CDs from them and they are all legitimate Sony VCDs. Unless Sony started piracy.....
Tell me if any movies are available on Indiatimes before they are officially released on DVD. If so, i will agree that they indulge in piracy. But once a filmmaker released a movie on VHF and DVD, it means they are releasing movies in forms other than through theatre. They don`t sell VCDs in USA any more, because the American market has moved on to DVDs. The day Indian market matures to DVDs ONLy, people will dtop selling VCDs too.
By the way, indiatimes sells DVDs AND VCDs of every Hollywood movie. Are you telling me they sell legit DVDs but illegit VCDs?
Where in India women live a single life ``successfully``?
A lot of cities, especially in the West, East and South where the roads are not unsafe for a woman after dark. There are thousands of single working women in Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore, Hyderabad and even Calcutta.
Where in India there are bars that look almost like American bars ?
All the cities I mentioned above, plus Delhi
Where in Indian you can hang a stuff monkey in your home ?
Ehhhhhh???
Where in India can you wear revealing clothes and get away with not guys looking at you ?
No one can do that anywhere in the world. Guys will always look at you. But yes, in India women can wear revealing clothes in certain cities and in certain social scenarios.
Where in India (this is funny) can you find ``Culturally`` sophisticated people ?
What is your definition of ``culturally sophisticated``? If it means knowledge of art, music, literature, then Calcutta, Mumbai, Pune, Chennai and even Delhi.
Where in India a women can go on a run down neighborhood store and asks for Condom ?
Many cities. And a woman SHOULD be able to do that. If that is lack of culture, then so be it.
are these kind of things indicates progress ?
No, but when did I say it has anything to do with progres?
Were in India it is ok to have sex without wed lock ?
How many Bollywood movies have shown that it is OK to have sex without wedlock? Name five. In Bollywood, most female leads are shown to be virgins and sati savitris, the way they are expected to be in most Indian families. the few movies which may show this are from parallel cinema and represent a proportionately small but numerically significant chunk of the so called ``high class`` society where it is acceptable. There was an issue of India Today some months back which had a survey about the sexuality of Indian women. Very enlightening.
And yes, indiatimes didn`t send you a reply so they sell illegal stuff? I have bought CDs from them and they are all legitimate Sony VCDs. Unless Sony started piracy.....
Tell me if any movies are available on Indiatimes before they are officially released on DVD. If so, i will agree that they indulge in piracy. But once a filmmaker released a movie on VHF and DVD, it means they are releasing movies in forms other than through theatre. They don`t sell VCDs in USA any more, because the American market has moved on to DVDs. The day Indian market matures to DVDs ONLy, people will dtop selling VCDs too.
By the way, indiatimes sells DVDs AND VCDs of every Hollywood movie. Are you telling me they sell legit DVDs but illegit VCDs?
#77 Posted by fountainheader on November 25, 2003 5:48:48 am
And by the way, pardaisi, indiatimes has been the media partner for release of a lot of Hollywood blockbusters, like Spiderman. You think Hollywood guys would tie up with pirates?
#76 Posted by plats8 on November 24, 2003 10:17:05 pm
rsridhar #74,
Since there is no monolithic thing as an Indian culture, present-day Bollywood
does indeed reflect some fraction of urban Indian culture. It also does provide
some sort of escapist fantasy to a very very large number of Indians (including
myself), and I wouldn`t be so quick to dismiss it as trash. Some of us may choose
to not watch Bergman on a regular basis for entertainment.
There exist a comparable amount of regional trash in India as well, an odd good
film notwithstanding.
Pardaisi #73,
To each his own. Lest you forget, you have a choice not to watch Rajnikanth.
Since there is no monolithic thing as an Indian culture, present-day Bollywood
does indeed reflect some fraction of urban Indian culture. It also does provide
some sort of escapist fantasy to a very very large number of Indians (including
myself), and I wouldn`t be so quick to dismiss it as trash. Some of us may choose
to not watch Bergman on a regular basis for entertainment.
There exist a comparable amount of regional trash in India as well, an odd good
film notwithstanding.
Pardaisi #73,
To each his own. Lest you forget, you have a choice not to watch Rajnikanth.
#75 Posted by Radhika on November 24, 2003 5:03:10 pm
in case u didn`t notice...there was sarcasm pouring from all sides in my comment.
Anyhoo U write
``What he portrays on the screen is disgusting.`` and ``How can ``Rajni`` live with himself, people do not have self respect these days? ``
If u were making the kind of money that he does...I bet u would sound a lil diff.
Rajni does what his directors ask him to..by doing that he makes millions of ppl happy and hence the producer is happy at the end of the day...everybody is kush-kush!!
