Defending the indefensible?

Well done dear Omar! No doubt these mad-rissas are the breeding ground for hatred, bigotry and violence. I give here a sample of what they are taught, a hadees which shows how one should deal with his loundi if she disobeys him. Strange enough, this is perhaps the main basis for the dreaded Ziai order of punishment for tauheene Rasalat:
Sunnan Abudawud
Book 38, Number 4348:
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:
A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.























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SOmething wrong with MAdressah`s? Hain, yeh kya keh reha hain??? Qureishi sahib, yeh kya hua?

JUst for background, this Qureishi clown used to give us long lectures on ``just cause`` in murder of indians in Jammu&Kashmir. He used to explain to us why it was correct to replace ``extremist`` by ``freedom fighter`` in Dawn news reports. His most famous headline is: ``Freedom Fighters Kill 7 in Wedding Party``. Truly a just cause!!

But now your military dictator has been attacked by the same freedom fighters !! Arre, but you are now calling them extremists. Tauba ! Tauba ! What kind of language is this? Are you not ashamed? Remember, as long as the cause is just, no one can distinguish between freedom fighters and extremism...

May freedom reign in Pakistan, just as it does in Jammu&Kashmir...

70:Panjabi-zulu

Now that is AS-IS funny..

echoboom

You are funny.

assholeboom

further...

I mean you are funny in the way that degenerates and copromaniacs are funny...

This is what Pakistan needs.

Chursee Parachaa and other westoxicated ones. It is quite understandable why western and pagan `values` are so valued by your kind.

It is also interesting to note that the faminists (ones devoid of feminism) never made it a sahria law an issue here

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KANO, NIGERIA, 6 Jan 2004 (IRIN) - A Shari`ah Islamic court in northern Nigeria has sentenced a man to death by stoning for having sex with his 15-year-old step-daughter and making her pregnant, court officials said on Tuesday.

Umaru Tori, 45, was sentenced to death for adultery last week by a court in Alkaleri, a provincial town in Bauchi State.

His step-daughter was sentenced to 100 strokes of the cane, to be administered after she has given birth to her baby, since she was an unmarried minor.

A senior official of the Bauchi State Shari’ah Court of Appeal confirmed the judgment and said both convicts had a 30-day period until January 29 in which to appeal against their sentences.

Bauchi is one of 12 states in Nigeria`s mainly Muslim north that began adopting strict Shari`ah law four years ago.

This prescribes several controversial sentences, including stoning to death for adultery, the amputation of limbs for stealing and public flogging for drinking alcohol.

While some amputations and floggings have been delivered, no one has so far been executed by stoning in Nigeria.

Tori is the eighth person to be sentenced to death by stoning in northern Nigeria in the past three years.

So far three death sentences have been overturned on appeal, the most recent being that of Amina Lawal, a 32-year-old single mother. Her sentence was quashed by an appeal court in Katsina state in September.

Lawal`s case attracted a wave of international interest and outrage since the man she had accused of fathering her baby simply denied having sex with her and was acquitted.

Four people are currently awaiting the outcome of their appeals against stoning sentences in Nigeria.

Two are former lovers in Niger state and two are men in Bauchi state convicted of separate sexual crimes.One was sentenced to death for sexually molesting three teenage boys. The ofther confessed to adultery with his neighbour`s wife after putting her in a spell.

The application of strict Shari`ah has heightened tension between Nigeria`s Islamic north and the largely Christian south. This has given rise to periodic outburst of sectarian violence in which thousands of people have died in the past four years.

FerozeK:64

Your frustration and depression is understandabe. Still fiercely guarding american-accent?
Ears cocked to whatever is happening in Dixie? Still avoiding masjids and maulanaas.

Worry not. You WILL be re-nativised (assimilated? mainstreamed?) alongwith other english-accent-schools ( I wish I could call them madrassas but that would be elevating their status).

Name ONE student from such schools pre or post-partition who has been an achiever in ANY field. Jobs, titles, and positions, and life-styles are NOT achievements.

Let me elaborate Shaukat Aziz vs Agha Hasan Abadi.(madressa)--(you get the drift?)

now more from maktab and madrassas: abdul salaam, Quadeer Khan, Dr. Ali Rajput, abdul sattar edhi, Faiz, Iqbal, Pitras , Quasmi, Manto etc etc (you keep thinking of many others in ANY field and give me just ONE name) who is from accented-schools who can match them)

How does it feel to be in the gutter now. Yes I am in that gutter of the colonised-culture and that is THE issue here.

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re: Fuzair

I saw Mazar sahib yesterday and I conveyed your wishes to him. Mazar sahib spoke highly of you and sends his best wishes, with the patent Mazar sahib advice - I am sure you are well familar with the advice. :)

Secondly, thank you, but you need not have bothered to respond to echoboom`s comments about me. He meant no disrespect and was simply being what his name suggests; an empty vessel that makes the loudest noise.

Best wishes!

Ciao

re: echoboom

Since you have chosen bring up my character and make comments on it, allow me to bring up your character and comment on it.

My comment is simple and this statement will sum up your character very well and the statement is; you can take a person out of the gutter, but you cannot take the gutter out of a person.

Ciao

62:fuzair
Thanks for listening.
Fair-enough..and you too are welcome to have some halwa.
99.9% muslims do.

Actually, I don`t know Feroz from Adam and I have quite often disagreed with him. However, I do respect intelligence, the ability to think and the ability to listen to other people`s arguments respectfully--all qualities he has and you lack.

So I`ll go back to my harvardish tomes and you go back to making halwa for the maulvis and screaming incoherently at people.

60:fuzair

agreed.
You are his good friend.
Such reciprocity is expected.
You delivered!
Now please resume I.Q enhancement potions,
and pore over harvardish tomes.

Echoboom,

I`ve had my disagreements with some of Feroz`s conclusions/analysis but, compared to you, he could write in his sleep and still outthink you by a couple of orders of magnitude. However, where people like you are concerned, he is at a great disadvantage: he simply cannot bring himself to sink to your level of filth. So, happy? You`ve proven that you can ``beat`` him at something.

Absolutely no regards at all.

Fountainheader #29,

``that said, naqshbandi has a good point. none of the 9/11 people were
madarsah products, neither was sheikh omar saeed.``

9/11 hijackers were not Madrasah products, simply because typical Madrasah
products would not be able to learn to fly an airplane. They do their bit by
being the footsoldiers.

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