Itz All About The Money Honey! It is really as simple as that Pardaisi...really. don`t over-complicate things.
The point being...I probably like mindless movies such as Rajni`s or Austin Powers or Jackass on MTV! I don`t quite understand what u meant by ``It just goes to prove what kind of people watch his movies... like him, like you Rad!.`` What kind r u talkin abt? who r u to judge what is good what is not..what is art what is not...what is COOL to watch and what ain`t.
Anyhoo U write
``What he portrays on the screen is disgusting.`` and ``How can ``Rajni`` live with himself, people do not have self respect these days? ``
If u were making the kind of money that he does...I bet u would sound a lil diff.
Rajni does what his directors ask him to..by doing that he makes millions of ppl happy and hence the producer is happy at the end of the day...everybody is kush-kush!!
Itz All About The Money Honey! It is really as simple as that Pardaisi...really. don`t over-complicate things.
The point being...I probably like mindless movies such as Rajni`s or Austin Powers or Jackass on MTV! I don`t quite understand what u meant by ``It just goes to prove what kind of people watch his movies... like him, like you Rad!.`` What kind r u talkin abt? who r u to judge what is good what is not..what is art what is not...what is COOL to watch and what ain`t.
#74 Posted by rsridhar on November 24, 2003 4:59:54 pm
re:#69 by pardaisi
India is not lost culturally, dude. Simply put, Bollywood is not India and does not represent Indian culture. Bollywood is pathetic.
Just finished seeing a good Tamil movie called ``Anbe vaa`` with Kamalahaasan and Madhavan. Some superb acting by former. Got the movie mainly for my mom whose grasp of English is limited and who, like me, thinks Bollywood is trash.
Sridhar
India is not lost culturally, dude. Simply put, Bollywood is not India and does not represent Indian culture. Bollywood is pathetic.
Just finished seeing a good Tamil movie called ``Anbe vaa`` with Kamalahaasan and Madhavan. Some superb acting by former. Got the movie mainly for my mom whose grasp of English is limited and who, like me, thinks Bollywood is trash.
Sridhar
#73 Posted by Pardaisi on November 24, 2003 2:37:52 pm
#72 by Radhika,
U Wrote:
Pardaisi
naw....r u serious??
u mean to say you don`t put your fingers in ur mouth and whistle really loud when Rajni comes up with awesome dialogue like ``Apun ka naam hai HIRA, Apun ne sabko Chiraa`` or wear his sunglases and lights his cig with ISHTYLE??
I am dissapointed. !!
Yes, I am serious.
I don`t wet my fingers in my mouth...I use ...if you know what I mean to wet them (thats how ``Apun likes to Chira`` things).
How can ``Rajni`` live with himself, people do not have self respect these days?
What he portrays on the screen is disgusting. It just goes to prove what kind of people watch his movies... like him, like you Rad!.
Now I am begining to understand it is not for me or for most people it is for someone like you....I see.
I have a sense of humor but come on give me break when it comes to Rajni ?
Happy Chowking!
U Wrote:
Pardaisi
naw....r u serious??
u mean to say you don`t put your fingers in ur mouth and whistle really loud when Rajni comes up with awesome dialogue like ``Apun ka naam hai HIRA, Apun ne sabko Chiraa`` or wear his sunglases and lights his cig with ISHTYLE??
I am dissapointed. !!
Yes, I am serious.
I don`t wet my fingers in my mouth...I use ...if you know what I mean to wet them (thats how ``Apun likes to Chira`` things).
How can ``Rajni`` live with himself, people do not have self respect these days?
What he portrays on the screen is disgusting. It just goes to prove what kind of people watch his movies... like him, like you Rad!.
Now I am begining to understand it is not for me or for most people it is for someone like you....I see.
I have a sense of humor but come on give me break when it comes to Rajni ?
Happy Chowking!
#72 Posted by Radhika on November 24, 2003 12:06:37 pm
Pardaisi
naw....r u serious??
u mean to say you don`t put your fingers in ur mouth and whistle really loud when Rajni comes up with awesome dialogue like ``Apun ka naam hai HIRA, Apun ne sabko Chiraa`` or wear his sunglases and lights his cig with ISHTYLE??
I am dissapointed. !!
naw....r u serious??
u mean to say you don`t put your fingers in ur mouth and whistle really loud when Rajni comes up with awesome dialogue like ``Apun ka naam hai HIRA, Apun ne sabko Chiraa`` or wear his sunglases and lights his cig with ISHTYLE??
I am dissapointed. !!
#71 Posted by plats8 on November 24, 2003 10:19:13 am
yagacho #68,
``Last thing any muslim needs is a lecture on his/her religion from a cow/monkey/snake worshipping gentleman. so keep your opinions to yourself, nobody gives a rats ass to
them.``
Clearly, you consider your own opinion to be important enough to share them in this
public space. By the way, I agree with you that Islam (or any religion) is not a B-grade
movie industry - they are all just primitive forms of philosophy.
``Last thing any muslim needs is a lecture on his/her religion from a cow/monkey/snake worshipping gentleman. so keep your opinions to yourself, nobody gives a rats ass to
them.``
Clearly, you consider your own opinion to be important enough to share them in this
public space. By the way, I agree with you that Islam (or any religion) is not a B-grade
movie industry - they are all just primitive forms of philosophy.
#70 Posted by Pardaisi on November 24, 2003 9:41:19 am
#46 by Radhika
this is scary, Rajni Kanth brings smile to your face......yikes!
#50 by fountainheader
I never said issue here is who pirates....
Movies sold by Indiatimes are legal? are you kidding me ? maybe thats why they did not bother to answer me emails when asked if they were legal copies. Give me a break.
#57 by saminshah
I don`t suggest ban Indian movies, I am merely expressing what I see.....
quoting ``Visit collage of Bombay of ahmedabad you find thousand of salman or amir or ritik and girls with short skirts``
no, thanks. I rather have my own identity
quoting ``man this is not land of pure or Pakistan ````
Pakistan is not a land of pure, it was just a marketing slogan.
I will give examples of what little I have seen in the last 15 years from bollywood.
Where in India women live a single life ``successfully``?
Where in India there are bars that look almost like American bars ?
Where in Indian you can hang a stuff monkey in your home ?
Where in India can you wear revealing clothes and get away with not guys looking at you ?
Where in India (this is funny) can you find ``Culturally`` sophisticated people ?
Where in India a women can go on a run down neighborhood store and asks for Condom ? are these kind of things indicates progress ?
Were in India it is ok to have sex without wed lock ?
I can go on and on but REMEMBER ``Kawa Chala Hans Ki Chaal Aur Aapni Chaal Bhi Bhool Gaya`` admit it or not India is destined to get lost CULTURALLY... India`s culture is no longer represented in main stream movies. Indians Generally dont live in slums but go to Switzerland when they feel like singning, do they?
Indians dont go to every landmark in the world and shake booty when they are happy and want to shak up!
Open your eyes and try to understand my point. Indian movies are far from reality.
this is scary, Rajni Kanth brings smile to your face......yikes!
#50 by fountainheader
I never said issue here is who pirates....
Movies sold by Indiatimes are legal? are you kidding me ? maybe thats why they did not bother to answer me emails when asked if they were legal copies. Give me a break.
#57 by saminshah
I don`t suggest ban Indian movies, I am merely expressing what I see.....
quoting ``Visit collage of Bombay of ahmedabad you find thousand of salman or amir or ritik and girls with short skirts``
no, thanks. I rather have my own identity
quoting ``man this is not land of pure or Pakistan ````
Pakistan is not a land of pure, it was just a marketing slogan.
I will give examples of what little I have seen in the last 15 years from bollywood.
Where in India women live a single life ``successfully``?
Where in India there are bars that look almost like American bars ?
Where in Indian you can hang a stuff monkey in your home ?
Where in India can you wear revealing clothes and get away with not guys looking at you ?
Where in India (this is funny) can you find ``Culturally`` sophisticated people ?
Where in India a women can go on a run down neighborhood store and asks for Condom ? are these kind of things indicates progress ?
Were in India it is ok to have sex without wed lock ?
I can go on and on but REMEMBER ``Kawa Chala Hans Ki Chaal Aur Aapni Chaal Bhi Bhool Gaya`` admit it or not India is destined to get lost CULTURALLY... India`s culture is no longer represented in main stream movies. Indians Generally dont live in slums but go to Switzerland when they feel like singning, do they?
Indians dont go to every landmark in the world and shake booty when they are happy and want to shak up!
Open your eyes and try to understand my point. Indian movies are far from reality.
#69 Posted by Pardaisi on November 24, 2003 9:41:19 am
#56 by jay.
I don`t feel like interacting with you, but what the heck if I throw a bone at you it wont hurt.
I will not say it is good to see your hate filled post on Chowk so I`ll say what I really want to, I am disappointed what are you waiting for to pull that long awaited trigger?
Listen believe what ever the heck you want to believe...Indian Hegemony ? are you saying India bully Pakistan ??
I don`t feel like interacting with you, but what the heck if I throw a bone at you it wont hurt.
I will not say it is good to see your hate filled post on Chowk so I`ll say what I really want to, I am disappointed what are you waiting for to pull that long awaited trigger?
Listen believe what ever the heck you want to believe...Indian Hegemony ? are you saying India bully Pakistan ??
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